GOWIII deserved a 9 as much as ODST did.

Im pretty sure Bioshock is just riling (spelling?) you all up, so maybe if you just stop, he will stop.

You guys just feeding him more is making it worse.

Im pretty sure Bioshock is just riling (spelling?) you all up, so maybe if you just stop, he will stop.

You guys just feeding him more is making it worse.

I've already stated why I think neither games deserve the praise. GOWIII is not a complete package, it's too short, it's basically the same exact game as GOWII, and there's no real replay value. It's a rental. Yeah I'm sure the campaign is an epic ride, but it's forgettable, no lasting appeal. Was this really the way to end the series?peanutbudduh

Didn't you state you'd only played the demo?

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"]I've already stated why I think neither games deserve the praise. GOWIII is not a complete package, it's too short, it's basically the same exact game as GOWII, and there's no real replay value. It's a rental. Yeah I'm sure the campaign is an epic ride, but it's forgettable, no lasting appeal. Was this really the way to end the series?lundy86_4

Didn't you state you'd only played the demo?

can this thread stop now? :)

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"]I've already stated why I think neither games deserve the praise. GOWIII is not a complete package, it's too short, it's basically the same exact game as GOWII, and there's no real replay value. It's a rental. Yeah I'm sure the campaign is an epic ride, but it's forgettable, no lasting appeal. Was this really the way to end the series?lundy86_4

Didn't you state you'd only played the demo?

You can just play the demos and it means you played the complete package?

great!

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"]I've already stated why I think neither games deserve the praise. GOWIII is not a complete package, it's too short, it's basically the same exact game as GOWII, and there's no real replay value. It's a rental. Yeah I'm sure the campaign is an epic ride, but it's forgettable, no lasting appeal. Was this really the way to end the series?peanutbudduh

Didn't you state you'd only played the demo?

8 regular hours......$40

8 EPIC HOURS wirth some of the best graphics......$60

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"]I've already stated why I think neither games deserve the praise. GOWIII is not a complete package, it's too short, it's basically the same exact game as GOWII, and there's no real replay value. It's a rental. Yeah I'm sure the campaign is an epic ride, but it's forgettable, no lasting appeal. Was this really the way to end the series?peanutbudduh

Didn't you state you'd only played the demo?

You said, and I state:

"GOWIII is not a complete package"

"it's basically the same exact game as GOWII"

"and there's no real replay value"

"It's a rental"

"but it's forgettable, no lasting appeal."

"Was this really the way to end the series?"

Each of these seem to imply that you've played the game, when you have not.

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Didn't you state you'd only played the demo?

caligamer

8 regular hours......$40

8 EPIC HOURS wirth some of the best graphics......$60

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Didn't you state you'd only played the demo?

lundy86_4

You said, and I state:

"GOWIII is not a complete package"

"it's basically the same exact game as GOWII"

"and there's no real replay value"

"It's a rental"

"but it's forgettable, no lasting appeal."

"Was this really the way to end the series?"

Each of these seem to imply that you've played the game, when you have not.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"]I've already stated why I think neither games deserve the praise. GOWIII is not a complete package, it's too short, it's basically the same exact game as GOWII, and there's no real replay value. It's a rental. Yeah I'm sure the campaign is an epic ride, but it's forgettable, no lasting appeal. Was this really the way to end the series?peanutbudduh

Didn't you state you'd only played the demo?

My first play through on Titan Mode was 11 and a half hours and I've already spent well over 20 hours on the game since Tuesday. How about you play the game first before you start whining and moaning about how its "not worth it". If you think that, then just don't get the game. Obviously you like rehashed multiplayer much more than one of the greatest SP player experiences in all of gaming

GoW3 is more in the 8.5 range. ODST is more of a 10+.

GoW3 is fun, but it's not AAA stuff.

BioShockOwnz

bzzzzzt! incorrect.

did you not see the score? here's a link.

I'm just stating facts.

