[QUOTE="Kiron22"]I am going to agree with you on the most part, Nintendo has itself abandoned the core market, it's now known that Zelda: Twilight Princess was completley scrapped half way through and built up again to be casual friendly (it had 1:1 Sword movement :( ) and from what I have heard Metroid has been made more Casual friendly, then Nintendo just throws Non-Gamer crap at us.Nintendo is still going to deliver the good's for us hardcore, just look at Super Mario Galaxy and Metroid, Both Amazing games but what I am worried about is Nintendo not letting these games reach full potiential because they want it to be "Casual" or "Non-gamer" friendly, in my honest opinion, the Wii Controller turned out to be a flop, why?, because companies are not allowing us to use it to it's full potential as we should be allowed, in FPS, why is there no option to put the Wii controller on a desk and use it as a mouse?, why is their no option to get rid of the bounding box?, we were all hoping Nintendo would show the third parties really what to do with the Wii controller, but Nintendo have seemed to abandon the "Revolution" for brain age.
Now the reason I am not abandoning the Wii, is because even though, Nintendo has abandoned us, Third parties have not, later this year and early next year we are getting a slew of hardcore games, like No more Heroes, Final Fantasy: Crystal chronicals, Zack and Wiki, Battalion wars and many others, and I can wait the drought because I have a gaming rig, letting me to have access to really PS3 and Xbox360 "Games" ((Lets be honest 99% of their "Exclusives" are just PC ports)
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I'm a bit confused on your comment on the 360's exclusives, since many, such as Halo 3 and GeoW, comes out first on the 360 and later go to the PC. In any case, yes, I do know what you're conveying, but this is more about Nintendo's decision than what the other companies are doing.
I am frustrated about the third parties here - early on in the GCN we had Silicon Knights and Factor Five releasing impressive games, but what I see here is a lot of third parties saying "mii too!" and going along with Nintendo's non-gamer direction. They haven't stepped up to fill a void, rather they've gone with a profitable trend. The core third party title is a GCN port, not a comforting sign.
I have no claimed that there would be *zero* core titles on the system, simply that it's focus is on non-gamers at the exclusion of core gamers. You have to ask "what could have Miyamoto made, instead of Wii Fitness?" That's the question that keeps coming back to mind. Where is the title with the difficulty and complexity of early Zelda titles? Where is the IP that takes their place in both depth and quality? The new IPs coming are aimed at the new audience, not the core gamer, and they come at a cost.
As much as they like to claim "games for everyone" or that non-gamer titles do not come at a cost - they do - there is always the opportunity cost of the titles that talented designers are not creating, because they are busy with these other projects.
Ahh yes, Games for everyone had me pissed off as well, like when they said a n00b could keep up with a pro in Mario kart and Super Smash Bros Brawl, I was like "Wtf", the only way they can do that, is actually take depth out of the game that let's pro's take advantage of certain moves or tricks of such and make the game a generic racer or generic fighter.
One thing you have to remember now is though, E3 is not aimed at Gamespot or IGN or 1up anymore, it's aimed at FOX, CNN and other mainstream outlets, which is why Nintendo went with the "Non-gamer" spin, even though us gamers say that Sony "Won" E3, the true winner was Nintendo simply because they played the media into their hands, in reality, Microsoft and Sony's conferences were complete failures in the eyes of the mainstream media (which is not a good thing btw), now what Nintendo need's to do now is stfu about non-gamer crap, and get it's core gear together at either TGS or even a only Nintendo event, like Space world, because tbh, Mainstream media won't give a **** about those event's and it's a prime time Nintendo to show it's "Core" Muscle, now this is ofcourse probably not going to happen, but we can hope, we know hundreds of games are in development for Wii, it's common fact, now we also know 90% of those are going to be for Casuals and "Non-gamers" (also I love how Nintendo tried to spin Casual crap as Core at the press conference, like Madden, wtf) now that leaves quite a few core games in development, now remember how many of those hundred's of games have been unveiled?, like 10-20% of them, at this E3, about 10 games new were announced across all platforms including PC, meaning that we have alot of games at the moment in stealth mode, hell we have games we know about in stealth mode, where the **** was Crystal Chronicals or no more heroes?, I believe in my honest opinion, that Nintendo still has unshown core games up it's sleaves, that it is waiting to show at another event or time, Nintendo must know that it has not really "Expanded" the audience, it's quite common fact, that all the Wii is doing is eating the Playstation sales that have been left over since PS3 failed (which it did cows, no matter how "Awesome" PS3 went this E3, it's too little, too late), well I am hoping Nintendo knows this.
I will hang onto my Wii and keep up to date on Nintendo through this gen because simply I have a Wii and I hope I did not waste $300, I am hopefull Nintendo has something else up it's sleaves, and even though I still blame Nintendo, I largly Blame E3 for the anti-nintendo sentiment among Sheep at the moment.
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