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#51 Wanderer5
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Sweet I glad it got a good score.
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#52 Super-Mario-Fan
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[QUOTE="JLAudio7"]not bashing the game in anyway (im gonna get it on sunday) but 8.5 seems kinda high after what ive heard about the unbalanced items and the next-to-impossible 150cc (from ign's review). oh well ill hope for the best this sunday.sexy_chimp

Yeah I agree.

Nintendo definately did not put near as much effort into this as they did SSBB or SMG, which is very dissapointing.

The only reason I'm getting this game is for my sister, who really wants to play it.

Dammit, even after the positive review, people can not stop talking about disappointment.

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#53 air_wolf_cubed
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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="anshul89"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]it is a possibility that GS thought those games deserved those scores
anshul89
when the hell did i say that ? :? (your sig) remove it now.

i remember you said it a very long time ago. i need to fin something to switch it with

lol i would never say such a thing *points at my sig*. remove it now otherwise you'll have to deal with the mods.

there. i hope you are able to sleep now
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#54 sexy_chimp
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[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

[QUOTE="JLAudio7"]not bashing the game in anyway (im gonna get it on sunday) but 8.5 seems kinda high after what ive heard about the unbalanced items and the next-to-impossible 150cc (from ign's review). oh well ill hope for the best this sunday.Super-Mario-Fan

Yeah I agree.

Nintendo definately did not put near as much effort into this as they did SSBB or SMG, which is very dissapointing.

The only reason I'm getting this game is for my sister, who really wants to play it.

Dammit, even after the positive review, people can not stop talking about disappointment.

Should I let someone elses opinion take over my own opinion?

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#55 Hockey_Slayer
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Sweet. i'll be picking it up down the road.
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#56 anshul89
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[QUOTE="anshul89"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="anshul89"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]it is a possibility that GS thought those games deserved those scores
air_wolf_cubed
when the hell did i say that ? :? (your sig) remove it now.

i remember you said it a very long time ago. i need to fin something to switch it with

lol i would never say such a thing *points at my sig*. remove it now otherwise you'll have to deal with the mods.

there. i hope you are able to sleep now

lol
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#57 darkslider99
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Great score ^.^ can't wait to play. Shame I work sunday :( and I can't find my slip...and work whilst EB Games is opened...so I can't get it till monday >.
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#58 blahzor
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I was expecting this score pretty much. Nintendo game score have been like this ever since the TP fans thre w a fit.vashkey

That and the remaining reviewers are such sheep.

I'm calling you out Lark, you're such a fanboy

:D

of course, that is if we rightfully so exclude his Fire Emblem review. I won't be having any evidence that supports otherwise!

Anyways, MK games are always a blast to play. I'll be getting this one as soon as my exams finish next week, can't wait to play against some of you :)

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#59 darkslider99
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[QUOTE="Super-Mario-Fan"]

Dammit, even after the positive review, people can not stop talking about disappointment.

sexy_chimp

Should I let someone elses opinion take over my own opinion?


Exactly...honestly now. We're clearly all Nintendo fans, who are going to love their game..we're just surprised it didn';t have points docked due to the problems mentioned by IGN and Gametrailers. And I was dissapointed by Halo 3....and Halo 1...and never bothered with 2...I think the games are medicore at best. Is that not allowed?
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#60 darkslider99
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[QUOTE="vashkey"]I was expecting this score pretty much. Nintendo game score have been like this ever since the TP fans thre w a fit.blahzor

That and the remaining reviewers are such sheep.

I'm calling you out Lark, you're such a fanboy

:D

of course, that is if we rightfully so exclude his Fire Emblem review. I won't be having any evidence that supports otherwise!

Anyways, MK games are always a blast to play. I'll be getting this one as soon as my exams finish next week, can't wait to play against some of you :)


I'm so going to own you blahzor :P speaking of which... we'll need to brawl again soon!
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#61 Tragic_Kingdom7
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[QUOTE="BrownWalrus"]I swear it seems like GS hands out high scores too Wii games all the time, but low to PS3 games all the time. It's the exact opposite almost everywhere else....(save for a few games that truly deserve their score, such as Mario Galaxy)sexy_chimp

Maybe because the Wii has good games and the PS3 has bad games.

Nonsense.

Both libraries are mediocre in their own way.

To achieve a good game library there has to be balance. Balance doesn't exist in either library.

