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#51 deactivated-58bd60b980002
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@BassMan: PC gamers play the same crappy AAA game than consol gamers ... they just have a more polish turd than consol gamers. Evolution and innovation ? there is none on both PC and Consol for a very long time.

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#53 Legend002
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@jhonMalcovich said:

So what is the reason to buy PS4 then, if at best we are going to have only 6 worthy exclusives for the entire Gen. And right now there is like only ONE noteworthy exclusive, Bloodborne. This is it.

In 2016, this in 1080p at a blistering jiggling 60fps

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#54 RyviusARC
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@gameofthering said:
@Bikouchu35 said:

Doesn't everyone with rant post have short term memory only? The ps3 had a nasty drought before the games started releasing too. Ps3/360 gen also dragged on way too long 05/06-13 jeezus.

Same with the PS2 gen (98 - 05). It lasted quite a while.

PS2 released in March of 2000 in Japan and the end of Oct 2000 in America.

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#55  Edited By deactivated-58ce94803a170
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I just game on my PC, Wii U, and 3DS, its a match made in heaven.

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#56 jun_aka_pekto
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Huh. I thought I was the only PC gamer who loved the Uncharted games. ;)

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#57 SakuraBomb
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The games are coming

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#58 HalcyonScarlet
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Well said TC.

I don't think everything going to the PC was a good thing. I mean it's great for us, but we used to get consoles for the games that weren't on the PC. And now we just have less of a reason to pick up consoles.

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#59 R4gn4r0k
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@Bikouchu35 said:

Doesn't everyone with rant post have short term memory only? The ps3 had a nasty drought before the games started releasing too. Ps3/360 gen also dragged on way too long 05/06-13 jeezus.

Yeah, the PS5 isn't exactly around the corner.

Once Xbone and PS4 had their early droughts the games will start coming.

We still have to see so much stuff from both MS and Sony studios, the coming years will be great.

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#61 1080pOnly
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@Coco_pierrot said:

@BassMan: PC gamers play the same crappy AAA game than consol gamers ... they just have a more polish turd than consol gamers. Evolution and innovation ? there is none on both PC and Consol for a very long time.

Clearly not played much on PC then.

I agree that this gen is weak sauce though when it comes to consoles. So few titles of worth, those that are coming are mostly re-hashes or sequels and most still don't run at a decent resolution or frame rate. Graphics, sound and gameplay are stuck in the previous gen because none of the consoles can handle decent VR or AR, although they will see it in a limited form. Oh well, I guess it's nice for console gamers to see what it was like having a PC in 2009.

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#62 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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@jhonMalcovich said:

So what is the reason to buy PS4 then, if at best we are going to have only 6 worthy exclusives for the entire Gen. And right now there is like only ONE noteworthy exclusive, Bloodborne. This is it.

The gaming industry is enormous. Over the course of last generation it has become an extremely casual affair. We are on a gaming website so of course most will see it differently here, but in reality the general ps4/xbox audience don't give a sht about exclusive numbers etc etc.

Nintendo was not bullshitting when they said they don't believe they are in competition with sony and microsoft. There's some crossover, of course, but the wiiu is more of a niche console at this point. A different audience seeks the experiences on that console.

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#63  Edited By deactivated-57d8401f17c55
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Get a wii u.

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#64 FoxbatAlpha
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TC was thinking about a PS4. I think TC spent too much time living under power lines or something.

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#65 gameofthering
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@RyviusARC said:
@gameofthering said:
@Bikouchu35 said:

Doesn't everyone with rant post have short term memory only? The ps3 had a nasty drought before the games started releasing too. Ps3/360 gen also dragged on way too long 05/06-13 jeezus.

Same with the PS2 gen (98 - 05). It lasted quite a while.

PS2 released in March of 2000 in Japan and the end of Oct 2000 in America.

Yeah, but the start of that generation (6th) was November 1998 (Dreamcast) until November 2005 (Xbox 360). The next generation (7th) was November 2005 (Xbox 360) until November 2012 (Wii U)

Just about the same length.

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#66  Edited By Doozie78
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OP is on the mark. This has been a pretty abysmal console generation. Shit games everywhere and LESS than a handful of truly worthy games (you know it's bad when the U has more great games than the rest). I'm pretty bummed it turned out so poorly and I won't be buying another generation of consoles. It seems that PC is where it's at for me.

