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#251 genaroll
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[QUOTE="genaroll"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Ah, he's using just North American NPD region data, that's cool

Greenburg has a point, who would want to play Resistance 1 &2, Uncharted 1 & 2, Killzone 2, and God of War III?...when we can just play Halo 3 for 5+ years continuously? That's all we need anyways, just the one game. Go sales!

I have also noticed that when more people buy my favorite game, it makes the game better, have you guys noticed that too?

Wii Fit for instance, which has outsold Halo 3, and is far more expensive than Halo 3, is the most fun game I've ever played...partially because, I know more people bought it.

Greenburg makes a great point.

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genaroll - "Really impressive for the wii,too bad you can't say the same for the ps3."

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Yeah, too bad! :(...I guess I will be forced to continue to play a ton of high quality fantastic games instead of watching the sales...oh, the horror.

SolidTy

Don't those 3 games get boring?

You mean 6 Games? In my book, 6 High Quality Games > 1 High Quality Game. So keep bringing the games for me to play! :P I'm kind of strange, I love actually playing games more than studying sales, so please forgive me. :P

Here is the Six games I mentioned above :

  1. Resistance 1
  2. Resistance 2
  3. Uncharted 1
  4. Uncharted 2
  5. Killzone 2
  6. God of War III

That being said, I own 2 360's, lol, and I have over 100,000+ Gamerscore which proves I do play my 360 more than most gamers in SW. :P

From that list it looks like you just named random exclusives cause in that list the games are: Hyped,repeated,and mostly shooters doesn't heavy rain and demon's souls exist?
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#252 meluvulongtime8
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Hasn't Uncharted 2 won more awards than every Xbox 360 exclusive combined?? .:D not that it matters because Halo 3 sales don't make it a better game and Uncharted 2 winning a ton of awards doesn't make it any better either.... oops this is SW and huge sales make teh game more uber awesome.

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#253 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Ah, he's using just North American NPD region data, that's cool

Greenburg has a point, who would want to play Resistance 1 &2, Uncharted 1 & 2, Killzone 2, and God of War III?...when we can just play Halo 3 for 5+ years continuously? That's all we need anyways, just the one game. Go sales!

I have also noticed that when more people buy my favorite game, it makes the game better, have you guys noticed that too?

Wii Fit for instance, which has outsold Halo 3, and is far more expensive than Halo 3, is the most fun game I've ever played...partially because, I know more people bought it.

Greenburg makes a great point.

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genaroll - "Really impressive for the wii,too bad you can't say the same for the ps3."

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Yeah, too bad! :(...I guess I will be forced to continue to play a ton of high quality fantastic games instead of watching the sales...oh, the horror.

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genaroll - Don't those 3 games get boring?

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You mean 6 Games? In my book, 6 High Quality Games > 1 High Quality Game. So keep bringing the games for me to play! :P I'm kind of strange, I love actually playing games more than studying sales, so please forgive me. :P

Here is the Six games I mentioned above :

  1. Resistance 1
  2. Resistance 2
  3. Uncharted 1
  4. Uncharted 2
  5. Killzone 2
  6. God of War III

That being said, I own 2 360's, lol, and I have over 100,000+ Gamerscore which proves I do play my 360 more than most gamers in SW. :P

genaroll

From that list it looks like you just named random exclusives cause in that list the games are: Hyped,repeated,and mostly shooters doesn't heavy rain and demon's souls exist?

Random? Did you read the OP about M$ spokesman Aaron Greenburg or the Name of the Thread title? I didn't choose those games randomly, the are right at the top of the thread. I don't understand your argument, but even I know 3 > 1 game, by your own post above.

