Graphics War!!! Halo 3 (Xbox360) versus Killzone 2 (PS3)

[QUOTE="BrownWalrus"]In the end, you guys are still comparing a near finishied product to the first real content of Killzone 2. Imagine if we compared this KZ2 footage to those first screenshots of Halo 3, from the beta and all. Yea, let's not go there. Either way, i still think KZ2 looks much better in it's current form.akuma303x

Wow, don't ever post again. I can't believe how...don't wanna get banned, some of you guys here are, it's just insanely hilarious. Yea and Halo 3 was announced even earlier, what's your point? Don't make me laugh, when did we see the first real screenshots of Halo 3? Yea, not that long ago, and they were in pre alpha or alpha or whatever, and they improved, greatly. These are the first real screenshots + videos of KZ2 as well, and they too will improve greatly. What's so hard to understand?

I didnt no that about bungie so a stand corrcted althrough I imagine those games were not well acclaimed as Halo. However i still not going to dimiss Killzone 2 becuase of gurelliasprevious games they deserve a second chance and hopefull they can live up to the hypeJames567

Well, they weren't as popular as Halo, that's for sure.

But I'm not dismissing KZ 2. I liked what I saw in the KZ montage.

[QUOTE="akuma303x"][QUOTE="BrownWalrus"]In the end, you guys are still comparing a near finishied product to the first real content of Killzone 2. Imagine if we compared this KZ2 footage to those first screenshots of Halo 3, from the beta and all. Yea, let's not go there. Either way, i still think KZ2 looks much better in it's current form.BrownWalrus

Wow, don't ever post again. I can't believe how...don't wanna get banned, some of you guys here are, it's just insanely hilarious. Yea and Halo 3 was announced even earlier, what's your point? Don't make me laugh, when did we see the first real screenshots of Halo 3? Yea, not that long ago, and they were in pre alpha or alpha or whatever, and they improved, greatly. These are the first real screenshots + videos of KZ2 as well, and they too will improve greatly. What's so hard to understand?

"once again, COD4 " HAS MORE". I dont care if gorilla didnt want to compress it's data, that does not change Infite Ward beat them at their own game. COD4 beats KZ2. In onscreen MAYHEM and GRAPHICS. If that game can display that, Why cant the 360 do KZ? Because the devs didnt compress the data, oh wow. You have no idea what you speak of. It is the same Idea as creating a character in letter frame. how difficult is this? J-ESUS"


Did you forget to take your Ritaling? The animations in KZ2are twice as good as COD4.CoD looks awsome and on Par with KZ2 but KZ2 just can't be done on 360.Maybe in they start useing the HD-DVD for games, it might happen.2gb per lvl!;) im out!ragrdoll21

I liked Killzone better than any Halo, so i vote for killzone, and wow does it look way better.

Also Halo 3 is coming out in September, and Killzone not util 08.

[QUOTE="ragrdoll21"]"once again, COD4 " HAS MORE". I dont care if gorilla didnt want to compress it's data, that does not change Infite Ward beat them at their own game. COD4 beats KZ2. In onscreen MAYHEM and GRAPHICS. If that game can display that, Why cant the 360 do KZ? Because the devs didnt compress the data, oh wow. You have no idea what you speak of. It is the same Idea as creating a character in letter frame. how difficult is this? J-ESUS"


Did you forget to take your Ritaling? The animations in KZ2are twice as good as COD4.CoD looks awsome and on Par with KZ2 but KZ2 just can't be done on 360.Maybe in they start useing the HD-DVD for games, it might happen.2gb per lvl!;) im out!akuma303x

[QUOTE="akuma303x"][QUOTE="ragrdoll21"]"once again, COD4 " HAS MORE". I dont care if gorilla didnt want to compress it's data, that does not change Infite Ward beat them at their own game. COD4 beats KZ2. In onscreen MAYHEM and GRAPHICS. If that game can display that, Why cant the 360 do KZ? Because the devs didnt compress the data, oh wow. You have no idea what you speak of. It is the same Idea as creating a character in letter frame. how difficult is this? J-ESUS"


Did you forget to take your Ritaling? The animations in KZ2are twice as good as COD4.CoD looks awsome and on Par with KZ2 but KZ2 just can't be done on 360.Maybe in they start useing the HD-DVD for games, it might happen.2gb per lvl!;) im out!ragrdoll21

Halo 3's Textures are Clearly Much higher resolution that the Textures found in Killzone 2.

In every Killzone 2 pic, I find that everything is Dark, Gray and Blurry. While Halo 3 looks the opposite : Everything is fairly well lit, failry colorful and Extremely Crisp and clear.

UpSwing

Killzone has motion blur, Halo doesn't. Killzone has a girtty artstyle, halo doesn't. Killzone isn't a cartoon, Halo almost is.

[QUOTE="UpSwing"]

Halo 3's Textures are Clearly Much higher resolution that the Textures found in Killzone 2.

