[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]Lolipop chainsaw is suda's best selling game at 700k. Grass Hopper's successes in other markets(mobile gaming) allows suda to continue making games that sell relatively poorly. Kinda like how GTA's sales help offset take 2's experimental flops. Not to mention W101 had a longer dev cycle and was made by a larger team than any other Platinum game made thus far. 100k ain't going to cut for Nintendo or Platinum. Hell, marvelous couldn't make any money on NMH in japan despite selling 40k. Nintendo will probably subsidize the loss; I think The Wonderful 101 is meant to be one of those lower selling titles that flesh out the lineup than actually intended to be a system seller or a big hit. Of course, Nintendo and Platinum would be happy if it did sell, but I don't think any of them expect it to sell; Nintendo is just doing what a platform holder does, funding a game to flesh out its system's portfolio.I don't think Nintendo is in any position to be taking any unnecessary losses. Lego City bombed earlier this year and it's looking like w101 will too. After, bayonetta 2 flops, I think Nintendo will get out of this publishing 3rd party games phase.[QUOTE="HarlockJC"] You would be amazed. The average game to make profit is much less than you think. I had to do a study in a class I took a few years ago. What happens on system wars is we get in this mentally that all games have to sell millions to be successful. Maybe for some of the games we hype that might be correct. But on the norm most games don't have to sell anywhere near that much. An example when No More Hero's which well none of the game have sold a million copies they kept making them because they were still making good profit. When No Mario Hero 1 sold 200,000 copies that was Suda best selling game at the time. I still think No More Hero's was his best selling game, yet they keep making more of his games.
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GameSpot Review of The Wonderful 101 - What say you about the 8.0 NathanDrake?
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Platinum Games must be ashamed of themselves for having a game only as good as the likes of TLOU. Disappointment indeed.bobcheeseball
That damage control LOL
[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] Marvelous only published the game in Japan and employees were on the verge of 'tears' when NMHs sold so poorly(40k). HD development + larger team + longest dev cycle in company history + low sales = sad pandas everywhere Game budgets on wii and wii-u aren't even remotely comparable. 50-100k is what xbla/psn devs strive to achieve, not $60 boxed products with significantly larger budgets. HarlockJCThey were upset with how bad the game did in japan, but when it came to the other markets it was a major success for them. It did well over what they had expected it to. No More Heroes was a huge success for them. Marvelous did not publish the game in other markets.
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'Marvelous Entertainment also made a post on the staff blog for Little Kings Story where they mentioned that games such as No more heroes, Rune Factory F, Oboromuramasa, Arc Rise Fantasia etc were all games that they have tried their best to make under very limited time and budget but all of these games have experienced similar shipment numbers, all of which are not very high. And he feels like crying.' 'A: Development costs, on average, currently cost 50 to 60 million yen (US$600,000) for a PS2 title, and a PSP title would cost about 120 million yen (US$1,200,000). But for the high end game consoles it would cost about 3 times the amount of what it costs to make a PSP title. Just to recoup the development costs, we would need to sell at least 100,000 copies per title. As for the game genre, we are currently making action games and RPG-like games.'
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A small publisher in Japan funding wii games has to sell 100k units just to break even on dev costs. Â There's no way Nintendo or Platinum would be happy with 50-100k worldwide. Bigger budget, bigger marketing budget and bigger dev team.
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But maybe platinum devs work on a few grains of rice per week....
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