I didn't choose them randomly, Aarong Greenburg did. Check the thread you are posting in, that's what this topic is about. Are you even reading my posts, because I listed those 6 games since you first quoted me...:|

So, I guess the answer you want is :

Doesn't that One game get boring, compared to those six games? Considering I have that one game, Halo 3, I would rather have 6 games.Heck, Uncharted 2 alone got over 100+ GOTY awards, that alone would be fine for me. People don't realize Uncharted 2 is much better than Uncharted, and Uncharted was great.

As far as Demon's Souls and Heavy Rain, I didn't post a whole bunch of exclusives because I limited myself to the OP and response to the OP, which listed those six games sales compared to one game sales, using only limited NPD data. I was responding directly to the OP right from the start.

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#254 deactivated-594be627b82ba
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I still would take any of those games over halo 3

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#255 FrozenLiquid
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Hold it.

Can someone tell me where, in that quote from Aaron Greenburg, there is a qualitative affirmationof Halo 3 in correlation to its sales?

Or are people just throwing a hissy fit?

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#256 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Because sales = quality, amirite?

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In this regard, yes.
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#257 tutt3r
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wow i didnt think halo sold that much lol that is impressive

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#258 Lionheart08
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Who cares :?

Doesn't stop those games from being fun does it mr. greenburg

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That's my new favorite version. :lol:

But yeah, that's cool for Bungie...yeah.

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#259 Giancar
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[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="Episode_Eve"] :) Uncharted 2 won more AWARDS than Halo 3, Gears 2, Fable 2, Too Human, and Forza COMBINED. :)"SolidTy

this is gold...lol

WRONG! It's a Platinum! :P

> ;)

lol, good one!

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#260 Megaman5364
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Final Fantasy VIII > Halo 3.

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#261 killab2oo5
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:3 I Lol'ed. Nice one Greenburg.
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#262 EvanTheGamer
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Link, wow how arrogant, sad thing is he is only using NPD.

1stPlaceWinner

Yes, its sad that he is only using the biggest sales tracking site as well the one that is for western regions, as if japan sales would be significant :lol:

Cry moar lawl

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#263 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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In my book, 6 High Quality Games > 1 High Quality Game. So keep bringing the games for me to play! :P

SolidTy

I agree! :shock:

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#264 gundaicut
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Well so far i havnt found 1 good ps3 exclusive worth buying
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#265 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

OK, I knew Halo 3 outsold each individually... but it actually sold more than SIX major games, COMBINED???
Sure, he's being arrogant, but how many other games can stake this claim? Well???

HAZE-Unit

It's not rocket science, I can nitpick just like him :?

Last time I checked Halo 3 outsold Fable 2, Splinter Cell Conviction, Mass Effect 1+2, Alan Wake and Left 4 Dead too!!!

All he have is sales which is pathetic, that's the last resort someone can get with an argument.

He's the Product Manager for the Xbox 360, what do you expect? He was never claiming that Halo 3 was better than all those games, just boasting about the impressive sales numbers. And they are pretty damn impressive....
And it is not the only game that stake this claim buddy, I mean GTA san andrews sold 20M, Wii sports sold more than 40M, CODMW2 sold 18M, just imagine how many games Wiisports outsold? 20 games? 30 games?

HAZE-Unit

GTA San Andreas was available to a vastly larger install base on multiple consoles, Wii Sports is bundled with the Wii and Modern Warfare 2 is also open to a much lager install base. Admittedly 360 has sold more than the Ps3 in North America, but we're counting one game versus six here.

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#266 locopatho
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And Avatar was the highest grossing movie of last year: so what ?

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Avatar was amazing :D
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#267 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

In my book, 6 High Quality Games > 1 High Quality Game. So keep bringing the games for me to play! :P

Stevo_the_gamer

I agree! :shock:

:lol:

Hahaha...er...Well, What do you know? Lookit what we got here. :P

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#268 shinrabanshou
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He was never claiming that Halo 3 was better than all those games, just boasting about the impressive sales numbers.

angelkimne

It was basically flamebait.

What kind of reaction do you expect?

