gaming is slowly dying...everything has been done already..whats left?

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#1 kato_
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I have been noticing this and to me it seems that all games are just repeated over and over again with better graphics.

Final Fantasy XXX anyone?
Metal Gear Solid 10 maybe?
GTA 6 ?

Xbox 10?

Playstation 15?

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#3 NintendoJess
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gaming wont ever die as long as nintendo keeps being innovative with things like the ds and the wii
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#4 MrGrimFandango
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Same with movies, oh wait....

Last genre invented was mockumentary i beleive.

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#5 Dibdibdobdobo
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I have been noticing this and to me it seems that all games are just repeated over and over again with better graphics.

Final Fantasy XXX anyone?
Metal Gear Solid 10 maybe?
GTA 6 ?

Xbox 10?

Playstation 15?

kato_

As production costs have got higher and higher less developers will take risks with new franchises or new ideas within there old franchises. It could be said that this generation is the generation of the REHASH! Though i disagree with the industry dying but i will agree that innovation has ceased to exist in majority of the larger developers.

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#7 1carus
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Look. This is a ridiculous statement. I, personally, think games aren't as good as they were in the 90s, but this certainly doesn't mean it's dying. If anything it's sprouted rapidly recently and will be evern huger in a couple of years.

Just because there appear to be no good ideas coming doesn't mean the industry is "dying." Back in the 30s were movies considered dying because there weren't any new genres coming out? No, the industry simply perfected the genres over time, which the same will happen to games. Games have a large way to go, and with the massive following of it all now, the statement "gaming is dying" could not be further from the truth.

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#8 delol
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Gaming is very much alive
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#9 KungfuKitten
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[QUOTE="kato_"]

I have been noticing this and to me it seems that all games are just repeated over and over again with better graphics.

Final Fantasy XXX anyone?
Metal Gear Solid 10 maybe?
GTA 6 ?

Xbox 10?

Playstation 15?

Dibdibdobdobo

As production costs have got higher and higher less developers will take risks with new franchises or new ideas within there old franchises. It could be said that this generation is the generation of the REHASH!


Actually i didn't expect to see any new games this generation but things didn't turn out That bad.
You know, World of goo, Patapon, The world ends with You.
No more heroes and Afro samurai seem pretty different too.
Boom Blox, and Little big planet, and APB.
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#10 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="kato_"]

I have been noticing this and to me it seems that all games are just repeated over and over again with better graphics.

Final Fantasy XXX anyone?
Metal Gear Solid 10 maybe?
GTA 6 ?

Xbox 10?

Playstation 15?

KungfuKitten

As production costs have got higher and higher less developers will take risks with new franchises or new ideas within there old franchises. It could be said that this generation is the generation of the REHASH!


Actually i didn't expect to see any new games this generation but things didn't turn out That bad.
You know, World of goo, Patapon, The world ends with You. Well that's three already out of the top of my head.

Yes all 3 of those games look quite intresting. I expected more orignal games though or new ideas within old franchises to keep it feeling fresh instead of it feeling like I have done it all previously. Graphical ability means nothing to me if the game is going to make me suffer with Deja Vou.

Yes No More Heroes was quite intresting though i disliked the game. Lost winds looks intresting too. Little Big Planet looks the most innovative game to grace the PS3. I'm yet to see Afro Samurai (dont like the Series), Boom Blox is the only orignal game from EA in years (its EA isnt it?). Though none of those can be compared to productions as of the likes of MGS4, GeOW2, RE5, GT5, Tekken 6, FIFA08 in time, effort and money spent on them! Its quite clear that rehashes in many companies eyes is the only way to produce games as its safe and easier to do that than to produce a good quality orignal game where they would have to design the characters, Plot, Back drops and so forth.... With a REHASH half the battle is won as you already have the gaming mechanics set in stone, Main Characters, The plot is easier to follow up than to create a new game plot with new characters.

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#11 NerdMan
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I have been noticing this and to me it seems that all games are just repeated over and over again with better graphics.

Final Fantasy XXX anyone?
Metal Gear Solid 10 maybe?
GTA 6 ?

Xbox 10?

Playstation 15?

kato_

That certainly seems to be the route console gaming is taking. Good thing we still have the PC with it's massive variety of games and developers.

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#12 Marka1700
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The gaming industry grew 17% last year. Hardly dying.

