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#51 lolkie_81
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[QUOTE="lolkie_81"][QUOTE="Always-Honest"]

[QUOTE="JLF1"]What I find funny in this thread is that it contradicts everything cows have been saying up to this point.

Cows- It's a DEMO so it's not perfect.

Me- So a demo costs $40?

Cows- NO, it's not a demo it's prologue!

Me- so your basically paying for a BETA?

Cows- NO it is a game with more content than most games out there.

Me- But you called it a demo a moment ago that's why the flaws of this prologue was acceptable.

Then repeat.Sony_92

that's so true.

Lmao, Ps3 fanboys will continue to be owned as this gen goes on. I really dont think the ps3 has all the "hidden power " that will be tapped. Anybody with all three consoles :like me: can tell the ps3 is the worst system so far. Even the wii has better games atm, if you dont count multiplait games. I buy those for the 360.

I cant wait until the PS3 detroyies the 360 this year cause i will like to rub it in Lemmings faces so bad.

Face it the PS3 will take that 2nd spot behind the Wii very shortly.

Plus, GT5 Prologue is not a demo nor a game, its a prequel to the full game.

Belive me I will not be owned. If the ps3 gets great games, thats good for me. I really dont give a $*& who wins this stuiped "CONSOLE WAR" I just want some great games to play. I really try hard not to be a fanboy I just state my opinion as I see it.

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#52 NSR34GTR
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everyone needs to realise the ps3 isnt what sonys claims.daveg1
everyone needs to realise the ps3 isnt what sonys claims.daveg1

agree to an extent

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#53 cobragt4
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now you tell me which game looks more realistic

pgr4

gt5p

pgr4

gt5p

those pics give me reason to think you are bs'ing

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#54 AIH_PSP
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How is it pushing the PS3 too far when it's running at 1080p at 60FPS with VSYNC on? Obviously it'll be fixed in the final version of GT5.
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#55 Riverwolf007
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Tough gen to be a manticore. If you talk about the strengths of the PS3 and look forward to the future you get slapped around with "just wait", If you point out any of the obvious flaws inherent in the PS3 and it's so-far lackluster performance you get told you don't really own one and are a lem fakeboy.

Good luck.

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#56 Ragashahs
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why improve parts that don't matter like back round? seriously this is a racing game your not exactly going to stop and look at the backround.
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#57 saolin323
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now you tell me which game looks more realistic

pgr4

gt5p

pgr4

gt5p

those pics give me reason to think you are bs'ing

cobragt4

You mean let's compae the worst, most unlit pic of PGS4 to the best, best lit pic of GT5 ???

Why not present us the below ? Those are some terrible video grabs, but still look better than GT5 IMO

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#58 BubbyJello
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#59 Riverwolf007
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why improve parts that don't matter like back round? seriously this is a racing game your not exactly going to stop and look at the backround.Ragashahs
How did this ever become the defacto argument to defend GT5P? I don't know about the rest of you but I drive on the background, the midground and the foreground, to me the car model is secondary because I'm looking at the background as I drive not the car model.
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#60 AgentA-Mi6
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Lol, it's a demo. The real one will look ten times as better.girlpowerz
I look forward to it, I Dont care how long it takes to Sony to release Gt5 the final product, rushed games are not for me.
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#61 thrones
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I love how it's a demo when talking about what's missing, and a full game when talking about the price. Pick a side, Sony fans.lowe0

I'm picking a demo which you pay for so you get to play alot of content an entire year early. How about that?

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#62 saolin323
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[QUOTE="girlpowerz"]Lol, it's a demo. The real one will look ten times as better.AgentA-Mi6
I look forward to it, I Dont care how long it takes to Sony to release Gt5 the final product, rushed games are not for me.

The final one will look just a bit better than the demo, as with all demos and the games after them IMO

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#63 EmperorSupreme
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You got shot down with your post last week as never even having GranTurismo. A week ago and were discovered to be a lemming. So now you tweaked your post to sound like a cow?

Nice try.

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#64 ithilgore2006
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[QUOTE="Supafly1"]

[QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"][QUOTE="daveg1"]everyone needs to realise the ps3 isnt what sonys claims.Forensic-Klown

care to elaborate?

4D and 120fps.

wasn't 120fps concerning video?

4D is possible...just not in that particular way many think it is.

but SONY need to stop talking and show stuff, like MS...both company's can be idiots...who cares.

Elaborate.
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#65 james28893
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You rather look at dirt while you are driving a gorgeous car instead of looking at the car???Omnisystem

So when you're driving a real car, you're not paying attention to the road, but to the car, that could be dangerous.

