Gen is almost over and Vanquish is still the best TPS

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#51 Vaasman
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

Sorry but Vanquish is only good in it's absolute core gameplay. It's short as hell, repetitive, has lame weapons, has no multiplayer, and features lousy music, art, and story elements, even by the low standards of the TPS genre.

Gears 3 creams it in almost every way.

cain006

Except gameplay which is kinda by far the most important thing in a video game.

lol no. Vanquish is only a little bit better in it's movement mechanics, and even that is just a matter of preference since both games are a very different approach to TPS. What isn't a matter of preference, is everything around that. Gears 3 has more and better weapons, more and better enemy types, more and better gameplay modes, and competitive and co-op multiplayer. It's by far the better package, even on the gameplay front.

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vanquish was good, but max payne is really great outside of the horrible cutscene interferences

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#53 timbers_WSU
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Vanquish was a piece of shit. There is a reason it ended up in bargain bins in less than a month. That is what it deserved. A $20 turd ball.

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#54 DrRockso87
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Truthfully, I only played the demo for Vanquish a few years ago and hated it. PlayStation Plus offered it for free though so I'm considering giving it another try.

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#55 LustForSoul
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It's a draw between ME2/3 and Vanquish.
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#56 speedfreak48t5p
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No, that honor goes to Max Payne 3.

SNIPER4321
no. thats max payne 1 still

Good. I just bought it off steam for $5. Soon to purchase Half-Life 2 and Max Payne 2.
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#57 Animal-Mother
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:lol: The poor mans champ loses again :lol:

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#58 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Never played it but Max Payne 3 had incredible shooting. It felt so damn good

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#60 dovberg
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I think I'd say Max Payne 3 has it beat but it is a good contender along with the gears series.

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#61 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

No, that honor goes to Max Payne 3.

Cheleman

I didnt really like Max Payne 3 that much. I dunno what it was. Its like everything was technically fine, the movement was smooth, the shooting felt great, but it just lacked...something. It didnt have the same charm of the older games imo, and I was sort of sad that we didnt have a Mona Sax counterpart this time around. I liked Max's interactions with Mona, the woman he loves but at the same time isnt sure he can completely trust. And I loved the dynamic of him loving 2 women at once (his dead wife and Mona).

Also, I felt the color it was ok, cause u know, you're in brazil, but i missed the darker gloomy nature of the past games, and I wasnt a fan of the cinematography, with all the blurred scanlines and color diffusion. I understand why it was there and it made complete sense to add it, but I just felt it was a bit overbearing. Last but not least, the story was boring and the villains even more so. I think the reason I didnt click with this one was because the story wasnt about Max. It was some one else story, and Max just happened to be a part of it. In the other games, it all revolved around Max Payne and his mythos. This game it was your typical conspiracy theory that just happened to star Max Payne. It could have been any other person.

Oh yeah, it needed more comic book panels and less animated cutscenes :P

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#62 Douevenlift_bro
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YES. Agreed

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#63 Jshoelace
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Defo Vanquish! Max Payne 3 was ok but for me Vanquish was more fun and great for speed runs and overall action. 

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#64 coasterguy65
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I liked Vanquish, but Gears, Uncharted 2, and Mass Effect 2 are all better. Just off the top of my head.

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#65 Bread_or_Decide
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It's one of the most fun I've played for a long, long time. However "best" might be a bit too much. For all the things the gameplay did right, there things were the game just didn't live up in any way or shape.

Desmonic
The enemies were very hard to make out at times. Had a blast playing the game. Definitely took the piss out of gears boring trudge from cover to cover. Vanquish was all like..swwoooshhhh...swooooosshhh....kaplow.
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#66 Renegade_Fury
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Yup, easily.

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#67 Jack-Burton
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I got it on Ps3 and 360 still not finished it yet.
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#68 mems_1224
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No, that honor goes to Max Payne 3.

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#69 Mrmedia01
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Uncharted 2 & 3 should get that honor along with Gears Of War 3.

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#70 heeweesRus
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[QUOTE="akira2465"]

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I am drowning in a sea of sh*tty opinions and bad taste. Jesus help me.

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Jesus is too busy playing Last of Us

U mean The Eight of Us?

Nah, he means the 95 of Us
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#71 heeweesRus
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No, that honor goes to Max Payne 3.

