Gamespot: Arkham Knight Review: 7/10

A single 7, which I still find to be a good score, among a sea of higher scores isn't going to stop me from picking it up.

Hmm. Not who I was thinking personally.

The have been pandering and overusing the Joker character since day 1.

@Xaero_Gravity: you mean you're not in outrage? On the internet? Get out.

Also lol at you thinking this game got cancelled instead of the CE version.

That would be a hysterical reveal. Mostly because it's the worst choice.

It's his opinion. People are really upset by this. I never believe review scores anyways. All the 9's and 10's can be due to hype, which we've seen happen on more than one occasion. Some people will like a game while others don't, it's the way of the world. I'm still going to pick it up, but I'll do like I always do with the Batman games and buy it when the GoTY edition releases with all the DLC included for $29.99. MP games are Day 1 and SP games can wait for price decreases or GotY editions.

lol, these tears over one review, and none of you have even played the game.

A lot of those negatives were apparent from the trailers. Forced vehicle anything just sucks and the dialogue in each trailer has been consistently laughable. I guess Kevin has way inflated standards after The Witcher 3, or the game really just isn't as fresh or interesting as Arkham City. The rest of the media tends to give the Arkham games a massive pass so I'm not surprised we have an outlier.

Regardless, this one came with my 2nd 970, so I'll find out for myself.

well it's not the first Bullshit review from GS .... , this game is 10/10 in my book

Game scores high: Overrated.

Game scores low: Underrated.

Gamers are bipolar delusional schizophrenics I swear to Vishnu. The ones who tell me Nintendo is for babies and aren't mature sure act like immature babies when their pre ordered game doesn't get the score they expected.

Oh damn.

Seems he thinks the bat mobile fucks up the games pacing.

@sts106mat: My goodness, you make a negative amount of sense. A numbered scale doesn't prevent a review from being a critique. A number cannot describe the details of the criticism nor the extent of it.

And for your information, sometimes the choice of adding in a number or not does not fall in the hands of the critic. Some of them hate to use it.

Have you had the chance to even play it?

Yeah, they definitely score higher than I would give them, anyway.

We all know what opinions are like, right?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, good or bad, but my purchase is dependent on the feelings of one person: Me.

people still want more batman? is this the new Asscreed?

Are they like elbows? Everyone has two.

Well I expect nothing less from them. I mean

TLOU 8 here 10s mostly everywhere else

Beyond 2 Souls 9 here everywhere else 6s

Skyward Sword 7.5 here 10s mostly everywhere else

Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon 6.5 here 9s most other places.

Arkham Knight has scored 9s most places and a few 10s elsewhere. GameSpot always stick the boot in.

3 games in, and rock steady is still struggling to make well made boss fights. Mr. freeze from City and Scare crow from asylum, are the exception.

I'm hoping for the best. I'll read more reviews and see if I should wait. This game is loaded with dlc all over the place. So it may be in my best interest to wait anyway.

In the original TAS series, the final episode involved a reveal that Two Face was dressing up as a hero killing villains.

It made sense in that show, because of the characters duality. Here, I can just imagine the marketing team ordering the development to use this because it has "mass appeal".

They fucked up Arkham Knight as well, the trailer had me excited with as it featured a plotline from the show and a great villain (Hugo Strange), but again, he gets shoved to the side like Bane to pander.

Maybe he just didn't like it as much as the other sites, or maybe WB didn't pay him enough, or maybe there is more money in click-bait, who knows.

@freedomfreak said:

Ouch

Review

I'm still picking it up, but I didn't expect it to go like this. Thoughts? This change your mind?

The bad seen like nitpicks.

Still gonna buy it

A 7 sounds fair for a Arkham City rehash with the batmobile shoehorned in. That is pretty much the impression I had from the trailers anyways.

Got it for $35 on GMG, still ok with that

I haven't played the game yet so I can't comment on the score, but I've been saying since last year that it looked like they were putting way too much emphasis on the Batmobile. Turns out I was right.

The series went from a tight corridor brawler, the an open world brawler, to an open world vehicle based brawler. Seems more evolutionary than most sequels.

@Blabadon:

That was a terrifying moment >_>

only matters if you only buy 8-9 rated games. this doesnt affect me but at least everybody else can temper their expectations a bit

not all 10s are great and not all 6s are bad....

nope and neither have you ...

@the_master_race: How is the game a 10/10 in your book? You've played it?

7/10 Is still a good game, Why do gamers jump up and down and claim it's a bad score?

Movie producers hold parties for scores like that.

Alot of salt in here. Opinions are opinions.

