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#101 mingo123
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lol at cows and hermits trying to prove Gears 2 doesnt look better then gears pc
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#102 mohfrontline
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don't agree, I don't really care about lighting sequences. I care about it being a good game, and shadows won't ruin that.
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#103 clone01
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we must be looking at 2 different games, then. i think gears 2 looks flippin' sweet.
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#104 MetroidPrimePwn
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lol at cows and hermits trying to prove Gears 2 doesnt look better then gears pcmingo123

Eh, this is the stuff we get on System Wars.

At least this makes more sense than the "can Gears of War 2 run Crysys" topic...

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#105 Adrian_Cloud
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Looks just as hot as Gears 1, whats wrong with that?
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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="supras989"][QUOTE="slothboyadvance"][QUOTE="Relys"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

Heres level 1 on casual.

Bebi_vegeta

Why is there a naked emblum of a human women on an alien space craft?... Nevermind, I don't want to know.

You silly goose! That's a COG Derrick that has been taken over by Locust.

omg that is utterly disgusting, all the locust look exactly the same, they shouldnt flaunt there stuff about saying how many people they can put on screen if they all look the same :, man this is sad

Yeah I know its not the best photoshop I could do, but you dont gotta be mean. :P

Anyway heres a Fenix comparison I tried to do, its not the best but I have only a limited amount of content to work with.

That doesn't look like very high settings on the right... or the jpeg format busted the picture.

Thats a direct feed from the Xbox 360 version so there are not settings, and the picture is pretty clear, even the text is pretty crisp so its not distorted too much. I did say its not the best comparison due to lighting may not be the same and stuff like that, but grabbed the best photo I could for both games with the content available.

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#107 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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Ehhh, let the haters make their irrational claims about Gears 2 graphics. Remeber how they tried to undermine the 1st game almost 2 years ago? And just look at how well that worked out for them :lol::lol:
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#108 enygma500
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Gears PC vs Gears 2

justforlotr2004

3d chains doesn't make the graphics superior... ps2 could do that kinda crap. seriously you obviously dont understand what this guys trying to say.

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#109 Adrian_Cloud
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Ehhh, let the haters make their irrational claims about Gears 2 graphics. Remeber how they tried to undermine the 1st game almost 2 years ago? And just look at how well that worked out for them :lol::lol:AdobeArtist

Some people even claimed that Resistance was more impressive, because it had way better physics and people online:|......

Being completly serious, Gears 2 looks a lot like Gears 1, almost identical in some cases. I don't see why people think its such a bad thing. UT3 on PS3 doesn't look much better than Gears 1 and using the same engine Gears 2 is. What did people really expect?

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#110 justforlotr2004
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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

Gears PC vs Gears 2

enygma500

3d chains doesn't make the graphics superior... ps2 could do that kinda crap. seriously you obviously dont understand what this guys trying to say.

I understand exactly what hes saying, and what hes argueing about is art direction and same settings rather than actual visual upgrades. We already went over this in the thread, read up before posting again.

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#111 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

Gears PC vs Gears 2

Pro_wrestler

Wow, the fastest "/thread" I have ever seen :shock:

indeed.

who's up for some coffee?

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#112 Adrian_Cloud
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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

Gears PC vs Gears 2

enygma500

3d chains doesn't make the graphics superior... ps2 could do that kinda crap. seriously you obviously dont understand what this guys trying to say.

No actually it does, 2d models vs 3d models. Then once you take in the bump-mapping, self-shadowing, and detail on those chains that adds for a much more detailed and impressive character model. Showing a lot of improvements of the previous one. They didn't just change the model, they fully enhanced it.

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#113 crunchUK
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roll down the red carpet for the console graphics king!!!!

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#114 linkin_guy109
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this thread alone is going to be the basis for all of the ownage that will be claimed no matter what score geow2 gets ("lol i tolds youss sooooo", "lol @ people who said geow2 wouldnt be good)
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#115 thegoldenpoo
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[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

Gears PC vs Gears 2

Dreams-Visions

Wow, the fastest "/thread" I have ever seen :shock:

indeed.

who's up for some coffee?

oh me! gold blend or kenco? no decaf, thats for old people.

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#116 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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indeed.

who's up for some coffee?