ODST at its core is like a 4 hour campaign isn't it? All the other stuff is based around OTHER games, not ODST itself. 110million

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Didn't you state you'd only played the demo?

BPoole96

My first play through on Titan Mode was 11 and a half hours and I've already spent well over 20 hours on the game since Tuesday. How about you play the game first before you start whining and moaning about how its "not worth it". If you think that, then just don't get the game. Obviously you like rehashed multiplayer much more than one of the greatest SP player experiences in all of gaming

[QUOTE="caligamer"]

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"] I don't see how that changes the facts. 8 hour campaign is not worth $60.peanutbudduh

8 regular hours......$40

8 EPIC HOURS wirth some of the best graphics......$60

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I saw many posts where even 360 fans agreed that GOW3 was well worth the 9.0 and $60, while ODST was not

Im pretty sure Bioshock is just riling (spelling?) you all up, so maybe if you just stop, he will stop.

You guys just feeding him more is making it worse.

h575309

of course he is. clearly he was upset by the score and can't let it go, whatever works though ya know?

on top of that D.I. failed miserably and so people expected GOW3 to flop too since D.I. is so similar (a ripoff, except it sucked)

btw he gave dantes inferno a 9.0

and then admitted that D.I. is not on Gow3's level, so clearly he thinks it's well above AAA worthiness. that's being a bit generous, coming from a guy who hates on almost every ps3 exclusive recently.

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"][QUOTE="KratosTwin"]

And God of War 3 has not been out for a full week yet.

caligamer

OKay even if you want to compare over the same time period

Halo 3.......7.5 Million

ODST........4.7 Milllion

Plus there were more 360 systems sold when ODST came out, so more consumers that could of bought ODST but decided not to.

SO 2.8 Milllion "halo" fans decided it was not worth it

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"]I've already stated why I think neither games deserve the praise. GOWIII is not a complete package, it's too short, it's basically the same exact game as GOWII, and there's no real replay value. It's a rental. Yeah I'm sure the campaign is an epic ride, but it's forgettable, no lasting appeal. Was this really the way to end the series?blue_hazy_basic

Didn't you state you'd only played the demo?

can this thread stop now? :)

LOL, the ownage police have been here since the first page of this thread. TC's fail logic was exposed from the start.

LOL ODST was just an expansion with a 4-5 hour campaign and minor graphical improvements and little bit added on to multiplayer department.

GOW3 was a 10 hour campaign and was very well crafted, in everything from combat to graphics, the story i thought was good but not great. and Im definently gonna play through it again down the road.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"] I don't see how that changes the facts. 8 hour campaign is not worth $60.peanutbudduh

You said, and I state:

"GOWIII is not a complete package"

"it's basically the same exact game as GOWII"

"and there's no real replay value"

"It's a rental"

"but it's forgettable, no lasting appeal."

"Was this really the way to end the series?"

Each of these seem to imply that you've played the game, when you have not.

So basically, you've got nothing. I think you've been sufficiently owned in this thread.

Try forming your own opinon of something, rather than taking it at the words of somebody else. It'll help out lots, when you try to pass things off as fact.

[QUOTE="caligamer"]

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"] I doubt it will even surpass what ODST has reached in less than a year. GOWIII won't even surpass that in PS3's lifespan.SilentlyMad

OKay even if you want to compare over the same time period

Halo 3.......7.5 Million

ODST........4.7 Milllion

Plus there were more 360 systems sold when ODST came out, so more consumers that could of bought ODST but decided not to.

SO 2.8 Milllion "halo" fans decided it was not worth it

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

You said, and I state:

"GOWIII is not a complete package"

"it's basically the same exact game as GOWII"

"and there's no real replay value"

"It's a rental"

"but it's forgettable, no lasting appeal."

"Was this really the way to end the series?"

Each of these seem to imply that you've played the game, when you have not.

lundy86_4

So basically, you've got nothing. I think you've been sufficiently owned in this thread.

