GS: Donkey Kong Country Returns - Review

Once we are able to read the written review, I can see some behaving like this:

Looks like the review is down even after clicking the 8.5. This is lol. What GS doing? Is this part of a plan?!

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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"] It received a 9.5 at first?NaveedLife

Should have stayed that way too :P.

Fellow GS members, I must admit to you, that this in not actually apart of GS' plan but my plan:twisted:

Just wait, you will amazed :o

Review is up now. Seems like the game suffers from controls being clumsy at times.

Edit: Nevermind it down again ROFL.

Looks like the review is down even after clicking the 8.5. This is lol. What GS doing? Is this part of a plan?

Wanderer5

Cool, review is up :)

Review is up now. Seems like the game suffers from controls being clumsy at times.

Edit: Nevermind it down again ROFL.

Wanderer5

Clunky controlls eh? Then it truly is a DKC sequel.

this is frikkin bullcrap lol. It really is. THE ONLY problem they have with a game they keep praising is that the controls are occasially a tad clumsy, but if you fall into a hole it will be your fault.....and other reviewers and people I have heard playing the game have said it controls fine. I dont see how this doesnt get a 9 or higher, but whatever. I could give a crap (personally) about GS's review. I just hate that they gave it an 8.5 due to media lol.

Only complaint is the controls, which I agree with. I honestly don't understand why they chose to map the roll with waggle:? It is obvious why it is a bad idea, yet how did Retro and Nintendo not see it? I actually thought it would be a complaint when I first heard about it, but no previews complained about.

this is frikkin bullcrap lol. It really is. THE ONLY problem they have with a game they keep praising is that the controls are occasially a tad clumsy, but if you fall into a hole it will be your fault.....and other reviewers and people I have heard playing the game have said it controls fine. I dont see how this doesnt get a 9 or higher, but whatever. I could give a crap (personally) about GS's review. I just hate that they gave it an 8.5 due to media lol.

NaveedLife

It is one man's opinion, and controls are a big part of the game. And what exactly does the media have to do with this?

this is frikkin bullcrap lol. It really is. THE ONLY problem they have with a game they keep praising is that the controls are occasially a tad clumsy, but if you fall into a hole it will be your fault.....and other reviewers and people I have heard playing the game have said it controls fine. I dont see how this doesnt get a 9 or higher, but whatever. I could give a crap (personally) about GS's review. I just hate that they gave it an 8.5 due to media lol.

NaveedLife

Tom also mentions that the boss fights are not particularly imaginative despite being beautiful. Though, the rest of his review is incredibly glowing! Seems like a must have title to me(which, i agree with). Plus, i'm pretty sure Tom isn't one to throw out the high scores(i may be wrong, but i think the only retail games abvove 8.5 from him are GoW3 and SMG2 this year).

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this is frikkin bullcrap lol. It really is. THE ONLY problem they have with a game they keep praising is that the controls are occasially a tad clumsy, but if you fall into a hole it will be your fault.....and other reviewers and people I have heard playing the game have said it controls fine. I dont see how this doesnt get a 9 or higher, but whatever. I could give a crap (personally) about GS's review. I just hate that they gave it an 8.5 due to media lol.

bobcheeseball

It is one man's opinion, and controls are a big part of the game. And what exactly does the media have to do with this?

I mean because of the poor Wii getting such a bad rap (media). Lol I know badly worded. I am just saying everyone else seems to be doing fine with the controls, but whatever.

Wow :|

GS flops another wii game big surprise :roll:

Game looks awesome from the video review. Bought the game earlier today and will play it during my Thanksgiving break.

Only complaint is the controls, which I agree with. I honestly don't understand why they chose to map the roll with waggle:? It is obvious why it is a bad idea, yet how did Retro and Nintendo not see it? I actually thought it would be a complaint when I first heard about it, but no previews complained about.

AmayaPapaya

Huh yeah I had not heard about it. How bad is it?

At this point, I actually find the Wii's AAE streak to be quite humorous, rather than get upset.

