Gaming with a controller is da best

Yeah, because clicking the LMB with your index finger is SO different than pushing in a tiny plastic trigger with your.... index finger. And we all know that little rumble is JUST like the recoil of a gun. And I'm sure it takes you 10 seconds instead of an instant to turn around and look at something in real life as well...

Come on man... preference is preference, but please don't say twiddling your thumbs equates more to real life actions then another, just as unrealistic input method.

@The_Stand_In: It does. I'm not saying that it is even close to an exact simulation, but between the two, it is closer to the real actions than just point-and-clicking with a mouse with unrealistic speed and accuracy while getting absolutely no feedback. And to some people, that closer simulation (no matter how minor) makes for a more enjoyable experience than point-and-clicking at a monitor with a speed and accuracy that is not possible in real life.

I agree that preference is preference, I even said that in one of my earlier posts, but if you guys are going to try to claim that playing with a keyboard and mouse is objectively better than a controller then I'm going to point out ways that it is not objectively better. You can make fun of a "tiny plastic trigger" and a "little rumble" all you want, but that's still closer to the real thing than no trigger and no feedback while you just point-and-click on a monitor with a speed and accuracy that is not possible in real life.

I'm not saying that a controller is objectively better than a keyboard/mouse for FPS; I think that it's all a matter of preference. I'm merely pointing out some advantages that a controller has and reasons why some people prefer playing with a controller in response to a post that claimed that a keyboard/mouse was objectively better. I prefer playing with a controller, but I can still understand why some people prefer playing with a keyboard/mouse. I just want the other side to open up their mind a little and try to understand why a keyboard/mouse is not enjoyable for everybody instead of having their "PC Master Race" mindset and trying to claim that a keyboard/mouse is the objectively superior way to play.

I prefer gaming on a controller to KB/M as well.

Don't get me wrong I wouldn't plug in a controller for Counter-Strike or anything though.

kb and Mouse is better for shooters and strategy games. For action rpgs, platforming, racing, sports, I prefer a controller. It's all about options. Can you pick and choose?

@DocSanchez:

You would have thought they'd be an option on consoles by now, especially given the media box functions they also serve.

gee, that's neat.

Have you people ever shot a real gun?

Also, here we go again with worse and less intuitive controls=realism.

@Phreek300: whoa! That's what I've been wanting. What is it??

To sum up some of the posters in this thread:

"Controllers are more realistic then mouse and keyboard guys!"

"Just like shooting a real gun guys!"

"Worse and less intuitive controls that vibrate=realism guys!"

I can't get enough this.

Kind of on topic: has anyone used the farpoint controller? Is it only for that one game? Is the experience worth it?(I really want a psvr with a fps shooter like this... I'd settle for using a controller too)

hahahahaha.....

Really depends on the game for me. Just yesterday I used an arcade stick, a Sega Saturn pad, a 360 controller, and m/kb across various games. Considering a new racing wheel purchase soon too.

First I just go with what's actually the best for a specific game type. I know I'm not going to use a controller to play Unreal Tournament or m/kb to play Bayonetta.

If it doesn't matter either way, then I just go with what I personally find more fun. Like if I'm playing some old 2d arcade beat 'em up, any control type will do, but I just use the arcade stick because I find it more enjoyable.

But generally, nah, it's not a one size fits all thing for me. Always funny when I see a PC gamer bitch about controllers, or a console gamer bitch about m/kb. I know people like their comfort zones, but it doesn't take much effort at all to adapt to an input device better suited for the job. And for that minimal effort, you get to enjoy a whole shit load more games while not suffering the limitations of an ill suited input device.

Of course this is a forum that will compare two controllers that are almost identical and pretend one of them cures cancer while the other one makes your hands fall off. If a lot of people here can't adapt to the minor differences between Xbox, PS, and Nintendo controllers, I'm not expecting them to truly broaden their horizons lol.

Sucks for them.

I have one, but admittedly don't use it that much.

It is a great controller, and given its range of functionality and depth of customization options, it's probably the best one-size-fits-all controller out there.

But it's wasted on me because I'm not usually interested in a best of both worlds solution. Most of the time I'd rather just use the control type that a game was truly built for.

Of course you can just use it as a regular controller and ignore the other functions, but then it's like... why?

Definitely depends on the game. I'm not sure how I finished RE4 and RE5 with keyboard and mouse. That was an awful experience.

