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[QUOTE="umcommon"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]
I remember when the Wii was getting last Generation ports.
Now, we are reading about the Wii U getting this generation ports.
It's nice and all, and I hope the developer PR is accurate...but it's not a reason to buy a new machine. I'm not buying a Wii U to play Gearbox games, AC3, or Madden. I will buy a Wii U to play exclusives that take advantage of their tablet gaming. I'm not interested in cross developed multiplats that try to shoehorn that tablet into stupid non-ergonomic functions. While I have no idea if that's what Gearbox is doing, it's certainly something I expect from a ton of multiplatform 3rd party developers/publishers.
I am not sure this bodes well when the other next generation machines roll out (720/PS4), if there is a similar divide again between Nintendo and the other console companies (graphical fidelity), we will see a repeat of 3rd parties leaving the Wii U for higher tech pastures. It's up to 720/PS4 to deliver of course.
It all comes down to this : "When it releases, I'll look at the game then." :)SolidTy
If everyone thinks like you this will be a huge problem for Nintendo especially if the system is on par with ps4/nextbox horse power and online wise. Yes the Wii remote had countless functions tacked/forced on, but this tablet controller is pretty much a traditional controller with an EXTRA feature, not a complete re-invention. Maybe games like AC3 wouldn't get a huge benefit from the controller, but that's ok because I highly doubt the tablet would add any negatives. However, games like Madden, Pikmin, Skyrim or a complex RPG like it would all benefit greatly in their own way by having a private screen in front of them with touchscreen capabilities. If anything the touchscreen would make these games more ergonomic and streamline function wise as long as the developers use at least a little restraint and use it for practical reasons.
Anyone that played on DS for years can imagine some ideas on how this Tablet will work. Heck, I even hooked up multiple GBA's to my Gamecube for Pac-man Vs., Zelda, and Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles. I definitely can imagine what's going to happen.
HOWEVER, if that hypothetical 720/PS4 technological/Graphics/Physics/Textures/RAM divide occurs, then playing 3rd party games on the Wii U won't be as exciting if the other machines have a huge upgrade in graphics (720/PS4) and better online. That's assuming they get the same games that the Wii U.PS360 are getting. In fact, some 3rd party devs may jump ship if the Tech. divide is too large (we have no idea yet on that though).
The other problem is ONLINE. As neato as Touchscreen gaming may be, other gamers play their Sports and COD games for simply the online. That's going to be a very difficult uphill battle winning them over. In a game like Aliens, online seems to be a huge focus for Gearbox and this title.
As far as the idea of using item management in RPGs, we've already seen that in DS RPG's (like Castlevania Item Management for instance). Console gamers today simply hit Select to get to that screen, whereas presumably the Wii U gamers will just look down at their smaller tablet screen in their hand (like DS in it's two screens). Is that an advantage? I'm not so sure. It comes down to looking down repeatedly vs. hitting select repeately. Either way, your eyes are adjusting either to the select screen or the lower resolution tablet screen.
There is a lot to take in, but I do hope developers to try to utilze the tablet in pragmatice ways.
Ini the meantime, I'm sure Nintendo has great ideas to show off when the system releases/@ E3.
Also, the Nextbox was the code name for the Xbox 360. :P
[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="finalstar2007"]Is this where I deliver my acceptance speech? :P You're such a whore. What, your friends not good enough for you? Have to jack off WITH fanboys now. What the ****?You have fans you should be proud :P
Zariano
:lol::lol:
[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="finalstar2007"]Is this where I deliver my acceptance speech? :P You're such a whore. What, your friends not good enough for you? Have to jack off WITH fanboys now. What the ****? What's wrong with this guy? 0_oYou have fans you should be proud :P
Zariano
[QUOTE="Zariano"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] Is this where I deliver my acceptance speech? :Pkhoofia_pikaYou're such a whore. What, your friends not good enough for you? Have to jack off WITH fanboys now. What the ****? What's wrong with this guy? 0_o
He's an alt account of some banned user that loves to stalk charizard.
What's wrong with this guy? 0_o[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="Zariano"] You're such a whore. What, your friends not good enough for you? Have to jack off WITH fanboys now. What the ****?super600
He's an alt account of some banned user that loves to stalk charizard.
Charizard has hateful stalkers? :O I. AM. SO. JEALOUS. :evil:Am sure its a good thing that Wii:U is managing to be better than PS3/360 as said by this developer.
Whether hes trying to MAKE people buy the game on the Wii:U is another matter too..
But..
Lets see how much "better" Wii:U is to todays PC games, the eventual release of 720 and PS4 and not being compared to 5-6 year old machines ;)
Truth.
- It's a very powerful system. More so than 360/PS3.Gearbox
lol at 360/PS3 being regarded as very powerful systems. The iPad is catching up to the 360 in terms of power.