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#13 GidgetGein
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The Industry is hardly dying. But like all media markets there is slumps and "golden ages" the last years. Advances in technology open up new trends that might trigger a new golden age. Most movies in the 50's where Westerns. Now theres hardly any. Look what the CGI did for movies in the 90s. The SciFi movie genre looked crappy and had died till CGI came around. Sequels will be around till they are no longer profitable I.E Nightmare on Elm Street 6. The System name numbering wont last past 3 or 4 to avoid consumer confusion. Better technology will open new ways to enjoy games and keep the market growing.
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#14 Minion123
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yes and just look at how long people have been playing games like basketball or tennis, or soccer... no major innovations within the past 20 years and just look how they are going downhill. relax as long as the games are fun thats all that matters. new games for every generation, but all fundamentally the same, and if they play well people will continue to play
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#15 Gamer_152
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Dying? Not by a long shot. The indutry is growing larger and larger but there has always been innovation and always will be. Compared to some art forms video gaming is in but its infancy and can do nothing but grow and improve, the games we play today are testament to that.
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#16 Hewkii
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there was a man around the turn of the 20th century that said that we should close the patent offices because there was nothing left to invent. don't think like that.
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#17 ejstrup
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Gaming isn't dying.. you're just growing tired of it. You could say the same about movies, books, tv shows, music or anything really..
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#18 omarguy01
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i've always liked to compare gaming to the film industry... movies aren't going anywhere. similarly, neither are games... at least i think so
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#19 lowe0
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Doing it better. Rock Band was done years ago in Japanese arcades, but until it came home and allowed 4 friends to join in, it never really took off over here.
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#20 sambalimbo
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I have been noticing this and to me it seems that all games are just repeated over and over again with better graphics.

Final Fantasy XXX anyone?
Metal Gear Solid 10 maybe?
GTA 6 ?

Xbox 10?

Playstation 15?

kato_

bioshock and assassin's creed are new and fresh original ip's, same goes to spore on pc and there is surely a lot more i cant think of right now so now innovation never ends

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#21 KungfuKitten
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Developers say there is no shortage of ideas.
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#22 FrozenLiquid
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i've always liked to compare gaming to the film industry... movies aren't going anywhere. similarly, neither are games... at least i think soomarguy01
You shouldn't have compared them actually. Games are still at the stage of being an exhibition (has been so for about 25 years) Movies have been seen as an art form for decades. As an 'exhibition', games can get stagnant. As an art form, movies can't. So, it's time for games to start finding its place as a medium, if not it will truly stagnant and wither away.
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#23 l-_-l
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I have been noticing this and to me it seems that all games are just repeated over and over again with better graphics.

Final Fantasy XXX anyone?
Metal Gear Solid 10 maybe?
GTA 6 ?

Xbox 10?

Playstation 15?

kato_
:lol: You don't know nothing about Final Fantasy, that part you made crystal clear. If you did, you would know that FF is a new game every time (with the exception of FFX-2 and the handhelds). New characters, new location, new story, pretty much new everything.
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#24 FrozenLiquid
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[QUOTE="kato_"]

I have been noticing this and to me it seems that all games are just repeated over and over again with better graphics.

Final Fantasy XXX anyone?
Metal Gear Solid 10 maybe?
GTA 6 ?

Xbox 10?

Playstation 15?

l-_-l
:lol: You don't know nothing about Final Fantasy, that part you made crystal clear. If you did, you would know that FF is a new game every time (with the exception of FFX-2 and the handhelds). New characters, new location, new story, pretty much new everything.

it took 12 iterations for it to have a completely overhauled battle system didn't it?
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#25 htotheo
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What are you talking about gaming is still very much alive and while many games have had sequals many orginal games have come out. Skate from EA mind you. Dead Rising from capcom, Gears of war(to some extent made cover gameplay really acceable) GTA4, etc.
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#26 FunkyHeadHunter
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We might have a crash like in the 80's, but it will never just die. Everyone my age and younger and even some older then me games...
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#27 Firelore29
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Revenues across the industry have been consistently increasing. Your claim is simply wrong. Who cares if there is Final Fantasy 30 if it's still fun. We still watch Super Bowl XLII don't we?
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#28 St_muscat
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Um as of today gaming has never been more alive.
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#29 ithilgore2006
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Gaming is dying because you don't like sequels. Right

I think you mean "Creativity in gaming is dying", gaming itself is bigger then it's ever been before, and it's getting even larger.

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#30 Jenova_Flare
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How about this...

Flying dogs. With rollerskates. They eat cheese and live in a cosmic apartment, and they're in a relationship...and they're both guys.

And they have to play chess with giant space bacterium. But it isnt chess it's darts but with no board.

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#31 KGB32
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gaming is definitely NOT dying, this must be a joke topic.
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#32 mohfrontline
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I see your point, but the industry doesn't look dying to me. If anything it seems to be growing.
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#33 l-_-l
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[QUOTE="l-_-l"][QUOTE="kato_"]

I have been noticing this and to me it seems that all games are just repeated over and over again with better graphics.

Final Fantasy XXX anyone?
Metal Gear Solid 10 maybe?
GTA 6 ?

