Gran Turismo 5 will have WRC and NASCAR, what will Forza 3 have?

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#1 10thwonder
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I own a 360, but I saw a preview for GT5, specifically the WRC portion and started drooling, I miss rally games. Will FM3 have rally racing? And does FM3 have any specific racing style/championship that GT5 won't have?

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it will have the luxery of coming out in the next year. plus customation.

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I heard it has better backgrounds, but then that doesn't really help the gameplay.

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SUV's for all the soccer moms out there. I'm surprised they didn't add vans aswell. I wouldn't mind racing a Dodge Caravan.

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#5 PBSnipes
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Off the top of my head:

  • Livery editor
  • Deeper tuning options
  • Second-to-none online community
  • Leaderboards for all disciplines (ie racers, painters and tuners)
  • Superior physics engine
  • Porsche and Lamborghini licenses

And most importantly:

  • A release date
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better gameplay, bigger online community

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#7 Rza_rectah
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better gameplay, bigger online community

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and you statments are based on? Especially the bigger online community ill like to know about that one.
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FM3 won't have any licenses other than the ones they already have/had from the start.....You know.....The most iconic... technology driven brands such asFerrari..... Porsche.....Lamborghini...

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Forza 3 has a release date. That's a significant advantage over GT5 no matter what if you ask me.

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#10 EG101
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Sounds like GT5 may become a "jack of all trades master of none" if PD doesn't keep their focus on what the GT fans really want.

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Quality + Quantity > Quantity
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[QUOTE="xxyetixx"]

better gameplay, bigger online community

Rza_rectah
and you statments are based on? Especially the bigger online community ill like to know about that one.

Imagination, lemmings have a wild imagination. Remember the Halo Reach is the new graphics king thread?
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#13 gensigns
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A release this year.

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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="xxyetixx"]

better gameplay, bigger online community

RedruM_I
and you statments are based on? Especially the bigger online community ill like to know about that one.

Imagination, lemmings have a wild imagination. Remember the Halo Reach is the new graphics king thread?

Forza has one of the largest and most active online communities of any racing game. Ever. No doubt Forza 3 will continue that trend.
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[QUOTE="RedruM_I"][QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] and you statments are based on? Especially the bigger online community ill like to know about that one.The_Game21x
Imagination, lemmings have a wild imagination. Remember the Halo Reach is the new graphics king thread?

Forza has one of the largest and most active online communities of any racing game. Ever. No doubt Forza 3 will continue that trend.

The GT franchise has a larger fan base and PS has free online. Forza 2 didnt have any competition when it was released so i fail to see your point. He said it will have a bigger online but that fact is based on nothing. Since gt 5p is more of a beta then a game.

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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="RedruM_I"][QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] and you statments are based on? Especially the bigger online community ill like to know about that one.

Imagination, lemmings have a wild imagination. Remember the Halo Reach is the new graphics king thread?

Forza has one of the largest and most active online communities of any racing game. Ever. No doubt Forza 3 will continue that trend.

The new community features sound amazing.
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="RedruM_I"] Imagination, lemmings have a wild imagination. Remember the Halo Reach is the new graphics king thread?Rza_rectah

Forza has one of the largest and most active online communities of any racing game. Ever. No doubt Forza 3 will continue that trend.

The GT franchise has a larger fan base and PS has free online. Forza 2 didnt have any competition when it was released so i fail to see your point. He said it will have a bigger online but that fact is based on nothing. Since gt 5 is more of a beta then a game.

And? You go on GameFAQs, Tales of Vesperia is one of the most popular 360 games. What did that mean for its sales? Yeah...
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#18 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"] Forza has one of the largest and most active online communities of any racing game. Ever. No doubt Forza 3 will continue that trend.-Pred-Alien-

The GT franchise has a larger fan base and PS has free online. Forza 2 didnt have any competition when it was released so i fail to see your point. He said it will have a bigger online but that fact is based on nothing. Since gt 5 is more of a beta then a game.

And? You go on GameFAQs, Tales of Vesperia is one of the most popular 360 games. What did that mean for its sales? Yeah...

Sorry thats irrelvant fans actually purchase the game thats why they are fans am i right or wrong. I mean gt 5 p did 3.3 million in sales and thats not even a full game. Just because its the top of the list on gamefaqs that just means its a hard game so people need to refer to faqs to help then beat it. Thats why you usually see RPG's on the top of those lists or fighters. I beat you at the end of this gen zelda will be at the top of the wiis Gamefaqs list. FF 13 or 15 if thats this gen will be on the ps3's list and a Halo game will be on the 360s list. Those games will be followed by RPGS and other fighting games. Id say those lists are more or less based of the learning curve of those games.