I hope Nintendo deliver and don't just go down the Wii route again, with the WiiU having slightly more power than current gen. If it is they better make use of the tablet, I don't want to have any Wii situations like Twilight Princess and Donkey Kong with waggle controls (the WiiU controller just being a map screen). Otherwise I might pick one up at the end of next gen, and just buy one for cheap to play the best Nintendo game from that gen.
I really want Nintendo to deliver like they did with the DS, and what looks to be the 3DS too.
[QUOTE="Gearbox"]- It's a very powerful system. More so than 360/PS3.APiranhaAteMyVa
lol at 360/PS3 being regarded as very powerful systems. The iPad is catching up to the 360 in terms of power.
I hope Nintendo deliver and don't just go down the Wii route again, with the WiiU having slightly more power than current gen. If it is they better make use of the tablet, I don't want to have any Wii situations like Twilight Princess and Donkey Kong with waggle controls (the WiiU controller just being a map screen). Otherwise I might pick one up at the end of next gen, and just buy one for cheap to play the best Nintendo game from that gen.
I really want Nintendo to deliver like they did with the DS, and what looks to be the 3DS too.
Actually, the WiiU is much more powerful than the current gen systems.[QUOTE="APiranhaAteMyVa"][QUOTE="Gearbox"]- It's a very powerful system. More so than 360/PS3.LastRambo341
lol at 360/PS3 being regarded as very powerful systems. The iPad is catching up to the 360 in terms of power.
I hope Nintendo deliver and don't just go down the Wii route again, with the WiiU having slightly more power than current gen. If it is they better make use of the tablet, I don't want to have any Wii situations like Twilight Princess and Donkey Kong with waggle controls (the WiiU controller just being a map screen). Otherwise I might pick one up at the end of next gen, and just buy one for cheap to play the best Nintendo game from that gen.
I really want Nintendo to deliver like they did with the DS, and what looks to be the 3DS too.
Actually, the WiiU is much more powerful than the current gen systems. I don't know in that case that quote should be "It's a very powerful system. considerably more powerful than 360/PS3". To me it reads more like the WiiU is more powerful, but pretty comparable to current gen. The Wii was more powerful than the Gamecube but not considerably so, I guess we will see when E3 rolls around. I hope it is much more powerful though than 360/PS3.[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="finalstar2007"]Is this where I deliver my acceptance speech? :P You're such a whore. What, your friends not good enough for you? Have to jack off WITH fanboys now. What the ****? someone's jelly they don't have fans.You have fans you should be proud :P
Zariano
[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="finalstar2007"]Is this where I deliver my acceptance speech? :P You're such a whore. What, your friends not good enough for you? Have to jack off WITH fanboys now. What the ****?You have fans you should be proud :P
Zariano
My f*ckin gawd, Im DEAD :lol::lol::P
Lies! I was told by some questionable unknown developers that the Wii U is weaker than the 360/PS3! And they are obviously more trustworthy than reliable developers!
[QUOTE="nameless12345"]He specifically says more powerful than Xbox 360 and PS3, and that it's a powerful machine that's a 'true' next gen system. No context needed.Best-looking *console* version. Also, you should put the "very powerful" and "next-gen" statements into context.
It's likley very powerful compared to the Wii and it's the next-gen Nintendo console.
charizard1605
Not even he can say that until we see what MS and Sony brings. The true next gen specs are at the level the others decide on. The Wii U could be twice as powerful as a 360, but the next MS console could be many more times that, so as much as people want to say it's "true" next gen, that's technically not known yet.
He specifically says more powerful than Xbox 360 and PS3, and that it's a powerful machine that's a 'true' next gen system. No context needed.[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]
Best-looking *console* version. Also, you should put the "very powerful" and "next-gen" statements into context.
It's likley very powerful compared to the Wii and it's the next-gen Nintendo console.
HalcyonScarlet
Not even he can say that until we see what MS and Sony brings. The true next gen specs are at the level the others decide on. The Wii U could be twice as powerful as a 360, but the next MS console could be many more times that, so as much as people want to say it's "true" next gen, that's technically not known yet.
Wow, so you're gonna be one of those people who think that the Ps4 and 720 will be super super duper duper powerful?[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] He specifically says more powerful than Xbox 360 and PS3, and that it's a powerful machine that's a 'true' next gen system. No context needed.LastRambo341
Not even he can say that until we see what MS and Sony brings. The true next gen specs are at the level the others decide on. The Wii U could be twice as powerful as a 360, but the next MS console could be many more times that, so as much as people want to say it's "true" next gen, that's technically not known yet.
Wow, so you're gonna be one of those people who think that the Ps4 and 720 will be super super duper duper powerful?I don't know, but they wont release something only a bit more powerful then the current gen. Also MS and Sony aren't innovative enough to be able to rely on a gimmick like Nintendo, so they do have to go the power route. They would be insane to release a console only twice as powerful as the current gen.