Try forming your own opinon of something, rather than taking it at the words of somebody else. It'll help out lots, when you try to pass things off as fact.

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Yeah, GoW 3 was as good as a "4-5 hour expansion".

GoW3 = 9

ODST = 9

BioShockOwnz

We're on Gamespot. Metacritic has no weight here.

[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]

[QUOTE="caligamer"]

OKay even if you want to compare over the same time period

Halo 3.......7.5 Million

ODST........4.7 Milllion

Plus there were more 360 systems sold when ODST came out, so more consumers that could of bought ODST but decided not to.

SO 2.8 Milllion "halo" fans decided it was not worth it

jerkface96

Also :lol: at you saying I make no sense when your post had nothing to do what I even said.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"] Just going by what other people have said that have played the game. I can also make that judgement on playing the demo. The game is basically GOW2.5.peanutbudduh

So basically, you've got nothing. I think you've been sufficiently owned in this thread.

Try forming your own opinon of something, rather than taking it at the words of somebody else. It'll help out lots, when you try to pass things off as fact.

[QUOTE="jerkface96"][QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]Do you understand how many devs would LOVE for their game to sell like what odst did? Wow I can not believe your damage control is so out of control you are acting like 4.7 mil is bad. What GoW has sold more then that? Do not bother looking because we all know already none of them have.

SilentlyMad

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"] Just going by what other people have said that have played the game. I can also make that judgement on playing the demo. The game is basically GOW2.5.peanutbudduh

So basically, you've got nothing. I think you've been sufficiently owned in this thread.

Try forming your own opinon of something, rather than taking it at the words of somebody else. It'll help out lots, when you try to pass things off as fact.

I know the meaning of many words thanks very much. However, you have failed to prove anything that is not simply your own opinion. You dodged my response *twice* about who decides how much content is enough content, as I said there is no universally fair way to measure.

Are you saying I can determine the quality of a games story from a demo? Determine the extent of combat mechanics, and gameplay evolution from a demo? If you are, I suggest you give up now, as that makes so little sense it's quite honestly astounding.

GOWIII demo was proven to be of an old build of the game, so how is that not substantially different from the final product. **** I forgot, devs just sit around and twiddle their thumbs for the last year of dev time :o

Link to a Digital Foundry comparison of the GOWIII demo vs final build.

"Bearing in mind just how much of a visual upgrade the game has had, it's impressive that the improvements do not restrict themselves simply to visual quality. Sony Santa Monica has achieved all of this while creating a faster, smoother game. In this video we have several different clips taken from a playthrough of the God of War III demo. These have then been matched with action taken from the same areas in the review copy of the game."

I'm not just basing it on the demo. If anyone has played the demo, they will get a gist of how the full game plays...which is exactly like how GOWII did.

[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]

[QUOTE="caligamer"]

OKay even if you want to compare over the same time period

Halo 3.......7.5 Million

ODST........4.7 Milllion

Plus there were more 360 systems sold when ODST came out, so more consumers that could of bought ODST but decided not to.

SO 2.8 Milllion "halo" fans decided it was not worth it

jerkface96

4.7 is great for a regular game not for halo games......

I dont think sales matter BUT i think it shows how ODST was not as worth the money as GOW3 is

We cant really compare GOW3 sales to Gow2 but im pretty sure the difference will be smaller

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

You said, and I state:

"GOWIII is not a complete package"

"it's basically the same exact game as GOWII"

"and there's no real replay value"

"It's a rental"

"but it's forgettable, no lasting appeal."

"Was this really the way to end the series?"

Each of these seem to imply that you've played the game, when you have not.

So basically, you've got nothing. I think you've been sufficiently owned in this thread.

Try forming your own opinon of something, rather than taking it at the words of somebody else. It'll help out lots, when you try to pass things off as fact.