I suppose we could make an equally stupid argument and say that wasd movement is more realistic than analog.

"Come on guys! It's like we can pretend our fingers are little legs moving in different directions!"

But yeah it's so dumb. Neither controllers, nor m/kb come close to portraying any of the actions done in most video games.

Just for shits though:

@Phreek300: what is that I want it

Only game I prefer a controller for is souls games

I use whatever is best for the type of game I am playing. M+KB for shooters/RTS, controller for platformers/sports/fighting, wheel for racing, joystick for flying, etc.. No need to limit yourself.

I don't know how anybody finished RE4 in the first place. Not being able to move and shoot at the same time ruined that game for me. Apparently the game was good, but the control scheme was just not something I was willing to overlook. I borrowed my friend's Gamecube copy and it did not last long in my system. hehe :)

Resident Evil was like that since the beginning, and Onimusha series (except 4) on PS2 had the tank controls as well. I liked it, and it's just much better with a controller. The game is easy enough as it is with the tank controls...just not with the keyboard specifically. The mouse was awesome for aiming.

@hrt_rulz01: exactly my thoughts, the DumbShit 4.

I am not denying that RE is known for clunky controls. However, it was not a third person action-shooter until RE4. For that type of game, you need a better control scheme. Having to always stop to shoot is just not something that leads to good gameplay. The movement was still clunky as well and did not help matters.

Lol... it's so uncomfortable. And the parallel analogue sticks are horrible. And that waste of space touch pad thing.

The only thing I like about it is the inbuilt speaker.

Oh of course... I forgot about the battery life. Absolutely ridiculous.

My only beef with the DS4 is those damn triggers. Cheap ass shit. On one of my DS4s, the triggers started squeaking the first week I had it. On the other one, the right trigger just fell out lol.

Never had the issue with rubber coming off the sticks, though it does seem common. I wonder if the manufacturing process, or materials used vary, or have improved over time. I didn't buy a launch PS4, so maybe that's why.

@ConanTheStoner:

The light bar is fucking ridiculous.

SWITCH PRO CONTROLLER. Thats the best one.

I did some improvements to the DumbShit 4:

Changed the joysticks for aluminum ones which are slighty taller

Added thumb grips

I found a great silicone cover that really helps

I'm looking for replacement triggers because the original ones suck dick, they are too short. I found a set of extensions so I'm going to try with those.

I love the analog triggers on it. Oh wait....

Seriously jelly. I've been saying it for a while now, but I really want to buy a 360 again, just for that game. I keep dreaming that it might get ported to PC or a current console, but I just need to accept that it's not gonna happen.

@BassMan:

Analog triggers are a waste. Unresponsive.

Damn, was that 360 new or used? For $99 I'd be all over a new 360, wouldn't even think twice about it lol.

And yeah man, I feel ya. NG2 is superb, definitely my favorite combat in any beat em up. Sigma 2 is such a bastardization of that game. Shame that they removed the large hoards of enemies and neutered the brutality of the game. It's like drinking diet coke through a coffee straw instead of guzzling a sugary coke from the fountain. It's like smoking a Virginia Slim menthol 120 when what you really crave is a Garcia Vega packed with some sensi star. Shit just ain't right!

I still prefer Black as an all around game, but when it comes to the finer points of fucking shit up, NG2 really has no peers.

@getyeryayasout:

Sounds even better than what we discussed, PM you on that one in a few.

Well, it is a huge benefit to racing games.

How are they unresponsive?

FPS with a controller sucks hard.

You GameSpot posters.. Bunch of casuals with opinions.

Agreed. It's just more comfortable. Analogs give me better control of whatever I have to do. Moving or racing.

What a stupid topic. There is no single best input device for every game. It depends on the genre or even game and a bit on personal preference what input device is the best.

I prefer controllers

@BassMan:

Because 99% of the time they are used as digital switches.

I prefer controllers too, but it's a matter of opinion.

Realism bois.

Bidet master race.

Good thing you can have all types of input peripherals on PC. And even have access to controllers you can't find on consoles.

@Phreek300 said:

I like something like this as a compromise.

I've used these. They are simply awful.

Give me mouse and keyboard, or give me death(unless it's Dark Souls, racer or platformer).

I don't know about you guys, but I only use the Nintendo controller with joy2key on PC to browse the web. Does that make me hardcore like samfisher? :D