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#66 saolin323
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You got shot down with your post last week as never even having GranTurismo. A week ago and were discovered to be a lemming. So now you tweaked your post to sound like a cow?

Nice try.

EmperorSupreme

Was that for me ???

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#67 Dreams-Visions
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What I find funny in this thread is that it contradicts everything cows have been saying up to this point.

Cows- It's a DEMO so it's not perfect.

Me- So a demo costs $40?

Cows- NO, it's not a demo it's prologue!

Me- so your basically paying for a BETA?

Cows- NO it is a game with more content than most games out there.

Me- But you called it a demo a moment ago that's why the flaws of this prologue was acceptable.

Then repeat.JLF1

this post wins thread.

I'm still on the fence about this one. Need moar reviews.

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#68 toxicmog
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You rather look at dirt while you are driving a gorgeous car instead of looking at the car???Omnisystem

i think he means the overall appearance of the game, everything should be just as detailed as the cars.

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#69 Phazevariance
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everyone needs to realise the ps3 isnt what sonys claims.daveg1

Truer words have never been spoken.

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#70 EmperorSupreme
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[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

You got shot down with your post last week as never even having GranTurismo. A week ago and were discovered to be a lemming. So now you tweaked your post to sound like a cow?

Nice try.

saolin323

Was that for me ???

Sorry for the confusion, it's for the topic creator. He posted he owned this game last week and got owned by people who actually have the game. Anyway he essentially tweaked his original fake post.

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#71 saolin323
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[QUOTE="JLF1"]What I find funny in this thread is that it contradicts everything cows have been saying up to this point.

Cows- It's a DEMO so it's not perfect.

Me- So a demo costs $40?

Cows- NO, it's not a demo it's prologue!

Me- so your basically paying for a BETA?

Cows- NO it is a game with more content than most games out there.

Me- But you called it a demo a moment ago that's why the flaws of this prologue was acceptable.

Then repeat.Dreams-Visions

this post wins thread.

I'm still on the fence about this one. Need moar reviews.

hahaha, god like post :)

PGR4 costs more, but has a final game's environments around, and fra more beautifull visuals IMO

And yes, i have played both

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#72 GnR-SLaSh
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You rather look at dirt while you are driving a gorgeous car instead of looking at the car???Omnisystem

Exactly what I was thinking...

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#73 l-_-l
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I have been playing GT5

Marcbarr1
I stopped reading right there. Sorry, but GT5 doesn't come out until way later this year.
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#74 Albanian_Killa
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="JLF1"]What I find funny in this thread is that it contradicts everything cows have been saying up to this point.

Cows- It's a DEMO so it's not perfect.

Me- So a demo costs $40?

Cows- NO, it's not a demo it's prologue!

Me- so your basically paying for a BETA?

Cows- NO it is a game with more content than most games out there.

Me- But you called it a demo a moment ago that's why the flaws of this prologue was acceptable.

Then repeat.saolin323

this post wins thread.

I'm still on the fence about this one. Need moar reviews.

hahaha, god like post :)

PGR4 costs more, but has a final game's environments around, and fra more beautifull visuals IMO

And yes, i have played both

I'm sorry saolin (the person who says PS3 has no AAA but when it comes down to it for him, reviews mean nothing. Contradicting yourself), but that is not GT5: Prologue. That's the DEMO of Prologue. The Japanese demo. You only play Suzuka and you have a few vehicles. The demo has graphical hitches not found on the final version such as the messed up mirror, hand movements not being exact, and of course, you haven't played other tracks such as the London track. Please stop your BS because you claim you're no fanboy, but I can go download a demo of BioShock on XBOX Live and claim I have the game and it sucks. Suzuka, even in real life, is not the best visually pleasing place. Cut the crap. You don't have Prologue, just a demo of it that I have too.

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#75 Albanian_Killa
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[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

You got shot down with your post last week as never even having GranTurismo. A week ago and were discovered to be a lemming. So now you tweaked your post to sound like a cow?

Nice try.

saolin323

Was that for me ???

It was for you, why don't you also read my post. I just discovered you out for not having Prologue.

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#76 JLF1
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[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

You got shot down with your post last week as never even having GranTurismo. A week ago and were discovered to be a lemming. So now you tweaked your post to sound like a cow?

Nice try.

Albanian_Killa

Was that for me ???

It was for you, why don't you also read my post. I just discovered you out for not having Prologue.


How do you know that's not prologue but a demo of it?
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#77 Albanian_Killa
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[QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"][QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

You got shot down with your post last week as never even having GranTurismo. A week ago and were discovered to be a lemming. So now you tweaked your post to sound like a cow?

