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#51 noswear
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No thanks. He's an annoying, whiney manchild, who needs to stay the hell away from my hobbies.
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#52 Toriko42
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Cliff is pretty cool. Most of the press just paintbrush him as a giant douche though. This is how Cliff really is.

 

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Yeah he's just honest and he's not a big business man he's just a regular guy. He's not a trained guy from MS responsible for PR and saying the perfect thing everytime. This video shows the type of person he is. Normal.
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#53 freek666
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I like CliffyB, he's not afraid to rock the boat with comments and I like that rather than playing it safe and not getting on anyones bad side. If he wants to say something sucks I believe he is entitled to it. People here say his games suck all the time, but we dont really see him on here whining about people saying that. If anything, he is great entertainment and should be allowed to say those things for our own personal amusement.
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#54 0rin
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This thread wreaks of cheetos, mountain dew, and 2 month old underwear.

I don't personally like Cliff's "persona". he comes off as a semi-D-bag to me. I respect him and the Epic team for what they've done, but I don't really respect him for who he is.

And honestly, I don't respect him as much as I do Bungie, Insomniac, Kojima Productions, and even (the dwindling respect for) Square. Then theres the smaller guys, like Team ICO, Guerrilla Games (well, they used to be small), David Jaffe (whom on a personal level I think is much "cooler" than Cliff) and many more (no it's not limited to PS3 devs, its just thats all I could think of off the top of my head)

Cliffs respect to me has nothing to do with his clear 360 favoritism. It has everything to do with his big mouth, and highly megalomanic "public" life****(he could be totaly different in person)

Again, I respect him as a developer, just as I respect all developers, particularly those who develop successful games. But to praise him as some kind of higher being, or as though he's better than any of us is just silly. at least thats what I get from this love fest.
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#55 killerfist
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This thread reaks of cheetos, mountain dew, and 2 month old underwear.

I don't personally like Cliff's "persona". he comes off as a semi-D-bag to me. I respect him and the Epic team for what they've done, but I don't really respect him for who he is.
0rin

I lol'd

But I agree. I don't care about his personality though. I respect him for making great games. That's his job after all.

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#56 mgs_freak91
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ok...so whos cliffy B? and wat game did he help make? from all the posts im hatin the guy - well not hating but he seems annoying, like when one guy gave examples and stuff.

and how is kojima a troll?didnt he say that he was dissapointed with MGS4 cause it wasnt what he 100% wanted?

this cliffy guy seems like a **** - just really annoying. i dont see why ppl have to be in love with game makers now - game maker fanboys, console fanboys, game fanboys - so many.

 

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#57 GaMeR_Willz
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Yeah, I like him. I respect him because of his games. The quality of his games. Is.... just awesome!
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#58 Blue-Sky
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Cliff responses are no different from what you hear from other developers, People are really just blowing his statements out of proportion as if hes someone special.

I take what developers say with as much credibility as what a fanboy says on SW. Because in the end, they are just regular @$$ people with a job in the industry.  

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#59 GranReyUno
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This thread wreaks of cheetos, mountain dew, and 2 month old underwear.

I don't personally like Cliff's "persona". he comes off as a semi-D-bag to me. I respect him and the Epic team for what they've done, but I don't really respect him for who he is.0rin

That line is nothing but the truth. CliffyB is talented! There is no doubt about it. He added an extra standard to TPS which I give him credit for and I accept him as a great developer just as much as he is an ahole.

CliffyB. Quotes:

We make games about guns because making games about talking is hard and not interesting yet. The basis of interaction is, 'what is the easiest way I can touch this environment?' And when you're using your gun, you're touching everything.

"I don't really work on PS3 - I HATE the f*cking controller! I love the Blu-ray player, I think there are some great games for PS3; I think Metal Gear's great, Heavenly Sword was great, but right now I'll always work on Xbox with Gears. I feel very comfortable with the 360. I like the controller!"

"I hope if there's a new Xbox that there'll be fewer buttons on the controller,"

My Mii should have bigger biceps and a chiseled jaw

The sad thing is that there is so much more. I don't hate the guy, he is great at what he do. Making games and being a jacka$$.