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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="RedruM_I"] Imagination, lemmings have a wild imagination. Remember the Halo Reach is the new graphics king thread?Rza_rectah

Forza has one of the largest and most active online communities of any racing game. Ever. No doubt Forza 3 will continue that trend.

The GT franchise has a larger fan base and PS has free online. Forza 2 didnt have any competition when it was released so i fail to see your point. He said it will have a bigger online but that fact is based on nothing. Since gt 5p is more of a beta then a game.

The PSN having free online doesn't make much of a difference because it hasn't in the past. The 360 still tends to have more active online communities.

We don't even know if GT5's online will be good enough to foster the growth of a larger community. If it's anything like GT5: Prologue's system, it's going to be terrible. While I don't think GT5 will be as bad as Prologue was in regards to its online play, this is something Japanese developers have typically struggled with in the past so it's pretty safe to assume that Forza 3 will be better than GT5 in that respect, at least until we see what Polyphony has been working on in that area.

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[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"][QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] The GT franchise has a larger fan base and PS has free online. Forza 2 didnt have any competition when it was released so i fail to see your point. He said it will have a bigger online but that fact is based on nothing. Since gt 5 is more of a beta then a game.

Rza_rectah

And? You go on GameFAQs, Tales of Vesperia is one of the most popular 360 games. What did that mean for its sales? Yeah...

Sorry thats irrelvant fans actually purchase the game thats why they are fans am i right or wrong. I mean gt 5 p did 3.3 million in sales and thats not even a full game. Just because its the top of the list on gamefaqs that just means its a hard game so people need to refer to faqs to help then beat it. Thats why you usually see RPG's on the top of those lists.

Err no, the difference is, Tales games are VERY niche, and niche gamers tend to be hardcore gamers who visit msg boards. Just because the game sold well doesnt mean that those people are dedicated gamers. Just ask how many of those people actually think GT games in the past were realistic:?

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#21 The__Havoc
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A release date :|

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#22 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"]

Forza has one of the largest and most active online communities of any racing game. Ever. No doubt Forza 3 will continue that trend.The_Game21x
The GT franchise has a larger fan base and PS has free online. Forza 2 didnt have any competition when it was released so i fail to see your point. He said it will have a bigger online but that fact is based on nothing. Since gt 5p is more of a beta then a game.

The PSN having free online doesn't make much of a difference because it hasn't in the past. The 360 still tends to have more active online communities.

We don't even know if GT5's online will be good enough to foster the growth of a larger community. If it's anything like GT5: Prologue's system, it's going to be terrible. While I don't think GT5 will be as bad as Prologue was in regards to its online play, this is something Japanese developers have typically struggled with in the past so it's pretty safe to assume that Forza 3 will be better than GT5 in that respect, at least until we see what Polyphony has been working on in that area.

There is always that possibility so he shouldnt rule that out. And since the online is free more users who arent that active in online will be able to participate within that game. Your right very little is known about gt 5 in comparison to forza 3. But if the online is even close to forza's ill tell you this right now GT will have a bigger online thats based on the fans of the series thats not based off of nothing.
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tbh IDC about nascar or rally racing, I care about the cuztomization the most. The only thing GT has that I wish were in FOrza 3 is rain.

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#24 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]And? You go on GameFAQs, Tales of Vesperia is one of the most popular 360 games. What did that mean for its sales? Yeah...-Pred-Alien-

Sorry thats irrelvant fans actually purchase the game thats why they are fans am i right or wrong. I mean gt 5 p did 3.3 million in sales and thats not even a full game. Just because its the top of the list on gamefaqs that just means its a hard game so people need to refer to faqs to help then beat it. Thats why you usually see RPG's on the top of those lists.

Err no, the difference is, Tales games are VERY niche, and niche gamers tend to be hardcore gamers who visit msg boards. Just because the game sold well doesnt mean that those people are dedicated gamers. Just ask how many of those people actually think GT games in the past were realistic:?

I never said anything about dedicated gamers bud. Its the games that need faqs that make the top of those list take a look at the legacy platforms and tell me if you dont see and fighting games or Rpgs at the top or a zelda for the nintendo systems.

Halo 2 was the biggest seller on the xbox1 but why is KOTOR 2 on the top of that list your arguement is invalid we are talking about GT and Forza anyways not GameFaqs.

EDIT: Scratch that i see that you were referring to my fan base point yes you are right a lot of games have fan bases and your point is still irrelevant.

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Have you been living under a rock?
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LOL @ "a release date". Poly is really leaving Sony fans open to that one, especially if they don't cough up the cash to buy out EA a few months early.
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FM3 won't have any licenses other than the ones they already have/had from the start.....You know.....The most iconic... technology driven brands such asFerrari..... Porsche.....Lamborghini...

masiisam
Yeah, I remeber GT4 didnt have that, and that really bothered me.
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[QUOTE="masiisam"]

FM3 won't have any licenses other than the ones they already have/had from the start.....You know.....The most iconic... technology driven brands such asFerrari..... Porsche.....Lamborghini...

bronxxbombers

Yeah, I remeber GT4 didnt have that, and that really bothered me.