In every Killzone 2 pic, I find that everything is Dark, Gray and Blurry. While Halo 3 looks the opposite : Everything is fairly well lit, failry colorful and Extremely Crisp and clear.

Wasdie

Killzone has motion blur, Halo doesn't. Killzone has a girtty artstyle, halo doesn't. Killzone isn't a cartoon, Halo almost is.

i hope all those games will be insane.

with the experience and knowhow that the developrs have right now, combined with the next gen harware, we're up for some really great shooters.

i'm thinking of buying and fully enjoying:

-Halo3

-Killzone2

-Cod4

-UT3

-Bioshock

and that's just the top of my most wanted shooters list,

This video, from a portion of the closed door press demo of KZ2 doesnt look that good.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/22115.html

The characters themselves look good and the animation, but most of the time even in the E3 (realtime) trailer, not much was going on. The area shown was very dark and the textures outside of the gun and characters were very low res and had low detail. Of course this game has atleast a year to go and with the budget backing this game if it isnt amazing will be a dissapointment.

As far as halo3, the textures while not super detailed are higher res and alot cleaner. The areas shown seem to be very colorful and what seems to be alot of stuff going on at a steady framerate. While I think the animation is true to the halo feel and look, it could be better. Mostly all press that saw Halo3 behind closed doors thought it looked even better and most were upbeat just like KZ2. This could be mainly because the trailer was just a bunch of crazy action scenes thrown together. Oh well, when KZ2 comes out we'll be comparing it to Gears of War 2.

My contribution Killzone 2 owns it grpahically

This video, from a portion of the closed door press demo of KZ2 doesnt look that good.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/22115.html

The characters themselves look good and the animation, but most of the time even in the E3 (realtime) trailer, not much was going on. The area shown was very dark and the textures outside of the gun and characters were very low res and had low detail. Of course this game has atleast a year to go and with the budget backing this game if it isnt amazing will be a dissapointment.

As far as halo3, the textures while not super detailed are higher res and alot cleaner. The areas shown seem to be very colorful and what seems to be alot of stuff going on at a steady framerate. While I think the animation is true to the halo feel and look, it could be better. Mostly all press that saw Halo3 behind closed doors thought it looked even better and most were upbeat just like KZ2. This could be mainly because the trailer was just a bunch of crazy action scenes thrown together. Oh well, when KZ2 comes out we'll be comparing it to Gears of War 2.

7thSIN

[QUOTE="BrownWalrus"]

[QUOTE="akuma303x"][QUOTE="BrownWalrus"]In the end, you guys are still comparing a near finishied product to the first real content of Killzone 2. Imagine if we compared this KZ2 footage to those first screenshots of Halo 3, from the beta and all. Yea, let's not go there. Either way, i still think KZ2 looks much better in it's current form.akuma303x

Wow, don't ever post again. I can't believe how...don't wanna get banned, some of you guys here are, it's just insanely hilarious. Yea and Halo 3 was announced even earlier, what's your point? Don't make me laugh, when did we see the first real screenshots of Halo 3? Yea, not that long ago, and they were in pre alpha or alpha or whatever, and they improved, greatly. These are the first real screenshots + videos of KZ2 as well, and they too will improve greatly. What's so hard to understand?

I can't believe i wasted my time reading that. You said absolutely nothing worthwhile besides the nonsense you've been saying this whole time. Wake up and start realizing that KZ2 is indeed Pre Alpha and will indeed look much better when it gets released.

Let's wait till both games are out to judge, since they are both being optimized right now.

Anyway, I think you are comparing apples to oranges here. Halo 3 has a completely different artistic style than Killzone. If anything, compare Killzone to Gears of War,and I think you'll find out that at this stage, Gears still has higher resolution textures.

Ill give character models and animation to KZ, but Halo wins in textures, lighting (global HDR FTW), draw distance (this hasnt been talked about, but halo 3 will render many miles per level), and art style (its unique!). When you add the gameplay halo is known for and its famous online, plus the new saved film option, its a no brainer.... None, of us have really seen a single player game of Halo 3, those who have have nothing but could things to say of the graphics..wolverine4262

I would agree (at this point anyways) but i still think KZ2 takes lightning, it's one of the most talked about things about the game. You could say draw distance though we don't know for sure yet, i need to see more levels before i can make that kind of decision (in KZ2 that is). As for textures, Halo 3 definitely takes it there, but you also have to consider that it's an almost finished product while KZ2 still has a while to go, and is in Pre Alpha (hey Halo 3 was in pre alpha and people would not even take that game's graphics seriously, it's at least holding up now).