Everybody knows Halo sells. But it's not like games like Uncharted 2 or God of War III have sold poorly.

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#269 Bus-A-Bus
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Its funny that when Greenburg states a FACT cows turn internet upside down but when Kevin Butler or someone from sony says something for outselling or "Natal is crappy" they laugh.Greenburg owned Sony big time this time,way to go! :)

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#270 Megaman5364
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[QUOTE="R4gn4r0k"]

And Avatar was the highest grossing movie of last year: so what ?

locopatho
Avatar was amazing :D

Avatar was not amazing, it sucked ass, and the "good visuals" will become obselete in 10-20 years time leaving it a boring, distusining peice of trash.
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#271 locopatho
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="R4gn4r0k"]

And Avatar was the highest grossing movie of last year: so what ?

Megaman5364
Avatar was amazing :D

Avatar was not amazing, it sucked ass, and the "good visuals" will become obselete in 10-20 years time leaving it a boring, distusining peice of trash.

Great movie, great story and will look pretty forever :)
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#272 Ugalde-
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I still play Halo 3 everyday lol.
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#273 raynimrod
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Amazing... I'm sure Ford sell more cars than Ferrari, Porsche, and Lamborghini combined.


What does that mean? Nothing really.



Good for you M$ :|

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#274 tastetheacidmil
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[QUOTE="Cloud567kar"]

[QUOTE="djsifer01"]Still dosent change the fact that Halo3 is a boring overrated FPS. KZ2, R1 and R2 are better games. UC1 and UC2 blow Halo3 out of the water in every way possible.Grawse

Nice opinion.

Why do kids say this when they get but hurt? Obviously it's his opinion :?

he got butt hurt when i said i enjoyed ps3 games more then halo 3, sensitivity at its best
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#275 Bus-A-Bus
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Amazing... I'm sure Ford sell more cars than Ferrari, Porsche, and Lamborghini combined.


What does that mean? Nothing really.



Good for you M$ :|

raynimrod

No its not really like that...its more like Ferrari selling more than Porsche,Lambo,Aston Martin and Mercedes combined :)

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#276 tomarlyn
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Using 'teh salez!': Halo 3 is the greatest video game, Avatar is the greatest ever movie and Wii is the greatest console. Horrible, horrible world :(
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#277 0rin
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Playstation 3 may have 6 amazing exclusives, but we have one REALLY amazing exclusive!Aaron Greenberg
rrriiiiiiiiiight.... I'm sure Sony is reeling in agony over this. Hey Sony, you should really stop trying to turn exclusives for the 360 mutliplat, and focus on getting your own exclus.. oh wait.
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#278 Pug-Nasty
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Yeah for him, irrelevant to me. All those games will have sequels (well GoW aside, but thats for story reasons), so they all sold well enough for me to be happy...designer-

This. And, pretty funny, he seems to be showing just how many games the competition has over them.

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#279 dah_master
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Immovable object vs. Unstoppable force = xbox fanboys vs. ps3 fanboys :)

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#280 fabz_95
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Wow, that is very impressive.
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#281 XileLord
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It's not really arrogant to state the truth. Sales don't represent quality though.

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#282 tastetheacidmil
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hes only playing it safe from his comfort zone, worldwide wise hed flop harder then too human

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#283 FrozenLiquid
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Hold it.

Can someone tell me where, in that quote from Aaron Greenburg, there is a qualitative affirmation of Halo 3 in correlation to its sales?

Or are people just throwing a hissy fit?

FrozenLiquid

No one's able to answer my question?

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#284 siddhu33
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

Hold it.

Can someone tell me where, in that quote from Aaron Greenburg, there is a qualitative affirmation of Halo 3 in correlation to its sales?

Or are people just throwing a hissy fit?

FrozenLiquid

No one's able to answer my question?

More people should see this , This guy is right.

And, yes, people are throwing a hissy fit!