So there are absolutely no Lambos, Porsches, or Ferraris in GT5?

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#29 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="10thwonder"]

[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"][QUOTE="masiisam"]

FM3 won't have any licenses other than the ones they already have/had from the start.....You know.....The most iconic... technology driven brands such asFerrari..... Porsche.....Lamborghini...

Yeah, I remeber GT4 didnt have that, and that really bothered me.

So there are absolutely no Lambos, Porsches, or Ferraris in GT5?

there are ferraris but no Lambos or Porsches which kinda sucks.
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Suvs ramming into mini coppers

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I heard it has better backgrounds, but then that doesn't really help the gameplay.

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Good thing Forza excels in that area eh?
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[QUOTE="10thwonder"]

[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"] Yeah, I remeber GT4 didnt have that, and that really bothered me.Rza_rectah

So there are absolutely no Lambos, Porsches, or Ferraris in GT5?

there are ferraris but no Lambos or Porsches which kinda sucks.

How can the so called real driving sim not even include two huge car makers:(

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I like that GT4 had allot of strange cars like a 19th century car(I think it was a Ford), Jay Leno's tank car, a Nike futuristic concept car and allot of collector cars.It was awesome.

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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] The GT franchise has a larger fan base and PS has free online. Forza 2 didnt have any competition when it was released so i fail to see your point. He said it will have a bigger online but that fact is based on nothing. Since gt 5p is more of a beta then a game.

The PSN having free online doesn't make much of a difference because it hasn't in the past. The 360 still tends to have more active online communities.

We don't even know if GT5's online will be good enough to foster the growth of a larger community. If it's anything like GT5: Prologue's system, it's going to be terrible. While I don't think GT5 will be as bad as Prologue was in regards to its online play, this is something Japanese developers have typically struggled with in the past so it's pretty safe to assume that Forza 3 will be better than GT5 in that respect, at least until we see what Polyphony has been working on in that area.

There is always that possibility so he shouldnt rule that out. And since the online is free more users who arent that active in online will be able to participate within that game. Your right very little is known about gt 5 in comparison to forza 3. But if the online is even close to forza's ill tell you this right now GT will have a bigger online thats based on the fans of the series thats not based off of nothing.

I dont think so. Games such as KZ2 and R2, are great games, but they already have small and still shrinking online communities compared to games such as Halo 3, that was releases 2 years ago. I think XBLG has more people then PSN.
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forza is a failsauce for not having NASCAR first
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And most importantly:

  • A release date
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Beat me to it......:( [spoiler] it also has damage [/spoiler]
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TBH i dont think that GT5 will beat Forza 3 until they fix those bumpercar physics. seriously, altho it makes it ezier for noob s to just rickashae of things, its not ver realistic is it now?:( Too bad forza isnt coming to PC. **** Microsoft for deserting the pc :evil:

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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

The PSN having free online doesn't make much of a difference because it hasn't in the past. The 360 still tends to have more active online communities.

We don't even know if GT5's online will be good enough to foster the growth of a larger community. If it's anything like GT5: Prologue's system, it's going to be terrible. While I don't think GT5 will be as bad as Prologue was in regards to its online play, this is something Japanese developers have typically struggled with in the past so it's pretty safe to assume that Forza 3 will be better than GT5 in that respect, at least until we see what Polyphony has been working on in that area.

bronxxbombers

There is always that possibility so he shouldnt rule that out. And since the online is free more users who arent that active in online will be able to participate within that game. Your right very little is known about gt 5 in comparison to forza 3. But if the online is even close to forza's ill tell you this right now GT will have a bigger online thats based on the fans of the series thats not based off of nothing.

I dont think so. Games such as KZ2 and R2, are great games, but they already have small and still shrinking online communities compared to games such as Halo 3, that was releases 2 years ago. I think XBLG has more people then PSN.

What? GAMES? Only halo has such a big community, there are other games on the market. I kinow what u mean by that resistance 2 and kz 2 are fps but still u cant just say they have a smaller community to a gaming phenomenon which was marketed 10000 times more than both those games put together. Yes we all know Halo has a big community but u guys have to notice that its the ONLY game that has such a big community after 2 years. P.S i am solely talking about consoles.

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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="RedruM_I"] Imagination, lemmings have a wild imagination. Remember the Halo Reach is the new graphics king thread?Rza_rectah

Forza has one of the largest and most active online communities of any racing game. Ever. No doubt Forza 3 will continue that trend.

