I prefer to have all 3 in my games, I don't like to give up on any of those in a game for the most part. A game with great gameplay, graphics and story>>>>>>>>>
Gameplay first, then graphics then story for me. I spend most of my time playing online so story doesn't really matter for me. Look at Left 4 dead, Team Fortress 2 and CS:S. Story isn't required to make a game good, gameplay is.
Take two of the games that stick out as games I really like in recent times. Bioshock and fallout 3 - I'm not convinced that the story was really the thing that I liked about the games.
I just liked the idea of the games, if that makes sense? I don't know if that falls under story or what?
Gameplay >>> Story >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphics I need a good story in a game or there is nothing to motivate me to finish it. Graphics aren't important. I can still go back and play FF7 and Ocarina of Time with their ancient graphics and love them.
I think threads like this are dumb, and I hate seeing how often they come up. All three elements listed are important to different degrees depending on the type of game being played. That's all there really is to say. If you want to just play 2D games, confine yourself to the DS, the Virtual Console, and older systems.
IMO Gameplay is the most important, but graphics come in a close second. Story is in third place, because games are first and foremost about being fun and immersive. Getting all three right is the difference between having a "good game" and an AMAZING game. MGS4 is the perfect example-- the graphics, gameplay, and story were all incredible, and they all come together to make one of this generation's defining games. A Game with fun gameplay but terrible graphics is not going to bring you back the same way it would if it had great visuals to match the gameplay. However, a game with good graphics and gameplay, but a weaksauce story is going to give you a good experience, but not as much as if the developers actually put some effort into writing something worthwhile. All three are important, and I don't think saying that one is "the most important" should be an excuse to let the other two slide.
For me, story certainly comes first. However I'm sure everyone can agree that if a game is broken, it doesn't matter how good the story is. So I guess that means that gameplay is a close second.
I definitely don't care as much about graphics, but I have noticed that I am becoming spoiled. It is really hard for me to play older games, even if they have a great story if the graphics look really bad. I'll still do it, but it is a bit of an eyesore.
Gameplay is the only thing that can truly stand out from the crowd when the game ages, story if it's an RPG. There are reasons why Super Mario World, Super Mario 64, the 2D Sonics, and CS have all been known to be one of the greatest games of all time. A good story can add to a game, but it's not necessary for a game to be great. Same with graphics on the technical scale, but it's artistic direction that can really make a game look great.
I say gameplay because you can have a incredibly fun game that has ok graphics and no story but a game with great graphics and awesome story could still be horrible with poor gameplay.
What? Gameplay is most important by far. Gameplay is the actual playing of the game, story is just a way to explain what your doing and graphics are so you can see what your doing. Now of course the latter two are important but they are nothing, repeat NOTHING, with gameplay because their purpose is to compliment the gameplay.
[QUOTE="hayato_"]Story > Graphics ( Art style ) > Gameplay Head_of_games
What? Gameplay is most important by far. Gameplay is the actual playing of the game, story is just a way to explain what your doing and graphics are so you can see what your doing. Now of course the latter two are important but they are nothing, repeat NOTHING, with gameplay because their purpose is to compliment the gameplay. Depends, and thanks for your opinion also. For me though its story and graphics over gameplay. I just like one other the other. Period.
[QUOTE="Head_of_games"][QUOTE="hayato_"]Story > Graphics ( Art style ) > Gameplay hayato_
What? Gameplay is most important by far. Gameplay is the actual playing of the game, story is just a way to explain what your doing and graphics are so you can see what your doing. Now of course the latter two are important but they are nothing, repeat NOTHING, with gameplay because their purpose is to compliment the gameplay. Depends, and thanks for your opinion also. For me though its story and graphics over gameplay. I just like one other the other. Period. Doesn't that just describe what a movie is?
You cant play a game with blocky graphics. Technology is moving forwards, not backwards.
Do you honestly wanna play mario 2d over and over again on the same graphics card?