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#60 Vaasman
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IMO I think he has every right to be an arrogant prick just as long as the Gears franchise stays amazing. I'm surprised more developers aren't dicks after they create mega franchises.
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#61 NielsNL
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I really think Cliffy cares what's being said about him on this forum.

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#62 jtickner
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Cliff Bleszinski is one of the biggest talents in the North American video game industry. He has made the best new IP of the generation, thats a rare thing to see in this generation which seems to be sequel after sequel. He's made two games in two years that have gotten universal AAA ratings and he is a huge talent. He has something many people don't have, he knows what people want in their games and he never lies about his games unlike that Molynator.

What is with all the Dude Huge hate though, why do Cows and Sheep like to pick on him for being outspoken? Kojima is an amazing video game maker but he's also one of the biggest trolls of all time (I love him for that though). There are way more people to pick on, Cliffy B hasn't done anything but say his opinions why do you care. They make sense most of the time anyways. He asks questions normal people have, he's not an elitest gamer, he's a regular guy who likes his chainsaws, guns, and gore. What's wrong with that, as long as he makes the games.

Get off his back, he's done nothing wrong. He's a great developer and he's more successful then most will ever become in the gaming industry. Cliff to the 360 is like what Kojima is to the PS3 or Miyamoto is to the Wii. As far as this generation goes he runs the system. It's unnecessary to just flame Cliff and make a 20 page thread when he says something harmless like, "Mirrors Edge looks awesome but where is the gun play? I'd like to see more of it".

I'll admit, I'm a Gears of War fanboy but seriously give credit where it's due.Toriko42

Cliff Bleszinski is an overzealous tosser who created a mediocre, at best, third person shooter.

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#63 GinoNYC
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I'm a lem and I can't stand him. He's annoying and should shut up already.
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#64 exiledsnake
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first of all, kojima isn't a troll and he's quite modest with his work. Its his fans that blow things out of proportion. And Cliffy B is just a dev who is just trying to push the industry forward with his outspoken-ness. Most of his comments are overblown by the media anyways. His comments on mirror's edge should just be taken as constructive criticism. If you see him on GT's bonus round you'll know that he just wants what's best for the games industry.
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#65 superjim42
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you should get off his payroll
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#66 ithilgore2006
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Funny how you say he's to be commended for having a new IP when this generation is nothing but "sequel afer sequel", and yet he's jsut had a sequel to that new IP released a scant two years after the first one.
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#67 killerfist
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Cliff Bleszinski is an overzealous tosser who created a mediocre, at best, third person shooter.

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tell that to the millions that bought Gears:roll:
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#68 Snowboarder99
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He makes awesome games and he seems like a fun guy to be around even though he may be a tad bigheaded.  I have a friend like that but he's still a cool guy to hang out with.  So Cliffy B, keep voicing your opinions, the people telling you not to are probably the awkward kids in school who try not to talk to anyone because they don't know how.  They're afraid to let their opinions known.
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#69 Pinkyimp
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Meh..i dont hate him as a person..hes a cool guy who clearly knows what he's doing in this industry..and has made a huge impact.

But these past few days have been a "Stupid comment" feild day...left and right just stupid BS flying all over the place..its hard not to take notice and not call something stupid when it clearly is.

I respect you cliffy, and i like your games..but for once..just shut up.

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#70 organic_machine
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One of the reasons I don't like him, and this reason is quite irrational, is that he reminds me of that surfer kid from Apocolypse Now that was stoned all the time.
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#71 MadExponent
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Cliff Bleszinski is one of the biggest talents in the North American video game industry. He has made the best new IP of the generation, thats a rare thing to see in this generation which seems to be sequel after sequel. He's made two games in two years that have gotten universal AAA ratings and he is a huge talent. He has something many people don't have, he knows what people want in their games and he never lies about his games unlike that Molynator.

