GT5 demo - Downgrade confirmed

http://www.gamersyde.com/news_5372_en.html

Screenshots not looking too impressive without photo mode....

Look at the shot of the red Viper driving toward the camera, 2D TREES REMAIN - they were not placeholders! That red Viper now looks like plastic as well..

This game has always had 2d trees, so no downgrade confirmed :|

Yeah, the trees are 2D.

Um, alert the authorities?

Oh well so much for the Awesome Power of Blue Ray and the Cell!

Car models look great, but the environments are just "ok".

Oh well so much for the Awesome Power of Blue Ray and the Cell!

Nugtoka

Power of the console has nothing to do it, its developers.

[QUOTE="Nugtoka"]

Oh well so much for the Awesome Power of Blue Ray and the Cell!

RazMaTaz-1

Power of the console has nothing to do it, its developers.

Read this

soo...developers could have made graphics like that on the original NES?

I think it's safe to say power does have something to do with it.

[QUOTE="Nugtoka"]

Oh well so much for the Awesome Power of Blue Ray and the Cell!

RazMaTaz-1

Power of the console has nothing to do it, its developers.

Exactly! these are some of the best developers Sony has and if they can't get the power out of the Ps3 no one can.

Ps 2.5 :lol:

It doesn't look any better than PGR4 when actually playing it except PGR4 has miles better enviorment and car models to match. GT5 enviornments are nasty. -Just being honest:)Pro_wrestler

its a demo... haha
what do you expect. full weather effects, night and day, and perfect trees??

2D trees, yes, w/e really good cars > really good trees, it looks just as good as the earlier shots, what are you on? ZanuffC

Were is this groundbreaking difference between GT5 and all other games?
PGR4:


GT5:

Yeah, the trees are 2D.

Um, alert the authorities?

inertk

The GT fans were claiming the 2D trees were placeholders...

Honestly, the track looks awful, I can't believe this was even used as the first public demo. The in game graphics of the cars isn't even remotely impressive either.

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]It doesn't look any better than PGR4 when actually playing it except PGR4 has miles better enviorment and car models to match. GT5 enviornments are nasty. -Just being honest:)mattyomo99

its a demo... haha
what do you expect. full weather effects, night and day, and perfect trees??

I expect this uber realistic game that can only be done via PS3..I don't know about you but I'm certainly not seeing it in those photos as proclaimed for months by cows as being the most impressive game visually.

the spectators look like cardboard cut-outs.

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]It doesn't look any better than PGR4 when actually playing it except PGR4 has miles better enviorment and car models to match. GT5 enviornments are nasty. -Just being honest:)mattyomo99

its a demo... haha
what do you expect. full weather effects, night and day, and perfect trees??

Forza 2's plain tracks look better right now.. seriously. I'm not exaggerating at all.

Comparing it to PGR4 is just silly, PGR4's environments are godly

[QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"][QUOTE="Nugtoka"]

Oh well so much for the Awesome Power of Blue Ray and the Cell!

Nugtoka

Power of the console has nothing to do it, its developers.

Exactly! these are some of the best developers Sony has and if they can't get the power out of the Ps3 no one can.

Ps 2.5 :lol:

congrats for criticising a game 1 year before its release. Theres a large amount of things that wernt added in the demo, like damage, customisation. A few trees aint gonna made a difference. I mean, lets just look at Forza graphics :lol:

[QUOTE="inertk"]

Yeah, the trees are 2D.

Um, alert the authorities?

SecretNuAccount

The GT fans were claiming the 2D trees were placeholders...

Honestly, the track looks awful, I can't believe this was even used as the first public demo. The in game graphics of the cars isn't even remotely impressive either.

If they were to be placeholders, the final verson would be in GT5.

Not GT5-Prologue.

Not the demo for, GT5-Prologue. Aside from that, how the hell did they know if it was a placeholder or not? They were most likely just making excuses.

Secondly, let's be objective here. Under similar conditions, the same tracks on other racers don't look particularly impressive either. We've not seen any city circuits or other locations yet. That, and personally I do find the cars to look great. Probably the best in a game, to say they're not remotely impressive. ;/ Hmm.