My point was, until we see the level of power the competition decide on (whatever that may be), how can anyone claim the Wii U to be "true" next gen right now.
Hmm if that is real Wii U footage then I am already comforted. It looks at least as good as the rest of the footage which would suggest it at least is on level with 360/ps3.
Wow, so you're gonna be one of those people who think that the Ps4 and 720 will be super super duper duper powerful?[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]
Not even he can say that until we see what MS and Sony brings. The true next gen specs are at the level the others decide on. The Wii U could be twice as powerful as a 360, but the next MS console could be many more times that, so as much as people want to say it's "true" next gen, that's technically not known yet.
HalcyonScarlet
I don't know, but they wont release something only a bit more powerful then the current gen. Also MS and Sony aren't innovative enough to be able to rely on a gimmick like Nintendo, so they do have to go the power route. They would be insane to release a console only twice as powerful as the current gen.
My point was, until we see the level of power the competition decide on (whatever that may be), how can anyone claim the Wii U to be "true" next gen right now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zwxOGAtBd8&list=UUBQnkb7JjTfpaIARq53ZLGQ&index=3&feature=plcpAsymmetrical competitive multiplayer
Has already been done with alien vs predator 3 how about something new?
[QUOTE="SolidTy"]Remember when the Xbox 360 got a year's worth of PS2 ports? Burnout Revenge, The Godfather, Bully, Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit and Carbon, and the like? Remember when the PS3 got old ports for the first two years of its existence? Bioshock, Elder Scrolls, Carbon, and the like? Hell, last year, remember when the 3DS got ports for almost a year? Every new system receives ports for the first year or so of its existence. It's the fast4est way to build a solid library while coming to terms with the system's quirks. You've been gaming for so long dude, you of all people should know this.' As for how powerful the Wii U is with respect to the X720 and PS4, it is incredibly likely the next machines from Sony and Microsoft will be modest bumps over the PS3 and Xbox 360, putting the Wii U in the same ballpark as them.[/QUOTE Actually almost all systems DON'T rely on ports the first year.I remember when the Wii was getting last Generation ports.
Now, we are reading about the Wii U getting this generation ports.
It's nice and all, and I hope the developer PR is accurate...but it's not a reason to buy a new machine. I'm not buying a Wii U to play Gearbox games, AC3, or Madden. I will buy a Wii U to play exclusives that take advantage of their tablet gaming. I'm not interested in cross developed multiplats that try to shoehorn that tablet into stupid non-ergonomic functions. While I have no idea if that's what Gearbox is doing, it's certainly something I expect from a ton of multiplatform 3rd party developers/publishers.
I am not sure this bodes well when the other next generation machines roll out (720/PS4), if there is a similar divide again, we will see a repeat of 3rd parties leaving the Wii U for higher tech pastures. It's up to 720/PS4 to deliver of course.
It all comes down to this : "When it releases, I'll look at the game then." :)
charizard1605
Best-looking *console* version. Also, you should put the "very powerful" and "next-gen" statements into context.
It's likley very powerful compared to the Wii and it's the next-gen Nintendo console.
nameless12345
This.
Also ""WiiU controller is "amazing" for shooters..??""...good luck with that....:lol:
[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] Nintendo is always a generation behind? The only console that was behind was the Wii. That's it. You have been gaming for quite a while, you should know how inaccurate your statement is.charizard1605n64 with cartridges :P That's a storage medium, though :P
That's a storage medium, though :P[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="campzor"] n64 with cartridges :Pcampzor
- Wants to remain faithful to the Alien franchise.Summary lifted off of NeoGAF:
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http://www.gamespot.com/aliens-colon...hford-6377485/
The game looks pretty good, and the Wii U bit starts at 7:24
He said that the Wii U version is the best looking version, and that the controller is amazing for shooters. He also stated that Gearbox wouldn't have made Wii U version if the system didn't have a good online structure. He also reiterated that the Wii U IS a next gen system and that it is a powerful machine.
added BY2K summary:
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Gearbox President Randy Pitchford speaks at length about the conception of Aliens: Colonial Marines, working with Ridley Scott, Asymmetrical competitive multiplayer and why the Wii-U version of the game is going to be the best-looking.charizard1605
[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"][QUOTE="LastRambo341"] Wow, so you're gonna be one of those people who think that the Ps4 and 720 will be super super duper duper powerful?LastRambo341
I don't know, but they wont release something only a bit more powerful then the current gen. Also MS and Sony aren't innovative enough to be able to rely on a gimmick like Nintendo, so they do have to go the power route. They would be insane to release a console only twice as powerful as the current gen.
My point was, until we see the level of power the competition decide on (whatever that may be), how can anyone claim the Wii U to be "true" next gen right now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zwxOGAtBd8&list=UUBQnkb7JjTfpaIARq53ZLGQ&index=3&feature=plcpI can't make the point I was trying to, any clearer.
Everything right now about the 720 and PS4 is speculation.
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