the car act like a bumper car, and PD call it a simulator? even PGR is more realistic...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOd6o9Fv8TM&feature=player_embedded
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looks like garbage, and still dont have a release date, what a joke, forza 3 is the definitive racer anyway.
Looks better than Forza 3 to me.
So what does that make Forza 3.
You're so predictable. Are you ever NOT going to like a ps3 game and hate a 360 game? I don't think so...[QUOTE="jakehouston88"]
Looks better than Forza 3 to me.
So what does that make Forza 3.
SquatsAreAwesom
:lol:
I don't get it...
[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"][QUOTE="bleehum"] The plastic barriers?bleehumYes, the plastic barriers... such epic failure on those. What do you except them to do? It's not like they're incredibly heavy or anything. Rewatch the video and tell me they are acting believable by at least a little...
When the car runs through them, you can immediately tell that they aren't even reacting to the free fall effect of gravity. Let alone reacting to the force vectors of the car...
[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"]
[QUOTE="jakehouston88"]
Looks better than Forza 3 to me.
So what does that make Forza 3.
jakehouston88
What do you except them to do? It's not like they're incredibly heavy or anything. Rewatch the video and tell me they are acting believable by at least a little...[QUOTE="bleehum"][QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"] Yes, the plastic barriers... such epic failure on those.SquatsAreAwesom
When the car runs through them, you can immediately tell that they aren't even reacting to the free fall effect of gravity. Let alone reacting to the force vectors of the car...
Lol wut? You seriously expect they'd just fall to the ground immediately after they roll over the top of the car? Sadly, this is the only video I could find of someone running through a plastic barrier, (yes I know it's a go kart race, blah blah, but the effects would be multiplied at a higher speed, and it's the same thing only a much smaller vehicle) Go to around 15 seconds, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8Al295To7Q. After the barriers go over the car, they're not just going to fall to the ground.Didn't they say a few companies didn't want their cars smashed up, so they were only allowed scratches?
Still, it doesn't even look like they had internal damage on that one.
ehh what are you smoking??? this vid is for damage only and not for physics. and forza is not gonna be better than Gt5 . there is the experience factor here. and if forza is better so what? is this gonna make GT5 a bad game , of course not.
Rewatch the video and tell me they are acting believable by at least a little...[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"]
[QUOTE="bleehum"] What do you except them to do? It's not like they're incredibly heavy or anything.bleehum
When the car runs through them, you can immediately tell that they aren't even reacting to the free fall effect of gravity. Let alone reacting to the force vectors of the car...
Lol wut? You seriously expect they'd just fall to the ground immediately after they roll over the top of the car? Sadly, this is the only video I could find of someone running through a plastic barrier, (yes I know it's a go kart race, blah blah, but the effects would be multiplied at a higher speed, and it's the same thing only a much smaller vehicle) Go to around 15 seconds, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8Al295To7Q. After the barriers go over the car, they're not just going to fall to the ground. Huh...? Are you suggesting objects don't fall to the ground when there is nothing supporting their weight? Have you taken a physics class? Even the video you used as evidence fails... because it only further proves my point. The GT3 video's gravity / object physics modeling is messed up... I'm sorry, but rewatch it a few times. It's blatently obvious. Let alone the force vectors are all messed up.I don't see why these car manufacturers act this way. It's like they want to fool the world into thinking their cars can take hits from anything short of the Incredible Hulk!Didn't they say a few companies didn't want their cars smashed up, so they were only allowed scratches?
Still, it doesn't even look like they had internal damage on that one.
bubbleboyii
Um...... Damage is calculated via physics. You do not slam into a wall and expect the car to simply bounce off with simple dents. Please try to drive into a wall, and put it on youtube to prove us wrong.ehh what are you smoking??? this vid is for damage only and not for physics. and forza is not gonna be better than Gt5 . there is the experience factor here. and if forza is better so what? is this gonna make GT5 a bad game , of course not.
ioannisdenton
[QUOTE="bleehum"]Lol wut? You seriously expect they'd just fall to the ground immediately after they roll over the top of the car? Sadly, this is the only video I could find of someone running through a plastic barrier, (yes I know it's a go kart race, blah blah, but the effects would be multiplied at a higher speed, and it's the same thing only a much smaller vehicle) Go to around 15 seconds, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8Al295To7Q. After the barriers go over the car, they're not just going to fall to the ground.Huh...? Are you suggesting objects don't fall to the ground when there is nothing supporting their weight? Have you taken a physics class? Even the video you used as evidence fails... because it only further proves my point. The GT5 video's gravity is messed up... I'm sorry, but rewatch it a few times. It's blatently obvious. Let alone the force vectors are all messed up.:| *sigh* Ok, let's try this again. First all, let me point out, after the 1st and 2nd barrier, which are stuck in front of the car, the rest end up launching at different angles off of these two. Now, that in itself creates them to go seperate ways. Next, the barriers are moving roughly at the same rate of the car. Once they are caught by the wind (which happens after they move from the front of the car), they aren't simply going to fall to the ground immediately.[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"] Rewatch the video and tell me they are acting believable by at least a little...
When the car runs through them, you can immediately tell that they aren't even reacting to the free fall effect of gravity. Let alone reacting to the force vectors of the car...