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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

this is frikkin bullcrap lol. It really is. THE ONLY problem they have with a game they keep praising is that the controls are occasially a tad clumsy, but if you fall into a hole it will be your fault.....and other reviewers and people I have heard playing the game have said it controls fine. I dont see how this doesnt get a 9 or higher, but whatever. I could give a crap (personally) about GS's review. I just hate that they gave it an 8.5 due to media lol.

NaveedLife

It is one man's opinion, and controls are a big part of the game. And what exactly does the media have to do with this?

I mean because of the poor Wii getting such a bad rap (media). Lol I know badly worded. I am just saying everyone else seems to be doing fine with the controls, but whatever.

this is frikkin bullcrap lol. It really is. THE ONLY problem they have with a game they keep praising is that the controls are occasially a tad clumsy, but if you fall into a hole it will be your fault.....and other reviewers and people I have heard playing the game have said it controls fine. I dont see how this doesnt get a 9 or higher, but whatever. I could give a crap (personally) about GS's review. I just hate that they gave it an 8.5 due to media lol.

NaveedLife

This is my problem. In the review he states that their are instances of clumsy control that causes problems and or death BUT most of the time you have only yourself to blame. Its amazing that this is put in the same boat as NSMBW( a lazy, uninspired,DS rehash with horrible artistic design)because of waggle issues.. Ok thanks for your time GS, if it wasn't for your forums hardly anyone would be here. Kane and Lynch much?
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Gamespot drops another notch in the credibility department...

Captain_Lorelli

It's just a review :/

this is frikkin bullcrap lol. It really is. THE ONLY problem they have with a game they keep praising is that the controls are occasially a tad clumsy, but if you fall into a hole it will be your fault.....and other reviewers and people I have heard playing the game have said it controls fine. I dont see how this doesnt get a 9 or higher, but whatever.

NaveedLife

3. Are there any common System Warsmisconceptions about the review process at GameSpot you'd like to clear up?Or would you like to shed some light onthe whole thing?

I think the most common misconception is that all games start as perfect tens and then have points deducted when we find things wrong with them. That's not how we work at all. Games have to earn every point and half-point that they get, so it'd be more accurate to say that all games start out as ones. I also find it strange that scores of 7.0 and above are somehow considered failures or "flops". Fable III, for example, scored a 7.5. 7.0 means good, 8.0 means great, so 7.5 pretty much means very good. Last time I checked, that's a positive evaluation.SWM interview with Justin Calvert

In other words, as has been said a million times by the reviewing staff, a game with no flaws is not necessarily as good as it could possibly be.

It's a conspiracy

Once we are able to read the written review, I can see some behaving like this:

thom_maytees

Search your feelings, You know it to be true!

can someone describe their issues with the controls and how often and bad is it? thanks! :)

Very expected.

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[QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]

It is one man's opinion, and controls are a big part of the game. And what exactly does the media have to do with this?

bobcheeseball

I mean because of the poor Wii getting such a bad rap (media). Lol I know badly worded. I am just saying everyone else seems to be doing fine with the controls, but whatever.

I'm only finishing world 3, but so far i'm not sure i agree personally but i can certainly see how it would be off putting for some. I am not surprised to see it as a complaint in a review. Likewise i'm not surprised to see some reviewers note that it's a positive thing(gametrailers).

based on how positive his review sounded, i'm willing to bet Tom was highly considering the editor's choice.

Yeah I called it. Although I would like to be surprised for once GS. :P

I can't wait to get it. :D

can someone describe their issues with the controls and how often and bad is it? thanks! :)

NaveedLife

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Gamespot drops another notch in the credibility department...

fend_oblivion

It's just a review :/

But it is so predictable. Since we are in the FPS age(dark age) of gaming, everything is being homogenized to that style of play. Lets be honest, there was little doubt in our minds that Call of Duty or Halo Reach would score a 9+ here was there? FPS's are the selling brand right now, not 2d platformers. I just don't understand it.

[QUOTE="fend_oblivion"]

[QUOTE="Captain_Lorelli"]

Gamespot drops another notch in the credibility department...

