give me 5 facts why you say xbox live is better than psn

[QUOTE="darthkirmy"][QUOTE="ENDOT12123"] because everything your saying dosnt make it better, they are different features but not exaclty better

AlMar12345

dedicated servers as opposed to p2p, and an online community that isn't composed of 6-14 year olds and total douchbags. I don't care if I don't get to talk to people that often on PS3 with my mic, silence is better than hearing a whiny kid scream while he plays or having someone blare music into their headset just to piss people off. In all honesty I have had maybe 3 good conversations on psn and absolutely none on xbl. when recalling stupid conversations some idiot was calling everyone racial slurs on Uncharted 2 once so I kicked him, thats about all I can come up with, but almost every time I play on xbl I have to deal with nonsensical douchbags who I have to mute because kicking them does no good, they just get replaced by other nonsensical douchbags.....don't say the community is better because its bigger, if I want to play a ps3 game online I can find a game online fine, the only difference is the sound of silence which I consider a good thing

Yeah the mic thing on Live is annoying but i used to have alot fun with it on Battlefield MC. Would spend nights teamkilling just so i can get my inbox filled with abusive messages and death threats. Too many gangster, pre pubescent children on Live. PS3 silence ftw

(jus wish more people had mics on ps3 maybe) every1 on my 360 has a mic

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And thats why.... the xbox community just feels more 'alive'...... the lack of mics on PSN makes it feel dead.

Sure... its quite difficult to see why xbox live is soo much better than PSN when you compare the side by side features, but PSN just lacks that community that xbox has... although xbox live has been around a lot longer. The decision to not include mics with PS3 consoles is probably one of the most stupidest things Sony did.

Honestly I don't know how XBL is really that much better than PSN. In many ways, I prefer PSN to XBL. Both are good services. I can't even name 5 reasons why one is superior to the other.

1 - far more games on Xbla than on PSN

2 - demos for every game

3 - faster downloads

4 - no mandatory instalations

5 - more ppl playing online

PAL360

So here is yet another thread where insecure cows can't come to grips with the fact that live is superior to PSN. I love how they mention immature kids on Live with mics as a fault, but fail to see the fact everyone has a mic makes it easier to communicate with everyone on your team which is way better then playing a game with 29 team mates in Warhawk and watching everyone else go in 29 directions and its been established not every PSN game has dedicated servers, so that point is invalid. Face reality XBL>>>>> PSN and quit changing the perameters of the argument everytime some lists a valid point TC...

[QUOTE="darthkirmy"][QUOTE="ENDOT12123"] because everything your saying dosnt make it better, they are different features but not exaclty better

AlMar12345

dedicated servers as opposed to p2p, and an online community that isn't composed of 6-14 year olds and total douchbags. I don't care if I don't get to talk to people that often on PS3 with my mic, silence is better than hearing a whiny kid scream while he plays or having someone blare music into their headset just to piss people off. In all honesty I have had maybe 3 good conversations on psn and absolutely none on xbl. when recalling stupid conversations some idiot was calling everyone racial slurs on Uncharted 2 once so I kicked him, thats about all I can come up with, but almost every time I play on xbl I have to deal with nonsensical douchbags who I have to mute because kicking them does no good, they just get replaced by other nonsensical douchbags.....don't say the community is better because its bigger, if I want to play a ps3 game online I can find a game online fine, the only difference is the sound of silence which I consider a good thing

[QUOTE="darthkirmy"][QUOTE="ENDOT12123"] because everything your saying dosnt make it better, they are different features but not exaclty better

dedicated servers as opposed to p2p, and an online community that isn't composed of 6-14 year olds and total douchbags. I don't care if I don't get to talk to people that often on PS3 with my mic, silence is better than hearing a whiny kid scream while he plays or having someone blare music into their headset just to piss people off. In all honesty I have had maybe 3 good conversations on psn and absolutely none on xbl. when recalling stupid conversations some idiot was calling everyone racial slurs on Uncharted 2 once so I kicked him, thats about all I can come up with, but almost every time I play on xbl I have to deal with nonsensical douchbags who I have to mute because kicking them does no good, they just get replaced by other nonsensical douchbags.....don't say the community is better because its bigger, if I want to play a ps3 game online I can find a game online fine, the only difference is the sound of silence which I consider a good thing

There is a nasty rumor going around PSN that Sony may start charging for it's on-line service. Being a PS3 owner myself I don't want to see this happen obviously. But if it were to happen, it could mean the end of these silly "PSN is Better" or "PSN is just as good" kind of threads. I think that if Sony Loyalists started paying for PSN they would quickly realize that as far as on-line functionality is concerned, they definitely wouldhave the short end of the stick. I would just go back to being an XBL Gold subscriber.

