GT5 will outsell Halo Reach before year end

I disagree wholeheartedly reach is unstoppable GT isnt what it use to be.bigboss5ak

yet a glorified demo (prologue) sold nearly 5 million copies with a smaller user base :roll:

As I stated though; I still expect GT5 to sell more than Reach. I'm just saying that the past games in the series benefited from having a far larger install base.mythrol

Not just about the install base, GT series help built the install base on the PS2, that's why it ranks as the highest sellers on that system. Gran Turismo is one franchise that is as popular with gamers as it is with non-gamers, expect PS3 sales to reach new heights with the release of GT5 and I am sure it will end up becoming the best selling GT title.

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[QUOTE="mythrol"]TBH I think GT5 will sell more, but it will be close. If you compare the sales history of the two GT5 has won out more than lost; However that was back on PS2 days where Sony controlled a huge % of the market. I think there are a few upper echelon of games that can compete with sales figures. GT series, Halo Series, Modern Warfare series, Mario (main games), GTA series. mythrol

I dont think this matters specially if you consider how bad was the piracy on PS2 and we have some good examples

MGS 4 sold nearly the same as how much its PS2 prequels sold, GoW III is outpacing GoW II according to early reports. FFXIII selling at the same pace as FFXII (on PS3 alone)....

you didnt see any pirated PS2 :P where do you live?

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Also, you are really underestimating the influence that Halo has on the american market.

Swift_Boss_A

Not as much as people are underestimating Gran Turismo in the worldwide market!

You are putting an exclusive near Modern Warfare 2 sales - that will not happen.

R3FURBISHED

You underestimate the popularity of GT in Europe, I assure you it will happen. GT is like a religion in Europe and the franchise as a whole is a lot more popular than Halo worldwide.

[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]

You are putting an exclusive near Modern Warfare 2 sales - that will not happen.

Swift_Boss_A

You underestimate the popularity of GT in Europe, I assure you it will happen. GT is like a religion in Europe and the franchise as a whole is a lot more popular than Halo worldwide.

It will be the highest selling PS3 exclusive, but I dont see it outselling Reach. Halo has set the bar for exclusives in terms of sales and marketing. Hell the only other shooter that beat it was MW/MW2 and those were multiplats. Halo 3 is what close to 11 million by now, and I expect Reach to sell more then that in the long run.

GT has always sold more than Halo, I don't see why that would change now.

good_sk8er7

I expect the massive change in userbase figures will have atleast a bit of an effect.

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[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]

You are putting an exclusive near Modern Warfare 2 sales - that will not happen.

R3FURBISHED

You underestimate the popularity of GT in Europe, I assure you it will happen. GT is like a religion in Europe and the franchise as a whole is a lot more popular than Halo worldwide.

honestly i dont see anyone who both owns a ps3 and 360 looking at both games this fall, will pick GT over halo reach,

[QUOTE="mythrol"][QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

I dont think this matters specially if you consider how bad was the piracy on PS2 and we have some good examples

MGS 4 sold nearly the same as how much its PS2 prequels sold, GoW III is outpacing GoW II according to early reports. FFXIII selling at the same pace as FFXII (on PS3 alone)....

Kashiwaba

you didnt see any pirated PS2 :P where do you live?

[QUOTE="good_sk8er7"]

GT has always sold more than Halo, I don't see why that would change now.

angelkimne

I expect the massive change in userbase figures will have atleast a bit of an effect.

[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]

You are putting an exclusive near Modern Warfare 2 sales - that will not happen.

R3FURBISHED

You underestimate the popularity of GT in Europe, I assure you it will happen. GT is like a religion in Europe and the franchise as a whole is a lot more popular than Halo worldwide.

Correction.

It sold 4.7 million units in 1 day.

"This year" could easily mean December 31st, 2010.

[QUOTE="wolverine4262"]360 has the larger install base....razgriz_101

the install base means didley squat when it comes to flagship games tbh especially ones like GT5 and Halo, as we seen with Halo 3 the 360 im sure had a smaller user base than the PS3 has right now and managed to shift over 10million copies.So that sonny just made your point rather muted.

Also add in the fact GT and Halo ARE system sellers.

doesnt change the fact that a bigger install base could mean more sales.... no point in bringing out the few exceptions to say it doesnt

GT has always sold more than Halo, I don't see why that would change now.

Correction.

It sold 4.7 million units in 1 day.

tonitorsi

I just looked at the source of the 7 million day one sales - and it was VGChartz. :P So that explains why I was so off.

...I could see Reach and GT5 being just short of that.

"This year" could easily mean December 31st, 2010.

foxhound_fox

not sure when either is being released, but halo is a beast in short-term sales... so i would go with that

Doubtful. Chances are Reach will launch in September worldwide and GT5 probably wont release until December, and there is no guarantee of a worldwide release.

GT has always sold more than Halo, I don't see why that would change now.

the only reason that I think this MIGHT not outsell halo reach(although I think it is going to be very close) is the fact that there have been quite a lot of racing games released latly, racing fans may have already gotten there thirst quenched from titles like FOrza or NFS Shift, it really all depends how large the core GT 5 fanbase still is at this point tbh with you. I know it will definetly sell millions, but I really think it will be nceck and neck with reach.