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#285 Indie_Hitman
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Just to clarify, I didn't mean every member of gufu is a fanboy. I meant that there's a fair few who I would question whether or not they should be in as society whose motto is 'Don't be a fanboy' or something along those lines. There are some very good debators in GUFU and I admit I should have been more careful with my wording, but no I am not ' mad' that I wasn't invited but I do realise how much of a **** I appear. XD
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#286 raynimrod
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[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

Amazing... I'm sure Ford sell more cars than Ferrari, Porsche, and Lamborghini combined.


What does that mean? Nothing really.



Good for you M$ :|

Bus-A-Bus

No its not really like that...its more like Ferrari selling more than Porsche,Lambo,Aston Martin and Mercedes combined :)

Sorry, I was making an insinuation about the quality (or lack thereof) of Halo 3 :P. Just my opinion of course.

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#287 jg4xchamp
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Halo 3 was a beast in the sales department so this isn't shocking. I believe it hit 10 million. I wonder how good Reach will do since it's set and primed to be a vastly superior Halo...hmmm.
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#288 jg4xchamp
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Just to clarify, I didn't mean every member of gufu is a fanboy. I meant that there's a fair few who I would question whether or not they should be in as society whose motto is 'Don't be a fanboy' or something along those lines. There are some very good debators in GUFU and I admit I should have been more careful with my wording, but no I am not ' mad' that I wasn't invited but I do realise how much of a **** I appear. XDIndie_Hitman
wait wait where the **** did this come from?
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#289 Indie_Hitman
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[QUOTE="Indie_Hitman"]Just to clarify, I didn't mean every member of gufu is a fanboy. I meant that there's a fair few who I would question whether or not they should be in as society whose motto is 'Don't be a fanboy' or something along those lines. There are some very good debators in GUFU and I admit I should have been more careful with my wording, but no I am not ' mad' that I wasn't invited but I do realise how much of a **** I appear. XDjg4xchamp
wait wait where the **** did this come from?

Page or two back - I was asleep.
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#290 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="Indie_Hitman"]Just to clarify, I didn't mean every member of gufu is a fanboy. I meant that there's a fair few who I would question whether or not they should be in as society whose motto is 'Don't be a fanboy' or something along those lines. There are some very good debators in GUFU and I admit I should have been more careful with my wording, but no I am not ' mad' that I wasn't invited but I do realise how much of a **** I appear. XDIndie_Hitman
wait wait where the **** did this come from?

Page or two back - I was asleep.

yeah like page 9...buzzkill I usually get to have some fun with those comments ;(
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#291 bryn8150
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wow...just WOW....MS has completely OWNED Sony this generation.

nothing sticks the truth home than cold hard numbers.....NOTHING.

one game, ONE GAME demolished all of Sony's Heavy hitters combined including the Mighty Cow savior Uncharted 2.

thats just Deep bro.....

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#292 kuraimen
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Arrogant like usual for MS employees. I still think that all those games are better than Halo 3 anyways.
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#293 siddhu33
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Halo 3 was a beast in the sales department so this isn't shocking. I believe it hit 10 million. I wonder how good Reach will do since it's set and primed to be a vastly superior Halo...hmmm.jg4xchamp

Larger 360 install base, an improved game, people who don't like Halo 3 like Reach..... Player Investment system.... Daily/Weekly challenges that change on the fly.......

I reckon reach will sell a metric ****-ton And stay on XBL top 10 for years.

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#294 siddhu33
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Arrogant like usual for MS employees. I still think that all those games are better than Halo 3 anyways.kuraimen

Yeah, I mean, not like Sony are any more or less Arrogant........

Those games being better than Halo 3 are irrelevant. This is about how Halo 3 has sold more than 6 of the PS3's best exclusive games that compete directly with it in the US market.

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#295 skrat_01
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All those arguing have been successfully baited.
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#296 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

[QUOTE="Alias_nemesis"]

wow, that's pretty arogant! :?

