GT5 - Very 2D Trees

I still think Dirt 2 has better car models and everything else in graphics.

can you tell me which version is this please?

johny300

[QUOTE="johny300"] can you tell me which version is this please?

Stevo_the_gamer

I am using those plus the "Ultra High" mod.

I am using those plus the "Ultra High" mod.Hakkai007

I'm starting to think people on SW only play racing games for graphics ownage.

[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]I am using those plus the "Ultra High" mod.Stevo_the_gamer

Not sure I didn't really compare. But there were like 4-5 settings that had ultra high selectable.

I kept vehicle reflections at ultra because if I go to ultra high it would dramatically lower fps.

[QUOTE="Velocitas8"]

[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

They must have screwed up with the naming then.

8XCSAA is listed after 8XMSAA and is harder on performance it also looks better.

this is how it is listed in the settings.

2MSAA -> 4xMSAA -> 8XMSAA -> 8XCSAA -> 16XCSAA -> 8XQCSAA

Hakkai007

No, 8xCSAA is worse than 8xMSAA.

True 8x Multisampling (8xQ) is better than 8x CSAA and usually slightly worse than 16xCSAA (each of which only use 4x Multisampling.) Unlike 8xCSAA, 8xQ does not use any coverage samples..it is pure multisampling.

Quality-wise, AA levels would be listed something like this:

4x4SSAA > 3x3SSAA> 32xS > 16xS > 8xSQ > 2x2SSAA > 32xQCSAA > 32xCSAA > 16xQCSAA > 16xCSAA > 8xQ > 8xCSAA > 4xMSAA > 2xMSAA

Hmm then the gaming developers are dumber than you and messed up on the AA order. They should get fired and you should take their job. ^^

Ok ill try to clear this up. 8xCSAA is basically a 4xMSAA color sampling with what could be considered and edge blur, it is not as effective as true 8xMSAA since the 8xcsaa keeps the same color information as 4xMSAA would then blurs the edge more or less, whereas 8xMSAA would calculate the final pixel color more effectively, and doesnt have as many errors as 8xcsaa due to the less acurate 4xmsaa base. 8xCSAA can be considered on par only when considering certain types of assets like ropes and the such.

[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

[QUOTE="Velocitas8"]

No, 8xCSAA is worse than 8xMSAA.

True 8x Multisampling (8xQ) is better than 8x CSAA and usually slightly worse than 16xCSAA (each of which only use 4x Multisampling.) Unlike 8xCSAA, 8xQ does not use any coverage samples..it is pure multisampling.

Quality-wise, AA levels would be listed something like this:

4x4SSAA > 3x3SSAA> 32xS > 16xS > 8xSQ > 2x2SSAA > 32xQCSAA > 32xCSAA > 16xQCSAA > 16xCSAA > 8xQ > 8xCSAA > 4xMSAA > 2xMSAA

ferret-gamer

Hmm then the gaming developers are dumber than you and messed up on the AA order. They should get fired and you should take their job. ^^

Ok ill try to clear this up. 8xCSAA is basically a 4xMSAA color sampling with what could be considered and edge blur, it is not as effective as true 8xMSAA since the 8xcsaa keeps the same color information as 4xMSAA would then blurs the edge more or less, whereas 8xMSAA would calculate the final pixel color more effectively, and doesnt have as many errors as 8xcsaa due to the less acurate 4xmsaa base. 8xCSAA can be considered on par only when considering certain types of assets like ropes and the such.

I know I was agreeing with you.

The devs forgot to switch the two AA version.

SO when I selected 8XCSAA I was actually using 8XMSAA.

Another Dirt 2 vehicle.

Dirt 2 has nice graphics but only the PC version is comparable to GT5.......not to mention there's only like 5 rally cars i actually liked in the game so...............................ill go with GT5's superior lighting engine, dirt 2 also has a piss yellow filter which works for the game

GT5's superior lighting engineClassic24

Dirt 2 lol, an yea I own a very high end PC.

Pretty dirt and ok car models. Does not have the penache of even Forza 3.

I actually think that the 360 version of Dirt 2 slaughters Forza 3 in the graphics department.

actually am i crazy or does dirt 2's trees look 2d as well.........at least the lighting in GT5 makes the 2d trees look real

Din't know GT5 was a tree simulator ??

ah well too bad ill driving 200 miles a hour with my photorealistic cars to even notice the trees :/

Din't know GT5 was a tree simulator ??