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#67 vvulturas
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Another day, another dumb thread on System Wars. This place goes full circle...

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#68 PSP107
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@Bikouchu35: "The ps3 had a nasty drought before the games started releasing too. "

Stop lying to yourself. PS4/Xone is going into their 3rd holiday season. 360/PS3 in the same time span had games that considered next gen quality.

Anyway the TC is an idiot because he says consoles suck but only ripped the PS4. They all suck.

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#69 quakeknight1991
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Well, at least people are starting to realize how much cinematic games suck, for that alone this console generation has the potential to be better then the past one at some point.

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#70  Edited By Bikouchu35
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@PSP107 said:

@Bikouchu35: "The ps3 had a nasty drought before the games started releasing too. "

Stop lying to yourself. PS4/Xone is going into their 3rd holiday season. 360/PS3 in the same time span had games that considered next gen quality.

Anyway the TC is an idiot because he says consoles suck but only ripped the PS4. They all suck.

I stressed more with the drought of games on the ps3 just b.c all the multiplats came later. 360 did alright, but I was mentioning how the gen stretched out pretty long too.

Seriously though does everyone have long term memory loss? Give me ps2 gen anyday, I was surrounded by games I want when I got it a year or two in. Did you forget its infamous moniker "waitstation 3" go google it. Also I know this firsthand since I had the ps3 2 months in its life span and the thing practically became a ps2/bluray player for a while.

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#71 jhonMalcovich
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@PSP107 said:

@Bikouchu35: "The ps3 had a nasty drought before the games started releasing too. "

Stop lying to yourself. PS4/Xone is going into their 3rd holiday season. 360/PS3 in the same time span had games that considered next gen quality.

Anyway the TC is an idiot because he says consoles suck but only ripped the PS4. They all suck.

Well, you may figure out that xbox sucks because I didn't even consider to buy it. Why bother if most of xbox one exlusives will probably end up on PC.

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Another lonely hermit. Sad. Forever Alone.

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#73 Ghost120x
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3\10

There is a thread like this once a week. You would think hermits would have something better to do, like playing all those pc exclusive games on their 4k monitors. At least make a thread with some content like a table that compares what came out on previous gen consoles in the same time frame etc to prove your point. It would greatly help the quality of future threads.

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@oflow said:

Another lonely hermit. Sad. Forever Alone.

Console fanboy rebuttals, always so childish.

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@Ghost120x said:

3\10

There is a thread like this once a week. You would think hermits would have something better to do, like playing all those pc exclusive games on their 4k monitors. At least make a thread with some content like a table that compares what came out on previous gen consoles in the same time frame etc to prove your point. It would greatly help the quality of future threads.

0/10 ... Hermits have at least 2 screens you no. takes next to no effort to put peasants in their place while playing a game. oh sorry... you get Microosft Snap ... or PS4/Wii u nothing.... we get it.

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#76 oflow
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Yea nice try I have a gaming pc too. You can look me up on Steam:

steamcommunity.com/id/oflow

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#77 sukraj
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Another stupid thread

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#78 foxhound_fox
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Console manufacturers sell their hardware based on hype now. Not delivering actual content.

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#79 lundy86_4
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Both consoles have pretty solid lineups for the near future. Xbone edges out PS4 for the end of 2015 and 2016 IMO, though if Persona 5 is as good as I hope that may change.

Either way, the consoles have definitely not bee up to par up until now. Though, the WiiU has had some great releases.

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#80  Edited By PSP107
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@jhonMalcovich: "Why bother if most of xbox one exlusives will probably end up on PC."

Then why bother putting consoles in your title?

@Bikouchu35:

PS3 Nov 06- Aug 2015 vs PS4 Nov 2013- Aug 2015

Who wins?

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#81 Puckhog04
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To each his own. I can't stand PC gaming. Never an exclusive worthwhile. And the ones worthwhile end up on consoles. Look at The Forest, Orcs Must Die, Planetside 2, Guantlet, Divinity Original Sin, Wasteland 2, etc. Yet, I can play Zelda, Mario, Halo, Crackdown, Uncharted, Forza, Sunset Overdrive, etc. all exclusively on the Consoles. Ridiculous argument as there are plenty of exclusives worthwhile. But to each his own.