GreySeal9

Actually, according to the lemmings rules of SW...everything MS says is absolute truth and fact while ONLY Sony is capable of being arrogant or deceptively spinning facts in various press releases.

Much like the cows rule in which only MS is capable of making decisions based on money and while every decision Sony makes is for the betterment of gaming and because they care.

My point being: I really don't see the point of singling out one fanboy faction in this fashion.

Uhmmm...I'm pretty sure you made that up. Because the whole "Sony is arrogant" thing seems to have come from lemmings who wanted to talk about Sony milking customers and abusing their supposed "monopoly" and lying to gamers with fake promo-videos and CGI trailers. Then those same lemmings made a number of posts about how MS is the one who really loves and cares for hardcore gamers and they prove it by giving out 3 year warranties (when their console fails over and over), and free XBL games (when XBL fails), and by bundling hard drives with consoles last gen (but then removing the standard HDD this gen).

I GUARANTEE...I will bet actual money...that you search the SW archives and you will find more "MS truly cares" threads and posts than "Sony cares". I am so confident of this I will leave SW forever if proven wrong.

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#297 HavocV3
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sounds a lot like Sony at E3 2003.

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#298 Androvinus
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nintendo should just tap him on the back and say wii fit pwns them all
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#299 HavocV3
Member since 2009 • 8068 Posts

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Actually, according to the lemmings rules of SW...everything MS says is absolute truth and fact while ONLY Sony is capable of being arrogant or deceptively spinning facts in various press releases.

ZIMdoom

Much like the cows rule in which only MS is capable of making decisions based on money and while every decision Sony makes is for the betterment of gaming and because they care.

My point being: I really don't see the point of singling out one fanboy faction in this fashion.

Uhmmm...I'm pretty sure you made that up. Because the whole "Sony is arrogant" thing seems to have come from lemmings who wanted to talk about Sony milking customers and abusing their supposed "monopoly" and lying to gamers with fake promo-videos and CGI trailers. Then those same lemmings made a number of posts about how MS is the one who really loves and cares for hardcore gamers and they prove it by giving out 3 year warranties (when their console fails over and over), and free XBL games (when XBL fails), and by bundling hard drives with consoles last gen (but then removing the standard HDD this gen).

I GUARANTEE...I will bet actual money...that you search the SW archives and you will find more "MS truly cares" threads and posts than "Sony cares". I am so confident of this I will leave SW forever if proven wrong.

because Sony is arrogant? MS is slashed for greed, and SW loves to count them for things they don't do. (Hulu blocking the PS3's browser) because of M$. which is a rumor. and that Windows Mobile browser was blocked too.

they deserve many of those slashings, of course. Harddrives and especially the Wifi adapter.

-no, people are always spinning how Sony cares. I guess I'm that 'same lemming' and I don't say that stuff. some people acknowledge that some 3 year warranty is better than paying $180 to fix a console. though, some people need to learn that MS was required by law to do so.

-harddrives are used when cows try to say MS brought nothing to the game industry.

you're debating cause and effect here, this is system wars. cows/lemmings are the cause and effects. you're turning your head to act like cows do nothing to make lemmings say what they do. and vice versa.

Sony can be affiliated with arrogance, MS can be affiliated with greed. that's the adjective that seems to suit them both best. why does MS need to take Sony's burden, Sony pulls BS all the time. and most of the time, it's arrogancy that defines Sony's actions.

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#300 angelkimne
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It was basically flamebait.shinrabanshou
They're just sales numbers, they can't hurt you, and they certainly don't have any effect on quality - nobody claimed they did. It certainly seems to have hit a few nerves though.
What kind of reaction do you expect?shinrabanshou
A reaction that is justified and logical?
Everybody knows Halo sells. But it's not like games like Uncharted 2 or God of War III have sold poorly.shinrabanshou
They didn't sell poorly, which is why the statistic is pretty wow-ish.