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The only respect I'm willing to afford him is that he was willing to reciprocate to Ted Price.
This Mirrors Edge criticism is totally ridiculous. He's said dumb stuff in the past, but I'm willing to excuse it and take it totally in good fun. I can be a jerk too.
Lol yeah, he's one of my favorite developers but come on the man loves it[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="Giancar"]kojima a troll :|Giancar
loves to do exactly what?
Trolling[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="Toriko42"]Lol yeah, he's one of my favorite developers but come on the man loves it
Toriko42
loves to do exactly what?
Trollingseems like you and me have a very different concept of "trolling"
aside from cliffy being on par with the father of modern gaming, i agree with your post.darkspineslayerNo no no, I said that his importance to the Xbox 360 is like Miyamoto's importance to the Wii. Miyamoto is God, even Cliff knows that. He says he is his biggest influence.
Dear TC, you are mxing Cliffy B and his company up. Cliffy didn't make any IP. He and his company did. I am confident that Cliffy was not a total mastermind. organic_machineCliffy is the lead designer, by your logic that means Kojima didn't make MGS4, his company did.
[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]aside from cliffy being on par with the father of modern gaming, i agree with your post.Toriko42No no no, I said that his importance to the Xbox 360 is like Miyamoto's importance to the Wii. Miyamoto is God, even Cliff knows that. He says he is his biggest influence.
[QUOTE="organic_machine"]Dear TC, you are mxing Cliffy B and his company up. Cliffy didn't make any IP. He and his company did. I am confident that Cliffy was not a total mastermind. Toriko42Cliffy is the lead designer, by your logic that means Kojima didn't make MGS4, his company did.
That is what I am saying.
"Best" or "most popular" new IP? The only reason Cliffy is acting this way is because his game did well and he let it go to his head.foxhound_foxI'd be proud if I made a AAA game that made a lot of people happy and competed with the biggest FPS of all time on XBL (Halo 3)
I'd be proud if I made a AAA game that made a lot of people happy and competed with the biggest FPS of all time on XBL (Halo 3)
I really would be...Toriko42
I've seen time and time again where people in this forum have made dumber comments than anything Cliffy B. has ever said. And they were serious about it. That being said I think cliffy B. needs to take soem classes in public speaking. Sometimes he just says things off the top of his head about his personal opinion about the games he likes and dislikes and people who hear it take it like it's fact when it's actually one mans opinion. So he likes gun, ;et him. I've also seen posts made about him dissing his comments on some video and after watching the video myself I wonder WTF the poster was talking about. It seems that most posters take things far out of proportion concerning him and oftentimes even insinuate their own misunderstandings on what he said. You know you're a good up and coming developer when people start taking your opinion as fact and begin fans of other systems begin dissing you because of your opinion. It's all blown out of proportion but yes, I do agree he needs to learn a bit more about public speaking.
He isn't proud... he's nuts. He ragged on Mirror's Edge because there was "too much parkour" even though the game is designed to be a parkour simulator.
He let all this go to his head... now he thinks he's the best there is and nothing can compare to his awesomeness. He's like his own mindless fanboy.foxhound_fox
[QUOTE="t3hTwinky"]When has he really acted like a big douchebagI'll get off Cliff Bleszinski's back once Cliff Bleszinski drops this unwarranted self-importance garbage and stops acting like a douchebag.
It sounds like a fair trade to me.
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Almost everything he says! Case in point. He comes out and says "PC gaming is dead." Then when he gets ripped a new one he comes out and says that "PC gaming is 'abso-friggin-lutely' back." He spouts off his opinion and makes himself look like a fool time and time again.Â
[QUOTE="phoonbaba098"]Not the best pic to use when calling the lead designer for Epic a 15 year old when the pic you use showing Epic winning studio of the year. Not questioning the ability of Cliffy B. and his studio to win awards or make good games. The arguement still stands, he's seeking attention. The boys are giving it, and Cliffy B. has even publicised that.Looks like a 15 year old boy. Acts like a 15 year old boy. Wants to sleep with 15 year old boys.
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Don't get me wrong, Cliffy B is a talented developer worthy of praise for his games, but for his personality? Not a chance. He asks a game that is more creative, unique, and artistically impressive then any game he will ever make to have more guns? That would completely dilute the experience of Mirror's Edge, which is all about NOT KILLING PEOPLE. I swear, some people STILL think Mirror's Edge is primarily a first-person shooter.
And in general, he's an ass. Still, I respect him more than fanboys because unlike most trolling fanboys, Cliff is a troll that can make millions off of a decent video game series.
Kojima a troll? :shock:
Sorry I had to stop reading your post right there TC. Kojima is one of the most modest devs in the industry. He always talks down on his own creations while praising others. Even Cliffy was showing much respect for Kojima up until MGS4 released and poor Cliffy got a lil jealous.
If Kojima is a troll then Cliffy is King of the super trolls. The only dev I would compare Cliffy to is Itagaki. At least Itagaki had the best action title of all time under his belt at one point so that was understandable, but still...these devs need to make good games and mind their own.
[QUOTE="Toriko42"]I'd be proud if I made a AAA game that made a lot of people happy and competed with the biggest FPS of all time on XBL (Halo 3)
I really would be...foxhound_fox
You're sensationalizing what he said.
Cliffy said that he wanted to see more of the combat, because he thought it was important, mentioning that "even Mario had goombas". From what I've heard, there are actually parts of the game where you're required to eliminate groups of guards (not necessarily with guns, but...). This aspect was not one that the public had seen much of to this point. It makes sense that they'd primarily exhibit the first-person platforming (that's the game's central conceit), but people are drawing what they want to see from Cliffy's comments, instead of actually reading what he said. This sort of thing happens all the time to any remotely outspoken developer. Kojima is a great example of this.Â
(And if you don't think Kojima is a troll, consider that Raiden in MGS2 is meant to represent the player, and think about what his opinion of you is).Â
CliffyB has always been a brash, somewhat flamboyant developer, and the reasons behind that run much deeper than 'success going to his head' or anything like that (I mean, he made his name with Jazz Jackrabbit). But he's clearly a talent in the industry, and he's no small part of why Epic is one of the most successful independent developers out there.Â
Leave Cliffy alone!! :cry:
But seriously, Britney Spears is really good at music and doesn't afraid of anything.
He makes superb games the only problem is that he talks before he thinks. Almost everything he says is blown up so I don't think he really mean too attack stuff all the time it's just his way of talking. He is more open than a lot of other devs and that sadly hurts him, he tries to stay a person and an individual instead of a PR machine like most developers.
Cliff is pretty cool. Most of the press just paintbrush him as a giant douche though. This is how Cliff really is.
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I think the reason there is so much hate is becase is not what you think of when you think "Game Developer". I don't know if it's becase he could get laid if he went to a club and the haters can't or if because he's not fat balding or becauses he's not a 40 somthing Japanese develper that Credits himself at the end of the game as "Voice of GOD".
But, I could care less because as long as he makes good games he could wear a dress do some cock with Lohan and kill a kitten and I wouldn't care as long as Gears 3 is good.
:P
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