give me 5 facts why you say xbox live is better than psn

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#101 TintedEyes
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1. Pay to text message

2. Pay to game invite

3. pay to voice chat.

4. pay to Twitter

5. Pay to watch movies with other xbl users

6. pay to view the game store

7. pay to play peer to peer gaming.

8. Pay to Dl demos , when they first come out.

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[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]As long as you're playing with randoms, it's a roll of the dice no matter what you do, and no matter what platform you're on. You being in a party could help take the edge off, but it certainly won't solve the problem.Vandalvideo
I didn't say the party system doesn't alleviate the system, it just seems like an added annoyance to deal with, which I shouldn't have to deal with in thefirst place.

Regarding community, my experience is very different from yours. Because of my negative experiences with PSN, I'm inclined the opposite way, toward Xbox Live. I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Like I said, mileage will vary

And I ask you, how long have you been playing the PSN and XBOX live, how many games have you played on both, and what is your total hours clocked? I won't say that my experience is fact, but I will say that, given the repeatability of my experience over the course of 3 years in practically every game I've played, I'm linclined to say it is the case.

PSN since launch. Xbox Live Gold for 6 years now. Plenty of games on both sides. To provide an even wider context, I've been playing online since the late 80's having cut my online teeth on MUDs.

Sorry to break it to you, but the more things change, the more they stay the same. My experience with PSN is that there are just as many jerks there as there are on any platform. That's what you get when you give someone anoymity and a bullhorn.

The differentiating factor between PSN and Xbox Live for me is the amount of ammenities Live offers. As I said, we're just going to have to agree to disagree on the matter.

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#103 thew13
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[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]As long as you're playing with randoms, it's a roll of the dice no matter what you do, and no matter what platform you're on. You being in a party could help take the edge off, but it certainly won't solve the problem.Vandalvideo
I didn't say the party system doesn't alleviate the system, it just seems like an added annoyance to deal with, which I shouldn't have to deal with in thefirst place.

Then don't use it - problem solved. Answer me this - how does an optional function make something worse than something without the same function?

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#104 omarguy01
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Here's the only reason I need for picking XBL: all my friends are on it.

If they were all on PSN then I'd probably be playing that and buying my multiplat games on that but no.

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#105 VoodooHak
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[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]Hassle? It's a solution that 1) you have total control over, and 2) is very easy to execute.Vandalvideo
Easy is relative. I find switching between channels to be a nuisance and extremely annoying. You, also, should not talk in absolutes.

One sure fire path to disappointment is to do nothing.In the case of PSN, it's not that people need a solution. It's that that they don't even that the feature to begin with.

I generally don't need a solution in PSN, over the two plus years I've used it. I'm saying, the remedy you are suggesting for the horrible experience I've had with Live is an annoyance to say the least.

My solution to avoid bad people online is to use the options given to you. Report especially bad players. Use the Avoid option. Mute. Even safer than that: stick to your friends lists. Use the party system. But whatever you do, don't do nothing.

If your solution is to not play on Xbox Live, then problem solved.

Looping this back to the original post.... I listed 5 features. If you don't find any value in them, that's fine. You're entitled. But the features are there for people to use or not use at their discretion. These are functional items on Xbox Live that do not appear on PSN.

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#106 VoodooHak
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="VoodooHak"]As long as you're playing with randoms, it's a roll of the dice no matter what you do, and no matter what platform you're on. You being in a party could help take the edge off, but it certainly won't solve the problem.thew13

I didn't say the party system doesn't alleviate the system, it just seems like an added annoyance to deal with, which I shouldn't have to deal with in thefirst place.

Then don't use it - problem solved. Answer me this - how does an optional function make something worse than something without the same function?

It doesn't. He's just had bad experiences on Live and now has an axe to grind.

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#107 chaoz-king
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Mic's and cross game chat is enough for me to pay 20 bucks for six months.
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#108 Vandalvideo
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PSN since launch. Xbox Live Gold for 6 years now. Plenty of games on both sides. To provide an even wider context, I've been playing online since the late 80's having cut my online teeth on MUDs.Sorry to break it to you, but the more things change, the more they stay the same. My experience with PSN is that there are just as many jerks there as there are on any platform. That's what you get when you give someone anoymity and a bullhorn The differentiating factor between PSN and Xbox Live for me is the amount of ammenities Live offers. As I said, we're just going to have to agree to disagree on the matter.VoodooHak
I honestly could care less about the ammenities that live offers. To be blunt, those ammenities should be entirely seperate from the online portions themselves. At this point in time, it sucks that the justification for charging for live is for ammenities which I largely don't even use in the first place. But the ethical standards here aren't part of this thread, but believe me when I could say that I could spin off twenty pages on dual-investor theory and how Microsoft is evil. But with that said, your experiences with muds in the past are irrelevant to your experiences with Live and PSN now. I have also been a participating member on Live since its foundation, and have been playing PSN since it has launched. I would also like to know which games you've played online on the PSN, which would allow you to make such claims.
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#109 Vandalvideo
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My solution to avoid bad people online is to use the options given to you. Report especially bad players. Use the Avoid option. Mute. Even safer than that: stick to your friends lists. Use the party system. But whatever you do, don't do nothing. If your solution is to not play on Xbox Live, then problem solved.VoodooHak
Which, as I repeat myself, I am not saying won't remedy the situation to some degree. My complaint is that I shouldn't even have to implement those possibly annoying things in the first place. The live community should be mature enough not to use racial epitaphs and animal noises.