The GT franchise has a larger fan base and PS has free online. Forza 2 didnt have any competition when it was released so i fail to see your point. He said it will have a bigger online but that fact is based on nothing. Since gt 5p is more of a beta then a game.

free online didnt stop XBL hammering PSN on the BF 1943 race to 43 million kills
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With all of the tuning features in Forza 3. Online drag races are going to be insane!
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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"][QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] There is always that possibility so he shouldnt rule that out. And since the online is free more users who arent that active in online will be able to participate within that game. Your right very little is known about gt 5 in comparison to forza 3. But if the online is even close to forza's ill tell you this right now GT will have a bigger online thats based on the fans of the series thats not based off of nothing.killa4lyfe

I dont think so. Games such as KZ2 and R2, are great games, but they already have small and still shrinking online communities compared to games such as Halo 3, that was releases 2 years ago. I think XBLG has more people then PSN.

What? GAMES? Only halo has such a big community, there are other games on the market. I kinow what u mean by that resistance 2 and kz 2 are fps but still u cant just say they have a smaller community to a gaming phenomenon which was marketed 10000 times more than both those games put together. Yes we all know Halo has a big community but u guys have to notice that its the ONLY game that has such a big community after 2 years. P.S i am solely talking about consoles.

Okay then, Forza 2 apparently still has a great online community. In fact, CoD 3 still has an online community on the 360. And I know that R2 and KZ2 could never compete with Halo at launch, but its been 2 YEARS since Halo releases and less then half a year for R2 and KZ2.
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ROCKET SHIP and DINOSAUR RACING!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Off the top of my head:

  • Livery editor
  • Deeper tuning options
  • Second-to-none online community
  • Leaderboards for all disciplines (ie racers, painters and tuners)
  • Superior physics engine
  • Porsche and Lamborghini licenses

And most importantly:

  • A release date

PBSnipes

And THIS is why GT doesn't even come close to Forza.

forza is a failsauce for not having NASCAR firstsethman410

And what would that make GT for not having Ferrari first? Mega Failtacular? ;)

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#44 Camer999
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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"][QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] There is always that possibility so he shouldnt rule that out. And since the online is free more users who arent that active in online will be able to participate within that game. Your right very little is known about gt 5 in comparison to forza 3. But if the online is even close to forza's ill tell you this right now GT will have a bigger online thats based on the fans of the series thats not based off of nothing.killa4lyfe

I dont think so. Games such as KZ2 and R2, are great games, but they already have small and still shrinking online communities compared to games such as Halo 3, that was releases 2 years ago. I think XBLG has more people then PSN.

What? GAMES? Only halo has such a big community, there are other games on the market. I kinow what u mean by that resistance 2 and kz 2 are fps but still u cant just say they have a smaller community to a gaming phenomenon which was marketed 10000 times more than both those games put together. Yes we all know Halo has a big community but u guys have to notice that its the ONLY game that has such a big community after 2 years. P.S i am solely talking about consoles.

GEOW 2 and COD, also ranbow 6 vegas, those are the games with hardcore and large communites

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#45 rybe1025
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Forza adds customization that puts GT to shame. That is yet another way Forza dusts GT. When will GT allow players to express themselves like this and the answer is never. Also this is just Forza 2 cars and even though this dusts anything GT has just imagine how much better Forza 3 will be.

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#46 VendettaRed07
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it will have the luxery of coming out in the next year. plus customation.

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bam, I honestly think im going to choose Forza simply because its coming out this year and isnt taking FOREVER like GT5

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A better gameplay experience and better online community.

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tires that can bend.....HAHAHA...im to jokes these dayz 8)

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You know... just because its in the target render trailer doesn't mean its going to make the final product. Secondly, since whe does having WRC rally cars and NASCAR racing cars mean they are having an actual racing league associated with the licenses?

And since when does having two types of racing cars beat out massive customization for tuning and painting, completely dynamic career mode, a physics engine that rivals PC sims, has enough new features to call this an entirely new series and comes out in less than three months. before GT5 even gets actual gameplay footage.

Sorry GT fanboys... but Forza is now that king... and has been since the first iteration came out on the Xbox.

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You know... just because its in the target render trailer doesn't mean its going to make the final product. Secondly, since whe does having WRC rally cars and NASCAR racing cars mean they are having an actual racing league associated with the licenses?

And since when does having two types of racing cars beat out massive customization for tuning and painting, completely dynamic career mode, a physics engine that rivals PC sims, has enough new features to call this an entirely new series and comes out in less than three months. before GT5 even gets actual gameplay footage.

Sorry GT fanboys... but Forza is now that king... and has been since the first iteration came out on the Xbox.

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Fox, you never fail to deliver :)