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#101 cobragt4
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looks the same as the replay, here's a replay shot from the same guy

see you're a fanboy so you wont think gt5p looks good no matter what shot or vid you watch so there's no point in fighting with you, next

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#102 Zeliard9
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Look at these recent GT5P images from Gamersyde, in full 1080p, so there's no compression issue:

http://images.gamersyde.com/gallery/public/7898/1316_0003.jpg

http://images.gamersyde.com/gallery/public/7898/1316_0005.jpg

It really doesn't look that great. Jaggies (couldn't even smooth out the shadows), color blandness, uneven texturing, uneven lighting.

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#103 MrGrimFandango
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looks the same as the replay, here's a replay shot from the same guy

see you're a fanboy so you wont think gt5p looks good no matter what shot or vid you watch so there's no point in fighting with you, next

cobragt4

Whats so good looking abotu that?

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#104 cobragt4
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pgr4 looks good but i would assume people would prefer a more realistic looking game especially for a car game. i look at pgr4 in motion, not some pic and say i couldnt be fooled by this but with gt5p in motion it could throw me off maybe but for people who dont play games gt5p can fool them, not pgr4
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#105 MrGrimFandango
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heres a pic of gt5p with no enhancements and it looks almost like the so called bullshots

there you have it, that shot looks just as good as any press release shots shown so far. you can thank Forsete from the gaming-age boards for this pic

cobragt4

That looks screen is ugly man, here I'll tell you why in point form.

- The trees on the horizon look UGLY

- The trees on teh right look UGLY

- The trees on the left look UGLY

- The shadow on his glove looks UGLY

- Textures on the grass look UGLY

- Game has nice cars but UGLY environment and almost 0 FIZZICKS

- Not impressive.

- *Fanboy off*

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#106 cobragt4
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looking at the game in motion is so much better, if you dont think it looks good in motion ok, that's you
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#107 the_h_bomb
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lawl

Lemmings really are grasping at straws. GT5 looks far better than anything on the 360 and it always will

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#108 cobragt4
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you putting too much effort in you post, not that serious. ok it's not impressive to you, thats you, you're bias so no more needs to be said
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#109 toxicmog
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[QUOTE="whocares4peace"]

"Conclusion? It looks nice, but a tad sterile.The tracks in the game are very close to their real-life counterparts, just a little cleaner and with a touch of artistic license. We do long for some imperfections, though. PGR4 convincingly dirtied up its tracks over PGR3, whereas GT5P is more like Forza 2 in terms of clean lines. And it has to be said thatGT5Pstill looks very similar to PS2's Gran Turismo 4. To be honest, we were expecting a little more 'wow' from the game's environments, especially when most trees are still made up of two crossed polygons."

Serbiam

LMFAO! WTF....talk about being biased.

How in the blue hell does it look VERY similar to PS2's GT4...are they blind?

sorry, gotta be an idiot to take that seriously, or atleast with a straight face.

they mean the backgrounds, not the cars :roll:

if you read the entire artical

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#110 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Cedmln"]

ITwas comparing PGR 4's environments to GT5 PROLOGUE's environments.

PGR4 also has a an empty clean lifeless track, which is the test track. GO LOOK IT UP.

Comparison failed.

GT 5 WILL have many city tracks.

heretrix

heh - nice try. pgr4 might have one, but GT5p has many lifeless tracks - no damage, screen tearing, no voice on launch, no private matches on launch.

Actually that's just GT 5 Prologue.GT5 will more than likely have all of those things......In Sometimeuary 2009.

yeah of course - at least one would hope. im talking about gt5p only

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#111 3picuri3
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lawl

Lemmings really are grasping at straws. GT5 looks far better than anything on the 360 and it always will

the_h_bomb

GT5 final might - but GT5p, no way. jaggies and screen tearing + all the other issues like 2D trees, backdrops make it nowhere close to what you're saying. the cars alone in replay / photo mode maybe... but that's not gameplay is it.

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#112 Super_Swagger
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[QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]

lawl

Lemmings really are grasping at straws. GT5 looks far better than anything on the 360 and it always will

3picuri3

GT5 final might - but GT5p, no way. jaggies and screen tearing + all the other issues like 2D trees, backdrops make it nowhere close to what you're saying. the cars alone in replay / photo mode maybe... but that's not gameplay is it.