Sometimes, first impressions count. At first glance, its graphics, then gameplay, then eventually the story as you complete it. Thats how things roll out.
Crysis was a step forward and i give any developer the respect for putting effort into graphics, animations, model details as well as physics too.
[QUOTE="hayato_"][QUOTE="Head_of_games"] What? Gameplay is most important by far. Gameplay is the actual playing of the game, story is just a way to explain what your doing and graphics are so you can see what your doing. Now of course the latter two are important but they are nothing, repeat NOTHING, with gameplay because their purpose is to compliment the gameplay.hiphops_savior
Depends, and thanks for your opinion also. For me though its story and graphics over gameplay. I just like one other the other. Period. Doesn't that just describe what a movie is? Yep, but I like playing games too. Watching movies alittle bit more. If I can expreince them all then why not? Is their a rule against it or something? I just prefer one over the other. When I can exprience all three its like a wild ride.
[QUOTE="Head_of_games"][QUOTE="hayato_"]Story > Graphics ( Art style ) > Gameplay hayato_
What? Gameplay is most important by far. Gameplay is the actual playing of the game, story is just a way to explain what your doing and graphics are so you can see what your doing. Now of course the latter two are important but they are nothing, repeat NOTHING, with gameplay because their purpose is to compliment the gameplay. Depends, and thanks for your opinion also. For me though its story and graphics over gameplay. I just like one other the other. Period. Well then in your original post you shouldn't of made it seem like you where stating your opinion to be fact. Anyways, why do prefer story and graphics over gameplay? You can have a game that has great gameplay and great graphics with a worthless story and it will be great (like all the mario games). You can have a game with great gameplay and great story but with worthless graphics, and it will be great (Old classics with outdated graphics are fun to this day). But if you have a game with great story and great graphics but worthless gameplay then the game becomes unplayable or an animated movie! Graphics and story are expendable, but gameplay isn't.
[QUOTE="hayato_"][QUOTE="Head_of_games"] What? Gameplay is most important by far. Gameplay is the actual playing of the game, story is just a way to explain what your doing and graphics are so you can see what your doing. Now of course the latter two are important but they are nothing, repeat NOTHING, with gameplay because their purpose is to compliment the gameplay.Head_of_games
Depends, and thanks for your opinion also. For me though its story and graphics over gameplay. I just like one other the other. Period. Well then in your original post you shouldn't of made it seem like you where stating your opinion to be fact. Anyways, why do prefer story and graphics over gameplay? You can have a game that has great gameplay and great graphics with a worthless story and it will be great (like all the mario games). You can have a game with great gameplay and great story but with worthless graphics, and it will be great (Old classics with outdated graphics are fun to this day). But if you have a game with great story and great graphics but worthless gameplay then the game becomes unplayable or an animated movie! Graphics and story are expendable, but gameplay isn't. Uh no. Great story can always make up for bad gameplay, but good gameplay can never make up for a bad story. There is something you can get out of a good story that you can never get out of great gameplay. Adventure games have worthless forgetable gameplay but are always remembered for their story. Graphics can be obsolete, sound can be obsolete, even gameplay is not always immortal, but story always is the longest lasting factor of any game. What am I doing when I play the original Metal Gear Solid? I'm not playing it for the gameplay, I'm certainly not playing it for the graphics, but I'm playing it for the story, and that is something that will always be remembered for something beyond nostalga.
