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#1 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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personally im always looking to have the best graphics and most immersive game possible, i know in systemwars gameplay>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>graphics for most ppl, but BAH! im not one of them, graphics are essential to a games success and can allow the player to be immersed into the world therefore improving the gameplay. a game like crysis would be mediocre if it was dubbed down graphics, but when the you switch it on the max settings it becomes a whole different ballgame.

BEHOLD graphics at its best:

Heavy Rain Screenshot

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so if you're like me and believe that graphics do matter just as much as gameplay sign here:

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#2 Krigon
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If graphics didn't matter all ps3/360/pc users would be buying the Wii or why not go all the way back to the Atari-era .
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#3 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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If graphics didn't matter all ps3/360/pc users would be buying the Wii or why not go all the way back to the Atari-era .Krigon
yea, i was focusing more on the fact that graphics effect gameplay, but u bring up a good point...
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#4 SSCyborg
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Didn't Lair have great graphics? :?
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#5 alexmurray
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alot of those aren't gameplay shots
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#6 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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Didn't Lair have great graphics? :?SSCyborg
didnt gears have good graphics?... lol lair is an oddball...and i can list many games with both good graphics/gameplay
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#7 DivergeUnify
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I disagree.
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#8 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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alot of those aren't gameplay shotsalexmurray
which ones?... EDIT: sorry if u ment gameplay some of those are in engine, but what does that have to do wiht the topic?
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#9 spike6566
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looking forward to Geow 2, Kz2 , heavy rain
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#10 DementedDragon
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^ If graphics didn't matter, there wouldn't be any threads about them.

and in my eyes, graphics doesn't equal gameplay.

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#11 alexmurray
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[QUOTE="alexmurray"]alot of those aren't gameplay shotszomgwtfbbqlol1
which ones?...

the bioshock pic and the pic below it

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#12 aliblabla2007
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Graphics help out with the immersion factor, which is a good thing.

In the case of Crysis and Company of Heroes, having more system power behind you means you can turn up the physics, and since both those games support destructible environments, it does change gameplay, usually for the better.

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#13 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]alot of those aren't gameplay shotsalexmurray

which ones?...

the bioshock pic and the pic below it

bioshock pic is in cam mode but w/e it looks like that in game, and same goes for the World in conflict picture that is all in game and looks like that when you are playing (cept w/o a HUD)
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#14 TheGrat1
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Graphics dont make the game but they can certainly enhance it.
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#15 alexmurray
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[QUOTE="alexmurray"]

[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]alot of those aren't gameplay shotszomgwtfbbqlol1

which ones?...

the bioshock pic and the pic below it

bioshock pic is in cam mode but w/e it looks like that in game, and same goes for the World in conflict picture that is all in game and looks like that when you are playing (cept w/o a HUD)

I know Im not stupid but they look touched up thats why I said it

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#16 ch-ch-chaoguy
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Eh...I'm still fine with my 8 bit games thank you very much...

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#17 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]

[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]alot of those aren't gameplay shotsalexmurray

which ones?...

the bioshock pic and the pic below it

bioshock pic is in cam mode but w/e it looks like that in game, and same goes for the World in conflict picture that is all in game and looks like that when you are playing (cept w/o a HUD)

I know Im not stupid but they look touched up thats why I said it

oh possably on the bioshock pic, but the WiC shot looks just like it doe son my PC, and btw dont get offended so easily lol... i never thought u where stupid
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[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]alot of those aren't gameplay shotsalexmurray

which ones?...

the bioshock pic and the pic below it

The one below it (World in Conflict) is in game...

Also what is the one below the Mirror's Edge pic??

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#19 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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Eh...I'm still fine with my 8 bit games thank you very much...

ch-ch-chaoguy
then go back and play some pong... but think of it htis way, whats funner? Pong or a 3D pong (same game with good graphics...) thats what i thought....
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#20 Locke562
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alot of those aren't gameplay shotsalexmurray

Only one of them isn't.

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#21 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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[QUOTE="alexmurray"]

[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]alot of those aren't gameplay shotsgasmaskman

which ones?...

the bioshock pic and the pic below it

The one below it (World in Conflict) is in game...

Also what is the one below the Mirror's Edge pic??