GT5: P doesn't have photo mode. Gaawd lol have you even plaed it??? All replay does is motion blur and 30FPS for cinematic look. PGR4 has jaggies, screen tearing and low polly cars. GT5: P looks better.

Try harder.

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#113 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]

lawl

Lemmings really are grasping at straws. GT5 looks far better than anything on the 360 and it always will

Super_Swagger

GT5 final might - but GT5p, no way. jaggies and screen tearing + all the other issues like 2D trees, backdrops make it nowhere close to what you're saying. the cars alone in replay / photo mode maybe... but that's not gameplay is it.

GT5: P doesn't have photo mode. Gaawd lol have you even plaed it??? All replay does is motion blur and 30FPS for cinematic look. PGR4 has jaggies, screen tearing and low polly cars. GT5: P looks better.

Try harder.

i don't need to try to convince you - it's what i know :) sorry, replay mode - you know what i meant. its confirmed to add post-processing such as FSAF FSAA Blur, and more. the in game shots are hardly as impressive - and very comparable to PGR4, which is why people who have previewed the game that aren't fanboys have said so on different websites.

you can tell me forever that it's the best thing in the world and looks better than any 360 game will ever - it'll just make me smile a bit wider :P

btw polly's a parrot. polys are polygons.

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#114 shoeman12
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gt5p's cars may look nice but the backgrounds just don't.
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#115 mingo123
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looks the same as the replay, here's a replay shot from the same guy

see you're a fanboy so you wont think gt5p looks good no matter what shot or vid you watch so there's no point in fighting with you, next

cobragt4

that looks pretty bad tbh

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#116 heretrix
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looks the same as the replay, here's a replay shot from the same guy

see you're a fanboy so you wont think gt5p looks good no matter what shot or vid you watch so there's no point in fighting with you, next

cobragt4
You may just dismiss it as fanboyism, but I've said MULTIPLE times I'm getting GT5 and that it looks amazing. I'm just being honest, those shots don't look all that great to me.(backgrounds and detail in certain viewpoints) I can be critical of something and still have respect for it. If anybody is a fanboy, it's you seeing how any bit of criticism of the game makes you get defensive.
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#117 TheWiikestLink
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how credible is this site?


GT5 is being compared to REAL life......beh....
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#118 mingo123
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[QUOTE="mingo123"]so I was right after all :|

every cow hated me for this pic :lol:EmperorSupreme

Thats not the game, I've corrected you so many times yet you still post this pic. So many errors on this pic. Where is the house on the right hand side of this picture?? It's in the GT:HD demo that has been out for over a year on PS3, but not in this picture. Hilarious your are so jealous even after being corrected you still post fake pics. Another flaw, where is the lighting? Where is the reflection off the road in this stretch. Where is the bloom on the rails? I've raced this track 1000 times and I know the details and this is a fake.


:| :lol:

:cry: lol wut?
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#119 Super_Swagger
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[QUOTE="Super_Swagger"][QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]

lawl

Lemmings really are grasping at straws. GT5 looks far better than anything on the 360 and it always will

3picuri3

GT5 final might - but GT5p, no way. jaggies and screen tearing + all the other issues like 2D trees, backdrops make it nowhere close to what you're saying. the cars alone in replay / photo mode maybe... but that's not gameplay is it.

GT5: P doesn't have photo mode. Gaawd lol have you even plaed it??? All replay does is motion blur and 30FPS for cinematic look. PGR4 has jaggies, screen tearing and low polly cars. GT5: P looks better.

Try harder.

i don't need to try to convince you - it's what i know :) sorry, replay mode - you know what i meant. its confirmed to add post-processing such as FSAF FSAA Blur, and more. the in game shots are hardly as impressive - and very comparable to PGR4, which is why people who have previewed the game that aren't fanboys have said so on different websites.

you can tell me forever that it's the best thing in the world and looks better than any 360 game will ever - it'll just make me smile a bit wider :P

btw polly's a parrot. polys are polygons.

Wrong :). False, play the game. As long as you 360 fanboys continue to scower the net for low res pics and such to prove your pints, you will have made NO POINT. So I don't have to tell you anything, your actions show you have no reasoning behind them.

