Gran Turismo Sport is the best looking racing game. Period.

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#451 AzatiS
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I couldnt care less if its the best looking race game ever if you ask me. This genre is not about graphics alone that will give you a way different experience like others genres would if their graphics are top notch.

Besides you cant take your eyes off of road nor graphics will matter that much after few minutes when youll get used to them. GT needs to provide many more things than graphics imho. If they do PLUS graphics are top notch , then that will be fantastic. If not , graphics alone in this specific genre .. wont save the day

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@AzatiS: well in that reguard it is the most customizable GT to date. So far we know:

300+ cars, all cars are premium, all cars have detailed race variants of some sort including N100,N200,N300,GR2,GR3,GR4,LM,PT,D, some cars have rally variants.

In depth livery editor/paint rgb slider/image loader.<- interesting.

Dyno/wind tunnel/real time tuning. <- can adjust tune while driving (it's in the beta but it's glitchy).

That alone makes it worth the purchase.

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#453  Edited By AzatiS
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@TorqueHappens08 said:

@AzatiS: well in that reguard it is the most customizable GT to date. So far we know:

300+ cars, all cars are premium, all cars have detailed race variants of some sort including N100,N200,N300,GR2,GR3,GR4,LM,PT,D, some cars have rally variants.

In depth livery editor/paint rgb slider/image loader.<- interesting.

Dyno/wind tunnel/real time tuning. <- can adjust tune while driving (it's in the beta but it's glitchy).

That alone makes it worth the purchase.

I hope it is , because as we saw last generation , photorealistic textures didnt do the job. Im not saying it wont be a great game nor that GTs in general are not good . But better photorealistic graphics than competition at this point for this specific game under this specific genre is not something that matters the most to me since most racing games looks good enough already. My opinion ofc.

Lets see whats next !

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#454 shurns
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@dakur said:

@GameboyTroy: @xantufrog: Forza looks really cartoonish next to GTS.

To be honest, I "somewhat" agree with this. Forza always had good graphics, but it doesn't give a total photo-realistic look like the way GT does. GTS's lighting system seems to be the key here.

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#455  Edited By deactivated-60bf765068a74
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@TorqueHappens08: brah i just dunno if GT sport can match this

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#456  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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@ProtossRushX: to be fair, it really doesn't look like that (mind you I'm not playing at 4k Ultra). Not usually / in practice. The pre-race / post-race stuff like that looks pretty intense. In action it looks like my pics above. Sometimes the lighting, reflections, etc show off a bit more flare. When rain hits it's pleasurable to see the quality of the reflections emerge.

Here are a few more nice shots



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#457  Edited By asylumni
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@AzatiS said:
@TorqueHappens08 said:

@AzatiS: well in that reguard it is the most customizable GT to date. So far we know:

300+ cars, all cars are premium, all cars have detailed race variants of some sort including N100,N200,N300,GR2,GR3,GR4,LM,PT,D, some cars have rally variants.

In depth livery editor/paint rgb slider/image loader.<- interesting.

Dyno/wind tunnel/real time tuning. <- can adjust tune while driving (it's in the beta but it's glitchy).

That alone makes it worth the purchase.

I hope it is , because as we saw last generation , photorealistic textures didnt do the job. Im not saying it wont be a great game nor that GTs in general are not good . But better photorealistic graphics than competition at this point for this specific game under this specific genre is not something that matters the most to me since most racing games looks good enough already. My opinion ofc.

Lets see whats next !

VR! Time to find out who can really handle Laguna Seca's corkscrew.

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#458 AzatiS
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@asylumni said:
@AzatiS said:
@TorqueHappens08 said:

@AzatiS: well in that reguard it is the most customizable GT to date. So far we know:

300+ cars, all cars are premium, all cars have detailed race variants of some sort including N100,N200,N300,GR2,GR3,GR4,LM,PT,D, some cars have rally variants.

In depth livery editor/paint rgb slider/image loader.<- interesting.

Dyno/wind tunnel/real time tuning. <- can adjust tune while driving (it's in the beta but it's glitchy).

That alone makes it worth the purchase.

I hope it is , because as we saw last generation , photorealistic textures didnt do the job. Im not saying it wont be a great game nor that GTs in general are not good . But better photorealistic graphics than competition at this point for this specific game under this specific genre is not something that matters the most to me since most racing games looks good enough already. My opinion ofc.

Lets see whats next !

VR! Time to find out who can really handle Laguna Seca's corkscrew.

:)

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#459  Edited By GameboyTroy
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@xantufrog said:

@ProtossRushX: to be fair, it really doesn't look like that (mind you I'm not playing at 4k Ultra). Not usually / in practice. The pre-race / post-race stuff like that looks pretty intense. In action it looks like my pics above. Sometimes the lighting, reflections, etc show off a bit more flare. When rain hits it's pleasurable to see the quality of the reflections emerge.

Here are a few more nice shots

Okay, you win.

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#460 xantufrog  Moderator
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@GameboyTroy: I wasn't really taking a side - what I win!?!

