GT Sport just lost the "racing games war" by default

Seems I hit a nerve when me and fancy were just having our usual joke.

But let's have a little fun anyway shall we, how many button presses do you need in the cut scenes that take over 4hrs to watch in UC4?

Also how can you prove that only a "very tiny" percentage of people use manual gearing in racing games?

Thanks for telling me a racing game fan that I only use 3 buttons lol.

One... to skip them. Its not like the game demands you to see them

@lrdfancypants: She obviously loves you. What a good mother.

Can't we all just get along and press triangle to enact an hour long cut scene of uncomfortable hugging between us?

LOL Forza fanboys.

Fun Fact: GT Sport will sell more copies than Forza 5, 6 and 7 Sales combined!

You can keep spouting your nonsense all you want claiming Forza is king the last 10 years, but the FACT is Gran Turismo is STILL KING. Sales Matter.

You mean the game without much of a career mode, online requirement for most of it, fraction of the number of cars and tracks, and sold at full price? Oh well, at least a lot of people are going to buy it, that will make it good somehow.

GT was revolutionary on PS1 and still great on PS2, but the series lost to Forza long ago. Recently to Project Cars too.

I'd say your "moronic," claim is quite moronic.

As an old man whose favorite genre is racing games (sim style preferable, though arcades can be fun), Forza has indeed smashed GT since the first release. In terms of racing mechanics, and "feel." Which is what matters in these games...how an M2 "feels" so different from a Camero, etc.

Anyways...I had the other guys back. Forza has indeed dominated in terms of gameplay since release. Just wanted to let you know, because it seems you haven't played Forza, and you are really missing out if you like realistic racing games.

Not sure if I should buy it anymore

As someone who has extensively played both series, you couldn't be more wrong. Forza has never caught up to GT's driving model and "feel". Tasking off all the assists brings a dramatic change to the "feel" of GT, less so with Forza that remains a bit stickier than reality. The visual representation of the car handling is also lacking, with not nearly enough suspension movement, particularly with older muscle cars that look like they're floating around corners from the cockpit view (in which, the back half of the cars just disappear if you look backwards). Forza may have been the better package as a game, but it never surpassed GT's driving model.

It was never even in the race. Project Cars 2 will be the best in the long run with mods and updates since the driving is best in class.

Ya do know thats your personal opinion right? Others may "feel" the exact oposite

Played the Forza 7 demo and it was a great Forza game that felt exactly like a Forza game but with improvements to weather etc. The thing I don't like about Forza at the moment is all the extra fluff they have added over the past few iterations such as mods and loot boxes. I buy sim (console simcade for those that will no doubt chime in about what makes a sim) racers to race cars in a realistic manner. This is why I loved Dirt Rally over all the previous Dirt games with all their stupid events. I just want to race rally cars on a rally stage...

Anyway so for the first time I have not picked up a Forza game day 1 since Forza 2 on 360 because I feel its lost the pureness of racing that made the series great. Yes I know at its core it is still a great racer, I just don't want to be bombarded by all the fluff.

So instead I have preordered GT Sport Deluxe Edition via PSN. I don't currently think it'll definitely be a better rated game than Forza 7 as content wise it is lacking, but I do feel it is pushing more towards the type of racing I want. Pure motorsport and a celebration of cars plus not just a cut and paste of the last game with added fluff.

That's being incredibly optimistic... GT Sport looks like a glorified demo from what I've seen. It doesn't even have a proper SP mode.

But hey, each to their own.

hahaha

Just like Forza 7.

I am afraid GT sport will be like GT Prologue and Forza 7 is money hungry. Has really made me dislike it a bit. This is my first Forza game as I really liked GT franchise better due to career mode, and I wish Forza's race for the cup (or whatever it was called) was similar to GT Career mode.

@hrt_rulz01: yeah and if it doesn’t work out I’ll just pick up PC2 or Forza 7. Right now GTS interests me more due to the risk they are taking by going a different direction.

I’m a long term fan of both Forza and GT so want both to succeed but just feel F7 is playing it way too safe.

@Diddies: Luckily the only AAA I'm looking forward to is Wolfenstein II.

And it seems to be excempt from what plagues the AAA industry: It's a singleplayer focussed game with no microtransactions.

If true then that blows. PD shoudln't be taken away features that were in past games. but lucky for me I'm having so much fun with Project Cars 2, i'll be skipping GT sport.

@i_p_daily hi buddy.

GT Sport is like an online eSport thing. I totally pass on it since online and racing are 2 things that dont mix with me. But this thread about losing the racing wars... whatever that is.. makes no sense. Maybe i get GT7 since i enjoyed the past games.