Looping this back to the original post.... I listed 5 features. If you don't find any value in them, that's fine. You're entitled. But the features are there for people to use or not use at their discretion. These are functional items on Xbox Live that do not appear on PSN.

Don't misconstrue my posts. I have said nothing about your original five features. I am also not saying PSN itself is better than XBOX live. I honestly think they're both crap for entirely different reasons. Viva x-fire and all that junk. I'm merely commenting on my relative experiences with the communities.
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#110 Vandalvideo
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Then don't use it - problem solved. Answer me this - how does an optional function make something worse than something without the same function?thew13
I never said PSN was better than Live. I merely said my experiences with the communities themselves leads me to the belief that the PSN community is superior to the Live community.
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#111 Kickinurass
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Which, as I repeat myself, I am not saying won't remedy the situation to some degree. My complaint is that I shouldn't even have to implement those possibly annoying things in the first place. The live community should be mature enough not to use racial epitaphs and animal noises. Vandalvideo

That's like expecting sensible posts from the Youtube crowd:P

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#112 thew13
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[QUOTE="thew13"]Then don't use it - problem solved. Answer me this - how does an optional function make something worse than something without the same function?Vandalvideo
I never said PSN was better than Live. I merely said my experiences with the communities themselves leads me to the belief that the PSN community is superior to the Live community.

I was referring to the party system specifically, which you seemed to make out as a bad thing. All I was saying is you don't need to use - I rarely do, but it's still an option that works for people
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#113 ace070590
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[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]PSN since launch. Xbox Live Gold for 6 years now. Plenty of games on both sides. To provide an even wider context, I've been playing online since the late 80's having cut my online teeth on MUDs.Sorry to break it to you, but the more things change, the more they stay the same. My experience with PSN is that there are just as many jerks there as there are on any platform. That's what you get when you give someone anoymity and a bullhorn The differentiating factor between PSN and Xbox Live for me is the amount of ammenities Live offers. As I said, we're just going to have to agree to disagree on the matter.Vandalvideo
I honestly could care less about the ammenities that live offers. To be blunt, those ammenities should be entirely seperate from the online portions themselves. At this point in time, it sucks that the justification for charging for live is for ammenities which I largely don't even use in the first place. But the ethical standards here aren't part of this thread, but believe me when I could say that I could spin off twenty pages on dual-investor theory and how Microsoft is evil. But with that said, your experiences with muds in the past are irrelevant to your experiences with Live and PSN now. I have also been a participating member on Live since its foundation, and have been playing PSN since it has launched. I would also like to know which games you've played online on the PSN, which would allow you to make such claims.

You said, "I could care less about the ammentities that Live offers . . ." This is a valid point, on your part and your part only, however, these ammentities is what gives Xbox Live an edge over PSN, whether you like it or not. People pay for quality on all levels: good connection for games, great community, good games, community events, Facebook, Twitter, Netflix, etc. Therefore, you stating your opinion on the matter is fine, but you trying to belittle these features (Twitter, Netflix, Facebook, etc), which are some of the reasons why people like Xbox Live, is foolish. Also, you bringing up how Microsoft is "evil" still does not change the fact that Xbox Live has more features than the PSN; thus, in most people's eyes, makes it worth the money and makes it better than the PSN. I for one enjoy the PSN; however, people claiming that it is better than, or equal to Xbox Live, is foolish from the beginning because, once again, Xbox Live has more features overall . . . you can argue whether you like these features or not; but in the end, Xbox Live out does PSN.

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#115 donalbane
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1) True Skill: A complex ranking algorythm that matches you with players of similar skill

2) Far more users with headsets, since MS bundled a headset with most popular models of 360. PSN has less team-play as a result.

3) Cross application chat: talk with your friends no matter what either one of you is doing at the time. Makes joining games SO much easier than PSN, though this will change soon from what I hear.

4) Demos for all of the Arcade games. That's right... not some demos for some games. Demos for ALL of them. And while we're at it, there's a whole lot more arcade games available than on PSN.

5) Streaming thousands of Netflix movies never gets old. Love love love that feature.

