Groundbreaking games this gen?

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[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"] Nothing come close. it sum up how to make FPS and how all FPS should be like.SNIPER4321

What so every game should have poor and janky gunplay, and focus on atmosphere, aswell as being bugladen at launch (i remember it well when i was running a Nvidia 6600 back in the day hahaha i was poor and couldnt be assed upgrading but it as above min spec) aswell as basically needing an overhaul by modders.

Nah thats not my ideal groundbreaking game.

Im gonna go with nothing really, theeres no games i can think of that stand out a lot this gen innovation wise apart from mayble assasins creed and its movement or fifa and its player impact engine.

eh i have played it, or do you fail to have any form of reading ability, i remember it well back in the day when i had a rig with a 6600 which was above minimum.I played it and honestly i dont think it was all that amazing purely cause the pissspoor gameplay brought the game down, dont get me wrong its a fantastic concept but much like metro its shooting mechanic really brings it down.

STALKER has like best gunplay Ever....SNIPER4321

Sure if you enjoy really janky gunplay then yes..which seems to be a recurring trend with your favourite games is pisspoor gunplay.It doesnt feel natural compared to say Battlefield it just feels janky and terrible its not smooth sure theres nice bullet physics but its really offset by the pisspoor design.

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]STALKER has like best gunplay Ever....SNIPER4321

Sure if you enjoy really janky gunplay then yes..which seems to be a recurring trend with your favourite games is pisspoor gunplay.It doesnt feel natural compared to say Battlefield it just feels janky and terrible its not smooth sure theres nice bullet physics but its really offset by the pisspoor design.

It's much easier in Arma :P

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]STALKER has like best gunplay Ever....SNIPER4321

Sure if you enjoy really janky gunplay then yes..which seems to be a recurring trend with your favourite games is pisspoor gunplay.It doesnt feel natural compared to say Battlefield it just feels janky and terrible its not smooth sure theres nice bullet physics but its really offset by the pisspoor design.

.....im not even going to bother arguing with you any more because your honestly that ignorant and dimwitted its unbelievable.

I make a good point of Stalkers gunplay being pathetic and you slide round it and rip on halo and CoD because be truthul its the only arguement you actually have..just wait what next the medias corrupt because they dont share your opinion on gaming.

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]STALKER has like best gunplay Ever....SNIPER4321

Sure if you enjoy really janky gunplay then yes..which seems to be a recurring trend with your favourite games is pisspoor gunplay.It doesnt feel natural compared to say Battlefield it just feels janky and terrible its not smooth sure theres nice bullet physics but its really offset by the pisspoor design.

Battlefeild Bad Company 2, Crysis I, Half Life 2, Bioshock,Resistance 2, Killzone 2, COD Modern Warfare I,Halo Reach are far superior to Stalker. Check all these games are 9.0 or above in gamespot and highly popular amongst gamers.

Hell only decent Stalker games was Call of pripyat (unbroken) and was really best of the series. Stalker shadows of chernobyl, clear sky are all broken, glitched games.

What are you even comparing Stalker games with some of the best FPS games out there ? lol

EDIT: But i'll say Stalker got potential. It may improve to be super in future.

Score mean anything?? Metacrtic mean anything?? Its all money talks.SNIPER4321

nope.

I enjoy many poorly rated games as VTMB. Don't care what reviews says and i consider it awesome rpg. But its my own opinion man.

You can say Stalker is one of the best fps games, but its certainly not best FPS ever lol.

As i said Stalker got potential, can be really great and can even be better than many. But devs have to work hard really on it to make it best.

[QUOTE="indzman"]

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]Score mean anything?? Metacrtic mean anything?? Its all money talks.SNIPER4321

nope.

I enjoy many poorly rated games as VTMB. Don't care what reviews says and i consider it awesome rpg. But its my own opinion man.

You can say Stalker is one of the best fps games, but its certainly not best FPS ever lol.

As i said Stalker got potential, can be really great and can even be better than many. But devs have to work hard really on it to make it best.

Thats your personal opinion and i respect that since you enjoy Stalker series most.

But since its SW many like me will always argue with you if you say Stalker is best , as they don't find Stalker to be best or find some other fps games to be best heh.

off topic, any new stalker game in development?

[QUOTE="candyassgames"][QUOTE="indzman"]

qft

indzman

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It's that heewee, wewantdoom4 guy, just ignore him.

As for groundbreaking games hmm...

I dunno, can't think of any game that was truly groundbreaking this gen, maybe LBP and Minecraft for their advancments with user created content.

[QUOTE="indzman"]

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]Score mean anything?? Metacrtic mean anything?? Its all money talks.SNIPER4321

nope.