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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Well that's the problem. No one cares about you and how you want gaming and systems to be. We are comparing the services based on what they offer objectively. What you do and what is available are 2 seperate issues.

1080pOnly

How about being able to actually find an online match to play in games more than 6 months old? The 360 does that while the PS3 has you counting tumbleweeds instead.

[QUOTE="darthkirmy"] Since you know, parties lag out so often in XBL and you know.... you can mute people right?Vandalvideo

/facepalm So what does PSN have that is better than XBL? And dont list the features.... they dont count.darthkirmy

dedicated servers as opposed to p2p, and an online community that isn't composed of 6-14 year olds and total douchbags. I don't care if I don't get to talk to people that often on PS3 with my mic, silence is better than hearing a whiny kid scream while he plays or having someone blare music into their headset just to piss people off. In all honesty I have had maybe 3 good conversations on psn and absolutely none on xbl. when recalling stupid conversations some idiot was calling everyone racial slurs on Uncharted 2 once so I kicked him, thats about all I can come up with, but almost every time I play on xbl I have to deal with nonsensical douchbags who I have to mute because kicking them does no good, they just get replaced by other nonsensical douchbags.....don't say the community is better because its bigger, if I want to play a ps3 game online I can find a game online fine, the only difference is the sound of silence which I consider a good thing

TELL ME ABOUT ONLINE GAMEPLAY NOT DEMOS,ARCADE GAMES,MOVIES,TWITTER....NONE OF THAT BUT HOW IT PLAYS ONLINE i want fact and i dont wanna know bout twitter or face book as i can get them on a ps3 if i wanted, also with video rental i dont wanna know bout it, people always say online is better on 360 but when i play a 360 online then play a ps3 online i dont see any differnce,,

online play is the same

PS3 and 360

can play with friends invite/join

create/join/matchmaking

can voice chat in game ( xbox has the upper hand i no with private ingame chat but thats the only difference)

i have good internet so i dont get any lag no matter what console

the gameplay experience is the same the online experience is the same,

(jus wish more people had mics on ps3 maybe) every1 on my 360 has a mic

ENDOT12123

In terms of features Live > PSN cause Live has party system and cross game invite, PSN has chatroom which is sweet

In terms of content Live > PSN cause more DLC, every arcade game has a trial demo

In terms of design Live= PSN cause PSN menu functions much faster than Live such as sending messages but Live is simpler to use

In terms of community from my experience in regards to Mic useage, finding games general people's behaviour PSN = live,

back in the day there would be loads of players chatting on live but nowadays it had died down ALOT

Here's my 5:

• Cross-game invites - In my eyes, more important than cross-game chat. This isn't a simple text message either. No matter what you and your friends are doing on the console (playing different games, watching a movie, listening to music, whatever), I can send an invite. All a friend needs to do is open my message and click accept and he'll be pulled right into my session.
• Party system - Up to 8 friends can party up and launch into games together, again, no matter whateveryone is doing. Or you can stay in separate games and just chat. Much like the Halo 3 party system, but at the OS level.
• Community staff - They are both visible and accessible. From Major Nelson's news and shows, Trixie's organization of girl gamers, StepTo's policy enforcement to the community developer and ambassador programs.
• Community events - This isn't just the themed game nights on the Community Calendar. It's the Game With Fame, gaming with devs and my personal fave, Community PlayDate where I can game with people from a featured fan site.
• Better integration of features - Each feature is fleshed out and thought it put into how one part affects another. This isn't the scattershot, half implemented approach we see from Sony. We need only look at achievements/trophies, integration with Xbox.com and Playstation.com as good examples of this. It translates into the difference in their chatpad designs and the implementation of social networking functions.

[QUOTE="darthkirmy"][ L2 use party chat??? and most people dont talk trash or whine incessantly. Thats the same for both consoles. It happens on occasion but to say that one console has more annoying people than the other is an unproven opinion. Vandalvideo

If I'm in a party and decide to join a communication-heavy game without my party members, common sense dictates that I leave the party, and perhaps rejoin when I'm done. It makes no sense at all to stay in the party.

The problem's not with the party system. The problem is in setting yourself up for failure by consciously deciding to put yourself in that situation.

Better community? Anecdotal. I've encountered plenty of tools in Warhawk and SOCOM and Killzone 2 and Resistance 2 as well as your Halo 3's and Left 4 Deads. That's just the nature of the online beast when you play with randoms. Luckily on Xbox Live, I can party up and launch into games with my party members and not have to deal with that as much.

f I'm in a party and decide to join a communication-heavy game without my party members, common sense dictates that I leave the party, and perhaps rejoin when I'm done. It makes no sense at all to stay in the party.The problem's not with the party system. The problem is in setting yourself up for failure by consciously deciding to put yourself in that situation.VoodooHak

Better community? Anecdotal. I've encountered plenty of tools in Warhawk and SOCOM and Killzone 2 and Resistance 2 as well as your Halo 3's and Left 4 Deads. That's just the nature of the online beast when you play with randoms. Luckily on Xbox Live, I can party up and launch into games with my party members and not have to deal with that as much.