Anyway, is this thread only about 2D trees? Really? I mean, MGS3 had 3D grass. Why doesn't every other game with grass have 3D grass that reacts to the player/objects/explosions/wind?

As someone said earlier, it's up to the developer.

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]It doesn't look any better than PGR4 when actually playing it except PGR4 has miles better enviorment and car models to match. GT5 enviornments are nasty. -Just being honest:)mattyomo99

its a demo... haha
what do you expect. full weather effects, night and day, and perfect trees??

Lemmings in full out damage control...lol

GT5P looks amazing...100X better than Forza 2.

Compared to PGR4, GT5P has way waaayy better car models...but PGR4 has the edge on the envioronments.

GT5P>>PGR4 Graphically and game wise.

GT5 is KING!!!!

Finally the PS3 gets a killer app...ohh wait cows have to wait a year for the full game :(...while I get to play PGR4 now.

I liked the demo though...GT5 will be King

[QUOTE="mattyomo99"]

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]It doesn't look any better than PGR4 when actually playing it except PGR4 has miles better enviorment and car models to match. GT5 enviornments are nasty. -Just being honest:)Eltroz

its a demo... haha
what do you expect. full weather effects, night and day, and perfect trees??

I think we all remember what Forza 2 looked like. The graphics were worse than NFS most wanted, which was a close enough launch title for 360. didnt stop it from scoring 9+

[QUOTE="mattyomo99"]

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]It doesn't look any better than PGR4 when actually playing it except PGR4 has miles better enviorment and car models to match. GT5 enviornments are nasty. -Just being honest:)Eltroz

its a demo... haha
what do you expect. full weather effects, night and day, and perfect trees??

Obviously not to demonstrate EVERYTHING that's available in the game. Especially if those features aren't complete.

I mean, did the PGR4 demo come with every avaiable car/track/song and every variation of weather? Of course not, be realistic.

screw that!! im not downloading this free demo now! thats horrible im getting so ripped off that this free demo has 2d trees. ARG!!!:evil:BTBAM127

I hear ya man...2D Trees...what is this 1994??

[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="mattyomo99"]

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]It doesn't look any better than PGR4 when actually playing it except PGR4 has miles better enviorment and car models to match. GT5 enviornments are nasty. -Just being honest:)inertk

its a demo... haha
what do you expect. full weather effects, night and day, and perfect trees??

Obviously not to demonstrate EVERYTHING that's available in the game. Especially if those features aren't complete.

I mean, did the PGR4 demo come with every avaiable car/track/song and every variation of weather? Of course not, be realistic.

you guys are already arguing.. the game is a demo of another demo.. its realy not completed and it already look very good so stop the stupid complainingmarcandrer

:lol: Oh the Irony. If only cows could see themselves back in May during the Halo 3 beta would they realize how big of hypocrites they sound."Bu bu teh GT5 demo is pre pre pre pre alpha" - "Bu bu teh Killzone 2 is pre-pre-pre-pre Alpha" How many pre-alphas can there be before they time travel to a point were their not even working on the game anymore? *Sigh* Some cows..gotta love'em.

yeah, just played the demo:

-graphics: very good. some appearent crawling seem-lines but very few jaggies. suroundings... well,it's one track.. and not much going on, so hard to say, but i think it's a safe bet that the surroundings in PGR4 look better.

-Controls/handling: luckaly much better than GT:HD. far more responsive and even realistic.

-sound: the horrible screetching sound of the tires is still constantly there unfortunatel. engines sound great

I really feel the need for rumble or force feedback wheel, cause you miss some real feel of power in the cars (Dirt does that great).

I know there will be no damage, but it really feels weird to SLAM into a wall, and just bounce of like it's a plastic box...

[QUOTE="Nugtoka"][QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"][QUOTE="Nugtoka"]

Oh well so much for the Awesome Power of Blue Ray and the Cell!

RazMaTaz-1

Power of the console has nothing to do it, its developers.