Anybody can find low-res pics, that why I laugh at you and that "mingo" kid. He really thinks he's doing something. :lol:

Good day.

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#120 mingo123
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Super_Swagger"][QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]

lawl

Lemmings really are grasping at straws. GT5 looks far better than anything on the 360 and it always will

Super_Swagger

GT5 final might - but GT5p, no way. jaggies and screen tearing + all the other issues like 2D trees, backdrops make it nowhere close to what you're saying. the cars alone in replay / photo mode maybe... but that's not gameplay is it.

GT5: P doesn't have photo mode. Gaawd lol have you even plaed it??? All replay does is motion blur and 30FPS for cinematic look. PGR4 has jaggies, screen tearing and low polly cars. GT5: P looks better.

Try harder.

i don't need to try to convince you - it's what i know :) sorry, replay mode - you know what i meant. its confirmed to add post-processing such as FSAF FSAA Blur, and more. the in game shots are hardly as impressive - and very comparable to PGR4, which is why people who have previewed the game that aren't fanboys have said so on different websites.

you can tell me forever that it's the best thing in the world and looks better than any 360 game will ever - it'll just make me smile a bit wider :P

btw polly's a parrot. polys are polygons.

Wrong :). False, play the game. As long as you 360 fanboys continue to scower the net for low res pics and such to prove your pints, you will have made NO POINT. So I don't have to tell you anything, your actions show you have no reasoning behind them.

Anybody can find low-res pics, that why I laugh at you and that "mingo" kid. He really thinks he's doing something. :lol:

Good day.

:lol: show me a high res pic then....and make sure you can see the environment coz i dotn want those shots with awesome car models and totally blureed environment :lol:

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#121 cobragt4
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just looking at pics to judge the game really wont help any of you discredit it or even credit it. in motion is where it's at. the f40 vid that was posted on gtplanet is head spinning, looks so realistic and the engine sounds so realistic. gt5p isnt the best looking but its among the best looking games
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#122 Wasdie  Moderator
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"Conclusion? It looks nice, but a tad sterile.The tracks in the game are very close to their real-life counterparts, just a little cleaner and with a touch of artistic license. We do long for some imperfections, though. PGR4 convincingly dirtied up its tracks over PGR3, whereas GT5P is more like Forza 2 in terms of clean lines. And it has to be said thatGT5Pstill looks very similar to PS2's Gran Turismo 4. To be honest, we were expecting a little more 'wow' from the game's environments, especially when most trees are still made up of two crossed polygons."

I dont really agree with them, especially the bolded part.

whocares4peace

Yeah I don't agree with that either.

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#123 cobragt4
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and one thing aswell is the lighting in gt5p. the lighting is so good that it makes the game itself look so real. the actual track detail might not be such a overhual, that's sure enough but the lighting has changed dramatically and that and the car models are the reason gt5p is considered the most realistic looking game around. i cant get enough of the lighting to be honest with you all
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#124 Zeliard9
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

i don't need to try to convince you - it's what i know :) sorry, replay mode - you know what i meant. its confirmed to add post-processing such as FSAF FSAA Blur, and more. the in game shots are hardly as impressive - and very comparable to PGR4, which is why people who have previewed the game that aren't fanboys have said so on different websites.

you can tell me forever that it's the best thing in the world and looks better than any 360 game will ever - it'll just make me smile a bit wider :P

btw polly's a parrot. polys are polygons.

Super_Swagger

Wrong :). False, play the game. As long as you 360 fanboys continue to scower the net for low res pics and such to prove your pints, you will have made NO POINT. So I don't have to tell you anything, your actions show you have no reasoning behind them.

Anybody can find low-res pics, that why I laugh at you and that "mingo" kid. He really thinks he's doing something. :lol:

Good day.

The pics I pasted from gamersyde are in full 1080p resolution. 1920 x 1080. Why do they not look amazing?

http://www.gamersyde.com/news_6119_en.html

Look at the in-game screens, then look at the other screens. All the amazing GT5 images that we've seen aren't in-game, and that lineup of pics basically proves it. The actual in-game images look very different in quality. We've been fed bullshots.

And that picture Mingo pasted is real and is from GT5P. That same car and track is in the split-screen pic in that gamersyde link.