Dreams-Visions

Would that be.... hot coffee? ;)

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#117 360-ps3-wii-pc
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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

Gears PC vs Gears 2

enygma500

3d chains doesn't make the graphics superior... ps2 could do that kinda crap. seriously you obviously dont understand what this guys trying to say.

did you say or mean the ps2 could do the barmack with 3-d chains? wow. just wow. lame.
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#118 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]Ehhh, let the haters make their irrational claims about Gears 2 graphics. Remeber how they tried to undermine the 1st game almost 2 years ago? And just look at how well that worked out for them :lol::lol:Adrian_Cloud

Some people even claimed that Resistance was more impressive, because it had way better physics and people online:|......

Being completly serious, Gears 2 looks a lot like Gears 1, almost identical in some cases. I don't see why people think its such a bad thing. UT3 on PS3 doesn't look much better than Gears 1 and using the same engine Gears 2 is. What did people really expect?

When people say it looks like the 1st, they're just going by quick surface impressions. This is a sequel, so it's taking the same art direction - what was branded as "Destroyed Beauty". Of course the colors are still bland. It's still taking place in the same war ravaged world, where everything is scorched and corroded from intense weapons scarring. What did they expect? We'd be seeing things on a tropical island now with rainbow patterned birds and singing mermaids? This war engulfed the entire planet in the story setting.

But now, with the improved lighting and character modelling, we're seeing this destroyed beauty in much more detail and clarity than ever before. And we still haven't seen the soft body or new water physics put into play yet. This is improved graphical rendering overlayed onto the art sty|e this franchise is established for.

Just what do people not get about this? :|

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#119 Hockey_Slayer
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I think people have lost the view on what gaming is actually about. Its not about how good the graphics are its about the gameplay. Gears Of War is a very fun game that looks awesome, I could careless if it looks any better then the first one as long as the gameplay is upgraded and some of the glitches are took out and a new story with new characters and levels and weapons I'll be fine. I could careless what you people think of teh graphics.
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#120 WillieBeamish
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Gears 1 is still the best looking game on any platform, with the exception of Crysis. Saying that the game is dated because a year after the first game came out, the 2nd one doesn't look like its running on a NASA supercomputer is just being trollish.

Gears scored high because it was a well-rounded game AND it looks spectacular. If Gears 2 looked like a Gears 1 expansion pack, I'd still be more than pleased because it was THAT GOOD.

Keep trying, silly troll.

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#121 Dreams-Visions
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Gears 1 is still the best looking game on any platform, with the exception of Crysis. Saying that the game is dated because a year after the first game came out, the 2nd one doesn't look like its running on a NASA supercomputer is just being trollish.

Gears scored high because it was a well-rounded game AND it looks spectacular. If Gears 2 looked like a Gears 1 expansion pack, I'd still be more than pleased because it was THAT GOOD.

Keep trying, silly troll.

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#122 justforlotr2004
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I think people have lost the view on what gaming is actually about. Its not about how good the graphics are its about the gameplay. Gears Of War is a very fun game that looks awesome, I could careless if it looks any better then the first one as long as the gameplay is upgraded and some of the glitches are took out and a new story with new characters and levels and weapons I'll be fine. I could careless what you people think of teh graphics.Hockey_Slayer

When it comes to comparing games before they are out its all about the visuals since thats the only thing we can truely comment on. I'm way more excited about the gameplay than I am the graphical upgrade.

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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="supras989"][QUOTE="slothboyadvance"][QUOTE="Relys"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="insanejedi"]You do realise in Gears 2 there will be about a million locusts vs Gears 1's like 5 on one screen...ComBaTsOuL

Now that I'd like to see a picture!

Heres level 1 on casual.

Why is there a naked emblum of a human women on an alien space craft?... Nevermind, I don't want to know.

You silly goose! That's a COG Derrick that has been taken over by Locust.

omg that is utterly disgusting, all the locust look exactly the same, they shouldnt flaunt there stuff about saying how many people they can put on screen if they all look the same :, man this is sad

Yeah I know its not the best photoshop I could do, but you dont gotta be mean. :P

Anyway heres a Fenix comparison I tried to do, its not the best but I have only a limited amount of content to work with.

That's a big improvement, the new fenix model is clearly more detailed and cleaner...

Why are people trying to put this game down? and to people that say the gameplay ain't evolving, what do you want them to do, change the game completely? the cover gameplay in the first one is what made the game for me....

People think that in sequels you need to have completely different gameplay. But the majority of us know that you don't change whats not broke. Especially for sequels.