The Wii has good exclusives, but is lacking in everything else.

The PS3 has decent third party support, but is lacking badly in exclusives.

You could argue for either one, but to say the Wii has "good" games and the PS3 has "bad" games is supremely stupid.

Also, the PS3 exclusives are by no means bad (Uncharted is really good), they're just not amazing like Super Mario Galaxy.

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#62 air_wolf_cubed
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lolanshul89
lol be a crybaby about it. who cares
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#63 sexy_chimp
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[QUOTE="anshul89"]lolair_wolf_cubed
lol be a crybaby about it. who cares

You guys need to grow up!

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#64 sexy_chimp
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[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

[QUOTE="BrownWalrus"]I swear it seems like GS hands out high scores too Wii games all the time, but low to PS3 games all the time. It's the exact opposite almost everywhere else....(save for a few games that truly deserve their score, such as Mario Galaxy)Tragic_Kingdom7

Maybe because the Wii has good games and the PS3 has bad games.

Nonsense.

Both libraries are mediocre in their own way.

To achieve a good game library there has to be balance. Balance doesn't exist in either library.

The Wii has good exclusives, but is lacking in everything else.

The PS3 has decent third party support, but is lacking badly in exclusives.

You could argue for either one, but to say the Wii has "good" games and the PS3 has "bad" games is supremely stupid.

Also, the PS3 exclusives are by no means bad (Uncharted is really good), they're just not amazing like Super Mario Galaxy.

Exclusives are more important than multiplats, I don't care what you say.

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#65 deactivated-6075a5c511e8b
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AA. Nice :).
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#66 anshul89
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[QUOTE="anshul89"]lolair_wolf_cubed
lol be a crybaby about it. who cares

if you didnt care, you would have changed it without having to tell you repeatedly to change it :|
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#67 air_wolf_cubed
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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="anshul89"]lolanshul89
lol be a crybaby about it. who cares

if you didnt care, you would have changed it without having to tell you repeatedly to change it :|

fact is i did change it. i changed it back for obvious reasons
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#68 monkeysrfat
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Nice score. Bring on the hard 150cc I need a challenge.

Only disappointing thing is no free for all battle mode and item switch options like in smash bros. I F***** hate blue shells:x

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#69 Tragic_Kingdom7
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[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

[QUOTE="BrownWalrus"]I swear it seems like GS hands out high scores too Wii games all the time, but low to PS3 games all the time. It's the exact opposite almost everywhere else....(save for a few games that truly deserve their score, such as Mario Galaxy)sexy_chimp

Maybe because the Wii has good games and the PS3 has bad games.

Nonsense.

Both libraries are mediocre in their own way.

To achieve a good game library there has to be balance. Balance doesn't exist in either library.

The Wii has good exclusives, but is lacking in everything else.

The PS3 has decent third party support, but is lacking badly in exclusives.

You could argue for either one, but to say the Wii has "good" games and the PS3 has "bad" games is supremely stupid.

Also, the PS3 exclusives are by no means bad (Uncharted is really good), they're just not amazing like Super Mario Galaxy.

Exclusives are more important than multiplats, I don't care what you say.

The bolded part is pretty telling. And unless you give a reason to why exclusives are more important to the overall integrity of the library, you're just blowing hot air.

As far as I'm concerned, a library should be judged in its entirety. That is the only way to objectively look at it. If both libraries are judged in their entirety, they are both fairly lacking right now.

Also, even if exclusives were more important (which you haven't given any good reason for), the whole PS3 has "bad" games thing is still silly. The exclusives are not bad, they are decent, but nothing special.

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#70 haziqonfire
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extremely boring according to James Mielkie(spelling) over at 1up. "

Another rehash, and another mariokart, driving around another theme park, ds version is much better overall, more of the same, removed some features that the Gamecube had but added some, subpar online and lacking in features"

mismajor99

Too bad EGM/1up suck eh?
Horrible idea changing to a letter system, not to mention how they never take any of their reviews seriously, and have dumb points for the summaries.
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The bolded part is pretty telling. And unless you give a reason to why exclusives are more important to the overall integrity of the library, you're just blowing hot air.

As far as I'm concerned, a library should be judged in its entirety. That is the only way to objectively look at it. If both libraries are judged in their entirety, they are both fairly lacking right now.

Also, even if exclusives were more important (which you haven't given any good reason for), the whole PS3 has "bad" games thing is still silly. The exclusives are not bad, they are decent, but nothing special.