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#125 cobragt4
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really gt5p does indeed look like the press release pics that you all consider bullshots, the pics i posted prove it and if you disagree i suggest you go to lenscrafters right now
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#126 XturnalS
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Look at these recent GT5P images from Gamersyde, in full 1080p, so there's no compression issue:

http://images.gamersyde.com/gallery/public/7898/1316_0003.jpg

http://images.gamersyde.com/gallery/public/7898/1316_0005.jpg

It really doesn't look that great. Jaggies (couldn't even smooth out the shadows), color blandness, uneven texturing, uneven lighting.

Zeliard9

Not working links ftl

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#127 mingo123
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really gt5p does indeed look like the press release pics that you all consider bullshots, the pics i posted prove it and if you disagree i suggest you go to lenscrafters right nowcobragt4

the pic you posted looks horrible, look at the horrible environment...oh well ur a hardcore hermit and you just have to make GT5 look better then 360 games dont you? geeeezzz why do hermit hates 360 THAT much....

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I agree that PGR4 looks better, it's a amazing looking game, best graphics in a racer ever. Plus the motorbikes kick ass.

Best racer this generation. But Mario Kart Wii might be mroe fun :)

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#129 cobragt4
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i'm nothing, i dont have a ps3 nor do i have a performance pc. i plan to get a ps3 since i'm a gt fan. look, personally i dont like posting pics since they dont show how good a game really looks. vids are what show us how good a game looks. in motion gt5p looks better than any bullshot out there period
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#130 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="whocares4peace"]

"Conclusion? It looks nice, but a tad sterile.The tracks in the game are very close to their real-life counterparts, just a little cleaner and with a touch of artistic license. We do long for some imperfections, though. PGR4 convincingly dirtied up its tracks over PGR3, whereas GT5P is more like Forza 2 in terms of clean lines. And it has to be said thatGT5Pstill looks very similar to PS2's Gran Turismo 4. To be honest, we were expecting a little more 'wow' from the game's environments, especially when most trees are still made up of two crossed polygons."

I dont really agree with them, especially the bolded part.

Wasdie

Yeah I don't agree with that either.

I totally agree with it, apart from the car upgrades and some minor visual improvements on the tracks (and i mean minor) it really does look at feel the same. keep in mind you never saw GTA4 at 1080p... i was definitely expecting more than the gameplay pics i've seen so far. that's what you get when a company decides its still ok to feed consumers bullshots.

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#131 mingo123
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i'm nothing, i dont have a ps3 nor do i have a performance pc. i plan to get a ps3 since i'm a gt fan. look, personally i dont like posting pics since they dont show how good a game really looks. vids are what show us how good a game looks. in motion gt5p looks better than any bullshot out there periodcobragt4

sry theres another cobragt on these forums who is a big hermit so i thought it was u

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#132 saolin323
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I agree that PGR4 looks better, it's a amazing looking game, best graphics in a racer ever. Plus the motorbikes kick ass.

Best racer this generation. But Mario Kart Wii might be mroe fun :)

M3tro1d

Indeed, PGR4 looks KILLER !!!!

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#133 dkhw
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Wow. Can people stop posting Photo Mode pics of racing games? Cows have been doing this with GT: P, and it's getting really annoying.
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#134 shoeman12
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[QUOTE="M3tro1d"]

I agree that PGR4 looks better, it's a amazing looking game, best graphics in a racer ever. Plus the motorbikes kick ass.

Best racer this generation. But Mario Kart Wii might be mroe fun :)

saolin323

Indeed, PGR4 looks KILLER !!!!

wow, those look as good as GT5! i didn't realize it was that good!

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#135 Cedmln
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[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="M3tro1d"]

I agree that PGR4 looks better, it's a amazing looking game, best graphics in a racer ever. Plus the motorbikes kick ass.

Best racer this generation. But Mario Kart Wii might be mroe fun :)

shoeman12

Indeed, PGR4 looks KILLER !!!!

wow, those look as good as GT5! i didn't realize it was that good!

You are being mislead.

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#137 fenwickhotmail
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Wow those PGR4 pics look awesome. I forgot how good it looks
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#138 mingo123
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[QUOTE="shoeman12"][QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="M3tro1d"]

I agree that PGR4 looks better, it's a amazing looking game, best graphics in a racer ever. Plus the motorbikes kick ass.