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]f I'm in a party and decide to join a communication-heavy game without my party members, common sense dictates that I leave the party, and perhaps rejoin when I'm done. It makes no sense at all to stay in the party.The problem's not with the party system. The problem is in setting yourself up for failure by consciously deciding to put yourself in that situation.Vandalvideo

Better community? Anecdotal. I've encountered plenty of tools in Warhawk and SOCOM and Killzone 2 and Resistance 2 as well as your Halo 3's and Left 4 Deads. That's just the nature of the online beast when you play with randoms. Luckily on Xbox Live, I can party up and launch into games with my party members and not have to deal with that as much.

I dont' think we're agreeing at all on the point of the party system. Based on your description of how you'd use is, if it's a nuisance to you, that's all on you. The system itself works just fine.

Regarding community, again... you've passed judgment based on your own personal experience. That's fine. However, that generalization can't be applied to everyone else in a single, sweeping blanket statement. It's not like it's a feature that can be emprically catalogued and measured. It's experiential. Mileage will vary.

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[QUOTE="ENDOT12123"] lol ok, nothing on xbox is so special in its own right to say its better, like the same on ps3

TintedEyes

How about being able to actually find an online match to play in games more than 6 months old? The 360 does that while the PS3 has you counting tumbleweeds instead.

Not all of us want to play Killzone or one of the big hits online. The rest of the games no one plays. I know because I often try.

Maybe you should try harder.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] You seem to be agreeing with me here. I personally think that the party system is a nuisance, or atleast an inconvenience.SpruceCaboose

There you go. Usually, I would just leave the party until I'm done. Switching channels is just fine too.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] You seem to be agreeing with me here. I personally think that the party system is a nuisance, or atleast an inconvenience.SpruceCaboose

Haha, PSN would have you quit the game, turn your music off, connect back to private chat etc.

Oops can't do private and in-game, oops no group chat, oh music doesn't work in this game, oh trophies aren't in that game, oh that demo isn't available, oh that DLC isn't either, oh no ones playing online, oh no mic to talk to me? And so on.

If you cannot see why XBL is better than you really need to get those fanboy goggles cleaned. Seriously.

well it costs money so i dont use it

well it costs money so i dont use it

farnham

Here's one thing that's better than TEN damned reasons; every feature it has is universally integrated.

[QUOTE="AlMar12345"]

[QUOTE="darthkirmy"] /facepalm So what does PSN have that is better than XBL? And dont list the features.... they dont count.darthkirmy

dedicated servers as opposed to p2p, and an online community that isn't composed of 6-14 year olds and total douchbags. I don't care if I don't get to talk to people that often on PS3 with my mic, silence is better than hearing a whiny kid scream while he plays or having someone blare music into their headset just to piss people off. In all honesty I have had maybe 3 good conversations on psn and absolutely none on xbl. when recalling stupid conversations some idiot was calling everyone racial slurs on Uncharted 2 once so I kicked him, thats about all I can come up with, but almost every time I play on xbl I have to deal with nonsensical douchbags who I have to mute because kicking them does no good, they just get replaced by other nonsensical douchbags.....don't say the community is better because its bigger, if I want to play a ps3 game online I can find a game online fine, the only difference is the sound of silence which I consider a good thing

no actually I had no idea I could mute people on xbl, its not like I mentioned it in my post or anything

[QUOTE="darthkirmy"][QUOTE="AlMar12345"]

dedicated servers as opposed to p2p, and an online community that isn't composed of 6-14 year olds and total douchbags. I don't care if I don't get to talk to people that often on PS3 with my mic, silence is better than hearing a whiny kid scream while he plays or having someone blare music into their headset just to piss people off. In all honesty I have had maybe 3 good conversations on psn and absolutely none on xbl. when recalling stupid conversations some idiot was calling everyone racial slurs on Uncharted 2 once so I kicked him, thats about all I can come up with, but almost every time I play on xbl I have to deal with nonsensical douchbags who I have to mute because kicking them does no good, they just get replaced by other nonsensical douchbags.....don't say the community is better because its bigger, if I want to play a ps3 game online I can find a game online fine, the only difference is the sound of silence which I consider a good thing

thecreechxxx

You bring up a good point, I was simply giving some past experience to show that the whole xbl better community thing isn't an effective argument, when it all boils down if you muted everyone both communities would be the same, so why try saying xbl community makes xbl better

I dont' think we're agreeing at all on the point of the party system. Based on your description of how you'd use is, if it's a nuisance to you, that's all on you. The system itself works just fine.VoodooHak

Regarding community, again... you've passed judgment based on your own personal experience. That's fine. However, that generalization can't be applied to everyone else in a single, sweeping blanket statement. It's not like it's a feature that can be emprically catalogued and measured. It's experiential. Mileage will vary.