Tragic_Kingdom7

It's kind of obvious, I didn't think I would need to explain.

Both of them matter, but exclusives matter more. Exclusives can only be played on one console, therefore if you want to play an exclusive on a console, you MUST buy that console. If you want to buy a multiplat, you do not have to buy a certian console, and therefore you would base your purchase on exclusives. Exclusives, most of the time, decide which system you would buy. Multiplats influence that decision, but they do not finalize it.

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#72 anshul89
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[QUOTE="anshul89"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="anshul89"]lolair_wolf_cubed
lol be a crybaby about it. who cares

if you didnt care, you would have changed it without having to tell you repeatedly to change it :|

fact is i did change it. i changed it back for obvious reasons

i hope you're able to sleep now.
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#73 air_wolf_cubed
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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="anshul89"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="anshul89"]lolanshul89
lol be a crybaby about it. who cares

if you didnt care, you would have changed it without having to tell you repeatedly to change it :|

fact is i did change it. i changed it back for obvious reasons

i hope you're able to sleep now.

OH SNAP! I got owned

done arguing with you. byes

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art is pretty telling. And unless you give a reason to why exclusives are more important to the overall integrity of the library, you're just blowing hot air.

As far as I'm concerned, a library should be judged in its entirety. That is the only way to objectively look at it. If both libraries are judged in their entirety, they are both fairly lacking right now.

Also, even if exclusives were more important (which you haven't given any good reason for), the whole PS3 has "bad" games thing is still silly. The exclusives are not bad, they are decent, but nothing special.

Tragic_Kingdom7

Exclusives are more important because if you're choosing a console based on games (which you should be anyways, at least for the most part), you're going to base your decision based on what you can play on one console, but not on the other. You don't care about the ones you can play on both. They may make you buy a console, but don't decide which console, the exclusives are what makes you decide on a console, and gives one the advantage over the other.

The problem with this comes in when you do a comparison such as PS3 vs Wii. Although the Wii has more exclusives, and the PS3 more multiplats, the majority of those quality PS3 multiplats are not on the Wii. So in a strictly Wii vs PS3 comparison it's arguable that you could disregard PS3/360 multiplats, since in terms of Wii vs PS3, the 360 wouldn't matter.

It is due to this that I believe that for this generation, owning a Wii and than either a PS3 or 360 is a must for this generation, at least for the majority of gamers. Once again, prefence plays a roll, but overall a Wii/(ps3 or 360) combo is the best combo for this generation. (I personally think Wii/360, but, that's a whole other argument)
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#75 SMR-Venom
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Must buy am confirmed :D
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#76 Tragic_Kingdom7
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[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

The bolded part is pretty telling. And unless you give a reason to why exclusives are more important to the overall integrity of the library, you're just blowing hot air.

As far as I'm concerned, a library should be judged in its entirety. That is the only way to objectively look at it. If both libraries are judged in their entirety, they are both fairly lacking right now.

Also, even if exclusives were more important (which you haven't given any good reason for), the whole PS3 has "bad" games thing is still silly. The exclusives are not bad, they are decent, but nothing special.

sexy_chimp

It's kind of obvious, I didn't think I would need to explain.

Both of them matter, but exclusives matter more. Exclusives can only be played on one console, therefore if you want to play an exclusive on a console, you MUST buy that console. If you want to buy a multiplat, you do not have to buy a certian console, and therefore you would base your purchase on exclusives. Exclusives, most of the time, decide which system you would buy. Multiplats influence that decision, but they do not finalize it.

That's not neccesarily true.

My decision to buy a PS3 was not based off of the exclusives, it was based on the reliability of the console. Also, I wanted a next gen console for COD4, Oblivion and GTAIV, so I bought the one that wasn't going to break.

People buy consoles for various reasons.

When talking about the quality of a game library, all games hold the same value. A library merely dictates what games are avaliable on that console. It doesn't matter if GTAIV is also on the 360, if it is avaliable to me on PS3, it makes the library that much stronger.

If we are to go by your logic, Twilight Princess, Resident Evil 4 and Okami are less valuable to the library than if they would have originated on the Wii.

My thinking is that those 3 titles add much-needed strength to the Wii's multiplat library.

Trying to say which titles are more important is just an arbitrary way of declaring one console's library better.