Nice try.

JLF1

Was that for me ???

It was for you, why don't you also read my post. I just discovered you out for not having Prologue.


How do you know that's not prologue but a demo of it?

Read the post above. It's the DEMO of Prologue. It's like me getting the demo of Call of Duty 4 for PC and saying "Hey! I have Call of Duty 4!". There are MANY different things in graphics between Prologue and the demo of it. The demo also only has Suzuka, which is not a visually pleasing place, even in real life. The London track is different.

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#79 _Celldweller_
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........Demo......beta......no final.........program code not complete............close this worthless post
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#80 leejohnson7
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[QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"][QUOTE="daveg1"]everyone needs to realise the ps3 isnt what sonys claims.Supafly1

care to elaborate?

4D and 120fps.

Didn't you do metaphors at school?

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#81 lolkie_81
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........Demo......beta......no final.........program code not complete............close this worthless post_Celldweller_

You all said the same thing about heavenly sword, after that demo was realeased. Funny how that game turned out just like the demo. Combat kinda lame, screen tearing none of that was fixed as you all claimed it would be. Im sure gt5 will have improvements but I wouldnt hold my breath as to the graphics having a total overhaul. I think it close to final graphics. Time will tell.

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#82 leejohnson7
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You guys will actually find that Cows are different people in one group. So say individual usernames instead of "Cows" because nobody contradicts themselves that quickly.

Prologue isn't a demo. It technically isn't, you need to look at how it is improving over GT4, without even considering their future plans. How has Forza 2 changed over Forza? Has it changed? Apart from graphics I'm not seeing much difference.

I am sure you guys know GT owns the race genre, especially in sales Sheep, so cut the crap and admit it - give it the due credit.

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#83 3picuri3
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You guys will actually find that Cows are different people in one group. So say individual usernames instead of "Cows" because nobody contradicts themselves that quickly.

Prologue isn't a demo. It technically isn't, you need to look at how it is improving over GT4, without even considering their future plans. How has Forza 2 changed over Forza? Has it changed? Apart from graphics I'm not seeing much difference.

I am sure you guys know GT owns the race genre, especially in sales Sheep, so cut the crap and admit it - give it the due credit.

leejohnson7

nice try - but GT5 suffered a massive downgrade and suffers from all the things cows hammered forza 2 for. there's no way in hell anyone is going to stop pointing that out... and just because you think its pwns the racing genre it doesn't make is so :P sorry.

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#85 hayato_
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Great job polyphony! Keep up the good work. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Fans/newcomers are gonna eat this up.

Hasn't the prologue already sold well.

And of of a sudden prologues are bad now. Give me a break:roll:

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#86 leejohnson7
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[QUOTE="leejohnson7"]

You guys will actually find that Cows are different people in one group. So say individual usernames instead of "Cows" because nobody contradicts themselves that quickly.

Prologue isn't a demo. It technically isn't, you need to look at how it is improving over GT4, without even considering their future plans. How has Forza 2 changed over Forza? Has it changed? Apart from graphics I'm not seeing much difference.

I am sure you guys know GT owns the race genre, especially in sales Sheep, so cut the crap and admit it - give it the due credit.

3picuri3

nice try - but GT5 suffered a massive downgrade and suffers from all the things cows hammered forza 2 for. there's no way in hell anyone is going to stop pointing that out... and just because you think its pwns the racing genre it doesn't make is so :P sorry.

This massive downgrade must be at the least, grossly exaggerated because I never noticed. I may have enjoyed Forza 2's slightly more dynamic gameplay, but the GT series as a whole, in almost every aspect is better. Even the art style and presentation look next gen. I can't put my finger on it, but the game somehow manages to capture the beauty of cars and racing without you even racing yet. Even the choices in music are usually completely appropriate.

The sales of this game make it necessarily so. People wouldn't keep coming back to games they didn't like.

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#87 cobragt4
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another shot of gt5p's london

looks so realistic

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#88 leejohnson7
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another shot of gt5p's london

looks so realistic

cobragt4

Don't take photos, only screenshots.

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#89 Chipp
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[QUOTE="Supafly1"]

[QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"][QUOTE="daveg1"]everyone needs to realise the ps3 isnt what sonys claims.Forensic-Klown

care to elaborate?

4D and 120fps.

wasn't 120fps concerning video?

4D is possible...just not in that particular way many think it is.

but SONY need to stop talking and show stuff, like MS...both company's can be idiots...who cares.

You can't even define 4D.

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#90 niall077
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its 2008.

why ae people still talking about something some guy said 3 years ago?