Xbox 10?

Playstation 15?

FrozenLiquid

:lol: You don't know nothing about Final Fantasy, that part you made crystal clear. If you did, you would know that FF is a new game every time (with the exception of FFX-2 and the handhelds). New characters, new location, new story, pretty much new everything.

it took 12 iterations for it to have a completely overhauled battle system didn't it?

God no. It has changed a few times. Hell there was a big change just between 7 and 8 alone. And X is plenty different from 8 (didn't play 9). 11 was a online only game. I guess I was right after all, you don't know nothing about FF games.

EDIT: Lets not forget how different Final Fantasy Tactics is from the main FF games.

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#34 NinjaMunkey01
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I see your point, but the industry doesn't look dying to me. If anything it seems to be growing.mohfrontline

exactly.

Plus there may not be any new generas, but the generas that we already have are always getting better.

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#35 Tylendal
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As long as Nintendo is around, things aren't going to get stale.
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#36 Truth_Hurts_U
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The only thing that will happen is... Crap games will sell less then good high quality ones.

Which is the way it works now a days.

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#37 elmoXPXP
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Im playing GTA4 and Puzzle Quest at the mo on 360 and things are looking pretty good. People have nostaliga for the past. My favourite game of all time is Ultima Underworld, a PC game from 1991 that was probably better than Oblivion if you took away all the modern graphics.
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#38 EddieTheGreat
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Lol gaming is only just starting to go much more mainstream, so many more people are playing games these days, gaming is anything but dying.
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#39 Franko_3
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gaming is not dying, but creativity is tc. When it cost you 30 million to devellop a single console game, you make sure it will be widely accepted by everyone. If you create another ip, what you have to do? Steal the idea of the other games, make your game an hybrid of something and make your game open-ended (optional)!

Assasin creed took the idea of prince of persia and made it open ended, woot bingo=$$$. Mass effect=kotor+fps+open ended= $$$$$ Gta4=gta3:sa+better graphic+physic+not a black guy as the hero ( :roll: )+open ended=10/10= $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Bioshock=System shock 2+better graphic+dumbed dumbed down rpg element=win

If you want innovation, come on the pc, this year will be fabulous with all these new develloper making new and attractive game that you can get for half the price of a normal console game

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#40 TOAO_Cyrus1
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I have been noticing this and to me it seems that all games are just repeated over and over again with better graphics.

Final Fantasy XXX anyone?
Metal Gear Solid 10 maybe?
GTA 6 ?

Xbox 10?

Playstation 15?

kato_

Uh Hu... the gaming industries unprecedented 57% growth in march proves you wrong.

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#41 -Wheels-
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You know the US patent office closed for a couple years in the late 1800's because they thought everything had been invented already? This is where we are with games. I'm sure there's TONS more to see.
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#42 adastos
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bioshock and assassin's creed are new and fresh original ip's, same goes to spore on pc and there is surely a lot more i cant think of right now so now innovation never ends sambalimbo

Bioshock is basically a System Shock copy, so it is not exactly a fresh orignal.

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#43 Senor_Kami
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There aren't too many (if any) undiscovered genres out there. The originals have pretty much been perfected. The next level combining genres. Any game fused with the story and character development elements of a typical RPG would push that into being the next big thing. Still waiting for that though.
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#44 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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gaming is far from dead, if everythings the same to you lately you should try games like TWEWY on DS
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#45 bobbetybob
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Like people said, it's the same with movies, music, everything. It'll come to a point where there are not many new things you can do, all you have to hope is that every so often a game comes out that does what the Matrix did for films and sort of be super original yet not rubbish. I suppose the difference between films and games is, a movie is just watching it, when you are playing a game that's exactly the same as another, it's like, well hang on, I already played this game but in a jungle and with a different story...
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#46 Dr_Corndog
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You know, a hundred or so years ago, someone in the US government suggested closing down the patent office because, supposedly, there was nothing left to invent. That was before the invention of the automobile, the airplane, the television, the personal computer, the cell phone, etc. etc.
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#47 Supafly1
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How can gaming die if the gaming market is growing? I can see that some genres might actually fade away but gaming itself is nowhere near dying.
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#48 hmac777
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Just because you cannot concieve it, does not mean there is not something new right around the corner. People in the mid 20th century could not image such a a power as the internet, and yet here it is. Technology grows my leaps and bounds, and as long as there is technology innovation, people will continue to creatively innovate as well.
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#49 lawlessx
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It's not the industry thats dieing;its your love for it. you're acting as if we dont see any new IP's when there are alot of them releasing this year and beyond
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#50 Lazy_Boy88
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gaming wont ever die as long as nintendo keeps being innovative with things like the ds and the wiiNintendoJess

Nintendo's continued popularity is exactly what's killing gaming.