I'm not just basing it on the demo. If anyone has played the demo, they will get a gist of how the full game plays...which is exactly like how GOWII did.

peanutbudduh

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"] Well he said most, so a 93 meta beats an 83 meta.jerkface96

We're on Gamespot. Metacritic has no weight here.

he knows it and has admitted it himself. I think he's purposefully showing his bias right now, in order to troll. pretty pathetic.

[QUOTE="jerkface96"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

We're on Gamespot. Metacritic has no weight here.

Phaze-Two

he knows it and has admitted it himself. I think he's purposefully showing his bias right now, in order to troll. pretty pathetic.

I can't believe cows are actually argueing in favor of GoW :lol: It doesn't even sell anywhere near Halo!

I'm not just basing it on the demo. If anyone has played the demo, they will get a gist of how the full game plays...which is exactly like how GOWII did.

peanutbudduh

I just proved to you, albeit after you posted this, why you would not get the full feel of the game based on the demo. It's an in depth Digital Foundry comparison, and they are proven to be excellent at it.

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

So basically, you've got nothing. I think you've been sufficiently owned in this thread.

Try forming your own opinon of something, rather than taking it at the words of somebody else. It'll help out lots, when you try to pass things off as fact.

lundy86_4

I know the meaning of many words thanks very much. However, you have failed to prove anything that is not simply your own opinion. You dodged my response *twice* about who decides how much content is enough content, as I said there is no universally fair way to measure.

Are you saying I can determine the quality of a games story from a demo? Determine the extent of combat mechanics, and gameplay evolution from a demo? If you are, I suggest you give up now, as that makes so little sense it's quite honestly astounding.

GOWIII demo was proven to be of an old build of the game, so how is that not substantially different from the final product. **** I forgot, devs just sit around and twiddle their thumbs for the last year of dev time :o

[QUOTE="Phaze-Two"]

[QUOTE="jerkface96"] o be quiet, Total reviews and an average , compared to just one review has more weight and you know it, but system wars has some sort of gamespot forcefield, where everyone is in denial, that most sony games score better than they think they should. jerkface96

he knows it and has admitted it himself. I think he's purposefully showing his bias right now, in order to troll. pretty pathetic.

laugh, and then feel pity.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"] Just going by what other people have said that have played the game. I can also make that judgement on playing the demo. The game is basically GOW2.5.2mrw

So basically, you've got nothing. I think you've been sufficiently owned in this thread.

Try forming your own opinon of something, rather than taking it at the words of somebody else. It'll help out lots, when you try to pass things off as fact.

I also just proved how the final build is different from the demo build, where he can supposedly get a "full" feel for the game :lol:

LOL ODST was just an expansion with a 4-5 hour campaign and minor graphical improvements and little bit added on to multiplayer department.

GOW3 was a 10 hour campaign and was very well crafted, in everything from combat to graphics, the story i thought was good but not great. and Im definently gonna play through it again down the road.

jerkface96

I didn't plan on posting in this thread, but I had to because of your sig/avy :D. One of my top movies of last year lol. Also, I agree with what you said.

[QUOTE="Ringx55"]ODST deserved AApeanutbudduh

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"][QUOTE="Ringx55"]ODST deserved AAInfinite_Access

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"] You honestly don't know the meaning of the word if you really think that's ownage. "YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED THE FULL GAME TO HAVE ANY SUBSTANTIAL OPINION ON IT BECAUSE THE FULL GAME IS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT!" Yeah right, I've heard that before for EVERY game. A demo is not entirely different than the full product, in fact it rarely even has minimal difference.peanutbudduh

I know the meaning of many words thanks very much. However, you have failed to prove anything that is not simply your own opinion. You dodged my response *twice* about who decides how much content is enough content, as I said there is no universally fair way to measure.

Are you saying I can determine the quality of a games story from a demo? Determine the extent of combat mechanics, and gameplay evolution from a demo? If you are, I suggest you give up now, as that makes so little sense it's quite honestly astounding.