Exactly! these are some of the best developers Sony has and if they can't get the power out of the Ps3 no one can.

Ps 2.5 :lol:

congrats for criticising a game 1 year before its release. Theres a large amount of things that wernt added in the demo, like damage, customisation. A few trees aint gonna made a difference. I mean, lets just look at Forza graphics :lol:

:lol: "NG2 has crap graphics and doesn't look any better than Sigma" -T3h cows despite it being a year away.

[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="mattyomo99"]

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]It doesn't look any better than PGR4 when actually playing it except PGR4 has miles better enviorment and car models to match. GT5 enviornments are nasty. -Just being honest:)RazMaTaz-1

its a demo... haha
what do you expect. full weather effects, night and day, and perfect trees??

I think we all remember what Forza 2 looked like. The graphics were worse than NFS most wanted, which was a close enough launch title for 360. didnt stop it from scoring 9+

[QUOTE="marcandrer"]you guys are already arguing.. the game is a demo of another demo.. its realy not completed and it already look very good so stop the stupid complainingPro_wrestler

:lol: Oh the Irony. If only cows could see themselves back in May during the Halo 3 beta would they realize how big of hypocrites they sound."Bu bu teh GT5 demo is pre pre pre pre alpha" - "Bu bu teh Killzone 2 is pre-pre-pre-pre Alpha" How many pre-alphas can there be before they time travel to a point were their not even working on the game anymore? *Sigh* Some cows..gotta love'em.

So now lemmings are stooping to Cow Levels?

[QUOTE="inertk"][QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="mattyomo99"]

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]It doesn't look any better than PGR4 when actually playing it except PGR4 has miles better enviorment and car models to match. GT5 enviornments are nasty. -Just being honest:)Eltroz

its a demo... haha
what do you expect. full weather effects, night and day, and perfect trees??

Obviously not to demonstrate EVERYTHING that's available in the game. Especially if those features aren't complete.

I mean, did the PGR4 demo come with every avaiable car/track/song and every variation of weather? Of course not, be realistic.

Eh? They could to be honest. Doubtful for the final version of Prologue. Gt5 itself however, could have different trees. Although I also doubt that would happen, although it is a possibility.

Still I was responding to your post in regard to the weather effects.

[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="inertk"][QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="mattyomo99"]

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]It doesn't look any better than PGR4 when actually playing it except PGR4 has miles better enviorment and car models to match. GT5 enviornments are nasty. -Just being honest:)inertk

its a demo... haha
what do you expect. full weather effects, night and day, and perfect trees??

Obviously not to demonstrate EVERYTHING that's available in the game. Especially if those features aren't complete.

I mean, did the PGR4 demo come with every avaiable car/track/song and every variation of weather? Of course not, be realistic.

Eh? They could to be honest. Doubtful for the final version of Prologue. Gt5 itself however, could have different trees. Although I also doubt that would happen, although it is a possibility.

Still I was responding to your post in regard to the weather effects.

Do trees really even matter though?

I couldn't tell the difference....except if when your watching a replay and its in birds-eye view...and u happen to be looking at the environment.

This is getting pathetic.

Zomg GT5 has 2D Trees...it suxxors...

PGR 4 demo did have a Macau track(which looks amazing) and the Nurburgring :)

It had weather in the demo, plus arcade challenges as well

Do trees really even matter though?

I couldn't tell the difference....except if when your watching a replay and its in birds-eye view...and u happen to be looking at the environment.

This is getting pathetic.

Zomg GT5 has 2D Trees...it suxxors...

-D3MO-

I couldn't care less about the state of the trees.

[QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"][QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="mattyomo99"]

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]It doesn't look any better than PGR4 when actually playing it except PGR4 has miles better enviorment and car models to match. GT5 enviornments are nasty. -Just being honest:)Eltroz

its a demo... haha
what do you expect. full weather effects, night and day, and perfect trees??