Another great feature that isn't LIVE specific is the low power downloads. If you are downloading something, and want to turn off your cosnole, you can turn off the system, which then goes into a low power, download state. When you turn it on again, presto! There's your download. Oh, and did I mention you can queue up downloads from any PC? That's handy too.

Plus, the next update is going to add a slew of new features that only increase this gap. I can't wait to try streaming 1080p movies, but hey... I've got a fiber optic connection.

Look, I love my PS3, but if I get a multiplatform game that I am going to be playing primarily online, I absolutely get the 360 version. It's no fun to call your friend on their cellphone in order to set up a match.

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#116 donalbane
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[QUOTE="thew13"]Then don't use it - problem solved. Answer me this - how does an optional function make something worse than something without the same function?Vandalvideo
I never said PSN was better than Live. I merely said my experiences with the communities themselves leads me to the belief that the PSN community is superior to the Live community.

Online Experiences May Vary, irrespective of platform. I sure hope you aren't suggesting that for some reason people just act more congenially when using Sony's equipment, or that Playstation owners are somehow more friendly than 360 owners, because that would be an asanine assertion.
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#117 donalbane
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[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]

[QUOTE="spike6566"]

1. Pay to text message

2. Pay to game invite

3. pay to voice chat.

4. pay to Twitter

5. Pay to watch movies with other xbl users

6. pay to view the game store

7. pay to play peer to peer gaming.

8. Pay to Dl demos , when they first come out.

:lol:

You don't have to pay Microsoft to do 1, 4, or 6.
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#118 gago-gago
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TELL ME ABOUT ONLINE GAMEPLAY NOT DEMOS,ARCADE GAMES,MOVIES,TWITTER....NONE OF THAT BUT HOW IT PLAYS ONLINEENDOT12123

Why would you compare service vs service and not include those because those are part of the service. That's like comparing the 360 vs PS3 but you can't include Blu Ray.

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#119 MortalDecay
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This thread is going nowhere. XBL, and PSN are the same, with the exception that XBL has a few more featues, which is why people prefer it to PSN. TC won't accept that though, because he's flamebaiting, and he loves his PS3.

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#120 MortalDecay
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1. Pay to text message

2. Pay to game invite

3. pay to voice chat.

4. pay to Twitter

5. Pay to watch movies with other xbl users

6. pay to view the game store

7. pay to play peer to peer gaming.

8. Pay to Dl demos , when they first come out.

spike6566
You're wrong on half of those. Maybe it would help if you've actually seen a 360.
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#121 PrimusGears
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1 - far more games on Xbla than on PSN

2 - demos for every game

3 - faster downloads

4 - no mandatory instalations

5 - more ppl playing online

PAL360

downloading demos are so much faster on xbox live. ITs a much faster service, and when you have an update everything is done for you, meanwhile the updates on the PS3 you have to go to it approve it and then it takes abut 10 times longer than the xbox update. Its just a much better service.. Native 1080P movies now around the corner, and Natal will be intergrated as well. I definitely dont mind paying the 50 bucks, it ensures that I dont have to wonder and wait for things IE CROSS GAME CHAT, and fully has keep me happy from day 1. Xbox live is the trend setter for sure.....

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#122 Microdevine
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well first. we pay for an online service. not just specifically online gameplay. but heres 5 legitimate ones.

1. party system

2. netflix

3. better layout

4. instant 1080p streaming

5. everbody has mics(which i know technically doesnt have any money value but its a really nice addition when you play an online game)

and other things like getting most of the exlcusive dlc, larger community, twitter and facebook integration, avatars, and all my friends are on live so i can game with them. which is huge for me.

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#123 druggyjoe3000
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Deal of the week for gold members. Ive saved hundreds of m$ points thanks to the deal of the week.

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#124 Ravenlore_basic
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Cross game chat -with, email, PC chat, cell phone-text, social communities I do not ned this really as most gamers are tards!! like SWLOL ;)

More and better Arcade games :lol: LOL Wii has the best Arcade games fact!!... wait no its the sega dream cast had the best:shock:

Larger community (basically easier to find a match) its about the same last time I played. sometimes its easy other times its not depends

Everyone has a mic WOW I wish this was not true. I wanted to mute everyone NE way and if it was my Xbox 360 I would have. though not EVERYONE has a mic on xbox 360 ....

Lots of little features, like Netflix, Twitter, Facebook, 1 v. 100, etc ... well if it works for you, I don't like to pay more than I need so I have netflex with out the console.

Happy now?

enterawesome

They offer a product some people like product X others like product S.... thats about it. No real advantages. Just a lot of hot air

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#125 Vipa37
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Fine gameplay wise

1. Notifications of friends online

2. People have mics

3. Games that are p2p are faster to get into and play

4. Custom Soundtracks for ALL games

5. Updates for games are implimented better

Ask any person who games on PS3 about seeing this game has a new update and whatever version that update is at. If the update is more than double digits its gonna take awhile before you can game that is especially troubling if the game is online only and it has 5 different installls that vary in size.