I enjoy many poorly rated games as VTMB. Don't care what reviews says and i consider it awesome rpg. But its my own opinion man.

You can say Stalker is one of the best fps games, but its certainly not best FPS ever lol.

As i said Stalker got potential, can be really great and can even be better than many. But devs have to work hard really on it to make it best.

you say the media is corrupt because they dont agree with you.

Please could you provide proof that they are corrupt, and if you cant can you just bloody stop using it for a lame excuse to rip on games that scored higher and generally do so because they are a better quality product at launch?

[QUOTE="indzman"]

[QUOTE="candyassgames"] fail to realize it's a fail winback copy Snugenz

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It's that heewee, wewantdoom4 guy, just ignore him.

Should have guessed lol.

[QUOTE="indzman"] any new stalker game in development?SNIPER4321

dayum

For altering the environment, it'll always be FSX for me:

off topic, any new stalker game in development?

indzman

[QUOTE="Zeviander"]Bioshock, groundbreaking? :lol: It was System Shock 2 with less RPG elements and a new coat of paint. I can give you Demon's Souls, as it actually did add something groundbreaking to gaming.indzman

But bioshock and system shock are so different in many respectives :|

Like what? The story and setting? The elements that make up the gameplay were pretty much exactly the same. System Shock had a better story, more RPG elements and a better, more creepy atmosphere.Nothing groundbreaking about Bioshock, that type of game was done better eight years before.

Uncharted 2: Among Thieves.

[QUOTE="indzman"]

off topic, any new stalker game in development?

parkurtommo

mmo? Thanks but i think i'll pass :P

[QUOTE="indzman"]

[QUOTE="Zeviander"]Bioshock, groundbreaking? :lol: It was System Shock 2 with less RPG elements and a new coat of paint. I can give you Demon's Souls, as it actually did add something groundbreaking to gaming.pelvist

But bioshock and system shock are so different in many respectives :|

Like what? The story and setting? The elements that make up the gameplay were pretty much exactly the same. System Shock had a better story, more RPG elements and a better, more creepy atmosphere.Nothing groundbreaking about Bioshock, that type of game was done better eight years before.

SS 2 was in sci fi setting whereas Bioshock is in different setting ( underwater city). I felt Bioshock is more polished, better combat, eye candy graphics and a cool story.

Batman Arkham Asylum

Demon Souls

inb4uall

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]The only groundbreaking game was Crysis.GreenGoblin2099

Crysis didn't win sh!t. MGS4, on the other hand, practically won everything... PC also lose!! :cool:

MGS4 is the most least deserving 10 score Gamespot has ever given. I dont believe any of the games that scored that high deserve a 10/10 but MGS4 wasnt even a 7/10 in my book. The dissapointment I had after playing MGS4 is one of the reasons I finally gave up on the PS3 and gave it to my nephew.

The score MGS4 got actually makes me believe all the things people say about paid review scores. I imagine that if someone can think that highly of such a boring and clunky game that has more cut scenes than actual gameplay then you cant really have played many games.

Can't think of any for some reason.

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[QUOTE="Jebus213"]The only groundbreaking game was Crysis.pelvist

Crysis didn't win sh!t. MGS4, on the other hand, practically won everything... PC also lose!! :cool:

MGS4 is the most least deserving 10 score Gamespot has ever given. I dont believe any of the games that scored that high deserve a 10/10 but MGS4 wasnt even a 7/10 in my book. The dissapointment I had after playing MGS4 is one of the reasons I finally gave up on the PS3 and gave it to my nephew.

The score MGS4 got actually makes me believe all the things people say about paid review scores. I imagine that if someone can think that highly of such a boring and clunky game that has more cut scenes than actual gameplay then you cant really have played many games.

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]The only groundbreaking game was Crysis.pelvist

Crysis didn't win sh!t. MGS4, on the other hand, practically won everything... PC also lose!! :cool:

MGS4 is the most least deserving 10 score Gamespot has ever given. I dont believe any of the games that scored that high deserve a 10/10 but MGS4 wasnt even a 7/10 in my book. The dissapointment I had after playing MGS4 is one of the reasons I finally gave up on the PS3 and gave it to my nephew.

The score MGS4 got actually makes me believe all the things people say about paid review scores. I imagine that if someone can think that highly of such a boring and clunky game that has more cut scenes than actual gameplay then you cant really have played many games.

All im saying is THPS3.

thats all, it was a good game but no way a 10...in no single way was it ever a 10.

Are we talking about games which won bunch of prizes, or are we talking about games that really moved gameplay boundaries?