I think we all remember what Forza 2 looked like. The graphics were worse than NFS most wanted, which was a close enough launch title for 360. didnt stop it from scoring 9+

Well, i dunno why people are criticising GTs graphics for, it makes Forza look like like **** graphically. Gameplay was very responsive and realistic, much like Forza. The cars alone are the best car models yet, and theres still 1 year left to sort out the graphics for the environment, i mean come on, you are criticising the game on 1 track?

Forza Motorsport 2:

GT5 prequel:

Yes, GT5 looks 100x better than Forza 2

PGR 4 demo did have a Macau track(which looks amazing) and the Nurburgring :)

It had weather in the demo, plus arcade challenges as well

SecretNuAccount

Did it have every stage+every different stage of weather available so people could meticulously pull it apart? But since I can only go by my experience with PGR3+Screens of PGR4 in a similar racing track environment.

They could hardly be considered the **best** compared to the city stages, right? We haven't really got a good look at those avaiable in Prologue.

you guys are already arguing.. the game is a demo of another demo.. its realy not completed and it already look very good so stop the stupid complainingmarcandrer

What I find particularly amusing is the demo of a demo. What does this mean? Really not knocking you just when have we ever had a demo of a demo?? This makes little sense, at least in my book.

[QUOTE="mattyomo99"]

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]It doesn't look any better than PGR4 when actually playing it except PGR4 has miles better enviorment and car models to match. GT5 enviornments are nasty. -Just being honest:)Pro_wrestler

its a demo... haha
what do you expect. full weather effects, night and day, and perfect trees??

I expect this uber realistic game that can only be done via PS3..I don't know about you but I'm certainly not seeing it in those photos as proclaimed for months by cows as being the most impressive game visually.

its a demo... not a game

does anybody understand this??

[QUOTE="inertk"][QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="inertk"][QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="mattyomo99"]

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]It doesn't look any better than PGR4 when actually playing it except PGR4 has miles better enviorment and car models to match. GT5 enviornments are nasty. -Just being honest:)-D3MO-

its a demo... haha
what do you expect. full weather effects, night and day, and perfect trees??

Obviously not to demonstrate EVERYTHING that's available in the game. Especially if those features aren't complete.

I mean, did the PGR4 demo come with every avaiable car/track/song and every variation of weather? Of course not, be realistic.

Eh? They could to be honest. Doubtful for the final version of Prologue. Gt5 itself however, could have different trees. Although I also doubt that would happen, although it is a possibility.

Still I was responding to your post in regard to the weather effects.

Do trees really even matter though?

I couldn't tell the difference....except if when your watching a replay and its in birds-eye view...and u happen to be looking at the environment.

This is getting pathetic.

Zomg GT5 has 2D Trees...it suxxors...

Isn't amazing graphics the point of GT5? Its pretty much been established that its feature set is far below what Forza2 offers.

Driving past 2D cutouts of trees doesn't take away from the realism and presentation just a tad? :) The environments just look embarassingly bad.

The in game cockpit view doesn't even have a windshield like PGR 3 had back at 360's launch. Its just a cockpit with a cutaway to the regular game screen.

One other thing, any one here play bump & jump on the C64?? Now talk about downgraded graphix. Man you guys just don't get it do you the modern consoles have come so far, we are worried about 2d trees??

Look at this link for real downgrade in graphics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bumpandjumpnes.PNG

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]

[QUOTE="marcandrer"]you guys are already arguing.. the game is a demo of another demo.. its realy not completed and it already look very good so stop the stupid complaining-D3MO-

:lol: Oh the Irony. If only cows could see themselves back in May during the Halo 3 beta would they realize how big of hypocrites they sound."Bu bu teh GT5 demo is pre pre pre pre alpha" - "Bu bu teh Killzone 2 is pre-pre-pre-pre Alpha" How many pre-alphas can there be before they time travel to a point were their not even working on the game anymore? *Sigh* Some cows..gotta love'em.

So now lemmings are stooping to Cow Levels?

Is that even possible? Cows are several feet taller than lemmings(rodents).

But no..Its not stooping to anything, no one said it wouldn't improve in this thread unlike what cows failed to realise months ago about previous games so its merely exposing hypocrites.