Look, I know that war isn't supposed to be pretty and all that, but Killzone just hurts my eyes. It's so grey and dark, and everything looks the same as a result. Halo 3 is a beautiful, clean and crisp looking game...most likely will play better, too. Halo 3 ftw.NAPK1NS

Resident Evil 4 wasn't? Heh...those screenshots suck. I would find and post a few much better screenshots but i'm leaving very soon (Europe ftw). All i'm saying is, wait a bit longer and maybe you will change your mind about the game, maybe it will really impress you down the lines. It still has plenty of time for improvements.

Look, I know that war isn't supposed to be pretty and all that, but Killzone just hurts my eyes. It's so grey and dark, and everything looks the same as a result. Halo 3 is a beautiful, clean and crisp looking game...most likely will play better, too. Halo 3 ftw.NAPK1NS

[QUOTE="wolverine4262"]Ill give character models and animation to KZ, but Halo wins in textures, lighting (global HDR FTW), draw distance (this hasnt been talked about, but halo 3 will render many miles per level), and art style (its unique!). When you add the gameplay halo is known for and its famous online, plus the new saved film option, its a no brainer.... None, of us have really seen a single player game of Halo 3, those who have have nothing but could things to say of the graphics..BrownWalrus

I would agree (at this point anyways) but i still think KZ2 takes lightning, it's one of the most talked about things about the game. You could say draw distance though we don't know for sure yet, i need to see more levels before i can make that kind of decision (in KZ2 that is). As for textures, Halo 3 definitely takes it there, but you also have to consider that it's an almost finished product while KZ2 still has a while to go, and is in Pre Alpha (hey Halo 3 was in pre alpha and people would not even take that game's graphics seriously, it's at least holding up now).

Oh, btw, particle effects go to Halo...

Halo 3's Textures are Clearly Much higher resolution that the Textures found in Killzone 2.

In every Killzone 2 pic, I find that everything is Dark, Gray and Blurry. While Halo 3 looks the opposite : Everything is fairly well lit, failry colorful and Extremely Crisp and clear.

UpSwing

I noticed that as well, but still it's apples to oranges in terms of comparison, Killzone looks more realistic because the characters look human and not like robots like in Halo so obviously there are going to be some visual differences. Both look good though but I think the screenies for Killzone 2 are not doing the game justice, plus its still in early stages and not even the beta will look like the screens we are seeing now.

[QUOTE="UpSwing"]

[QUOTE="l-_-l"][QUOTE="UpSwing"]And why exactly ARE you throwing in pics of CGI for Killzone 2? There are CGI pics of Halo 3, but you didn't add them ( and nor should you )UpSwing

WOW did you ever just Self own yourself.

EVERYONE KNOWS that the E3 2005 Trailer of Killzone 2 was 100% PURE CGI.

Those 2 Bottom pics of Killzone 2 are 100% CGI and Look Vastly Superior to how Killzone 2 ACTUALLY Looks as of E3 this year.

Continuation : You see - Check the first page again, the T C has removed the old CGI pics of Killzone , because he, along with everyone else, KNOWS that they are CGI.....well, everyone except for you it seems.

You get the Zebra's Hoof of Approval sir. Ownage Approved....

I like realistic graphics. Halo feels like a coloring book and is extremely removed from reality. Lets go to war, oh wait, im going to wear this bright green reflective suit so everyone can see me. What ever happened to the realism of camoflauge? Its kind of ther for a reason. Halo is alot more similar to quake, an arcade-ish multiplayer shooter. Killzone is much more grounded in reality...its a warzone for christs sake, there isnt going to be green grass and flowers growing everywhere, and sure as hell arent going to have guys wearing bright suits so they can get shot. I just dont think they can be compared at all...One is fake and the other is trying to be real.dxmcat

[QUOTE="caseypayne69"]

Funny watching a game finished in developement compare to a PS3 game that has 8 or 9 months left in developement. I love the way Killzone 2 flows and its realistic showing. Halo is very pretty and with sharp textures.

Screen shots Halo

Actial gameplay Killzone.

WeeWeeJumbo

I don't usually agree with much that you say but I think you hit the nail on the head here; in fact, this is a trend we see in many comparisons between PS3 and 360 games.

Thanks

The funny thing is, aren't we supposed to enjoy games in motion and not in still shots?

Halo 3 has the better enviroment and Killzone 2 has the better character models.aznfool07

Killzone 2 will probably have "better" graphics in every category. Hell if I care, because I hate its grey color pallet (somewhat like GeOW which also had a bad art style IMO). I like Halo's art style. It makes you want to have fun in the game. And since the game is actually fun, that's a good combo!

Killzone 2 looks much better than Halo 3 in my opinion and its barely in pre-pre-alpha. once the game gets out next year, it's going to blow Halo 3 out of the water.TOTAL_DEFENSE_0

Barely in pre pre alpha? Link?

Btw there's no such thing as pre pre alpha :lol:

You can't really compare.

It's like apples and oranges.

I say Halo 3, because it has MSAA 4X. The PS3 screenshot has no sign of any MSAA at all.

gnutux