ChiChiMonKilla

sega genesis tech am fail

Trees in a racing game are you freaking serious..........lol alot of peeps are scared of the GT5 monster apparently...........it reminds me of Halo Reach kinda of

Dirt 2 actually looks really good even on the 360 you be surprised at how good it looks compared to the PC version. PC version obviously looks better, but its not really a night and day difference. As for GT5 I have not played it, but from the videos I have seen its hard to compare the 2 as GT5 has a more realistic look to it.

Dirt 2 has nice graphics but only the PC version is comparable to GT5.......not to mention there's only like 5 rally cars i actually liked in the game so...............................ill go with GT5's superior lighting engine, dirt 2 also has a piss yellow filter which works for the game

Classic24

There are mods which remove that filter.

And I think Dirt2 will have superior lighting.

its official 2D trees ruin racing games.... ohh well am sure 2D trees wont change the fun i'll have racing cars in GT5 offline & online :) G27 wheel is next in my shopping list :P

The only 2D foliage that I noticed were the bushes around the house.
Were the trees really 2D?

I never even saw it.

It sucks when you play a game like oblivion and notice that the bushes turn with the camera :P I have that sometimes and then I can't stop noticing it, breaking the game experience completely.

am I the only one confused that a game in development this long has concrete hay stacks and fences that appear to be mesh/ropes yet these items appear to be stronger than titanium and also have the unfortunate effect of melting cars. Hat off to PD for offering a full package in terms of modes etc. and some seriously pretty car models but in all honesty can we admit from what has been shown there are clearly some issues present.

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]Nerdy argument.OB-47

This is gamespot... we play games...what do you expect

■ models included
1,000 vehicles
170 Premium new models (full interior modeling, the interior corresponds to vehicle damage)
830 kinds of standard model (some are from Gran Turismo 4 that have been carried over to GT5) [Read: Cars we have seen in GT4 before ]

■ Courses
more than 20 courses, more than 60 layouts

■ physical simulation of vehicles
Physics system simulation is brand new
Represented is full fall in vehicles [possibly rollover]
Damage representation (reproduced in full by real-time collision deformation)
faithfully reproducing the behavior of electric cars, i.e. Prius, Insight, hybrid cars and the latest Tesla model

■ Arcade Mode
Single Race
2 player battle

■ GT Mode
World Map
My Garage
Car Dealer
Tuning Shop (parts, tires)
Car Washes/Oil Change
Race Championship (Series system, point system)
License Test

■ Online
Open Lobby
Text / Voice Chat
Private rooms
Online Photo Album
Online Replay Album
YouTube replay output

■ Photo Mode
Photo Drive (Circuit)
Photo stage (Stage Photo mode only)

■ Gran Turismo TV
Video output to a PSP or PSP Go®
Progressive Download
Improved

user interface
Continuous Play for videos

■ Museums
The

Gran Turismo 5 Prologue version, + more information at TGS

■ Sound
Custom soundtracks (Use songs from your PS3 hard-drive)
Dolby Digital 5.1 and 7.1

User Interface
The Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, and the same design concept. The icons change color
Able to track the movement of Cockpit Camera interface (confirmed in full 3-D. The camera can be fully manipulated and you can opt to have your head tracked by the PSEye

(+ much more)

or you could just ask PD to stop concentrating on all these aspects and focus on highly detailed trees :)since that will make your racing exereince better in the game that is supposed to deliver a nice and smooth racing expereince :)

its official 2D trees ruin racing games.... ohh well am sure 2D trees wont change the fun i'll have racing cars in GT5 offline & online :) G27 wheel is next in my shopping list :P

Malta_1980

is this g27 of yours better?

The Cell is too complex to handle 3D trees :lol:

It's true, they do look very 2D however it's not like I won't enjoy the game because of how the tree's look like.:?

[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

its official 2D trees ruin racing games.... ohh well am sure 2D trees wont change the fun i'll have racing cars in GT5 offline & online :) G27 wheel is next in my shopping list :P

iMojo786_PSN

is this g27 of yours better?

I couldn't care less about the trees but that car damage looks bad... really bad.

How does a thread like this garner 132 responses? I mean, really? 2D trees??? I for one am not going to be looking at the damn trees. The developer knows this, they have priorities, and creating every single leave on every single branch on a tree that'll be flying by at 200 mph probably doesn't rank too high up on their priority scale.