[QUOTE="AlMar12345"]

[QUOTE="darthkirmy"] /facepalm So what does PSN have that is better than XBL? And dont list the features.... they dont count.h575309

dedicated servers as opposed to p2p, and an online community that isn't composed of 6-14 year olds and total douchbags. I don't care if I don't get to talk to people that often on PS3 with my mic, silence is better than hearing a whiny kid scream while he plays or having someone blare music into their headset just to piss people off. In all honesty I have had maybe 3 good conversations on psn and absolutely none on xbl. when recalling stupid conversations some idiot was calling everyone racial slurs on Uncharted 2 once so I kicked him, thats about all I can come up with, but almost every time I play on xbl I have to deal with nonsensical douchbags who I have to mute because kicking them does no good, they just get replaced by other nonsensical douchbags.....don't say the community is better because its bigger, if I want to play a ps3 game online I can find a game online fine, the only difference is the sound of silence which I consider a good thing

I never claimed to have a 360, my room mate has one and coincidently I play it a lot since a bunch of people love playing CTF on CoD5 on my floor and they seem to think I'm a good team mate so I play with them a lot, this is where I get my xbl opinions from, also I played a bunch of Gears and halo with my friends back home back in the day. As for the wireless mic thing, who cares?? how is that even an issue? My friend bought a wireless mic for the 360 because he didn't like the wired one.

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]I dont' think we're agreeing at all on the point of the party system. Based on your description of how you'd use is, if it's a nuisance to you, that's all on you. The system itself works just fine.Vandalvideo

Regarding community, again... you've passed judgment based on your own personal experience. That's fine. However, that generalization can't be applied to everyone else in a single, sweeping blanket statement. It's not like it's a feature that can be emprically catalogued and measured. It's experiential. Mileage will vary.

As long as you're playing with randoms, it's a roll of the dice no matter what you do, and no matter what platform you're on. You being in a party could help take the edge off, but it certainly won't solve the problem.

Regarding community, my experience is very different from yours. Because of my negative experiences with PSN, I'm inclined the opposite way, toward Xbox Live. I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Like I said, mileage will vary.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] You seem to be agreeing with me here. I personally think that the party system is a nuisance, or atleast an inconvenience.Vandalvideo

Hassle? It's a solution that 1) you have total control over, and 2) is very easy to execute.

One sure fire path to disappointment is to do nothing.

In the case of PSN, it's not that people need a solution. It's that that they don't even that the feature to begin with.

More players is a big benefit too. I was really shocked to see only 8900 players playing UC2 last night.

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Cross game chat

More and better Arcade games

Larger community (basically easier to find a match)

Everyone has a mic

Lots of little features, like Netflix, Twitter, Facebook, 1 v. 100, etc

Happy now?

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not really i want to know why its better to PLAY online i dont care bout arcade games/twitter/netflix etc thats not online gameplay

and its not even that much larger community nowdays if you see the stats n facts you will no what im talking bout, so im still waiting for a valid answer

As long as you're playing with randoms, it's a roll of the dice no matter what you do, and no matter what platform you're on. You being in a party could help take the edge off, but it certainly won't solve the problem.VoodooHak

Regarding community, my experience is very different from yours. Because of my negative experiences with PSN, I'm inclined the opposite way, toward Xbox Live. I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Like I said, mileage will vary

Hassle? It's a solution that 1) you have total control over, and 2) is very easy to execute.VoodooHak

One sure fire path to disappointment is to do nothing.In the case of PSN, it's not that people need a solution. It's that that they don't even that the feature to begin with.

1. Pay to text message

2. Pay to game invite

3. pay to voice chat.

4. pay to Twitter

5. Pay to watch movies with other xbl users

6. pay to view the game store

7. pay to play peer to peer gaming.

8. Pay to Dl demos , when they first come out.

Besides the obvious features there are also countless small features(too long to list) that make for a better online experience because everything is so integrated.They have to be experienced to be appreciated.

More content, better interface, more streamlined in-game communication capabilities, more games supported, and more people to play with. /end discussion.

so by TC logic the wii game play online is just as good as xbl or psn. becuase there is no difference off how the games play online. minus some lag

Seriously do you expect a game to be different just because you pay to play online.

You don't pay to play online with XBL you pay for all the features