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#124 Nolan16
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gears 2 looks sexy i see nothing wrong with it but it isnt a console graphics king that's for certain i still think killzone 2 has that wrapped.
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#125 johnnyblazed88
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the gameplay in gears is amzing, some of the smoothest controls ive ever played in a shooter

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#126 justforlotr2004
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gears 2 looks sexy i see nothing wrong with it but it isnt a console graphics king that's for certain i still think killzone 2 has that wrapped.Nolan16

Like I said I think its a toss up since they both have their good and bad sides. I really don't wanna turn this into a KZ2vsGears2 fight so I wont post comparisons for now. :P

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#127 Nolan16
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[QUOTE="Nolan16"]gears 2 looks sexy i see nothing wrong with it but it isnt a console graphics king that's for certain i still think killzone 2 has that wrapped.justforlotr2004

Like I said I think its a toss up since they both have their good and bad sides. I really don't wanna turn this into a KZ2vsGears2 fight so I wont post comparisons for now. :P

Last time you did do comparisons I was there with you and they both had there up and down Screenshots it's very weird how close they look together. When you look at them side by side some character models on gears looked better in some screens as some in Kill zone 2 looked better in some screens.

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#128 A-LEGEND
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Allow me to own every moron in this thread( thats the only name you ignorant fools deserve at this point).

1. to own the people who are saying "im sick of the UE3!!111"--->Its not the UE3. its the UE3.5 VAST improvements. http://www.gametrailers.com/player/30825.html

2. now to own those who think they look identical. They arent. not anywhere near. The scale of Gears two is EASILY 5 times the size with DOZENS and DOZENS of enemies on screen with FULLY destructabel environments. the UE3 CANNOT render that. see link above.

again. morons. learn before you post. this is why yo uare the scum of SW.

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#129 LordoftheVacas
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Most of the people saying that gears2 looks just like gears(it doesnt anyways) are cows.. so i ask them.. what if uncharted and the sequel of killzone 2 looks just like uncharted and killzone 2 just with minor improvements, would you bash the games because the still follow the same art style and using the same engine?
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#130 Nolan16
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Most of the people saying that gears2 looks just like gears(it doesnt anyways) are cows.. so i ask them.. what if uncharted and the sequel of killzone 2 looks just like uncharted and killzone 2 just with minor improvements, would you bash the games because the still follow the same art style and using the same engine?LordoftheVacas

yes i except Crysis graphics out of my consoles.

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#131 rgame1
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theres more to life than graphics.
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#132 LordoftheVacas
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[QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"]Most of the people saying that gears2 looks just like gears(it doesnt anyways) are cows.. so i ask them.. what if uncharted and the sequel of killzone 2 looks just like uncharted and killzone 2 just with minor improvements, would you bash the games because the still follow the same art style and using the same engine?Nolan16

yes i except Crysis graphics out of my consoles.



Well too bad ps3 wont never give you that kind of graphics :)
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#133 Nolan16
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[QUOTE="Nolan16"]

[QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"]Most of the people saying that gears2 looks just like gears(it doesnt anyways) are cows.. so i ask them.. what if uncharted and the sequel of killzone 2 looks just like uncharted and killzone 2 just with minor improvements, would you bash the games because the still follow the same art style and using the same engine?LordoftheVacas

yes i except Crysis graphics out of my consoles.



Well too bad ps3 wont never give you that kind of graphics :)

yes it well the cell can slay a nation in one thought.

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#135 butteater86
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Gears 1 is still the best looking game on any platform, with the exception of Crysis.

WillieBeamish

No, that would be Uncharted.

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#136 I_Helios_I
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[QUOTE="WillieBeamish"]

Gears 1 is still the best looking game on any platform, with the exception of Crysis.

butteater86

No, that would be Uncharted.

I agree

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#137 -Karmum-
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I will be honest, when I saw Gears 2 I was disappointed. But then again, can you honestly expect a huge graphic difference between the two? I suppose I took the term "nutso" to seriously, since everyone has their own opinion.

I don't think it looks amazing, but it looks great. Hell, I'm still amazed over the original one.

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#138 -GhostMLD-
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Its definately "hotter" than Resistence 2

let the sales and the Live numbers do the talking

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#139 Ninja-Hippo
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If Gears looks dated, show me these amazing games which make it look so, by all means. :|
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#140 thrones
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Its definately "hotter" than Resistence 2

let the sales and the Live numbers do the talking

-GhostMLD-

Of course Gears 2 is going to outsell Resistance 2, install base much? :|

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#141 thrones
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If Gears looks dated, show me these amazing games which make it look so, by all means. :|Ninja-Hippo

*scratch*

Err....