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#91 Arsenal325
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I have been playing GT5 for the last 2 days and nights and have realised that the game and polyphony digital are pushing the PS3 to far. I can really appreciate PD's ambition but they need to realise the PS3 is not as powerful as sony claim.

The game is sacrificing track detail to get so many cars on the track. I would rather have 6 or 8 cars on track if it give me better track details like 3D trees and skid marks. The track tarmac is lacking and the trees are last generation 2D.

The front end and presentation are first class but there is slowdown and screen tear. I know its a demo but I do't think PD will pull it off.

I think TURN10 will have forza3 nearly completed by the time GT5 comes out and it will most likely build on what was missing in forza2.

Where are the reverse lights, permanent skid marks on track, realistic tyre noises, proper engine sounds, turbo whine when using turbo cars, full camera control around car when playing 3rd person,the decent opponent A.I.?

The london track has slowdown even with only 1 car and poor trackside detail and the building detail and texture is quite poor compared to PGR4's london.

Polyphont digital really,really has its work cut out.

The crowds and spectators are pathetic. Maybe PGR4 and forza 2 has spoiled me to much and I was expecting to much from GT5 but GT5 is meant to be the daddy of racing games. By the quality of and (I know its a demo) this my attitudes are not optimistic.

Marcbarr1

you do realize this isnt GT5 right? GT5 is coming out in 2009..

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#92 Crzy1
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everyone needs to realise the ps3 isnt what sonys claims.daveg1

Agree. 4D gaming? What the hell does that mean? Supercomputer with no branch prediction, speculative execution or out-of-order execution? How does it keep from tripping over itself while running random process threads? 256 MB of RAM? Why does it have less video memory than my video card?

No doubt it's a mean machine, but they built in a lot of flaws to save money as is usually the case with consoles.

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#93 cobragt4
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few more pics

lovely game indeed

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#94 lowe0
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you do realize this isnt GT5 right? GT5 is coming out in 2009.. Arsenal325
Who cares? There's a price tag on GT5P; therefore, it's open season to judge its value against what they're charging.
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#95 readingfc_1
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[QUOTE="Marcbarr1"]

I have been playing GT5 for the last 2 days and nights and have realised that the game and polyphony digital are pushing the PS3 to far. I can really appreciate PD's ambition but they need to realise the PS3 is not as powerful as sony claim.

The game is sacrificing track detail to get so many cars on the track. I would rather have 6 or 8 cars on track if it give me better track details like 3D trees and skid marks. The track tarmac is lacking and the trees are last generation 2D.

The front end and presentation are first class but there is slowdown and screen tear. I know its a demo but I do't think PD will pull it off.

I think TURN10 will have forza3 nearly completed by the time GT5 comes out and it will most likely build on what was missing in forza2.

Where are the reverse lights, permanent skid marks on track, realistic tyre noises, proper engine sounds, turbo whine when using turbo cars, full camera control around car when playing 3rd person,the decent opponent A.I.?

The london track has slowdown even with only 1 car and poor trackside detail and the building detail and texture is quite poor compared to PGR4's london.

Polyphont digital really,really has its work cut out.

The crowds and spectators are pathetic. Maybe PGR4 and forza 2 has spoiled me to much and I was expecting to much from GT5 but GT5 is meant to be the daddy of racing games. By the quality of and (I know its a demo) this my attitudes are not optimistic.

mangas

We must be playing different games...The reference to xbox games tell us where you come from. Nice try.

Hes right though. The car models look good but there is so much aliasing it ruins the overall image. The tracks look sparse and boring and the London track doesn't look as good as it does in PGR. I hope they sort it out because i really enjoy the game but it is still a bit disappointing

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#96 Always-Honest
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lovely game indeed

cobragt4

lovely carmodels you mean?

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#97 EmperorSupreme
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[QUOTE="cobragt4"]

lovely game indeed

Always-Honest

lovely carmodels you mean?

The whole game looks awesome to me, best I've seen so far this generation. Anyone trying to nitpick is just being ridiculous at this point. The game is amazing.

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#98 cobragt4
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lovely game indeed

Always-Honest

lovely carmodels you mean?

all over man. the car models look great and the tracks look realistic, now if you think other then that's on you and most haters

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#99 Always-Honest
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[QUOTE="Always-Honest"][QUOTE="cobragt4"]

lovely game indeed

EmperorSupreme

lovely carmodels you mean?

The whole game looks awesome to me, best I've seen so far this generation. Anyone trying to nitpick is just being ridiculous at this point. The game is amazing.

yet all you talk about is looks.

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#100 espoac
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Isn't complaining about GT5P's graphics sort of pointless when it looks better than any other racer out there?