What is with all the Dude Huge hate though, why do Cows and Sheep like to pick on him for being outspoken? Kojima is an amazing video game maker but he's also one of the biggest trolls of all time (I love him for that though). There are way more people to pick on, Cliffy B hasn't done anything but say his opinions why do you care. They make sense most of the time anyways. He asks questions normal people have, he's not an elitest gamer, he's a regular guy who likes his chainsaws, guns, and gore. What's wrong with that, as long as he makes the games.

Get off his back, he's done nothing wrong. He's a great developer and he's more successful then most will ever become in the gaming industry. Cliff to the 360 is like what Kojima is to the PS3 or Miyamoto is to the Wii. As far as this generation goes he runs the system. It's unnecessary to just flame Cliff and make a 20 page thread when he says something harmless like, "Mirrors Edge looks awesome but where is the gun play? I'd like to see more of it".

I'll admit, I'm a Gears of War fanboy but seriously give credit where it's due.Toriko42

CliffyB is a joke.  Just look how he treats PC gamers.  PC gamers put him where he is.  Is got blinded by greed and is a complete douchebag.

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#72 -Mad_Rhetoric-
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hes a cool guy but can really stupid comments sometimes

 

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#73 butteman12
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yeah i dont really understand all the hate for Cliff. He seems like a really cool/badass guy :). Plus, he makes amazing games!
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#74 dantesergei
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Hey cliffy if your reading this forums then you should know that your a ****ing ****ole LMAO :lol:.
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#75 munu9
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Leave cliffy B ALOOOONE!!!
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#76 Ninja-Hippo
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The only respect I'm willing to afford him is that he was willing to reciprocate to Ted Price.

This Mirrors Edge criticism is totally ridiculous. He's said dumb stuff in the past, but I'm willing to excuse it and take it totally in good fun. I can be a jerk too.

BobHipJames

Ridiculous? Cliff said he wasnt sure about the gunplay and the combat... and now look at the gamespot review. Nobody will admit they were wrong to flame away at him though.

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#77 JediRiff
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Well, one thing is for sure.... he delivered with Gears and Gears 2.
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#78 Ninja-Hippo
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Cliff Bleszinski is an overzealous tosser who created a mediocre, at best, third person shooter.

jtickner

There is a common mistake on the internet, particularly on these forums, that "my opinion is my opnion so it cant be wrong." Thus, people believe they have the right and ability to factually declare that something sucks, is garbage, mediocre or whatever they feel regardless of common logic displayed through game of the year awards, review scores, fan acclaim and sales.

Gears of War is clearly not a "mediocre at best" game, regardless of how much you wish it was.

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#79 JediRiff
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"]Cliff Bleszinski is one of the biggest talents in the North American video game industry. He has made the best new IP of the generation, thats a rare thing to see in this generation which seems to be sequel after sequel. He's made two games in two years that have gotten universal AAA ratings and he is a huge talent. He has something many people don't have, he knows what people want in their games and he never lies about his games unlike that Molynator.

What is with all the Dude Huge hate though, why do Cows and Sheep like to pick on him for being outspoken? Kojima is an amazing video game maker but he's also one of the biggest trolls of all time (I love him for that though). There are way more people to pick on, Cliffy B hasn't done anything but say his opinions why do you care. They make sense most of the time anyways. He asks questions normal people have, he's not an elitest gamer, he's a regular guy who likes his chainsaws, guns, and gore. What's wrong with that, as long as he makes the games.

Get off his back, he's done nothing wrong. He's a great developer and he's more successful then most will ever become in the gaming industry. Cliff to the 360 is like what Kojima is to the PS3 or Miyamoto is to the Wii. As far as this generation goes he runs the system. It's unnecessary to just flame Cliff and make a 20 page thread when he says something harmless like, "Mirrors Edge looks awesome but where is the gun play? I'd like to see more of it".

I'll admit, I'm a Gears of War fanboy but seriously give credit where it's due.jtickner

Cliff Bleszinski is an overzealous tosser who created a mediocre, at best, third person shooter.