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#461 GameboyTroy
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@xantufrog said:

@GameboyTroy: I wasn't really taking a side - what I win!?!

You won the thread with those shots.

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IMO Forza Horizon 3 is the best looking racing game. The level of detail for a open world racing game is insane. The crazy part is its running 1080p 4x msaa locked 30fps on xbox one.

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#464  Edited By deactivated-5a30e101a977c
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@cimbom1993: Yeah those images look insane. Can't wait to see what Scorpio can do with this engine

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#465 Dakur
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@cimbom1993: bullshots, xantufrog's pics from gameplay above are more accurate and they look nowhere near GTS.

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#466  Edited By xhawk27
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@dakur said:

@cimbom1993: bullshots, xantufrog's pics from gameplay above are more accurate and they look nowhere near GTS.

You sure are going to get Owned on June 11. Forza 7 running on the mighty Scorpio.

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#467 Dakur
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@xhawk27: they're talking about Forza Horizon 3 not Flopza 7. I haven't said anything about Flopza 7 yet because there's nothing to see yet. Lems, on the other hand, are owning themselves here by pretending they're blind.

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@dakur said:

@xhawk27: they're talking about Forza Horizon 3 not Flopza 7. I haven't said anything about Flopza 7 yet because there's nothing to see yet. Lems, on the other hand, are owning themselves here by pretending they're blind.

Only a month and half away from E3 to see who wins Best Looking Racer!

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@dakur said:

@cimbom1993: bullshots, xantufrog's pics from gameplay above are more accurate and they look nowhere near GTS.

Yeah because there's a lot of difference between screenshots, and replay videos... We've seen GT Sports in-game, it doesn't look remotely as good as FH3. When you look at the replay of GT Sports, then suddenly it looks better because they do a lot more rendering, and lighting again. Just like in these screenshots.

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#470 Dakur
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@FastRobby said:

We've seen GT Sports in-game, it doesn't look remotely as good as FH3.

GTS looks much better by far. Anyone with two eyes can see that.

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#471 deactivated-5a30e101a977c
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@dakur said:
@FastRobby said:

We've seen GT Sports in-game, it doesn't look remotely as good as FH3.

GTS looks much better by far. Anyone with two eyes can see that.

Like I said, in replay it looks very nice, but in-game not at all

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@dakur said:

@cimbom1993: bullshots, xantufrog's pics from gameplay above are more accurate and they look nowhere near GTS.

They are not bull-shots from PC version with max settings + MSAA 8X without dynamic settings.

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#473 Dakur
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@FastRobby said:
@dakur said:
@FastRobby said:

We've seen GT Sports in-game, it doesn't look remotely as good as FH3.

GTS looks much better by far. Anyone with two eyes can see that.

Like I said, in replay it looks very nice, but in-game not at all

Like I said, in game looks better than FH3 and anyone can see that on the videos here.

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@dakur said:

Like I said, in game looks better than FH3 and anyone can see that on the videos here.

Depends, if you say on Xbox One I agree. Obviously it will look better, it's not open world, and PS Pro is a more powerful console. But I actually believe that FH3 looks better on PC, that GT Sports on PS Pro. Subjective of course.

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#475  Edited By kvally
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@cimbom1993 said:

IMO Forza Horizon 3 is the best looking racing game. The level of detail for a open world racing game is insane. The crazy part is its running 1080p 4x msaa locked 30fps on xbox one.

Damn, that makes Gran Turismo Sport look like Pole Position.

GTS:

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@dakur: Bullshot? they are from Xbox one photomode. The photomode just adds texture filtering, supersampling and higher car lod like any other game does. So the PC version will look even better in gameplay than my shots.

here is a example

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#477  Edited By gamecubepad
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Watching gameplay videos of GTS and Forza games on PC look better. Bringing Forza to PC and Play Anywhere was a great move by MS. The game really shines on PC with latest and greatest hardware. There's a great deal of difference between the 7790 in the XO and a 4K Ultra experience on PC.

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After the latest update to 1.05, The game looks even better, sounds DRASTICALLY better. what iv'e noticed, the 2d sprite trees have been replaced with 3d model trees, the actual leaves on the trees reflect sun light(impressive) the lighting engine was changed yet it again, looks more natural. this from my footage i captured. the physics were also changed again, feels very good, cars have alot more weight and it's alittle more dificult. also noticed the particle effects like kicking sand and rocks onto the track.

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Updated lighting engine. looks so much nicer, alot brighter more realistic.

Before:

After with 1.05(note new trees etc)

Note the reflection on the window, lighting on the barriers, 3d trees. improved drawdistance in mirrors. new shadows.

Everything has a more natural realistic look, really loving this beta, and how things are changing progressively.

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lol @ how pathetic gt's environments are one of the moutains is a cardboard cut out on one video i seen.

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@bigsmack1984: there are no cardboard "Cutouts" all the environments are 3d.