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#72 sukraj
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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

No, that honor goes to Max Payne 3.

SNIPER4321

no. thats max payne 1 still

no just no.

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#73 MonsieurX
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Oh look,this thread again?
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#74 Ballroompirate
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No, that honor goes to Max Payne 3.

Rocker6

This

and I was getting use to not seeing stupid threads made by mastershake....sigh.

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#75 Rocker6
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[QUOTE="Cheleman"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

No, that honor goes to Max Payne 3.

II_Seraphim_II

I didnt really like Max Payne 3 that much. I dunno what it was. Its like everything was technically fine, the movement was smooth, the shooting felt great, but it just lacked...something. It didnt have the same charm of the older games imo, and I was sort of sad that we didnt have a Mona Sax counterpart this time around. I liked Max's interactions with Mona, the woman he loves but at the same time isnt sure he can completely trust. And I loved the dynamic of him loving 2 women at once (his dead wife and Mona).

Also, I felt the color it was ok, cause u know, you're in brazil, but i missed the darker gloomy nature of the past games, and I wasnt a fan of the cinematography, with all the blurred scanlines and color diffusion. I understand why it was there and it made complete sense to add it, but I just felt it was a bit overbearing. Last but not least, the story was boring and the villains even more so. I think the reason I didnt click with this one was because the story wasnt about Max. It was some one else story, and Max just happened to be a part of it. In the other games, it all revolved around Max Payne and his mythos. This game it was your typical conspiracy theory that just happened to star Max Payne. It could have been any other person.

Oh yeah, it needed more comic book panels and less animated cutscenes :P

I know what you're saying, the game definitely pulled off some bold changes, some worked, some didn't, and ultimately, not all the fans will be happy. I also agree how the story pales in comparison with other Max Payne games, though I do think there was enough of the original dark atmosphere left, plenty of dark levels, including those two excellent New York missions.

However, the biggest reason why I love MP3 so much and consider it the best TPS this gen is because of the combat. The gunplay is almost perfect, it has everything, the sense of weight, gore, awesome body physics, tight controls, good use of slow motion, etc. Simply no TPS managed to match it (Gears came close, though), and I'm also very happy R* is including MP3 combat system into GTA V. That'll be a blast!

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#76 beganoo
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I'm gonna go with tlou even tho there was not that much shooting becuase the overall gameplay was solid as ****

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#77 Jack-Burton
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Shadows of the Damned is better.
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#78 Doom_HellKnight
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Absolutely no.
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#79 FastEddie2121
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Max Payne is great, but gameplay wise it doesn't hold a candle to Vanquish.
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#80 ShaineTheNerd
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'Gen is almost over and Gears of War 3 is still the best TPS'

PAL360
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#81 nethernova
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I guess I should finally play it. Bought it like a year ago and played it for like 10 minutes. Too many games, not enough time. And I really start to hate Max Payne 3. I'm at a point where I start to think that my checkpoint is broken or something. End of chapter 12(?) when the building explodes. I just can't do it. And it's not like I'm taking my sweet time.
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#82 Granny_Spanked
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Max Payne 3, Uncharted, Gears of War, Mass Effect, Shadows of the Damned, Red Dead Redemption, etc... Vanquish isn't even close.
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#83 LazySloth718
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Best TPS in my opinion was Gears series and Mass Effect series.

Vanquish wasn't that good, it played too much like an arcade game, I didn't like the super-quick pace and Japanese style.

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#84 cainetao11
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'Gen is almost over and Gears of War 3 is still the best TPS'

See? I have opinions too :)

PAL360
Yeah, I enjoyed vanquish, I still have it on my ps3 hdd. But Gears is my pick from this gen TPS. Any of the gears, Imo.
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#86 LazySloth718
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

'Gen is almost over and Gears of War 3 is still the best TPS'

See? I have opinions too :)

cainetao11

Yeah, I enjoyed vanquish, I still have it on my ps3 hdd. But Gears is my pick from this gen TPS. Any of the gears, Imo.

Yep

Even after all these years, Gears is still the best reason to own a 360.

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#87 silversix_
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TLOU and Max Pain 3 MUCH better
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#88 SentientMind
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No, that honor goes to Max Payne 3.

Rocker6

This. 

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#89 happyduds77
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No, that honor goes to Max Payne 3.