Project Offset (PC)

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#22 Locke562
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[QUOTE="alexmurray"]

[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="alexmurray"]alot of those aren't gameplay shotsgasmaskman

which ones?...

the bioshock pic and the pic below it

The one below it (World in Conflict) is in game...

Also what is the one below the Mirror's Edge pic??

That's Project Offset.

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#23 Blackification
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the gray.. it hurts my eyes.
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#24 FamiBox
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We all know sheep are in denial.

If Nintendo had released a console with better graphics than the 360/PS3, sheep would be constantly rubbing it in our faces and talking about how great graphics are and how important they are.

But because Wii's graphics can't compare... for that reason only, they live in denial.

It is true that graphics can add to gameplay a whole lot, and immerse you in another world (like oblivion) or in a more realistic setting (like COD4)

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#25 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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the gray.. it hurts my eyes.Blackification
gray?... where? lol
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#26 Tykain
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While gameplay is most important, everything matters...Graphics, gameplay, sounds. If one aspect of the game is lacking it will be a mediocre game.
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#27 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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We all know sheep are in denial.

If Nintendo had released a console with better graphics than the 360/PS3, sheep would be constantly rubbing it in our faces and talking about how great graphics are and how important they are.

But because Wii's graphics can't compare... for that reason only, they live in denial.

It is true that graphics can add to gameplay a whole lot, and immerse you in another world (like oblivion) or in a more realistic setting (like COD4)

FamiBox
lol yea... gamers should unite against the WII... its the enemy of gamers everywhere, and for the love of god almost all of the wii games suck excluding a few, and they have bad graphics...
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#28 Saturos3091
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If Bioshock looked that great it'd be far more atmospheric than it is. Gameplay is still more important than graphics, but graphics can really push the experience from a good one to a great and memorable one (not to mention create an amazing atmosphere).
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#29 deactivated-6243ee9902175
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I still play the doom engine games more than newer games. What do you think?
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#30 masiisam
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I don't agree....

You can have stunning grafx .....and the game is hollow and meaningless...

Perfect example is GT5P

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#31 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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I still play the doom engine games more than newer games. What do you think?Whiteblade999
i think u should upgrade ur comp if needed and get on crysis now... lol but yea, its hard to argue this, bcz the worst graphics of this gen could have been the best of the last gen, and the graphics of next gen maybe lifelike and make something like crysis look like crap, but hey ill i know is i want the best available
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#32 ch-ch-chaoguy
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[QUOTE="ch-ch-chaoguy"]

Eh...I'm still fine with my 8 bit games thank you very much...

zomgwtfbbqlol1

then go back and play some pong... but think of it htis way, whats funner? Pong or a 3D pong (same game with good graphics...) thats what i thought....

Pong is like 2-bit... Im fine with SMB:3...

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#33 Krigon
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Like some stated graphics helps alot with the immersion.

Add great sound with awesome graphics and you just might forget that it is a game for a few seconds.

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#34 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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I don't agree....

You can have stunning grafx .....and the game is hollow and meaningless...

Perfect example is GT5P

masiisam
i liked that demo/game... but hey there are always oddballs, neways wait until the full version releases
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#35 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="ch-ch-chaoguy"]

Eh...I'm still fine with my 8 bit games thank you very much...

ch-ch-chaoguy

then go back and play some pong... but think of it htis way, whats funner? Pong or a 3D pong (same game with good graphics...) thats what i thought....

Pong is like 2-bit... Im fine with SMB:3...

lol w/e but do u see what im getting at?
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#36 spencer_119
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gameplay comes frrst just because a game looks good doesn't mean it plays good
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#37 diped
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you can make the same gameplay regardless of what graphics you use. the overall feeling of the game will not be the same, but the gameplay will.
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#38 ch-ch-chaoguy
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[QUOTE="FamiBox"]

We all know sheep are in denial.

If Nintendo had released a console with better graphics than the 360/PS3, sheep would be constantly rubbing it in our faces and talking about how great graphics are and how important they are.

But because Wii's graphics can't compare... for that reason only, they live in denial.

It is true that graphics can add to gameplay a whole lot, and immerse you in another world (like oblivion) or in a more realistic setting (like COD4)

zomgwtfbbqlol1

lol yea... gamers should unite against the WII... its the enemy of gamers everywhere, and for the love of god almost all of the wii games suck excluding a few, and they have bad graphics...