[QUOTE="iMojo786_PSN"]

[QUOTE="Malta_1980"] im getting this...

is this g27 of yours better?

SapSacPrime

The Cell is too complex to handle 3D trees :lol:

nameless12345

Gran Turismo 5's damage is better than forza 3, so if GT5's damage looks "bad", then forzas damage looks like doodoo

Why are the haystacks like concrete?CuteCakes

People worrying about concrete hay stacks when you have invisible walls in Dirt 2

1st

2nd

[QUOTE="CuteCakes"]Why are the haystacks like concrete?iMojo786_PSN

i dont understand whats so funny.

Gran Turismo 5's damage is better than forza 3, so if GT5's damage looks "bad", then forzas damage looks like doodoo

Classic24

Forzas damage wooped that ****. GT's looked terrible from that video.

[QUOTE="Classic24"]

Gran Turismo 5's damage is better than forza 3, so if GT5's damage looks "bad", then forzas damage looks like doodoo

iBear-

Forzas damage wooped that ****. GT's looked terrible from that video.

if you are going more than 20 mph, that argument is irrelevant as you wouldn't even notice. going 100mph+, you would only notice whats in front of you and whats in your mirrors.antifanboyftw

[QUOTE="OB-47"]

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]Nerdy argument.iMojo786_PSN

This is gamespot... we play games...what do you expect

■ models included
1,000 vehicles
170 Premium new models (full interior modeling, the interior corresponds to vehicle damage)
830 kinds of standard model (some are from Gran Turismo 4 that have been carried over to GT5) [Read: Cars we have seen in GT4 before ]

■ Courses
more than 20 courses, more than 60 layouts

■ physical simulation of vehicles
Physics system simulation is brand new
Represented is full fall in vehicles [possibly rollover]
Damage representation (reproduced in full by real-time collision deformation)
faithfully reproducing the behavior of electric cars, i.e. Prius, Insight, hybrid cars and the latest Tesla model

■ Arcade Mode
Single Race
2 player battle

■ GT Mode
World Map
My Garage
Car Dealer
Tuning Shop (parts, tires)
Car Washes/Oil Change
Race Championship (Series system, point system)
License Test

■ Online
Open Lobby
Text / Voice Chat
Private rooms
Online Photo Album
Online Replay Album
YouTube replay output

■ Photo Mode
Photo Drive (Circuit)
Photo stage (Stage Photo mode only)

■ Gran Turismo TV
Video output to a PSP or PSP Go®
Progressive Download
Improved

user interface
Continuous Play for videos

■ Museums
The

Gran Turismo 5 Prologue version, + more information at TGS

■ Sound
Custom soundtracks (Use songs from your PS3 hard-drive)
Dolby Digital 5.1 and 7.1

User Interface
The Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, and the same design concept. The icons change color
Able to track the movement of Cockpit Camera interface (confirmed in full 3-D. The camera can be fully manipulated and you can opt to have your head tracked by the PSEye

(+ much more)

or you could just ask PD to stop concentrating on all these aspects and focus on highly detailed trees :)since that will make your racing exereince better in the game that is supposed to deliver a nice and smooth racing expereince :)

I never said GT5 was bad I'm just saying ppl should expect nerdy arguements on gamespot. It is a gaming site after all. AND BTW GT5 and Infamouse 2 are both the reasons I'm getting PS3

[QUOTE="iBear-"]

[QUOTE="Classic24"]

Gran Turismo 5's damage is better than forza 3, so if GT5's damage looks "bad", then forzas damage looks like doodoo

mysterj

Forzas damage wooped that ****. GT's looked terrible from that video.

LOOOOOOLL. pre-baked models??? hhahaha. it was just a head-on collision then suddenly the paint on the back of the car wore off. rofl.

[QUOTE="mysterj"][QUOTE="iBear-"]

Forzas damage wooped that ****. GT's looked terrible from that video.

rawr89

LOOOOOOLL. pre-baked models??? hhahaha. it was just a head-on collision then suddenly the paint on the back of the car wore off. rofl.

IDK this games still looks **** gorgeous

Its a racing game, you're supposed to drive, not climb on trees. BTW, when comparing draw distance, Dirt 2 look far worse than GT5.