Rocker6
Max Payne 3 was so interrupted with cutscene up on cutscenes, how can it be the best TPS game?
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#90 dream431ca
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What's Vanquish?

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#91 timbers_WSU
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What's Vanquish?

dream431ca

It is a pile of shit. Don't worry about it. It was a sales flop that was in the bargain bin a few weeks after release. People only pretend to like it because it is a Platinum Games title. They think it makes them look cool in a game forum to hype some niche Japanese turd. Godhand all over again.

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#92 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

No, that honor goes to Max Payne 3.

happyduds77
Max Payne 3 was so interrupted with cutscene up on cutscenes, how can it be the best TPS game?

Great job on completely ignoring the advantages of the game.
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#93 dream431ca
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[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

What's Vanquish?

timbers_WSU

It is a pile of shit. Don't worry about it. It was a sales flop that was in the bargain bin a few weeks after release. People only pretend to like it because it is a Platinum Games title. They think it makes them look cool in a game forum to hype some niche Japanese turd. Godhand all over again.

What? You make no sense. Are you for real?

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#94 Renegade_Fury
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[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

What's Vanquish?

timbers_WSU

It is a pile of shit. Don't worry about it. It was a sales flop that was in the bargain bin a few weeks after release. People only pretend to like it because it is a Platinum Games title. They think it makes them look cool in a game forum to hype some niche Japn

Or you know, we really like fast and adrenaline pumping gameplay. Going back to something like Gears feels slow as molasses.

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#95 cainetao11
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[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

What's Vanquish?

timbers_WSU

It is a pile of shit. Don't worry about it. It was a sales flop that was in the bargain bin a few weeks after release. People only pretend to like it because it is a Platinum Games title. They think it makes them look cool in a game forum to hype some niche Japanese turd. Godhand all over again.

And then folks, there is the other extreme. Its nowhere near a bad game, Imo. An excellent shooter although characters are typical Japanese non sense. Gears characters weren't hamlet, but almost next to vanquish dialogue.
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#97 Ballroompirate
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[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

What's Vanquish?

cainetao11

It is a pile of shit. Don't worry about it. It was a sales flop that was in the bargain bin a few weeks after release. People only pretend to like it because it is a Platinum Games title. They think it makes them look cool in a game forum to hype some niche Japanese turd. Godhand all over again.

And then folks, there is the other extreme. Its nowhere near a bad game, Imo. An excellent shooter although characters are typical Japanese non sense. Gears characters weren't hamlet, but almost next to vanquish dialogue.

Vanquish was full of stereotypical dialogue, it was hard to ignore to the point I had to shut the game off.

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#98 Master_ShakeXXX
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[QUOTE="cain006"]

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

Sorry but Vanquish is only good in it's absolute core gameplay. It's short as hell, repetitive, has lame weapons, has no multiplayer, and features lousy music, art, and story elements, even by the low standards of the TPS genre.

Gears 3 creams it in almost every way.

Vaasman

Except gameplay which is kinda by far the most important thing in a video game.

lol no. Vanquish is only a little bit better in it's movement mechanics, and even that is just a matter of preference since both games are a very different approach to TPS. What isn't a matter of preference, is everything around that. Gears 3 has more and better weapons, more and better enemy types, more and better gameplay modes, and competitive and co-op multiplayer. It's by far the better package, even on the gameplay front.

Totally disagree with that. The disc launcher and homing laser rifle thingy and the gun that shoots energy through walls thing are way more original and fun to use than any weapon in Gears. And the enemies in Vanquish = way crazier and far more agressive. Did you even play it on the higher difficulties?

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#99 happyduds77
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[QUOTE="happyduds77"][QUOTE="Rocker6"]

No, that honor goes to Max Payne 3.

faizan_faizan
Max Payne 3 was so interrupted with cutscene up on cutscenes, how can it be the best TPS game?

Great job on completely ignoring the advantages of the game.

Ok, the shooting mechanics are stellar and immensely satisfying, I would go as far as to say it has the best shooting mechanics ever. But the cutscenes totally ruined the fun. The control is taken away from the player way too often, and overall there is just not enough interaction, the game it self does everything via cutscene, and that is not fun at all.
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#100 omho88
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it's a very fun game if you get into it ... but it's super hard on higher difficulties, not worth the trouble/