Best racer this generation. But Mario Kart Wii might be mroe fun :)

Cedmln

Indeed, PGR4 looks KILLER !!!!

wow, those look as good as GT5! i didn't realize it was that good!

You are being mislead.

yeah he is, this is what GT5P really looks like:

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#139 thegoldenpoo
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im not a ps3 fan but even i have to admit that GT5P looks good, now if only they could admit it was a beta...
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#140 acekall
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[QUOTE="shoeman12"][QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="M3tro1d"]

I agree that PGR4 looks better, it's a amazing looking game, best graphics in a racer ever. Plus the motorbikes kick ass.

Best racer this generation. But Mario Kart Wii might be mroe fun :)

Cedmln

Indeed, PGR4 looks KILLER !!!!

wow, those look as good as GT5! i didn't realize it was that good!

You are being mislead.

Yep, I own PGR 4 and while it looks good, it doesnt look that good. Off-screen pics for the lose!!

When the weather is clear you can see jaggies, when its rainy you cant see them but sometimes while racing in the rain framerate dips below 20, very noticeable, sometimes unplayable.

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#141 cobragt4
Member since 2004 • 291 Posts

gt5p looks too realistic for its own good

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#142 cobragt4
Member since 2004 • 291 Posts

pretty close to the bullshots imo

hmm heres a replay shot

thought replays looked better than gameplay since more polys were add and the aa was bumped up, hmmm

all that detail with 16 cars on track and the game running 60fps, madness

is pd serious!

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#143 masiisam
Member since 2003 • 5723 Posts

hummm....

GT5 is what...7 months after the release of PGR4..and it looks like that in-game...

thats funny...

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#144 Rikusaki
Member since 2006 • 16641 Posts

Owned.

PGR4 and Fable 2 both look way better than GT5. Now it has been confirmed.

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#145 Rikusaki
Member since 2006 • 16641 Posts

gt5p looks too realistic for its own good

cobragt4

Whoa that umm... that actually looks good.

Impossible! PGR4 is supposed to look better!

Someone please post PGR4 and Fable 2 screens that look better than this!

Somebody! Anybody!

Hurry! I can't look at these any more!

It's just... too... real....

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#146 Rikusaki
Member since 2006 • 16641 Posts
[QUOTE="M3tro1d"]

I agree that PGR4 looks better, it's a amazing looking game, best graphics in a racer ever. Plus the motorbikes kick ass.

Best racer this generation. But Mario Kart Wii might be mroe fun :)

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Indeed, PGR4 looks KILLER !!!!

Offscreen + Photomode FTL.

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#147 Musacircuit_2
Member since 2008 • 570 Posts

Damage conrol the below

When in motion, the game doesn't look as good as Project Gotham Racing 4, as GT5P has the series' usual 'clean' look to it, like the sterile recreation of Monaco in GT3.

GT5 does not even look as good as PGR4 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And it has to be said that GT5P still looks very similar to PS2's Gran Turismo 4. To be honest, we were expecting a little more 'wow' from the game's environments,especially when most trees are still made up of two crossed polygons.

The ultimate ABSOLUTE ownage is found in this article for PS3 graphics and GT5 !!!!

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If only we had more 12 year olds like this fellow then this place would be even more fun.
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#148 cobragt4
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if pgr4's lighting wasnt so cartoonish it would look very real but it doesnt
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#149 washere12
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I haven't played prologue on the PS3 but from what I have seen the environments of PGR4 seem to look better, and GT5P has much nicer looking vehicles. What I find impressive in PGR though is the weather changes, does GT have this now?

Saying GT5P looks like GT4 is a bit of an odd statement, but then again it has been said by somebody for nearly every next generation sequel of a game this gen and it probably has more to do with raised expectations from stupid levels of hype.

csliney

Well Said, I look at it as Environments=PGR4 by far, and GT5P=Cars by far(not too far though). And as you said the special effects of PGR are sweet

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#150 cobragt4
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i accept pgr4 looks good but their cars arent nowhere near gt5p's cars, sorry but when the exterior detail is off the chain and the interior detail is just as sick, there's no comparsion, not at all. and to think each 16 cars on track have that much detail put into them, i could care less if the trees were 2d. now imo the london track in gt5p looks alot more realistic than any city track pgr4 has and dont get me started on pgr4's real tracks