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#1 Firstinstimct
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Gaming hasnt changed since last gen, only graphics. Name one genre thats seen an evolution? Besides graphically.
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#2 kris9031998
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The Indie genre.
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#3 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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No....it hasn't. Last gen games were mostly singleplayer, this gen online functionality took over and now games such as Gears of War 3, MW3, Uncharted 3, R&C, Mass Effect 3 all have multiplayer. This gen gaming expanded greatly and became more mainstream, it's way more popular that it used to be and is no longer viewed as a "kids only" hobby.

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#4 Ravensmash
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Why does it need to evolve? I'm still having fun. Oh also, online multiplayer/digital distribution of smaller titles and motion controls.
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#5 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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Third Person Shooters.

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#6 dom2000
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This gen was meh in my opinion.....other than the rise of awesome indie developers! Big budget games with the depth of a puddle seemed to be all the rage this gen......
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#7 darkman006
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So I guess the PS3 move and Xbox kinect didn't bring anything new either?
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#8 garrett_daniels
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Many games are all about flashy graphics and nothing else, but there have been just as many that have taken advantage of hardware capabilities to provide bigger worlds, more enemies on screen, and various other things that have a hugely positive impact on gameplay.

If you're wanting to see innovative games you often need to look to the PC these days. Mount&Blade, Minecraft, Crysis, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and many others provide experiences that would not have been feasible without increasingly better hardware. Ten years ago you couldn't have imagined that such games would exist--and ten years from now you'll be playing games that are a leap beyond your current expectations of what is possible.

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#9 DethSkematik
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Gaming just got more mainstream, and that's why a lot of people aren't too happy about it. I mean, I know a few people who feel "betrayed" because a lot of devs would rather cater to the in crowd than bring their older franchises/mechanics in the limelight. I mean, gaming isn't going to evolve any faster if majority of gamers want Call of Duty all the time (much less every FPS that ape the formula as well).
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#10 TheEroica  Moderator
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meh, I dont even know what to say... in ways youre right and in others youre wrong. I would say that gaming has evolved more than it ever has before this generation and not by motion controls but by online services and access to the downloadable game. community evolved gaming etc... As far as gaming design, yeah Sometimes I play a game and think, why wouldnt the dev take advantage of a different presentation or different set of gameplay devices to separate itself from the pack... though with budgets as high as they are, devs are going to take les chances.

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Gaming hasnt changed since last gen, only graphics. Name one genre thats seen an evolution? Besides graphically. Firstinstimct

the wii (controller) was an evolution.

Also many games have changed and evolved since last gen, specifically FPS and TPS games.Also Racing game's have evolved on a physics level aswell.For one to say theres no advancement except graphics is either a bit dim or started gaming this gen.

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#12 AzatiS
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Gaming hasnt changed since last gen, only graphics. Name one genre thats seen an evolution? Besides graphically. Firstinstimct
I played some awesome games this gen .but you got a point there... As for this gen... im "Screaming" 2 years now that more than 5-6 years each gen is enough and that we are on a serious peak which making games feel one of the same despite if very few making the difference as far as gameplay/fun factor goes....but 8 years or more? This is a step backwards... specially for PC gaming.
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#13 AzatiS
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[QUOTE="Firstinstimct"]Gaming hasnt changed since last gen, only graphics. Name one genre thats seen an evolution? Besides graphically. razgriz_101

the wii (controller) was an evolution.

Also many games have changed and evolved since last gen, specifically FPS and TPS games.Also Racing game's have evolved on a physics level aswell.For one to say theres no advancement except graphics is either a bit dim or started gaming this gen.

Sorry but a controller does not revolutionize the gameplay elements of a game. For example , i really doubt that anyone would had less excitement and fun playing SMG2 with a traditional controller. Nor scores would have been lower than 10s. What im looking for is ingame gameplay evolutions not fancy pads / wii-motes or kinects.
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#15 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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It would be nice if you offered some support for such a bold statement.

No, gaming hasn't hit it's peak, not when wonderful games continue ti be release, and some companies are trying news things and incorporating new inputs.

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#16 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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I wouldn't mind if consoles implemented more intuitive user-created content. Halo Reach and Forge mode was a good starting point, but next gen needs to take this to the next level. Part of the reason I don't care for DLC, and that people will buy it without question(MW), is that since so much money is involved companies might not feel the need to do this. Why let players create stuff when they can put out hack job dlc and charge for it, ya know?