Lol, the sheer amount of copies Gears 2 sold on day one makes your comment fail. Now, if you put "in my opinion", instead of trying to act like you are speaking for everyone, then at least you wouldnt look jealous. 8)

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#80 blackdreamhunk
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[QUOTE="jtickner"]

Cliff Bleszinski is an overzealous tosser who created a mediocre, at best, third person shooter.

Ninja-Hippo

There is a common mistake on the internet, particularly on these forums, that "my opinion is my opnion so it cant be wrong." Thus, people believe they have the right and ability to factually declare that something sucks, is garbage, mediocre or whatever they feel regardless of common logic displayed through game of the year awards, review scores, fan acclaim and sales.

Gears of War is clearly not a "mediocre at best" game, regardless of how much you wish it was.

agin that is your opinion people have different tastes!
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#81 JediRiff
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="jtickner"]

Cliff Bleszinski is an overzealous tosser who created a mediocre, at best, third person shooter.

blackdreamhunk

There is a common mistake on the internet, particularly on these forums, that "my opinion is my opnion so it cant be wrong." Thus, people believe they have the right and ability to factually declare that something sucks, is garbage, mediocre or whatever they feel regardless of common logic displayed through game of the year awards, review scores, fan acclaim and sales.

Gears of War is clearly not a "mediocre at best" game, regardless of how much you wish it was.

agin that is your opinion people have different tastes!

Maybe so, but the person originally quoted didnt state it was his opinion, he tossed it out like it was a fact. Which obviously, its not. If you want to treat it as fact, we have factual information to prove otherwise. :D

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[QUOTE="Toriko42"]Cliff Bleszinski is one of the biggest talents in the North American video game industry. He has made the best new IP of the generation, thats a rare thing to see in this generation which seems to be sequel after sequel. He's made two games in two years that have gotten universal AAA ratings and he is a huge talent. He has something many people don't have, he knows what people want in their games and he never lies about his games unlike that Molynator.

What is with all the Dude Huge hate though, why do Cows and Sheep like to pick on him for being outspoken? Kojima is an amazing video game maker but he's also one of the biggest trolls of all time (I love him for that though). There are way more people to pick on, Cliffy B hasn't done anything but say his opinions why do you care. They make sense most of the time anyways. He asks questions normal people have, he's not an elitest gamer, he's a regular guy who likes his chainsaws, guns, and gore. What's wrong with that, as long as he makes the games.

Get off his back, he's done nothing wrong. He's a great developer and he's more successful then most will ever become in the gaming industry. Cliff to the 360 is like what Kojima is to the PS3 or Miyamoto is to the Wii. As far as this generation goes he runs the system. It's unnecessary to just flame Cliff and make a 20 page thread when he says something harmless like, "Mirrors Edge looks awesome but where is the gun play? I'd like to see more of it".

I'll admit, I'm a Gears of War fanboy but seriously give credit where it's due.MadExponent

CliffyB is a joke. Just look how he treats PC gamers. PC gamers put him where he is. Is got blinded by greed and is a complete douchebag.

Well atleast you're honest.
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#83 POJO_MOFO
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I respect Cliffy B for making a grea game, but he is still a douchebag
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#84 Ignee
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No. I don't like him. He's arrogant, and it's not that he's outspoken, it's that he's outspoken about stuff he doesn't know enough about. I don't understand why he should get a free pass because he is successful. He puts himself in the public eye, so he needs do deal with honest feedback.
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It's just jealous cows and sheep that bash Cliff B. I agree with you TC, he just states his opinion on most subjects.Zerual
Which in most cases is ridiculous.
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#86 BudsMcGreen
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Yes, the man is outspoken and a bit of a sell-out to the MS camp. But he is very smart and the people that call him a dousche-bag are likely jealous.
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#87 blackdreamhunk
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Yes, the man is outspoken and a bit of a sell-out to the MS camp. But he is very smart and the people that call him a dousche-bag are likely jealous.BudsMcGreen
more like has been where is his cutting edge gaming, lets compare his game to a game like crysis. Does even know how to make a new type of game how about new type of game play. rehased gameplay anyone?
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#88 Ignee
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your argument is that we need to stop stating our opinions on Cliffy B's lame opinions, but he can keep on stating his opinions, which are lame.