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#82 Ribstaylor1
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@Puckhog04 said:

Yet, I can play Zelda, Mario, Halo, Crackdown, Uncharted, Forza, Sunset Overdrive, etc. all exclusively on the Consoles.

Thing is though not a single thing you've listed seems interesting. I know, I know to each his own. But Damn where the **** is the originality out of 5 of 6 games you've mentioned. It's 2015 why the hell are people still getting excited for zelda, mario, halo and uncharted?.

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First off TC it is awefully hard to judge the quality of any piece of hardware that you do not have extensive experience with.

With that said though, having had a PS4 since launch, yeah it is pretty abysmal IF you own either a PC or an X1. And lets not fool ourselves, both the PS4 and X1 are pathetically weak, anyone claiming otherwise are either ignorant or blind fanboys.

However there is some merit to a thing such as the PS4. There are some rather unique games on it and coming for it, mostly Japanese games. Which kind of justifies it.

There is a few points about the logic that is correct, The PS4 is relatively expensive for mostly nothing, most games are multiplats, the PS4 does not exactly handle the majority of games well. So any mid range PC would outperform it, and have near no negatives in the process.

However! for people only wanting a single device for gaming, for casual gamers, and for people who are not too technical (not kidding, ever looked at the backside of the PS4? you'd have to be from the stone age, not to set that thing up within 10 minutes).

In those cases the PS4 IS worth it. I know people who almost has a mental breakdown when using a PC, and even though it is easier then ever to game on a PC, some people still recoil, others simply work in front of a PC for many hours and would prefer not to when gaming. For those there is merit.

So it is a question about the consumer, not the medium. The PS4 is made for a specific kind of consumer, just like GPUS are. No one buys a console for the performance, it has always been the ease of use (and last gen being an abnormality in raw power when they released). Exclusives this gen have been abysmal on consoles that is true, outside of Ninty, it seems that everyone else forgot the word, for better or worse. But Deception 4, Persona 5, the odd Japanese obscure game, those are what could be a reason to own a PS4 (that and I needed a Blu-Ray player).

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#84  Edited By RyviusARC
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@gameofthering said:
@RyviusARC said:
@gameofthering said:
@Bikouchu35 said:

Doesn't everyone with rant post have short term memory only? The ps3 had a nasty drought before the games started releasing too. Ps3/360 gen also dragged on way too long 05/06-13 jeezus.

Same with the PS2 gen (98 - 05). It lasted quite a while.

PS2 released in March of 2000 in Japan and the end of Oct 2000 in America.

Yeah, but the start of that generation (6th) was November 1998 (Dreamcast) until November 2005 (Xbox 360). The next generation (7th) was November 2005 (Xbox 360) until November 2012 (Wii U)

Just about the same length.

It's more sensible to count a system's lifespan until it is replaced by a successor.

The Dreamcast was dead only a couple of years out the door and the PS2 lasted about 6 years while the Gamecube lasted 5 and the Xbox went on for 4 years.

5-6 years is the average.

The reason last gen lasted so long was because of how much money both Microsoft and Sony lost and how the economy was doing very badly.

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@Puckhog04 said:

To each his own. I can't stand PC gaming. Never an exclusive worthwhile. And the ones worthwhile end up on consoles. Look at The Forest, Orcs Must Die, Planetside 2, Guantlet, Divinity Original Sin, Wasteland 2, etc. Yet, I can play Zelda, Mario, Halo, Crackdown, Uncharted, Forza, Sunset Overdrive, etc. all exclusively on the Consoles. Ridiculous argument as there are plenty of exclusives worthwhile. But to each his own.

So basically you have to buy all 3 consoles to experience there games that can hold up and while some PC games do show up to the consoles you end up waiting for the inferior versions. While PC loses exclusives the amount of devs support easily makes up for it.

And why is it that a PC game is only worthwile when it comes to console. Gauntlet, Orcs must die, Divinity franchises/developers ain't no strangers to consoles.

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Just stick with the PC. Its the best in the end, You need a console that doesn't have any PC love. PC and Nintendo are a great couple.

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@PSP107 said:

@jhonMalcovich: "Why bother if most of xbox one exlusives will probably end up on PC."

Then why bother putting consoles in your title?

@Bikouchu35:

PS3 Nov 06- Aug 2015 vs PS4 Nov 2013- Aug 2015

Who wins?