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#17 ShoTTyMcNaDeS
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Im not sure it has hit its peak, but I think that it needs to get a breath of fresh air. I think there are some franchises..(Madden, CoD and Halo) to name a few that need to either reinvent themselves or go away. I think there needs to be an influx of new I.P.'s. I personally would like to see more RTS, City Builders and RPG's. Id like to see the return of Rainbow Six and Counter Strike. What about arena shooters like Quake and UT? How about a true return of Resident Evil?? Everything in gaming is cyclical Imo it is time to move past the stagnant CoD and Madden games.
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#18 GunSmith1_basic
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the PS2 to PS3 transition is a bit like the NES-SNES transition. The upgrade is mainly graphics but there is an upgrade in every other area as well. It's more subtle compared to what the PS2 or even the N64 or NES did, but it's there. At any rate, gaming has not hit its peak. Just like the SNES days, it's only a matter of time before gaming rapidly evolves again.
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#19 starjet905
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This might be true. But I myself don't give a damn, cause I'm still having fun. :D
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#20 Doom_HellKnight
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I'm not sure about that. I couldn't care less either way, though. I'm entertained by the games I buy, and that's why I play them.

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#21 RandomWinner
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I don't think so. The only reason is that devs complain about technical limitations all the time. If great 1080p graphics at 60FPS with AA became standard next gen recourses spent optimizing could be spent on polish, AI, and style. I think the biggest problem with this gen is everyone trying to make a graphics king. Rage, while filled with its own issues, I can appreciate for being 60FPS (which pretty much automatically prevented it from being graphics king).

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#22 mmmwksil
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Maybe you just need to stop looking for innovation or evolution, find a genre you enjoy, and stick to it.

You might just be happier.

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#23 Chemical_Viking
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You know what to do if you've don't enjoy gaming.

Stop whining about it and find another hobby.

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#24 HaloinventedFPS
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gaming peaked around 2001-2004

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#25 adamosmaki
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The Indie genre.kris9031998
exactly that. Indie gaming is more prevalent than ever before. I had more fun with games like Trine and Braid than the next Call of duty
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#26 Kan0nF0dder
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There has been a dramatic evolution in physics this which has affected all genres, particularly sports and sand box games like GTA. So you're wrong, very wrong! We're still doing the same button presses to perform the same actions, but their success is no longer defined by artificially timed windows - the games are playing things out for real in front of our eyes in a more realistic fashion and we're making judgements based on that. If you can't notice this dramatic improvement in gaming I feel sorry for you.
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#27 vlens
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well, i agree! I had more fun the gen before this one. Kotor, halo:ceor metroid prime, that were such great games .... and this gen there are lot's of good games also, but it feels different...
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#28 SovietsUnited
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I don't agree, I think there's more room for innovation, after this gen's creative crisis is over.

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Third person shooters are getting more popular
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="Firstinstimct"]Gaming hasnt changed since last gen, only graphics. Name one genre thats seen an evolution? Besides graphically. AzatiS

the wii (controller) was an evolution.

Also many games have changed and evolved since last gen, specifically FPS and TPS games.Also Racing game's have evolved on a physics level aswell.For one to say theres no advancement except graphics is either a bit dim or started gaming this gen.

Sorry but a controller does not revolutionize the gameplay elements of a game. For example , i really doubt that anyone would had less excitement and fun playing SMG2 with a traditional controller. Nor scores would have been lower than 10s. What im looking for is ingame gameplay evolutions not fancy pads / wii-motes or kinects.

SMG2 would of had to be significally changed to work with a Traditional controller. Same with Skyward Sword.

Both games are changing they are different then they were last gen. SMG and SMG2 have evolved the Platformer and I would like to see what they do next to change it even more.

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#31 Randoggy
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Sure hasn't.
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#32 loosingENDS
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Gaming hasnt changed since last gen, only graphics. Name one genre thats seen an evolution? Besides graphically. Firstinstimct

Dark Souls is just about a million times better than any WRPG i have played so far in gameplay, so at least one developer did something right

Witcher 2 was great too, though a step back in gameplay

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Everything has become better. Story telling, chracters, pacing, gameplay. Games are a lot less bland than they used to be. Gaming is a slow evolution. Its very, very slow. Try a game now & ther go back & play a game from last gen. a Massive, massive difference

Just take any action & adventure game of last gen & then compare it to UC3.Massive difference

Take the best Batman game of last gen & compare it with Arkham city.

Take Read Dead revolver & compare it with Red Dead Redmption

Take Skyrim & compare it with Morrowind

Take Cod 1 & compare it with cod4

The comparisons are endless. Games are better in every way. The only exception being games seem less unique this day in age & every games seems to be a FPS game.I dont remember any game offering what ive seen with games like Bioshock, Bioshock Infinite, far cry 3, Tomb raider reboot, Uncharted 3, & so much more

The only thing that looks the same as last gen is animation. Games like UC have the best animation ever seen in a game & they continue to evolve their animation while everybody else stays the same. How about next gen we forget graphics & focus on animation

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#34 fusionhunter
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You need to open your eyes to the amazing games that are out there!

Gaming will never hit a peak.