Captain_Lorelli

It's just a review :/

But it is so predictable. Since we are in the FPS age(dark age) of gaming, everything is being homogenized to that style of play. Lets be honest, there was little doubt in our minds that Call of Duty or Halo Reach would score a 9+ here was there? FPS's are the selling brand right now, not 2d platformers. I just don't understand it.

What happened with Super Meat Boy?

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

can someone describe their issues with the controls and how often and bad is it? thanks! :)

bobcheeseball

i'll add my opinion :D

the blowing does kind of slow down the pacing but there are some neat moments where it is implemented. the ground pound is always fun to do, no complaints about that one in the least! the roll is the trickiest one to comment on since it's incredibly important in the platforming. it takes some getting used to, it'd be nicer if this one was a button press. But, i've found that it doesn't stop me from being able to do some of the trickier parts that require rolls. You really do start to get a feel for it, and it can be kind of exhilarating in some of the crazy levels(have you tried 1-k?). It's especially fun when you have diddy and can do an infinite roll! If you didn't really enjoy some of the motions in galaxy or nsmbwii, i'll bet you'll have more complaints with dkcr. But Tom is right, dieing is still your fault not the controls.

regardless, It's insane that retro didn't think to offer classic controller support or GC controller.. would've easily solved this issue for those that didn't enjoy the wii controls.

OMG!:shock:

I read the first couple of post, they were joking about "inb48.5conspiracies". :lol:

The thread is full of conspiracy theories.:o

The Wii has an AAAAE platformer I don't see how this can happen in the scale this thread shows.

Again? :?

That is an outlier, and not produced by Nintendo, the kings of 8.5 gameson Gamespot.

What happened with Super Meat Boy?

tagyhag

Tight Controls and on the Xbox 360 and in HD.

[QUOTE="bobcheeseball"][QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

can someone describe their issues with the controls and how often and bad is it? thanks! :)

blahzor

i'll add my opinion :D

the blowing does kind of slow down the pacing but there are some neat moments where it is implemented. the ground pound is always fun to do, no complaints about that one in the least! the roll is the trickiest one to comment on since it's incredibly important in the platforming. it takes some getting used to, it'd be nicer if this one was a button press. But, i've found that it doesn't stop me from being able to do some of the trickier parts that require rolls. You really do start to get a feel for it, and it can be kind of exhilarating in some of the crazy levels(have you tried 1-k?). It's especially fun when you have diddy and can do an infinite roll! If you didn't really enjoy some of the motions in galaxy or nsmbwii, i'll bet you'll have more complaints with dkcr.

regardless, It's insane that retro didn't think to offer classic controller support or GC controller.. would've easily solved this issue for those that didn't enjoy the wii controls.

What are the various motions used? Thanks for the help!

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[QUOTE="bobcheeseball"] I've been really busy so I've only beaten World 1 at this point so this probably isn't the best source. The blowing thing seems kind of forced, and the roll isn't quit as precise/fluid as I would've liked. I expect I'll get used to this however. But still in the end, the game is awesome :) (so far)NaveedLife

i'll add my opinion :D

the blowing does kind of slow down the pacing but there are some neat moments where it is implemented. the ground pound is always fun to do, no complaints about that one in the least! the roll is the trickiest one to comment on since it's incredibly important in the platforming. it takes some getting used to, it'd be nicer if this one was a button press. But, i've found that it doesn't stop me from being able to do some of the trickier parts that require rolls. You really do start to get a feel for it, and it can be kind of exhilarating in some of the crazy levels(have you tried 1-k?). It's especially fun when you have diddy and can do an infinite roll! If you didn't really enjoy some of the motions in galaxy or nsmbwii, i'll bet you'll have more complaints with dkcr.

regardless, It's insane that retro didn't think to offer classic controller support or GC controller.. would've easily solved this issue for those that didn't enjoy the wii controls.

What are the various motions used? Thanks for the help!

for the wii mote on its side;
waggle = ground pound
waggle + down on dpad = blow
waggle + forward on dpad = roll

in order to do those motions using the remote and chuk i believe the only difference is that you have to waggle the chuk as well.

I also don't see why people are complaining.
The game got 8.5.That means great.