GOWIII demo was proven to be of an old build of the game, so how is that not substantially different from the final product. **** I forgot, devs just sit around and twiddle their thumbs for the last year of dev time :o

Like I said, there's no universal way to determine it. As you're view of what is worth $60 is no doubt different from what mine is.

I proved why you couldn't get a full feel for the demo of GOWIII, considering it was an old build, vastly different in quality from the final build. Gameplay mechanics do magically change during development, and on top of that, GOWIII uses things like upgraded attacks like with GOW and GOWII, meaning again you don't get the full feel from a demo.

If it's unchanged, are you stating he uses the exactly the same attacks throughout the game, and that he doesn't unlock things like new combos?

You're making no sense here, as i'm putting forth, with proof and a good structure a perfectly valid argument.

[QUOTE="jerkface96"]

LOL ODST was just an expansion with a 4-5 hour campaign and minor graphical improvements and little bit added on to multiplayer department.

GOW3 was a 10 hour campaign and was very well crafted, in everything from combat to graphics, the story i thought was good but not great. and Im definently gonna play through it again down the road.

Episode_Eve

I didn't plan on posting in this thread, but I had to because of your sig/avy :D. One of my top movies of last year lol. Also, I agree with what you said.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"] You honestly don't know the meaning of the word if you really think that's ownage. "YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED THE FULL GAME TO HAVE ANY SUBSTANTIAL OPINION ON IT BECAUSE THE FULL GAME IS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT!" Yeah right, I've heard that before for EVERY game. A demo is not entirely different than the full product, in fact it rarely even has minimal difference.peanutbudduh

I know the meaning of many words thanks very much. However, you have failed to prove anything that is not simply your own opinion. You dodged my response *twice* about who decides how much content is enough content, as I said there is no universally fair way to measure.

Are you saying I can determine the quality of a games story from a demo? Determine the extent of combat mechanics, and gameplay evolution from a demo? If you are, I suggest you give up now, as that makes so little sense it's quite honestly astounding.

GOWIII demo was proven to be of an old build of the game, so how is that not substantially different from the final product. **** I forgot, devs just sit around and twiddle their thumbs for the last year of dev time :o

[QUOTE="jerkface96"][QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]Do you understand how many devs would LOVE for their game to sell like what odst did? Wow I can not believe your damage control is so out of control you are acting like 4.7 mil is bad. What GoW has sold more then that? Do not bother looking because we all know already none of them have.

SilentlyMad

Also :lol: at you saying I make no sense when your post had nothing to do what I even said.

4.7 Million is actually bad for a full $60 Halo game...even though it might be a record for other series

if Halo reach sold 5-6 million wouldnt you consider that "bad"

[QUOTE="Infinite_Access"][QUOTE="peanutbudduh"] Just like GOWIII, I know.peanutbudduh

There are many facepalm worthy moments in this thread, but this one takes the cake! lmao!

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

I know the meaning of many words thanks very much. However, you have failed to prove anything that is not simply your own opinion. You dodged my response *twice* about who decides how much content is enough content, as I said there is no universally fair way to measure.

Are you saying I can determine the quality of a games story from a demo? Determine the extent of combat mechanics, and gameplay evolution from a demo? If you are, I suggest you give up now, as that makes so little sense it's quite honestly astounding.

GOWIII demo was proven to be of an old build of the game, so how is that not substantially different from the final product. **** I forgot, devs just sit around and twiddle their thumbs for the last year of dev time :o

lundy86_4

Like I said, there's no universal way to determine it. As you're view of what is worth $60 is no doubt different from what mine is.

I proved why you couldn't get a full feel for the demo of GOWIII, considering it was an old build, vastly different in quality from the final build. Gameplay mechanics do magically change during development, and on top of that, GOWIII uses things like upgraded attacks like with GOW and GOWII, meaning again you don't get the full feel from a demo.

If it's unchanged, are you stating he uses the exactly the same attacks throughout the game, and that he doesn't unlock things like new combos?

You're making no sense here, as i'm putting forth, with proof and a good structure a perfectly valid argument.