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#126 gago-gago
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I just wanted to contribute.

For Xbox Live, with any and every game with split screen or local play, you are able to sign onto different accounts and all of you who are playing will get your Achievements and different stats for each players.

You can't do that with most PS3 games and PSN. Most of the time you can only sign on as guests and you don't get Trophies at the same time. I can only think of one PS3 game that lets you sign on with different PSN IDs, and that's LBP. There's probably more but that's the only game I can think of right now.

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#127 Franklinstein
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"TELL ME ABOUT ONLINE GAMEPLAY NOT DEMOS,ARCADE GAMES,MOVIES,TWITTER....NONE OF THAT BUT HOW IT PLAYS ONLINE"

lol fail right there. LIVE is more then just online gaming. its getting XBLA games before PSN, its getting demos weeks before PSN, its getting DLC before PSN. Live fees goes towards bribing devs to give us content BEFORE PS3. then theres party chat and netflix movie sharing.

Its whats makes 360 gamers elite and ps3 gamers waiting for the seconds IMO

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360 gamers are not elite. That is a ridiculous statement. You think it's wise to pay a monthly fee so you get something a few weeks before someone else gets it? Well, it's not. I'd much rather wait a few weeks, hell even a year or two wouldn't bother me, because I am laid back. Besides I have much more important things to do with my life then sitting in front of the television and playing ODST for 7 straight hours.
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#128 James_8D
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I do know that games are alot faster on xbox (creating games for a "hardware supperior" console like the PS3 makes it slower). Being in a game while you on xbl doesnt limit you. You can send messages, invites, chat, and everything else you could do if you were on the dashboard. Using MSN also lets you talk to your computer friends. Lets not forget that the games on xbox (halo, GOW, Fable, PGR, Forza, ect.) are alot more fun anyway.
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#129 Hathesulacon
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Ok.

  1. Cross-game voice chat
  2. Party Chat
  3. Movie parties.
  4. XBL avatar games
  5. Soundtracks in all games

PS3_3DO

I love Xbox too, by the way, fix your sig buddy, Red FACTION, you have fRaction

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#130 deactivated-5f19d4c9d7318
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[QUOTE="Ravenlore_basic"]

[QUOTE="enterawesome"]

Cross game chat -with, email, PC chat, cell phone-text, social communities I do not ned this really as most gamers are tards!! like SWLOL ;)

More and better Arcade games :lol: LOL Wii has the best Arcade games fact!!... wait no its the sega dream cast had the best:shock:

Larger community (basically easier to find a match) its about the same last time I played. sometimes its easy other times its not depends

Everyone has a mic WOW I wish this was not true. I wanted to mute everyone NE way and if it was my Xbox 360 I would have. though not EVERYONE has a mic on xbox 360 ....

Lots of little features, like Netflix, Twitter, Facebook, 1 v. 100, etc ... well if it works for you, I don't like to pay more than I need so I have netflex with out the console.

Happy now?

They offer a product some people like product X others like product S.... thats about it. No real advantages. Just a lot of hot air

Dreamcast games might go the PS3 way too, plus when i play games online on my ps3 with a mic on i tend to be paired with others with mics, no problem there either. Netflix is on PS3, facebook is already on it, twitter probably, i mean the PS3 has the whole internet.
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#131 Ravenlore_basic
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[QUOTE="ENDOT12123"]

[QUOTE="enterawesome"]

Cross game chat

More and better Arcade games

Larger community (basically easier to find a match)

Everyone has a mic

Lots of little features, like Netflix, Twitter, Facebook, 1 v. 100, etc

Happy now?

ActicEdge

not really i want to know why its better to PLAY online i dont care bout arcade games/twitter/netflix etc thats not online gameplay

and its not even that much larger community nowdays if you see the stats n facts you will no what im talking bout, so im still waiting for a valid answer

The difference is minimal.However, the argumnet has been XBL is a better service than PSN. A service involves everything it offers which is why those are valid points. I hate when posters make topics asking a question just to argue with the reesponders and tell them they are wrong. Atleast if you want to do that have it in a worthwhile thread.

That was the point of the tread. The difference between Live and PSN is minimal when playing games. The other abilities on Live are not really game related per say. BUT they are viewed by many as intricate to the game experience and terefore LIVE vastly superior Online play. BUT its all opinion. ITS all SUBJECTIVE!!

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#132 awssk8er716
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1. I have too much money in my wallet! So much that I can't fit it all! Paying for Xbox Live helps me there.

2. Cross-game voice chat! Because I don't have any friends IRL.

3. Demos download faster.

That's all I could think of.