Gran Turismo only sold 1.18 million on the PSP. Im not saying this has any direct effect on GT5's sales, but I just don't think people should be so sure GT5 will be a sales juggernaut. Anjunaddict

1.18 mils on PSP is great if you consider how much software PSP is moving recently (its dead).

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]Gran Turismo only sold 1.18 million on the PSP. Im not saying this has any direct effect on GT5's sales, but I just don't think people should be so sure GT5 will be a sales juggernaut. Kashiwaba

1.18 mils on PSP is great if you consider how much software PSP is moving recently (its dead).

No set release date = no confirmation for me

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[QUOTE="mythrol"] And the 360 doesn't have piracy? TBH I've never seen a pirated PS2. And I highly doubt that effected GT sales especially when there was 120m+ PS2 in circulation. I'd be willing to bet that had more of an impact. The other games you mentioned all had extenuating circumstances. MGS4 was the first "BIG" PS3 game. GOW3 was the end of the trilogy, and GOW2 was a late gen PS2 release (after the PS3 was already out) that could have been easy for some to overlook. FFXIII came when there was a huge JRPG drought and the last FF game was released over 5 years ago. As I stated though; I still expect GT5 to sell more than Reach. I'm just saying that the past games in the series benefited from having a far larger install base.mythrol

you didnt see any pirated PS2 :P where do you live?

I've seen 2 unpirated PS2s in my whole life :P one is mine and the other one was my friend PS2 + also if you checked torrent sites and seen how many people were downloading games I remember the night when MGS3 came out I checked Uwant (a Chinese torrent files site) and I was shocked by the number of the people who downloaded it it was above 200k.

GT franchise sold alot because of high install base...GT5 wont do 10 mill because you already know why.

Soooo, GT5P sold 4.6 million (not even the best selling game on the PS3) and GT5 will sell more then Halo: Reach (a major Halo release)... I doubt either will sell better then one another but I don't think GT5 will be on top at the end of the year.Shattered007

GT5P doesnt represent real GT games sales like how Halo 3 ODST doesnt represent Halo series sales ==;.

[QUOTE="Shattered007"]Soooo, GT5P sold 4.6 million (not even the best selling game on the PS3) and GT5 will sell more then Halo: Reach (a major Halo release)... I doubt either will sell better then one another but I don't think GT5 will be on top at the end of the year.Kashiwaba

GT5P doesnt represent real GT games sales like how Halo 3 ODST doesnt represent Halo series sales ==;.

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]Gran Turismo only sold 1.18 million on the PSP. Im not saying this has any direct effect on GT5's sales, but I just don't think people should be so sure GT5 will be a sales juggernaut. Anjunaddict

1.18 mils on PSP is great if you consider how much software PSP is moving recently (its dead).

Save it from what PSP is already at 62 mils ==; it doesnt need saving and it cant be saved piracy is what killed PSP all who wants the game will go to any PSP hack site and download it.

I'm not buying either one..........am i doing it wrong?

I doubt it.

As powerful as Microsoft's marketing machine is? Don't underestimate them.

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

[QUOTE="Shattered007"]Soooo, GT5P sold 4.6 million (not even the best selling game on the PS3) and GT5 will sell more then Halo: Reach (a major Halo release)... I doubt either will sell better then one another but I don't think GT5 will be on top at the end of the year.Anjunaddict

GT5P doesnt represent real GT games sales like how Halo 3 ODST doesnt represent Halo series sales ==;.

Ya but prologue was a demo and ODST a full game or at least an expansion are you saying 360 owners wont spend $60 on their most famous game on 360?

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"][QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

GT5P doesnt represent real GT games sales like how Halo 3 ODST doesnt represent Halo series sales ==;.

Kashiwaba

Ya but prologue was a demo and ODST a full game or at least an expansion are you saying 360 owners wont spend $60 on their most famous game on 360?

yeah, but it really wasnt a FULL game... its pretty much an expansion

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"][QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

GT5P doesnt represent real GT games sales like how Halo 3 ODST doesnt represent Halo series sales ==;.

Kashiwaba

Ya but prologue was a demo and ODST a full game or at least an expansion are you saying 360 owners wont spend $60 on their most famous game on 360?

It will all come down to marketing, or more specifically Sony's marketing. Everyone knows what Microsofts's Halo hype juggernaut is all about, but no one reallyknows how much Sony will market GT5. Sony has had great ads lately, but very few of them have been on TV. If they actually invest a lot into it, I could possibly see it happening.

last generation seemed to be flooded with racing games because thats what casuals wanted, and since gt is the biggest name in racing it sold like crazy. this gen however seems to be flooded with fps and casuals just eat em up. thats why i think reach will sell more. i didn't do any research on number of racing games this gen compared to last gen im just going by what i've seen when i go to places like gamestop and best buy, so i could be completely wrong.

I doubt it.

As powerful as Microsoft's marketing machine is? Don't underestimate them.

The_Game21x

I doubt it.

As powerful as Microsoft's marketing machine is? Don't underestimate them.

The_Game21x

GT5 will outsell Halo Reach in less than zero days?

The game hasn't been release yet and sony is jumping to conclusions by saying that the game will out sell halo reach? I'm skeptical about it. Halo have a huge fanbase which is something that sony can not deny.