That is perhaps the dumbest thing I have ever seen on these boards... I'll name a game that makes your post fail.

You guessed it, Super Mario Galaxy...

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#39 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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gameplay comes frrst just because a game looks good doesn't mean it plays goodspencer_119
yea but if a game looks like crap...intern it will usually kill gameplay
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#40 deactivated-6243ee9902175
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[QUOTE="Whiteblade999"]I still play the doom engine games more than newer games. What do you think?zomgwtfbbqlol1
i think u should upgrade ur comp if needed and get on crysis now... lol but yea, its hard to argue this, bcz the worst graphics of this gen could have been the best of the last gen, and the graphics of next gen maybe lifelike and make something like crysis look like crap, but hey ill i know is i want the best available

I played the demo but wasn't overly impressed. I will get it when the price is lower but not worth it for $40. Graphics are the last thing I look at, they are ok but I play a game to play it and not look at it. If all I wanted was eyecandy I would go watch a movie.

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[QUOTE="ch-ch-chaoguy"][QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="ch-ch-chaoguy"]

Eh...I'm still fine with my 8 bit games thank you very much...

zomgwtfbbqlol1

then go back and play some pong... but think of it htis way, whats funner? Pong or a 3D pong (same game with good graphics...) thats what i thought....

Pong is like 2-bit... Im fine with SMB:3...

lol w/e but do u see what im getting at?

No, Super Mario Brothers 3 was perhaps the most enthralling experience I've had in a video game aside from RTS's.

it is just so addicting...

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#42 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="FamiBox"]

We all know sheep are in denial.

If Nintendo had released a console with better graphics than the 360/PS3, sheep would be constantly rubbing it in our faces and talking about how great graphics are and how important they are.

But because Wii's graphics can't compare... for that reason only, they live in denial.

It is true that graphics can add to gameplay a whole lot, and immerse you in another world (like oblivion) or in a more realistic setting (like COD4)

ch-ch-chaoguy

lol yea... gamers should unite against the WII... its the enemy of gamers everywhere, and for the love of god almost all of the wii games suck excluding a few, and they have bad graphics...

That is perhaps the dumbest thing I have ever seen on these boards... I'll name a game that makes your post fail.

You guessed it, Super Mario Galaxy...

good graphics?, also i said excluding a few, now go back and play ur crappy WII, im pissed that i even purchased one, along with the god dam nunchucks and chargers, and classic controllers...oy...though zelda was fun, i would have liked it in full 1080p with oblivion graphics maybe...

btw u fail

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[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="ch-ch-chaoguy"][QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="ch-ch-chaoguy"]

Eh...I'm still fine with my 8 bit games thank you very much...

ch-ch-chaoguy

then go back and play some pong... but think of it htis way, whats funner? Pong or a 3D pong (same game with good graphics...) thats what i thought....

Pong is like 2-bit... Im fine with SMB:3...

lol w/e but do u see what im getting at?

No, Super Mario Brothers 3 was perhaps the most enthralling experience I've had in a video game aside from RTS's.

it is just so addicting...

yea... addicting and immersion are very different, perfect example of immersion to an extreme is Metal Gear Solid 4... its almost like a motion picture that draws you into the story, but hey it can also be addicting
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#44 ch-ch-chaoguy
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[QUOTE="ch-ch-chaoguy"][QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="FamiBox"]

We all know sheep are in denial.

If Nintendo had released a console with better graphics than the 360/PS3, sheep would be constantly rubbing it in our faces and talking about how great graphics are and how important they are.

But because Wii's graphics can't compare... for that reason only, they live in denial.

It is true that graphics can add to gameplay a whole lot, and immerse you in another world (like oblivion) or in a more realistic setting (like COD4)

zomgwtfbbqlol1

lol yea... gamers should unite against the WII... its the enemy of gamers everywhere, and for the love of god almost all of the wii games suck excluding a few, and they have bad graphics...

That is perhaps the dumbest thing I have ever seen on these boards... I'll name a game that makes your post fail.

You guessed it, Super Mario Galaxy...

good graphics?, also i said excluding a few, now go back and play ur crappy WII, im pissed that i even purchased one, along with the god dam nunchucks and chargers, and classic controllers...oy...though zelda was fun, i would have liked it in full 1080p with oblivion graphics maybe...

btw u fail

Im guessing you'll be banned within the week...