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@TorqueHappens08 said:

@bigsmack1984: there are no cardboard "Cutouts" all the environments are 3d.

im not lying man im looking through the thread trying to find that video of the track i seen it on i swear the background's moutain is just a picture because u could see it move when u turned like a 2d sprite kinda deal.

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@bigsmack1984: Well i've been playing the beta since it started, have yet to come across a 2d moutian even on nurburgring(the mountains in the background are full 3d) you can especially see this in Replay, however i think you must be talking about the "scapes" photomode.

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@TorqueHappens08 said:

@bigsmack1984: Well i've been playing the beta since it started, have yet to come across a 2d moutian even on nurburgring(the mountains in the background are full 3d) you can especially see this in Replay, however i think you must be talking about the "scapes" photomode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=150&v=lvUTKBfUpJ4

2:52

So obvious that moutain in the background is just a picture not 3d model'd pay close attention to it throughout the track.

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#484 deactivated-5a44ec138c1e6
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nah mate.

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nah mate.

it is

plus gt's physics suck ass pretty sad when need for speed 1994 has better physics that's why its a boring ass racing game in general always been.

nice car models always but the physics and track detail always sucked.

if this game has no roll over that's a total joke.

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@TorqueHappens08: look left.

outside that they did improve the graphics, hope they improve even more things like 3d grass, better shadows, better texture filtering and god rays.

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#487  Edited By TorqueHappens08
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@bigsmack1984: That track is dragon trail, nah, that's a fully rendered mountain range, i'm driving on it right now, at points in the replay it shows a birds eye view of the track, none of it is 2d, just looks 2d. in game if you drive close you can see the 3d peaks and shadows etc.

infact that's dragon trail #1

Dragon trail #2 takes you up the mountain, you can start to see the tracks, trees and villages of the course when you get very close.

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#488  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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@bigsmack1984 said:
@TorqueHappens08 said:

@bigsmack1984: Well i've been playing the beta since it started, have yet to come across a 2d moutian even on nurburgring(the mountains in the background are full 3d) you can especially see this in Replay, however i think you must be talking about the "scapes" photomode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=150&v=lvUTKBfUpJ4

2:52

So obvious that moutain in the background is just a picture not 3d model'd pay close attention to it throughout the track.

... it's clearly not. If you watch in motion as the car moves to realize there is depth on a 3D mountain model.

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@cimbom1993: they definitely need to work on the backgrounds, however things like replacing trackside 2d sprite trees with 3d trees was a good move. your first picture before the update had ugly 2d sprites that follow the player, less grass etc, it's nice to see things changing. pretty impressed with graphics as a hole with a steady 60fps.

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#490  Edited By bigsmack1984
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The graphics are ok, but gran turismo released in 1998 and you still cant roll over a car by accidentally hitting a wall going too fast? So much for a racing sim franchise still sucks after amost 20 years physics wise total joke lol.

I refused to buy any forza game because of that also only forza game i've ever bought was forza 3 or 4 forgot because thats when they finally added rollover to the franchise improved the physics alot.

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you could roll over in GT5, GT6 and Vision GT(roll over was disabled) GTsport you can roll over, iv'e done it alot on accident.

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@bigsmack1984: You can roll over. i dunno what you're talking about. I've been rolling over since GT5 on PS3. I even rolled over in the GT Sport Beta the other day.

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sure hope its improved over gt5 because it seem'd u always landed back on ur wheels lol.

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The franchise's gonna be dead and buried by the time this game comes out.

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#495  Edited By ellos
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@cimbom1993 said:

@TorqueHappens08: look left.

outside that they did improve the graphics, hope they improve even more things like 3d grass, better shadows, better texture filtering and god rays.

Your not going to get that out of any based console for these types of games. Reduce the physics calculations and cut the frame rate in half then you can get there. You are asking for impossible odds out of Gran Turismo running on ps4 and targeting 60fps with extensive physics calculations. Its comparable and quite frankly looking better then its counter parts already (Asserto Corsa, Forza 6, Project Cars on consoles). They all have lower quality geometry for some objects especially when you pause before stream in. It cannot have geometry work like Forza Horizon 3 for example and target 60fps, Its Impossible. The realistic art style would have to cary it.

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@xantufrog said:
@bigsmack1984 said:
@TorqueHappens08 said:

@bigsmack1984: Well i've been playing the beta since it started, have yet to come across a 2d moutian even on nurburgring(the mountains in the background are full 3d) you can especially see this in Replay, however i think you must be talking about the "scapes" photomode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=150&v=lvUTKBfUpJ4

2:52

So obvious that moutain in the background is just a picture not 3d model'd pay close attention to it throughout the track.

... it's clearly not. If you watch in motion as the car moves to realize there is depth on a 3D mountain model.

It's indeed a 3D model, but it doesn't look really good

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#498 Rikusaki
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The transformation that GT Sport went through since its initial reveal is simply unreal.

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Can we finally lock this stupid thread now that it's been bumped from the dead by Kawasaki?

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@Rikusaki: do not bump old threads

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