First couple of hours are slow, yes. The game only opens around the 10th chapter when you arrive at Madagascar.

Yes, because repeating events starting from a sluggish feeling used car over and over in the 'great' Gran Turismo 1-4 games was fun right?

The career mode even had RNG car rolls that you needed to get to the next quality event, else grind for more credit to buy an appropriate car. Most events just had such a poorly curated grid with only one other car that was competitive or the entry requirements were so loose and merely used a kW/hp metric, rather than anything to do with downforce or the quality of your parts. I mean, It's all progression nonsense: a collect em all car game. I'd rather have quality racing.

There's endurance events that were decent, but the layer of attrition that ties into race strategy and the curated competition was a joke. The career only ever got good when you got to the Japanese Super GT content because it had a nice balanced car roster to choose from that suit your driving style from drivetrain, let alone torque preferences and the racing was nice and balanced, it helped that specs were fairly locked down also. That stuff is great, always felt like the game led up to that event and it's clear Polyphony has a passion for their own national motorsport stuff.

The quality of the racing on the straight up 'Arcade' modes where classes and performance was locked down was just better even if it had less content going on. So I have no beef with the lack of a Career mode.

I'm actually keen on GT Sport. i think it's the trim down and focus that GT needs. It's just that it's abandoning its casual audience that wants to race in their dream car.

Just wonder how fun it is racing a bunch of amateur racing drivers in GT Sport will be across different skill levels. Simcade racing games are already disabling first corner collisions because of how chaotic it can be. Because we're obviously not in physical danger or professional racing drivers under scrutiny or anything.

Yes, because the feel of progression from driving shitty cars to buying better and better ones was half of the fun for me

I have to say I am excited with the competitive jump they are making. The system they are using is almost identical to IRacing. Once you get out of the beginner leagues this game is going to be a blast.

GT Sport lost it by becoming e-sport nonsense. No serious racing fan wants to buy a game that has been developed solely for e-sports.

Project Cars 2 is the current king of single player racing sims. Fact. As for forza, well, that's just outdated nonsense, aint it.

I can make just about any game look boring. This game is pretty solid. I quite enjoy the series.

I dont know if you have a reading deficit or what but thats faaar from what I said... the game is between 15/20hours long. The first 4h dont even represent 1/3 of the game... but you havent played the game so what do you know... damn, all those 10/10s and GOTY awards surely caused some major butthurt, even to this day :P

Answers in bold. Cheers ^^^

edit: And btw, I wont fuel this stupid argument any further. Think what you like. Those 9/10s and 10/10s wont go away, as much as you want them to. Peace :P

@R4gn4r0k: Nintendo

Is Available also

IS this official or a rumor at this point ? This sounds stupid to not have in a GT game.

Use to love the franchise but the more I learn about GT sport the more I'm inclined to skip it. It sounds like R6 Siege in that it's primarily a MP game with tutorials as the sole SP content. No fvcking thanks.

For some reason, GTS looks way more appealing in action than F7

Inb4 you need to remove your cows glasses

@2mrw said:For some reason, GTS looks way more appealing in action than F7

Inb4 you need to remove your cows glasses

Then you should create a hype thread, because I reckon it will get a 9 here on cow...I mean Gamespot :)

@bowtothepc: Wow, that's an impressive amount of bullshit you've typed out there.

Uncharted 4 suffers from very uneven pacing. The first quarter of the game is heavy in cutscenes and dialogue because it tries to expose the story to the viewer. The second quarter is filled with endless climbing nonsense. The third quarter is solving puzzles and again, lots of climbing. The final part is heavy in gunfights and probably has more action than the rest of the 3 quarters put together. All in all a very badly paced game. Still good fun though. People calling it a non-game aren't entirely wrong because you spend a long ass time not really gaming and the platforming mechanics are certainly lacking which sucks because it is very prevalent. It's a decent game but cutting the climbing/cutscenes and add better spaced gunfights would have made it far more enjoyable.

online only=DOA

Well, I do find impressive how one can write so much and yet say so little. I mean, look at his most recent example right above ^^^. The funny thing is that he actually believes someone will bother reading all his worthless crap

Leave GT fanboys alone they still live in 2004!

I do have to question GT Sport. It may be full priced IDK, have DLC and has a limited single player. But my real gripe is the reliance on online, mainly because Sony is notorious for switching off servers. And don't tell me it's because of the lack of interest in certain games, because they switched off the popular GT 5 servers just so they could make people buy GT 6.

Sounds like another Street Fighter V debacle.

Nah, Sony's "for the players"...

LOL.