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#35 Jynxzor
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As long as some companies like Atlus and From software keep releasing awesome titles I'll continue to buy games. Saying that video games have not evolved is a joke, the main evolution has come from infastructure growth this generation. Multiplayer games have evolved leaps and bounds, it just may be in ways some people don't like. DLC, Online passes, User created content, all of this is stuff you wouldn't have seen be so prevalent last generation.
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#36 Sushiglutton
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I wonder what people would think about this "prediction" in say fifty years :lol:.

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#37 AcidSoldner
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Third person shooters have changed drastically from last gen thanks to Gear of War.
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#38 bri360
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Actually lots has changed since last gen. More than N64 to ps2. Big changes in online, indie studios are starting to sell like big name AAA's, motion controls, 3D gaming, etc etc.

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#39 DragonfireXZ95
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Stalker evolved the genre. Crysis evolved the genre. Bad Company evolved the genre(MP with fully destructible environments), Demon's/Dark Souls evolved the genre, The Witcher 2 did... There were many games which evolved genres, you just haven't played them TC.
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="Firstinstimct"]Gaming hasnt changed since last gen, only graphics. Name one genre thats seen an evolution? Besides graphically. AzatiS

the wii (controller) was an evolution.

Also many games have changed and evolved since last gen, specifically FPS and TPS games.Also Racing game's have evolved on a physics level aswell.For one to say theres no advancement except graphics is either a bit dim or started gaming this gen.

Sorry but a controller does not revolutionize the gameplay elements of a game.

For example , i really doubt that anyone would had less excitement and fun playing SMG2 with a traditional controller. Nor scores would have been lower than 10s.

What im looking for is ingame gameplay evolutions not fancy pads / wii-motes or kinects.

I don't think the controlling scheme is revolutionary either. It is for the companies. It's something different they can sell. It hasn't improved gaming. It just made it bigger, which is an improvement for the companies because of more sales, but not for us. Graphics change and people are content with that. It's enough. I can't wait until that is not enough. Then we might go somewhere. :D

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#41 Dogswithguns
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They can improve the graphics which I could care less.. as far as game play I don't really anything new.
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#42 LOXO7
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Everything has become better. Story telling, chracters, pacing, gameplay. Games are a lot less bland than they used to be. Gaming is a slow evolution. Its very, very slow. Try a game now & ther go back & play a game from last gen. a Massive, massive difference

Just take any action & adventure game of last gen & then compare it to UC3.Massive difference

Take the best Batman game of last gen & compare it with Arkham city.

Take Read Dead revolver & compare it with Red Dead Redmption

Take Skyrim & compare it with Morrowind

Take Cod 1 & compare it with cod4

The comparisons are endless. Games are better in every way. The only exception being games seem less unique this day in age & every games seems to be a FPS game.I dont remember any game offering what ive seen with games like Bioshock, Bioshock Infinite, far cry 3, Tomb raider reboot, Uncharted 3, & so much more

The only thing that looks the same as last gen is animation. Games like UC have the best animation ever seen in a game & they continue to evolve their animation while everybody else stays the same. How about next gen we forget graphics & focus on animation

brucecambell

Game play, story, graphics. Only one of those has changed from last gen. Sure there are different worlds, different stories because of these worlds, but it's the same formula. Play through each level with one outcome. This is okay with books and movies because they can't change from start to finish. They will never have the same replay as games do. But this is the importance of the gamer. Do we want games to have the same re-playability as movies? Yep. It's good enough says this gen.

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#43 EntropyWins
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It hit its peak on the SNES.

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#44 LORD_BLACKGULT
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Gaming has reached its peak? :lol:

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#45 Thuganomic05
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How about the fact that controllers are starting to slowly be phased out of console gaming? Wii... then the Playstation's Move... then the completely controllerless Kinect.
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#46 Giant_Panda
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To Sum Up What This Gen Brought:

Good:

  • Better Online Multiplayer
  • More Online/Multimedia Functionality
  • Extension of Games through DLC
  • Beginning of Player Created Content
  • Bringing smaller Indie games to mass market
  • Better Graphics, destruction, cinematics

Bad:

  • Linearization of Many Games
  • FPS copy cat saturation
  • Declining use of Local/Splitscreen mutliplayer
  • Greedy Corporation practices such as stupid DRM, rip-off DLC, micro-transactions
  • SOARING DEV COSTS

I might be missing a few. So as we can see there are good things and there are bad things. Overall the net positive change is probably close to zero though.

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#47 AtlanticRock
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I'm thankful for this gen because:

  • The return of Fighting Games & Sidescrolling genre
  • Sonic The Hedgehog games (Colors and Generations)
  • Arkham Asylum and Arkham City

Things I'm ungrateful for this gen:

  • The murder of the Resident Evil series (Resident Evil 5)

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#48 hawk549
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Last gen didnt have Arkham Asylum or Arkham City...or GeoW.

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#49 hawk549
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It hit its peak on the SNES.

EntropyWins

amen brotha

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#50 ActionRemix
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This is my favorite gen. : D