[QUOTE="Head_of_games"][QUOTE="hayato_"] Depends, and thanks for your opinion also. For me though its story and graphics over gameplay. I just like one other the other. Period.insanejedi
Well then in your original post you shouldn't of made it seem like you where stating your opinion to be fact. Anyways, why do prefer story and graphics over gameplay? You can have a game that has great gameplay and great graphics with a worthless story and it will be great (like all the mario games). You can have a game with great gameplay and great story but with worthless graphics, and it will be great (Old classics with outdated graphics are fun to this day). But if you have a game with great story and great graphics but worthless gameplay then the game becomes unplayable or an animated movie! Graphics and story are expendable, but gameplay isn't. Uh no. Great story can always make up for bad gameplay, but good gameplay can never make up for a bad story. There is something you can get out of a good story that you can never get out of great gameplay. Adventure games have worthless forgetable gameplay but are always remembered for their story. Graphics can be obsolete, sound can be obsolete, even gameplay is not immortal, but story always is the longest lasting factor of any game. What am I doing when I play the original Metal Gear Solid? I'm not playing it for the gameplay, I'm certainly not playing it for the graphics, but I'm playing it for the story, and that is something that will always be remembered for something beyond nostalga. I'm not saying story isn't important. It is. I'm saying that it isn't AS important as gameplay. All the mario games have no story yet they are masterpieces. I have yet to see a game with no gameplay but a great story be called a masterpiece.
[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"][QUOTE="hayato_"] Depends, and thanks for your opinion also. For me though its story and graphics over gameplay. I just like one other the other. Period.hayato_
Doesn't that just describe what a movie is? Yep, but I like playing games too. Watching movies alittle bit more. If I can expreince them all then why not? Is their a rule against it or something? I just prefer one over the other. When I can exprience all three its like a wild ride. Not that, but IMO, there's a reason why graphic powerhouses with shoddy gameplay are never classics. I just see story and graphics as bonuses that can really take a game to the next level, but can't save a game with bad gameplay to begin with.
[QUOTE="Head_of_games"][QUOTE="insanejedi"][QUOTE="Head_of_games"] Well then in your original post you shouldn't of made it seem like you where stating your opinion to be fact. Anyways, why do prefer story and graphics over gameplay? You can have a game that has great gameplay and great graphics with a worthless story and it will be great (like all the mario games). You can have a game with great gameplay and great story but with worthless graphics, and it will be great (Old classics with outdated graphics are fun to this day). But if you have a game with great story and great graphics but worthless gameplay then the game becomes unplayable or an animated movie! Graphics and story are expendable, but gameplay isn't. Uh no. Great story can always make up for bad gameplay, but good gameplay can never make up for a bad story. There is something you can get out of a good story that you can never get out of great gameplay. Adventure games have worthless forgetable gameplay but are always remembered for their story. Graphics can be obsolete, sound can be obsolete, even gameplay is not immortal, but story always is the longest lasting factor of any game. What am I doing when I play the original Metal Gear Solid? I'm not playing it for the gameplay, I'm certainly not playing it for the graphics, but I'm playing it for the story, and that is something that will always be remembered for something beyond nostalga. I'm not saying story isn't important. It is. I'm saying that it isn't AS important as gameplay. All the mario games have no story yet they are masterpieces. I have yet to see a game with no gameplay but a great story be called a masterpiece. The Longest Journey basically has no gameplay and is all story, yet it's regarded as one of the greatest games of all time. And for stuff like Tetris, there are some occasions with games that the gameplay is basically perfect. Any changes to the gameplay will break it, therefore it lasts forever. It's like chess at some point.
You cant play a game with blocky graphics. Technology is moving forwards, not backwards.
Do you honestly wanna play mario 2d over and over again on the same graphics card?
Sometimes, first impressions count. At first glance, its graphics, then gameplay, then eventually the story as you complete it. Thats how things roll out.
Crysis was a step forward and i give any developer the respect for putting effort into graphics, animations, model details as well as physics too.
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Why can't you play a game with blocky graphics? Boom Blox and Katamari both have blocky graphics and I think they're both great. Crysis was indeed a step forward for graphics, but it would have meant nothing had it not had the gameplay to back it up. To each their own.
