GT5 Could Be The Highest Selling And Highest Rated Game In The Franchise

[QUOTE="GSuser123"][...] sales and reviews dont matter to you the only thing you have to base everything you say is from your personal opinion and nothing more. [...]foxhound_fox

Rating remains to be seen, but PS3 only has about 1/3 of the userbase of the PS2. Do you honestly expect it to sell more than previous iterations?

So the world revolves around you and when you sleep at night everything freezes and resums when you awake.GSuser123

Opinions are what we base all facts upon, its not only up to how you feel to take something as fact or not. And that is were I leave off because arguing your mindset it becomes impossible to win you need to open up and accept other peoples opinions before you face reality.GSuser123

[QUOTE="GSuser123"] So the world revolves around you and when you sleep at night everything freezes and resums when you awake.foxhound_fox

Opinions are what we base all facts upon, its not only up to how you feel to take something as fact or not. And that is were I leave off because arguing your mindset it becomes impossible to win you need to open up and accept other peoples opinions before you face reality.GSuser123

In a lot of people's opinions 1 + 1 = 2, maybe in someone elses opinion 1 + 1 = 3. There is nothing out there that makes 1 + 1 = 2 except opinions. But we know it as fact. GSuser123

@ foxhound (glitchspot is messing up my quotes...) In someone's mind mathematics may not be 100% universal, we know very little of the universe we even live in. The only thing that you have making mathematics 100% universal is the opinions of others and yourself.GSuser123

@ foxhound See again in your opinion mathematics is 100% absolute. What you cant seem to understand is everything is composed of opinion. Just like if god is real or not, some may say god is real others may not, and this is not off topic because you argued my "facts" in the 1st place and the real problem is you're not seeing things on the same level that I do, nor will you accept change, and opinons of other poeople than yourself like I have.GSuser123

[QUOTE="GSuser123"]@ foxhound See again in your opinion mathematics is 100% absolute. What you cant seem to understand is everything is composed of opinion. Just like if god is real or not, some may say god is real others may not, and this is not off topic because you argued my "facts" in the 1st place and the real problem is you're not seeing things on the same level that I do, nor will you accept change, and opinons of other poeople than yourself like I have.foxhound_fox

No. Mathematics is 100% absolute. It is based on exact formulas and definitions. Please, tell me how my point about how "opinions are not facts" is incorrect. You are going off-topic for the thread and my original argument.

foxhound_fox

actually if you want to get technical about it, thats not true, especially in advanced-level mathmatics where we try to figure out things that actually matter instead of crap like how many layers your paintjob can have in forza vs gt5. short of some earth-shattering discovery or cosmic event, the baseline math of 1+1=2 will likely never change, but the high-level math defining what makes 1 a value of 1 changes continually as new discoveries are made. the 'exact formulas and definitions' are are talking about are in reality opinions in ways--a general concensus of the scientific community based on the best available evidence. that evidence crumbles all the time under scrutiny and new theories replace the old ones. so as things go, mathematics is actually extremely fluid.

i see your point, and this forum is full of people with weak arguments who like to use 'opinion' as a crutch/shield, but i just figured id point this out.

anyway on topic, who cares gt sucks hahaha.