...?

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#142 -GhostMLD-
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[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

Its definately "hotter" than Resistence 2

let the sales and the Live numbers do the talking

thrones

Of course Gears 2 is going to outsell Resistance 2, install base much? :|

thats just an excuse to justify top PS3 games failing against big 360 titles

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#143 thrones
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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

Its definately "hotter" than Resistence 2

let the sales and the Live numbers do the talking

-GhostMLD-

Of course Gears 2 is going to outsell Resistance 2, install base much? :|

thats just an excuse to justify top PS3 games failing against big 360 titles

I honestly doubt it will 'fail' it will just not sell as good.

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#144 Ninja-Hippo
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I will be honest, when I saw Gears 2 I was disappointed. But then again, can you honestly expect a huge graphic difference between the two? I suppose I took the term "nutso" to seriously, since everyone has their own opinion.

I don't think it looks amazing, but it looks great. Hell, I'm still amazed over the original one.

-Karmum-

Plus, it's been designed and developed in less than two years. It'd be silly to expect a complete overhaul.

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#145 -GhostMLD-
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[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"][QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

Its definately "hotter" than Resistence 2

let the sales and the Live numbers do the talking

thrones

Of course Gears 2 is going to outsell Resistance 2, install base much? :|

thats just an excuse to justify top PS3 games failing against big 360 titles

I honestly doubt it will 'fail' it will just not sell as good.

nono i meant fail in comparison. im sure resistence will make a profit and such.

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#146 Blackbond
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I am really not satisfied with how gears 2 looks.I have gears on the PC and i run it maxed out on an HD resolution and it looks great. I just wanted to get that out of the way first, gears still looks great and always will, all i'm saying is that the graphics are no longer a high point. Before i saw the gameplay footage, i saw the upgrades to the UE3 engine and i thought they would serve well in making it look up to date. Like that new shading technique looked like the improvement it needed. I wasn't very happy when i saw that it either had no effect or wasn't actually implemented in the new game play footage. I noticed that the engine still renders the transitions from dark areas lighter areas terribly. When i saw the big truck leave the shadow of the mountain, the whole model suddenly became lighter and flushed looking. Also on the list is that while they have a lot of enemies on screen at once, this is purely for cinematic purposes, as you can't harm any of them. There still seemed to be the small amount of enemies to interact with, not that that's a bad thing. The physics and destructible environments look promising, but i really hope that the gameplay footage was running on an older build of the engine.velocity99

Man sometimes its hard to hold back :lol:

But the game is only 65% done or whatever. I'm completely fine with it but who knows maybe it will improve to your likings.

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#147 karram
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[QUOTE="velocity99"] I am really not satisfied with how gears 2 looks.I have gears on the PC and i run it maxed out on an HD resolution and it looks great. I just wanted to get that out of the way first, gears still looks great and always will, all i'm saying is that the graphics are no longer a high point. Before i saw the gameplay footage, i saw the upgrades to the UE3 engine and i thought they would serve well in making it look up to date. Like that new shading technique looked like the improvement it needed. I wasn't very happy when i saw that it either had no effect or wasn't actually implemented in the new game play footage. I noticed that the engine still renders the transitions from dark areas lighter areas terribly. When i saw the big truck leave the shadow of the mountain, the whole model suddenly became lighter and flushed looking. Also on the list is that while they have a lot of enemies on screen at once, this is purely for cinematic purposes, as you can't harm any of them. There still seemed to be the small amount of enemies to interact with, not that that's a bad thing. The physics and destructible environments look promising, but i really hope that the gameplay footage was running on an older build of the engine.Blackbond

Man sometimes its hard to hold back :lol:

But the game is only 65% done or whatever. I'm completely fine with it but who knows maybe it will improve to your likings.

LMAO
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#148 shoeman12
Member since 2005 • 8744 Posts
gears 2 is looking great and better than gears 1.
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#149 DuDisNow
Member since 2007 • 2741 Posts
If GeOW2 looks dated...then almost every other game this year looks like crap.
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#150 DuDisNow
Member since 2007 • 2741 Posts

Gears PC vs Gears 2

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I honestly didn't notice the chains in GeOW, but for GeOW2, I can see them.