SquatsAreAwesom
Huh...? Are you suggesting objects don't fall to the ground when there is nothing supporting their weight? Have you taken a physics class? Even the video you used as evidence fails... because it only further proves my point. The GT5 video's gravity is messed up... I'm sorry, but rewatch it a few times. It's blatently obvious. Let alone the force vectors are all messed up.:| *sigh* Ok, let's try this again. First all, let me point out, after the 1st and 2nd barrier, which are stuck in front of the car, the rest end up launching at different angles off of these two. Now, that in itself creates them to go seperate ways. Next, the barriers are moving roughly at the same rate of the car. Once they are caught by the wind (which happens after they move from the front of the car), they aren't simply going to fall to the ground immediately. Dude... let it go. It looks fake. Trying to reenact the video through words isn't going to change that simple fact.[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"][QUOTE="bleehum"] Lol wut? You seriously expect they'd just fall to the ground immediately after they roll over the top of the car? Sadly, this is the only video I could find of someone running through a plastic barrier, (yes I know it's a go kart race, blah blah, but the effects would be multiplied at a higher speed, and it's the same thing only a much smaller vehicle) Go to around 15 seconds, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8Al295To7Q. After the barriers go over the car, they're not just going to fall to the ground.
bleehum
Let me ask you... do you also believe that physics have nothing to do with damage?
[QUOTE="bleehum"]:| *sigh* Ok, let's try this again. First all, let me point out, after the 1st and 2nd barrier, which are stuck in front of the car, the rest end up launching at different angles off of these two. Now, that in itself creates them to go seperate ways. Next, the barriers are moving roughly at the same rate of the car. Once they are caught by the wind (which happens after they move from the front of the car), they aren't simply going to fall to the ground immediately. Dude... let it go. It looks fake. Trying to reenact the video through words isn't going to change that simple fact. Nice response.[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"] Huh...? Are you suggesting objects don't fall to the ground when there is nothing supporting their weight? Have you taken a physics class? Even the video you used as evidence fails... because it only further proves my point. The GT5 video's gravity is messed up... I'm sorry, but rewatch it a few times. It's blatently obvious. Let alone the force vectors are all messed up.SquatsAreAwesom
yup ur ritelooks like garbage, and still dont have a release date, what a joke, forza 3 is the definitive racer anyway.
PrimusGears
[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"][QUOTE="bleehum"]:| *sigh* Ok, let's try this again. First all, let me point out, after the 1st and 2nd barrier, which are stuck in front of the car, the rest end up launching at different angles off of these two. Now, that in itself creates them to go seperate ways. Next, the barriers are moving roughly at the same rate of the car. Once they are caught by the wind (which happens after they move from the front of the car), they aren't simply going to fall to the ground immediately.Dude... let it go. It looks fake. Trying to reenact the video through words isn't going to change that simple fact. Nice response. You reenacting the video with your own commentary. What more did you want?bleehum
Nice response. You reenacting the video with your own commentary. What more did you want? Reenacting? Actually, explaining what's going on since you obviously don't understand.[QUOTE="bleehum"][QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"] Dude... let it go. It looks fake. Trying to reenact the video through words isn't going to change that simple fact.SquatsAreAwesom
yup ur rite[QUOTE="PrimusGears"]
looks like garbage, and still dont have a release date, what a joke, forza 3 is the definitive racer anyway.
Revolution316
Sorry for my English writing, is horrible
I had registered in this site for a long time, because of reviews and article, that I like. But I never wrote here, the issue is that I came by a link up here and saw this thread, and it amused me for physicals. I leave this, the demo forza 3
gif forza 3
are small "bug" that will be corrected in the final version. :P ;)
edit: hups ! gif already had written, sorry
The gameplay was fine thoughthey focused to much on the graphics and not enough on the.... GAMEPLAY!
Decrate
[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"]You reenacting the video with your own commentary. What more did you want? Reenacting? Actually, explaining what's going on since you obviously don't understand. LOL... I do understand. You're putting your own spin on it which is total crap. The wind is not going to cause the plastic tubes to slowly fall to the ground, to that degree, regardless of what you say. EVEN THE VIDEO YOU POSTED acts contrary to your claim. Secondly, the force vectors are completely off given the barriers do nothing but roll over the car, instead of spin uncontrollably away as they should. It's so clear... I'm genuinely disturbed that you actually believe that is realistic.[QUOTE="bleehum"] Nice response.bleehum
yup ur rite[QUOTE="PrimusGears"]
looks like garbage, and still dont have a release date, what a joke, forza 3 is the definitive racer anyway.
Revolution316
You know that the only reason the car rocked back over on to its wheels is because the game allows you to do that, right? :|
It's not bad physics, it's something the game allows you to do.
Dear god i hope it is on casual settings :?
If this is what the final product is gonna look and play like then i guess im gonna have to buy a 360
i hope they put in great damage and physics because i need a top notch racing sim and forza is taking the cake right now
[QUOTE="bleehum"][QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"] You reenacting the video with your own commentary. What more did you want?Reenacting? Actually, explaining what's going on since you obviously don't understand. LOL... I do understand. You're putting your own spin on it which is total crap. The wind is not going to cause the plastic tubes to slowly fall to the ground, regardless of what you say. EVEN THE VIDEO YOU POSTED acts contrary to your claim. Secondly, the force vectors are completely off given the barriers do nothing but roll over the car, instead of spin uncontrollably away as they should. It's so clear... I'm genuinely disturbed that you actually believe that is realistic.SquatsAreAwesom
The video I linked definitely doesn't contradict my claim, unless you're blind and can't see the white barrier which is launched into the air. Simple physics is spinning something? I never said it was completely realistic,but it definitely portrays what would happen to the barriers in that situation, of course if they don't weigh too much. And really, the funny thing is, they're not even falling to the ground that slow, if slow at all.
so.. Before it's Graphic, but after demo came out.. tha argument is a failure.... then it was Car Damage, and that was a failure argument too.. Now it's Physics??? gonna beg when F3 comes out.. the argument is a failure too?? trend doesn't look good for you.
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