[QUOTE="hayato_"][QUOTE="Head_of_games"] What? Gameplay is most important by far. Gameplay is the actual playing of the game, story is just a way to explain what your doing and graphics are so you can see what your doing. Now of course the latter two are important but they are nothing, repeat NOTHING, with gameplay because their purpose is to compliment the gameplay.Head_of_games
Depends, and thanks for your opinion also. For me though its story and graphics over gameplay. I just like one other the other. Period. Well then in your original post you shouldn't of made it seem like you where stating your opinion to be fact. Anyways, why do prefer story and graphics over gameplay? You can have a game that has great gameplay and great graphics with a worthless story and it will be great (like all the mario games). You can have a game with great gameplay and great story but with worthless graphics, and it will be great (Old classics with outdated graphics are fun to this day). But if you have a game with great story and great graphics but worthless gameplay then the game becomes unplayable or an animated movie! Graphics and story are expendable, but gameplay isn't. So everyone else's opinion is facts, while mine is opinion or something. I've read everyone elses comments and I don't think that I responded in a fact or opinion thing tbh. Example: Mass Effect : Im currently playing this game and the story is wonderful along with the art style and graphics. The gameplay is throwing me off a bit and I think it definitly needs some refinement. If it wasn't for the story (or story arcs so to say ) I probably wound have just taken the game back already. That also works vice versa. Good story, bad gameplay (or gameplay elements ) , Bad gameplay, good story. etc Lastly, people need to stop being so closeminded on the issue. Gamers are unique and diverse, meaning they like different things and we use video games for all sorts of things nowadays. I just prefer one over the other like I stated in the above posts. This is actually the reason why we have genres to this day also. So answer this question: Is there a rule to how I should enjoy a game?
[QUOTE="hayato_"][QUOTE="hiphops_savior"] Doesn't that just describe what a movie is?hiphops_savior
Yep, but I like playing games too. Watching movies alittle bit more. If I can expreince them all then why not? Is their a rule against it or something? I just prefer one over the other. When I can exprience all three its like a wild ride. Not that, but IMO, there's a reason why graphic powerhouses with shoddy gameplay are never classics. I just see story and graphics as bonuses that can really take a game to the next level, but can't save a game with bad gameplay to begin with. I respect that. Thats your opinion and your entitled to that. Its all good
Let's face it,a game can have graphics that open a portal to heaven,and a story that can bring tears to the eyes of a war veteran with no eyes,but if the gameplay sucks,the game is bad.If you want a story,go watch an Oscar nominated film.If you want graphics,go watch a special effects blockbuster.Games are built on gameplay,everything else is secondary.
Let's face it,a game can have graphics that open a portal to heaven,and a story that can bring tears to the eyes of a war veteran with no eyes,but if the gameplay sucks,the game is bad.If you want a story,go watch an Oscar nominated film.If you want graphics,go watch a special effects blockbuster.Games are built on gameplay,everything else is secondary.789shadow
doesn't mean you can't have all three either. and besides, in order to play the game, you kinda need the visuals (i.E graphics). and considering what console generation we're in, i'd prefer it if mots of the games that came out today looked a tad bit better tha they did last gen.
Am I allowed to say Graphics = Gameplay = Story, becuase all three of them play an integral part in the overall quality of the game, and I really shouldn't have to choose between them because they aren't mutual exclusive? If not, then I'll go with the consensus of Gameplay > Story >> Graphics, but I won't be happy about it. :P
[QUOTE="789shadow"]Let's face it,a game can have graphics that open a portal to heaven,and a story that can bring tears to the eyes of a war veteran with no eyes,but if the gameplay sucks,the game is bad.If you want a story,go watch an Oscar nominated film.If you want graphics,go watch a special effects blockbuster.Games are built on gameplay,everything else is secondary.Sonick54
doesn't mean you can't have all three either. and besides, in order to play the game, you kinda need the visuals (i.E graphics). and considering what console generation we're in, i'd prefer it if mots of the games that came out today looked a tad bit better tha they did last gen.
I'm not saying that graphics and story aren't important,but that without good gameplay,a game cannot be good.Lair is a perfect example.
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