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#77 BioShockOwnz
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extremely boring according to James Mielkie(spelling) over at 1up. "

Another rehash, and another mariokart, driving around another theme park, ds version is much better overall, more of the same, removed some features that the Gamecube had but added some, subpar online and lacking in features"

mismajor99

He was addicted to Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom, so his opinion means very little.

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#78 Tragic_Kingdom7
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[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

art is pretty telling. And unless you give a reason to why exclusives are more important to the overall integrity of the library, you're just blowing hot air.

As far as I'm concerned, a library should be judged in its entirety. That is the only way to objectively look at it. If both libraries are judged in their entirety, they are both fairly lacking right now.

Also, even if exclusives were more important (which you haven't given any good reason for), the whole PS3 has "bad" games thing is still silly. The exclusives are not bad, they are decent, but nothing special.

darkslider99


Exclusives are more important because if you're choosing a console based on games (which you should be anyways, at least for the most part), you're going to base your decision based on what you can play on one console, but not on the other. You don't care about the ones you can play on both. They may make you buy a console, but don't decide which console, the exclusives are what makes you decide on a console, and gives one the advantage over the other.

The problem with this comes in when you do a comparison such as PS3 vs Wii. Although the Wii has more exclusives, and the PS3 more multiplats, the majority of those quality PS3 multiplats are not on the Wii. So in a strictly Wii vs PS3 comparison it's arguable that you could disregard PS3/360 multiplats, since in terms of Wii vs PS3, the 360 wouldn't matter.

It is due to this that I believe that for this generation, owning a Wii and than either a PS3 or 360 is a must for this generation, at least for the majority of gamers. Once again, prefence plays a roll, but overall a Wii/(ps3 or 360) combo is the best combo for this generation. (I personally think Wii/360, but, that's a whole other argument)

See my response to sexy_chimp.

Also, if you're comparing the PS3 and Wii, the 360 won't matter.

If you're just looking at the games, the fashion in which the games arrived in the library is immaterial and arbitrary.

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#79 Fireball2500
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[QUOTE="BrownWalrus"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

[QUOTE="BrownWalrus"]I swear it seems like GS hands out high scores too Wii games all the time, but low to PS3 games all the time. It's the exact opposite almost everywhere else....(save for a few games that truly deserve their score, such as Mario Galaxy)air_wolf_cubed

Maybe because the Wii has good games and the PS3 has bad games.

Only in System Wars, aka Gamespot.

You wanna talk about bad games? Try telling me that 9.1 for Warioware: Smooth Moves is justified, and 7.5 for Ratchet and Clank is justified. Of course you're going to say yes, i wouldn't expect any other answer.

it is a possibility that GS thought those games deserved those scores

A mini-game collection NEVER deserves an AAA ever. No matter how good it is, it's not a real game.
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#80 Tragic_Kingdom7
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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="BrownWalrus"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

[QUOTE="BrownWalrus"]I swear it seems like GS hands out high scores too Wii games all the time, but low to PS3 games all the time. It's the exact opposite almost everywhere else....(save for a few games that truly deserve their score, such as Mario Galaxy)Fireball2500

Maybe because the Wii has good games and the PS3 has bad games.

Only in System Wars, aka Gamespot.

You wanna talk about bad games? Try telling me that 9.1 for Warioware: Smooth Moves is justified, and 7.5 for Ratchet and Clank is justified. Of course you're going to say yes, i wouldn't expect any other answer.

it is a possibility that GS thought those games deserved those scores

A mini-game collection NEVER deserves an AAA ever. No matter how good it is, it's not a real game.

You pulled that out of your ass, didn't you?

A mini-game collection is indeed a game and there's no reason it can't get AAA if it's done well.

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#82 monkeysrfat
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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="BrownWalrus"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

[QUOTE="BrownWalrus"]I swear it seems like GS hands out high scores too Wii games all the time, but low to PS3 games all the time. It's the exact opposite almost everywhere else....(save for a few games that truly deserve their score, such as Mario Galaxy)Fireball2500

Maybe because the Wii has good games and the PS3 has bad games.

Only in System Wars, aka Gamespot.

You wanna talk about bad games? Try telling me that 9.1 for Warioware: Smooth Moves is justified, and 7.5 for Ratchet and Clank is justified. Of course you're going to say yes, i wouldn't expect any other answer.

it is a possibility that GS thought those games deserved those scores

A mini-game collection NEVER deserves an AAA ever. No matter how good it is, it's not a real game.