Did I mention I also own an Xbox 360? And yes I still play Wii more...

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#45 deactivated-6243ee9902175
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[QUOTE="ch-ch-chaoguy"][QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="FamiBox"]

We all know sheep are in denial.

If Nintendo had released a console with better graphics than the 360/PS3, sheep would be constantly rubbing it in our faces and talking about how great graphics are and how important they are.

But because Wii's graphics can't compare... for that reason only, they live in denial.

It is true that graphics can add to gameplay a whole lot, and immerse you in another world (like oblivion) or in a more realistic setting (like COD4)

zomgwtfbbqlol1

lol yea... gamers should unite against the WII... its the enemy of gamers everywhere, and for the love of god almost all of the wii games suck excluding a few, and they have bad graphics...

That is perhaps the dumbest thing I have ever seen on these boards... I'll name a game that makes your post fail.

You guessed it, Super Mario Galaxy...

good graphics?, also i said excluding a few, now go back and play ur crappy WII, im pissed that i even purchased one, along with the god dam nunchucks and chargers, and classic controllers...oy...though zelda was fun, i would have liked it in full 1080p with oblivion graphics maybe...

btw u fail

Then quit crying and sell your wii like I am planning to do. It has maybe 5 good games but if you don't like it wouldn't a better bet to be just to sell it instead of going "lol this sucks".

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#46 masiisam
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[QUOTE="masiisam"]

I don't agree....

You can have stunning grafx .....and the game is hollow and meaningless...

Perfect example is GT5P

zomgwtfbbqlol1

i liked that demo/game... but hey there are always oddballs, neways wait until the full version releases

I liked it to..but I had to rethink the game description for me to like it....For a Sim it's garbage......but as an arcade racer it's fun...

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#47 Pinkyimp
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Of course graphics matter.

But its the idiot fanboys that claim GOTY over some stupid screen shots of there stupid overhyped game, nobody wants to play pong but in dont want to see 356565 threads about "MGS4z is teh grapxiz KINGZ!!!!",

That being said every single game you listed will have fantastic gameplay...its just when fanboys claim ownage over some grainy bushes its get stupid..

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#48 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="Whiteblade999"]I still play the doom engine games more than newer games. What do you think?Whiteblade999

i think u should upgrade ur comp if needed and get on crysis now... lol but yea, its hard to argue this, bcz the worst graphics of this gen could have been the best of the last gen, and the graphics of next gen maybe lifelike and make something like crysis look like crap, but hey ill i know is i want the best available

I played the demo but wasn't overly impressed. I will get it when the price is lower but not worth it for $40. Graphics are the last thing I look at, they are ok but I play a game to play it and not look at it. If all I wanted was eyecandy I would go watch a movie.

well what setting did u play the game on? low? medium? high? very high?, also the demo dsnt give much
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#49 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="masiisam"]

I don't agree....

You can have stunning grafx .....and the game is hollow and meaningless...

Perfect example is GT5P

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i liked that demo/game... but hey there are always oddballs, neways wait until the full version releases

I liked it to..but I had to rethink the game description for me to like it....For a Sim it's garbage......but as an arcade racer it's fun...

yea, i really want a full version already i hate the idea of a prologue
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[QUOTE="Whiteblade999"]

[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="Whiteblade999"]I still play the doom engine games more than newer games. What do you think?zomgwtfbbqlol1

i think u should upgrade ur comp if needed and get on crysis now... lol but yea, its hard to argue this, bcz the worst graphics of this gen could have been the best of the last gen, and the graphics of next gen maybe lifelike and make something like crysis look like crap, but hey ill i know is i want the best available

I played the demo but wasn't overly impressed. I will get it when the price is lower but not worth it for $40. Graphics are the last thing I look at, they are ok but I play a game to play it and not look at it. If all I wanted was eyecandy I would go watch a movie.

well what setting did u play the game on? low? medium? high? very high?, also the demo dsnt give much

It ran on high on my system just fine; I just wasn't overly impressed with the gameplay even though the nanosuit was a good touch. As far as the demo goes I use that as a major decision on buying a game; back in the day when we had shareware (lol I'm 17 and I sound old) you would get a good amount of the game and it was eaiser to make the decision of whether to buy it or not. Had the demo been longer I would have maybe changed my mind.