The anti-sequel review. A classic gamespot trope. Scoring games by comparing them to their predecessors. This is a logical way to go about reviewing sequels at this point imo. BUT this also means we get a disproportionate representation of what this game really offers. Yes this game probably isn't that much better than Arkham City, but if you exclude the comparisons you are left with quite an impressive game.

Basically this game is way better than a 7 but gets a 7 due to circumstance.

this wont stop me from buying it.

No, a game reviewer calling themselves a journalist is like someone who flips a burger calling themselves a chef. And FYI, there are chefs who flip burgers.

Journalism is not a prestigious thing. It's not reserved to "good journalists". These people are bad journalists, yet they are still journalists, if they are reporting on a subject.

@a-new-guardian: seriously? Why are concerned about how this game sells? Didn't gamespot give Destiny a 6? Did that flop saleswise? Exactly

For what it's worth, in the realm of theater a reviewer is someone who watches and gives their opinion of the show. A critic is someone with a background in theater who breaks down the production from overall opinion like the reviewer to minute details like the back drops, the sound recording, costumes, blocking.

Unless one of these reviewers has a history of making games they aren't a critic to me.

What the hell is the point of all these different reviews if you guys pick out single reviews to bitch about? ****, move on.

When a reviewer tells me what I expect to hear they become my favorite reviewer.

Gamespot is one of the only reviewers out there that has truly embraced the full scale of scoring. 7 is a good score.

I imagine that after a month or so, the consensus will be that Gamespot was spot in with their revew, just like with Skyward Sword.

Metacritic is a joke btw. Why do people continue to bring it up after it is continually humiliated with their ridiculous score inflation for mediocre games? There are so many reviewers out there that are so ridiculously corrupt, and they taint a place like Metacritic. Specifically, with early reviews, it makes me wonder what that reviewer had to give up in order to get early access (or maybe they just didn't play the game thoroughly and aimed high because they want to rake in all the gamers who want to get swept up in hype.

Just got to a site or a reviewer that you trust and stick with that opinion. Van Ord is generally a good reviewer so I'm sure his score will be vindicated by hindsight.

So what are we going to call this game? Arkham Flop? Flop Knight? Flopman?

Dun-na-na-na-na-na-na-na BATMAN!

Eh, whatever. Kevin is entitled to his opinion (He is in fact, paid to give it) which I see a lot of people seemed to have forgotten. When it gets to the point where you have to insult a person for doing what he is paid to do (Which is give his opinion) and you don't agree, then that says more about you than any review can say about any game. (Hint: it's not good)

What I like about Kevin's reviews are when he is asked about them, he can give you a pretty reasonable explanation about why he scored the game that way. I don't always agree with his reviews, but I have never read anything by him that would justify insulting him for giving what he thought a game should score.

Arkham Origins did get a 6 and that was a good game. No need to get worked up over a review. It is just his opinion. Having to play the game on consoles at 30 fps is something I can understand being upset over. LOL.

Was there a hype thread?

Chris is most likely to review that game when it releases.He has reviewed a lot of the recent main halo games including MCC.

Ouch?? The review clearly says "good"

Im so buying the game!

also LOL at anyone who take reviews seriously

Killzone Shadow Flop = Flop Rising = Batman Arkham Flop.

Sorry. I had to.

In all seriousness though i did not see this coming.

I don't remember if it was you or someone else who said the Souls games are as different between games as the CoD games. But anyway, if GS or Kevin were anti-sequel then Dark Souls 2 and Bloodborne should have scored below a 9. His criticism wasn't just centered around Arkham Knight not being as impactful as Arkham City: poor pacing in the final third of the game, the Batmobile being lame, and forced Batmobile segments are flaws that have nothing to do with Arkham Knight being the fourth Arkham game. And considering a review is an opinion, why should Kevin just pretend he's never played an Arkham game before and treat Arkham Knight like it's in a bubble?

No offense, but you should probably STFU if you haven't played it.

Kevin Van Ord watch out! DSP is planning a rant on you (seriously, he said this).

(He won't be the only one either, Lucy O'Brian and Patrick Klepek fell victim to Phil's BS too)

I saw it coming from miles away. They are rehashing too many assets in this game. I mean it is a 4th, FORTH, installment of the same shit. How much one can piggy back on the same gameplay formula, the same assets, the same protagonists, the same textures until someone will drop your from your high horse. Gotham City looks pretty much like an expanded version of Archam City. But you can not see any civilians around because, how convenient, entire f*cking city has been evacuated. Come on. I look at its gameplay and I can not shake away the strong feeling of deja-vu. This game is just Archam City 1.5.

Any proof/evidence for any of this?