I was saying that they both suck around its early years. Why are you trying to argue against a point that I wasn't even making anyway? I wasn't comparing its life span just the same time frame from launch.

Personally I'll take ps2 near its launch, it was flooded with games that I wanted to play while having a shorter prime time life.

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#88 jcrame10
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@jhonMalcovich: it's like the Sony devs disappeared. We haven't heard anything from Sucker Punch since Second Son, Naughty Dog is taking an unusually long time with U4, Insomniac is no longer PS exclusive (Ratchet next year though). Media Molecule has Dreams coming and Gurriella Games has Horizon. Santa Monica, Sony Bend and Polyphony Digital have been quiet.

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#89 isturbo1984
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It's only been 2 years since the start of the console generation, dude. How many games were out on the PS3 just 2 years after launch? Think about it.

Also, lol, you act like the PS4 is the only console. You literally named the console with the least amount of quality exclusives. The internet has got you whipped. Be a gamer, not a fanboy. Otherwise... have fun playing your no games on your one platform.

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#90 PSP107
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@Bikouchu35: "I wasn't comparing its life span just the same time frame from launch."

I didn't say you were. But I made an error in which I wanted to say PS3 from Nov 06- Aug 2008. Vs PS4 Nov 2013- Aug 2015

And I don't know why you bring up PS2 in the mix.

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@jhonMalcovich said:

Recently I was thinking of buying PS4, but I just couldn't bring myself to do it. I am PC gamer, so assess consoles by their exclusive lineup. So far, the only PS4 exclusive that interests me is Bloodborne. I had tried to think of something else interesting and currently available on PS4, and I couldn't come up with anything. Seriously guys, what the hell, compared to PS3 PS4 sucks balls. Yeh I know that Last Guardian, Uncharted 4, and Horizon are coming probably next year. The thing is, I did math in my head and was shocked how slowly exclusives are being released this Gen. I mean, cool Uncharted 4 is coming next year, but when Uncharted 5 is scheduled to be released ? In 2018 or something ? Isn't it when the current Gen basically ends ?

On PS3 we had had Uncharted 1,2,3 and Last of Us all in one Gen.

What is the deal with PS4 ? We will only have ONE single Uncharted this Gen, and for Uncharted 5 you will have to buy PS5, is it ?

So what is the reason to buy PS4 then, if at best we are going to have only 6 worthy exclusives for the entire Gen. And right now there is like only ONE noteworthy exclusive, Bloodborne. This is it.

This post sucks.

A gen lasts for roughly 7-8 years..

Usually a game like Uncharted takes 2 years. You wanting them to come in faster is ridiculous and makes me question your age. Humans can only jump so high remember. You just basically asked a human to jump over a 2 story building. Why ?

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@jhonMalcovich said:

I mean, cool Uncharted 4 is coming next year, but when Uncharted 5 is scheduled to be released ? In 2018 or something ? Isn't it when the current Gen basically ends ?

On PS3 we had had Uncharted 1,2,3 and Last of Us all in one Gen.

I noticed this as well, but hopefully 2018 isn't the end of the current console generation. Sony also supported the PS3 with good exclusives for longer than Microsoft supported the XBOX

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#93 freedomfreak
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They're alright.

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#94  Edited By deactivated-57d8401f17c55
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@freedomfreak said:

They're alright.

:P

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#95 aroxx_ab
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Gosh this thread SUUUCK

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#96 1080pOnly
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@Puckhog04 said:

To each his own. I can't stand PC gaming. Never an exclusive worthwhile. And the ones worthwhile end up on consoles. Look at The Forest, Orcs Must Die, Planetside 2, Guantlet, Divinity Original Sin, Wasteland 2, etc. Yet, I can play Zelda, Mario, Halo, Crackdown, Uncharted, Forza, Sunset Overdrive, etc. all exclusively on the Consoles. Ridiculous argument as there are plenty of exclusives worthwhile. But to each his own.