Wario ware is boring when your playing it alone, but its awesome in multiplayer. Anyway how is it not a real game?

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#84 HarlockJC
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A mini-game collection NEVER deserves an AAA ever. No matter how good it is, it's not a real game.Fireball2500

Why would a racer deserve to be a AAA game or a FPS with only a 6 hour singal player format and a Mini game collection can not?

Any game if done well can be a AAA game.

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#86 Always-Honest
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great game. lots of fun
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#87 Cyddycism
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[QUOTE="Fireball2500"]

A mini-game collection NEVER deserves an AAA ever. No matter how good it is, it's not a real game.monkeysrfat

Wario ware is boring when your playing it alone, but its awesome in multiplayer. Anyway how is it not a real game?

It's not a real game "'cuz he iz teh hardcorez!1!"

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#90 Fireball2500
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[QUOTE="monkeysrfat"][QUOTE="Fireball2500"]

A mini-game collection NEVER deserves an AAA ever. No matter how good it is, it's not a real game.Cyddycism

Wario ware is boring when your playing it alone, but its awesome in multiplayer. Anyway how is it not a real game?

It's not a real game "'cuz he iz teh hardcorez!1!"

You do realize that I consider games like Super Mario Galaxy, TP, and SSBB hardcore? My definition of a hardcore game is more like a tradional game than a tough-as-nails, shoot-some-aliens game.
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#92 BioShockOwnz
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On the Wario Ware discussion, why are people arguing about what they think it should have received? You are not Jeff Gerstmann, you don't have the same opinions. He thought it was worth what he gave it and that was his opinion.
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[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"][QUOTE="Fireball2500"][QUOTE="monkeysrfat"][QUOTE="Fireball2500"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="BrownWalrus"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

[QUOTE="BrownWalrus"]I swear it seems like GS hands out high scores too Wii games all the time, but low to PS3 games all the time. It's the exact opposite almost everywhere else....(save for a few games that truly deserve their score, such as Mario Galaxy)Fireball2500

Maybe because the Wii has good games and the PS3 has bad games.

Only in System Wars, aka Gamespot.

You wanna talk about bad games? Try telling me that 9.1 for Warioware: Smooth Moves is justified, and 7.5 for Ratchet and Clank is justified. Of course you're going to say yes, i wouldn't expect any other answer.

it is a possibility that GS thought those games deserved those scores

A mini-game collection NEVER deserves an AAA ever. No matter how good it is, it's not a real game.

Wario ware is boring when your playing it alone, but its awesome in multiplayer. Anyway how is it not a real game?

It's not, at least, a type of game that really feels like it deserves an AAA. TP does, though. What was Jeff thinking when he did that?

TP deserved what it got. And I think Jeff gave good reasons for the score.

But how does WarioWare deserve an AAA and not TP at the same time?

See my last post.

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#95 nyoroism
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A mini-game collection NEVER deserves an AAA ever. No matter how good it is, it's not a real game.Fireball2500
Hey yeah man. Like those racing games? Mario Kart? Burnout? GT? Pfft, those races only last like two-minutes! It's just a compilation of the same thing over and over again. They don't deserve AAA no matter how good they are.
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#96 SmashBrosLegend
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Surpising, given the scores that Double Dash and Mario Kart 64 got.
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#97 SmashBrosLegend
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A mini-game collection NEVER deserves an AAA ever. No matter how good it is, it's not a real game.Fireball2500
Games are graded based on the standards already set by other games of the same genre. If a mini-game compilation is better than all others, then it deserves a score that reflects that. You forget that the people who rate these games don't care about one system's "AAA" count in comparison to another's,
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Nice surprise, although I would hope for voice chat to come along on the Wii and have that full experience of online.
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#99 munu9
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Considering what they wrote under bad, you'd think it score less :-\
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#100 munu9
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[QUOTE="Fireball2500"]A mini-game collection NEVER deserves an AAA ever. No matter how good it is, it's not a real game.SmashBrosLegend
Games are graded based on the standards already set by other games of the same genre. If a mini-game compilation is better than all others, then it deserves a score that reflects that. You forget that the people who rate these games don't care about one system's "AAA" count in comparison to another's,

What if all the games of the genre are only halfway decent? Just because it's better than those decent games means it should get a really high score? No, it should be compared with the quality of games from other genres, too IMO.