If we talk about the latter, then:

Stalker - if we ignore fistfull of bugs it's a really groundbreaking FPS experience
COD 4 - first FPS to introduce real cinematic FPS gameplay
Metro 2033
Total War games
Crysis - for its incredible graphics and sanbox gameplay
GTA 4
Assassin's Creed series
FIFA 12 - the best footy experience to date
The Witcher - didn't really invent anything new, but still it's one of the best WRPGs to date.
Mass Effect - probably the first game to truly combine great RPG elements with TPS.
Diablo 3 - don't understand the bashing. I like this game so much. IMO, one of the best action RPGs this gen.

Halo 3 Halo OSDT Halo Wars Halo Reach Halo: Combat Revolved Halo 4 Halo 5 and last but not list Halo 6. Earth-shattnering games, no other game comes close.Oreobind

Anyhoo, Rare games and although it's really not for me and I know some won't like this but it's true... Kinect & it's games. :o :P

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]Please could you provide proof that they are corrupt,SNIPER4321

what a robust game, despite the hate it gets doesnt deserve awards?

MW2 was a robust package and undeniably one of the better games content wise at launch despite its short comings and flawed killstreak design its still an overall better feeling product than Stalker was at launch.

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]Gears of War, Call of Duty 4, and GTA4 are the most groundbreakingSun_Universe

This.

GTA 4

Perfect score

It was the first amazingly well done atmospheric FPS post-Half Life 2. That's more than enough for me.NAPK1NS

[QUOTE="Zeviander"]Bioshock, groundbreaking? :lol: It was System Shock 2 with less RPG elements and a new coat of paint. I can give you Demon's Souls, as it actually did add something groundbreaking to gaming.NAPK1NS

But it's not original nor is it innovative. Originality is incredibly hard to pull of in this day and age, every single foundation has ben explored, the only thing left is to build upon it.

But there are games that are groundbreaking in certain aspects, not as a whole. Like Crysis with its graphics.

Mass Effect 2.

Mine are the following...

Silent Hill Shattered Memories

Xenoblade Chronicles

Vanquish

And... that's about it. I fail to see how a game like bioshock can be called groundbreaking.

[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"]It was the first amazingly well done atmospheric FPS post-Half Life 2. That's more than enough for me.Zeviander

I can agree with that. The atmosphere, graphics and sound were good in Bioshock, but the story and gameplay left alot to be desired. Really not that great of a game.

My favourite games, not only visually, but as a whole.

Mass Effect

Uncharted 2

Left 4 Dead

BF Bad Company 2

Super Mario Galaxy 2

Red Dead Redemption

Gears of War 3

TES V: Skyrim

Trials Evolution

Skyrim is ny only 10/10 this gen.

I really have a difficult time trying to think of a game this gen that was groundbreaking. That would imply that something popular did something revolutionary. Pretty much all the big popular games this gen were incredibly derivative. As much as I dislike the series, I suppose the answer would have to be Gears of War sue to its popularization of the cover system. otherwise its the niche games that are innovating, but aren't being mimicked. The games that personally impacted me the most would be

-Super Mario Galaxy 2

-Batman Arkham Asylum and City

-Rayman Origins

-The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword

-Darksiders II

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Heavy Rain?

[QUOTE="Zeviander"] ...have you played System Shock 2? If you have, I don't know how you can ignore such blatant parallels.jethrovegas

There are countless parallels, again, in terms of the schematic, or gameplay floorplan. I could list a thousand different things in terms of levels design solely; sentry turrets, cameras, vending machines, it's all there in one way or another, not to mention the presentation of environment over interaction, audio logs, etc. With that I agree. And the game is shallower, yes, no one would debate that, I don't think. I could also argue that BioShock's combat is significantly distinct in a way not derived from the scraps of its predecessor, focusing more on flexibility and experimentation, that is, as an action game, not a survival experience (light wine bottle with Incinerate, pick up with Telekinesis, throw, murder burning victim with tonic enhanced pipe wrench, etc.), but I don't feel the need to get into all that.

The point I'm making is that the story, in every way, outside maybe of basic structure (an arrival into a strange and f*cked up place, listen to this dude on the comms who later betrays) is wholly distinct and original. The parallel of Atlas' revealed as Fontaine and Polito as SHODAN is one minor note in the full orchestration and hardly the crux of the twist to begin with, which was more about commenting on the FPS genre and horrifying the player with knowledge of their chracter's sordid origin (Fort Frolic club sequence much?).

BioShock surpassed its relatively simple core plot with a plethora of interesting ideas and relations between them; all of those others elements, the commentary on Rand especially, was clearly groundbreaking in video games, in any medium really; there has never been a satire like BioShock, there's nothing else like it, in literature, film, whatever. That SS2 and BioShock share some devices of plot and structure means little beside the original vision that BioShock lays on the table.