Hurr durr

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@jhonMalcovich said:

Recently I was thinking of buying PS4, but I just couldn't bring myself to do it. I am PC gamer, so assess consoles by their exclusive lineup. So far, the only PS4 exclusive that interests me is Bloodborne. I had tried to think of something else interesting and currently available on PS4, and I couldn't come up with anything. Seriously guys, what the hell, compared to PS3 PS4 sucks balls. Yeh I know that Last Guardian, Uncharted 4, and Horizon are coming probably next year. The thing is, I did math in my head and was shocked how slowly exclusives are being released this Gen. I mean, cool Uncharted 4 is coming next year, but when Uncharted 5 is scheduled to be released ? In 2018 or something ? Isn't it when the current Gen basically ends ?

On PS3 we had had Uncharted 1,2,3 and Last of Us all in one Gen.

What is the deal with PS4 ? We will only have ONE single Uncharted this Gen, and for Uncharted 5 you will have to buy PS5, is it ?

So what is the reason to buy PS4 then, if at best we are going to have only 6 worthy exclusives for the entire Gen. And right now there is like only ONE noteworthy exclusive, Bloodborne. This is it.

This post sucks.

A gen lasts for roughly 7-8 years..

Usually a game like Uncharted takes 2 years. You wanting them to come in faster is ridiculous and makes me question your age. Humans can only jump so high remember. You just basically asked a human to jump over a 2 story building. Why ?

2 Years to make, 8 hours to complete, 2 days till you're selling it 2nd hand.

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#98  Edited By Wickerman777
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Yes, this gen sucks. But I think pretty much everyone knows that already. It's probably the weakest batch of consoles vs the time they released ever. Both Sony and MS seemed to have been influenced by Nintendo's approach when making these machines. They didn't go as far as Nintendo does with that mindset, but were influenced by it nonetheless.

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@1080pOnly said:
@acp_45 said:
@jhonMalcovich said:

Recently I was thinking of buying PS4, but I just couldn't bring myself to do it. I am PC gamer, so assess consoles by their exclusive lineup. So far, the only PS4 exclusive that interests me is Bloodborne. I had tried to think of something else interesting and currently available on PS4, and I couldn't come up with anything. Seriously guys, what the hell, compared to PS3 PS4 sucks balls. Yeh I know that Last Guardian, Uncharted 4, and Horizon are coming probably next year. The thing is, I did math in my head and was shocked how slowly exclusives are being released this Gen. I mean, cool Uncharted 4 is coming next year, but when Uncharted 5 is scheduled to be released ? In 2018 or something ? Isn't it when the current Gen basically ends ?

On PS3 we had had Uncharted 1,2,3 and Last of Us all in one Gen.

What is the deal with PS4 ? We will only have ONE single Uncharted this Gen, and for Uncharted 5 you will have to buy PS5, is it ?

So what is the reason to buy PS4 then, if at best we are going to have only 6 worthy exclusives for the entire Gen. And right now there is like only ONE noteworthy exclusive, Bloodborne. This is it.

This post sucks.

A gen lasts for roughly 7-8 years..

Usually a game like Uncharted takes 2 years. You wanting them to come in faster is ridiculous and makes me question your age. Humans can only jump so high remember. You just basically asked a human to jump over a 2 story building. Why ?

2 Years to make, 8 hours to complete, 2 days till you're selling it 2nd hand.

The dirty truth of Sony's first party.

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@ConanTheStoner said:
@jhonMalcovich said:

So what is the reason to buy PS4 then

Decent enough versions of multiplats on relatively inexpensive hardware and the odd exclusive here and there... or just Bloodborne.

Probably seems like an awesome console if you don't own a PC.

As of right now I have only a few reasons to hold on to my PS4.

-Bloodborne.

-Persona 5 (the 5th entry in a series I've never tried, but wiling to give it a shot.) - DONT CARE

-Dragon Quest XI (admittedly boring games at times, but I still managed to get hooked.) - DONT CARE

- The Last Guardian (development hell - the game. Just hoping for the best.) - DONT CARE

- Uncharted 4 (Never really cared for these games, but willing to check it out.) - Meh, another movie rail game

And damn. I really thought I had more to look forward to than that. Probably forgetting something, but yeah, slim pickings either way. It's all perspective though. As a console, the PS4 is doing its job and doing it well. It just so happens that having boat loads of exclusives is quickly becoming a relic and having a PC negates the majority of the PS4/Xbone libraries.

It is what it is bra.

So yeah, I agree with OP.. Consoles suck today and PS4 has 0 exclusives worth waiting for.

waste of 400 dollars.