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#89 Toriko42
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Funny how you say he's to be commended for having a new IP when this generation is nothing but "sequel afer sequel", and yet he's jsut had a sequel to that new IP released a scant two years after the first one.ithilgore2006
What is wrong with that, Bioshock is also getting a sequel next year and many movies get sequels within a year?

I see no merit to your logic.
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#90 SonyMarksman70
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Why do you hate Cliffy B? Gosh this is like the Bush of gaming all over again. Is the man not entitled to speak his mind. :| & I agree with him about ME being ".............." so, I win.
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#91 blackdreamhunk
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I like how people will folllow and worship a game dev that will treat his fans like garbage. yea following the money!
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#92 LosDaddie
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eh....cows are just angry that Cliffy B's games are highly rated and sell great.

It's really fun to watch cows throw temper tantrums over him though! :lol:

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#93 blackdreamhunk
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eh....cows are just angry that Cliffy B's games are highly rated and sell great.

It's really fun to watch cows throw temper tantrums over him though! :lol:

LosDaddie
I'm a pc gamer i would rahter support game devs that care! than trash game devs!! I would say sony is a better company
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#94 EuroMafia
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I agree man. It seems like people love to diss or hate him for no real reason. He seems like a cool guy.cloudff7tm
I agree, except the cool guy part. Deep down he's a nerd.
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#95 SonyMarksman70
Member since 2008 • 1628 Posts
[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

eh....cows are just angry that Cliffy B's games are highly rated and sell great.

It's really fun to watch cows throw temper tantrums over him though! :lol:

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I'm a pc gamer i would rahter support game devs that care! than trash game devs!! I would say sony is a better company

What!!? Why buy a developer's video game overall? After all this is a business we're talking about here. You think w/e video developer you like hasn't trash talked another game, company or system? Get over your whining sir you sound hypocritical.
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#96 sargentbotk
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id rather be on his back than on his.....im not going to even finish that sentence. you fill in the blank with whatever you want.redmetal86
The "Hate Cliff Bleszenski" bandwagon has been functioning for a while now and you and every other cow and sheep has been riding it. You've been on "there" for a while now without knowing...why get off now? :)

Anyways, I don't see the where the hate comes from seriously. I'm guessing everyone in the gaming industry's mouths should be shut, be interviewed with non of their wanted opinions stated but with all professional talk and no substance.

Wow, does that sound fun...

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#97 blackdreamhunk
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Gears of war is a joke! gear of war 2 will be a joke! lets compared crysis warhead to gear of war 2 you tell me what game has better game play!
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#98 SonyMarksman70
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Gears of war is a joke! gear of war 2 will be a joke! lets compared crysis warhead you tell me what game has better game play!blackdreamhunk
Ah I see where this is going, it's not about the devs at all it's just fanboyish.EA I suppose isn't money hungry "leave your fans in the dust" type corporates? Not that I have anything against any company but why blatantly hate only to be ironically dis figured or corrected? Not that you care obviously... You just don't know what you're talking about.
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#99 jasonheyman
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Cliff Bleszinski is a million dollar "idiot". He knows about gaming and is a gamer himself hence his success. People are just pissed he says it like it is when it comes to the gaming industry.

My hats off to him;) Good job Cliff you drive your Viper while fan boys call you an "idiot" and still sell millions of copies for console games!

Thanks Cliff! Keep up the good work!!!!:D

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#100 sargentbotk
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[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]Gears of war is a joke! gear of war 2 will be a joke! lets compared crysis warhead you tell me what game has better game play!SonyMarksman70
Ah I see where this is going, it's not about the devs at all it's just fanboyish.EA I suppose isn't money hungry "leave your fans in the dust" type corporates? Not that I have anything against any company but why blatantly hate only to be ironically dis figured or corrected? Not that you care obviously... You just don't know what you're talking about.

Well that was the case from the get-go. They're just riding that bandwagon and people are joining them every second. To think we could form a grudge or an opinion about a person without even meeting them for 2 seconds...