GT5P - shipping without private matches / in-game voice

http://kotaku.com/370508/gt5-prologue-to-be-updated-after-launch

so the much hyped retail preview of GT5 (aka the demo the cows will pay for :P) will ship without private friend matches or in-game voice. anyone interested in communication and privacy will have to wait until those features are patched in.

i don't want to sound like a total fanboy, but now GT5p is looking like a beta of a demo - lacking key features to be added later. guess this is what happens when Sony has a gun to your head and has already announced bundles and release dates.

so what do people think? this is waiting? xbox live isn't looking too expensive now is it....

honestly i don't mind. i wouldn't even mind if GT5P would ship without the online multiplayer feature.

i am still enjoying the one track demo that was released last year. i don't use voice chat at all so it really is no problem for me.

i heard they will introduce these features in the first update. it's probably a big dissappointment for people who like this stuff.

Don't need to talk to anyone during a racing game personally. If it is something that is coming in an update that you really need to play a racing game , then just pick the game up then if you want.

I'm not really that suprised, I mean its just a demo..

wow, a lot of sony / polyphony apologists in this thread ;) but i thought next gen didn't start until Sony said it did... ffs even original xbox racers had private matches and voice build in. i can see how sony survives now though with all these people that at one moment hype the next gen features and free psn, then turn around and say they don't care about voice or online. hi-larious.3picuri3

You do know this is not the final product...The final product is GT5. This is a Prologue. You ever read a script for English class, they always have Prologues (ex. Romeo and Juliet). This is like that. It's NOT a demo, but a Prologue.

You can call it all you want, but with

60+ Cars

Tuned Cars

10 Tracks

16 Player Online

Gran Turismo Mode

Customization and Tuning

2-Player Split Screen offline

and

The Ferrari F1 2007,

the Gran Turismo Prologue series is more than just a beta of a "demo".

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]wow, a lot of sony / polyphony apologists in this thread ;) but i thought next gen didn't start until Sony said it did... ffs even original xbox racers had private matches and voice build in. i can see how sony survives now though with all these people that at one moment hype the next gen features and free psn, then turn around and say they don't care about voice or online. hi-larious.Albanian_Killa

You do know this is not the final product...The final product is GT5. This is a Prologue. You ever read a script for English class, they always have Prologues (ex. Romeo and Juliet). This is like that. It's NOT a demo, but a Prologue.

I keep saying this and nobody understands it. I'm glad you do. :)

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]wow, a lot of sony / polyphony apologists in this thread ;) but i thought next gen didn't start until Sony said it did... ffs even original xbox racers had private matches and voice build in. i can see how sony survives now though with all these people that at one moment hype the next gen features and free psn, then turn around and say they don't care about voice or online. hi-larious.Albanian_Killa

You do know this is not the final product...The final product is GT5. This is a Prologue. You ever read a script for English class, they always have Prologues (ex. Romeo and Juliet). This is like that. It's NOT a demo, but a Prologue.

lmao. splitting hairs pally.

i'll try to help you understand. outline to me what a demo is, what it includes, what it represents - then outline what a prologue is, what is inclued, and what it represents. i'll make this like english class :)

Great to know they are adding those features to Prologue.

[QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"]

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]wow, a lot of sony / polyphony apologists in this thread ;) but i thought next gen didn't start until Sony said it did... ffs even original xbox racers had private matches and voice build in. i can see how sony survives now though with all these people that at one moment hype the next gen features and free psn, then turn around and say they don't care about voice or online. hi-larious.Rikusaki

You do know this is not the final product...The final product is GT5. This is a Prologue. You ever read a script for English class, they always have Prologues (ex. Romeo and Juliet). This is like that. It's NOT a demo, but a Prologue.

I keep saying this and nobody understands it. I'm glad you do. :)

both of you are just lost in the semantics, a demo and prologue are one in the same. it's hilarious that both of you are so stubborn. i guess polyphony really knows how to market :)

You can call it all you want, but with

60+ Cars

Tuned Cars

10 Tracks

16 Player Online

Gran Turismo Mode

Customization and Tuning

2-Player Split Screen offline

and

The Ferrari F1 2007,

the Gran Turismo Prologue series is more than just a beta of a "demo".

Rikusaki

great, betas are often fully featured.

do you want to argue that polyphony won't use any of the information they gather from GT5p in the final retail?

That sucks but don't blame sony, blame Polyphony, this is there first go at online and they are not too experiencedf50p90

i dunno, i have a feeling Sony put a lot of pressure on Poly to launch it a bit early - and I'm nearly positive they wouldn't have been given an extension is they asked.

[QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"]

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]wow, a lot of sony / polyphony apologists in this thread ;) but i thought next gen didn't start until Sony said it did... ffs even original xbox racers had private matches and voice build in. i can see how sony survives now though with all these people that at one moment hype the next gen features and free psn, then turn around and say they don't care about voice or online. hi-larious.Rikusaki

You do know this is not the final product...The final product is GT5. This is a Prologue. You ever read a script for English class, they always have Prologues (ex. Romeo and Juliet). This is like that. It's NOT a demo, but a Prologue.

I keep saying this and nobody understands it. I'm glad you do. :)

i understand fully what Prologue is but i just dont like to get teased:cry:

[QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"]

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]wow, a lot of sony / polyphony apologists in this thread ;) but i thought next gen didn't start until Sony said it did... ffs even original xbox racers had private matches and voice build in. i can see how sony survives now though with all these people that at one moment hype the next gen features and free psn, then turn around and say they don't care about voice or online. hi-larious.3picuri3

You do know this is not the final product...The final product is GT5. This is a Prologue. You ever read a script for English class, they always have Prologues (ex. Romeo and Juliet). This is like that. It's NOT a demo, but a Prologue.

lmao. splitting hairs pally.

i'll try to help you understand. outline to me what a demo is, what it includes, what it represents - then outline what a prologue is, what is inclued, and what it represents. i'll make this like english class :)

Oh no you didn't!

lol, ok, I'll tell you what a demo is and what a Prologue is. I thought people knew this.

First, a demo shows one part/one level of a game. They don't outline what the game is about as much, but they give you a small taste of the gameplay. They don't offer many features, or many options such as weapons, etc. They most likely don't offer online gameplay,

Now, GT5:Prologue offers 60+ cars. PGR3 had around 90. It offers more than one track. It offers tuning options (not found in the Japanese version). It offers a storyline (build your way up to the best by winning races and buying cars, etc.). It offers a video service GTTV. It offers different options that are customizable such as controls, video, audio, anything you want. It offers full online with 16 players. It also offers events, and a weather tracker meaning it'll show the weather on a certain track as it's happening via Internet connection.

Make it clear? To sum it all up, a Prologue offers a lot more than a demo. A demo you can finish in 10 minutes and be done with it. A Prologue you'll have a while with it, and for the GT fans, it's enough for us until GT5 comes out. As Apu from The Simpsons says, Thank you come again!

if one cow, just one can explain to me how a Prologue is DIFFERENT than a Demo I'll be a happy man. and don't try to use analogies to books, or other media that don't make sense. explain to me what a prologue is in detail, then explain to me what a demo is in detail, then try to distinguish between the two. 3picuri3

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"]

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]wow, a lot of sony / polyphony apologists in this thread ;) but i thought next gen didn't start until Sony said it did... ffs even original xbox racers had private matches and voice build in. i can see how sony survives now though with all these people that at one moment hype the next gen features and free psn, then turn around and say they don't care about voice or online. hi-larious.Albanian_Killa

You do know this is not the final product...The final product is GT5. This is a Prologue. You ever read a script for English class, they always have Prologues (ex. Romeo and Juliet). This is like that. It's NOT a demo, but a Prologue.

lmao. splitting hairs pally.

i'll try to help you understand. outline to me what a demo is, what it includes, what it represents - then outline what a prologue is, what is inclued, and what it represents. i'll make this like english class :)

Oh no you didn't!

lol, ok, I'll tell you what a demo is and what a Prologue is. I thought people knew this.

First, a demo shows one part/one level of a game. They don't outline what the game is about as much, but they give you a small taste of the gameplay. They don't offer many features, or many options such as weapons, etc. They most likely don't offer online gameplay,

Now, GT5:Prologue offers 60+ cars. PGR3 had around 90. It offers more than one track. It offers tuning options (not found in the Japanese version). It offers a storyline (build your way up to the best by winning races and buying cars, etc.). It offers a video service GTTV. It offers different options that are customizable such as controls, video, audio, anything you want. It offers full online with 16 players. It also offers events, and a weather tracker meaning it'll show the weather on a certain track as it's happening via Internet connection.

Make it clear? To sum it all up, a Prologue offers a lot more than a demo. A demo you can finish in 10 minutes and be done with it. A Prologue you'll have a while with it, and for the GT fans, it's enough for us until GT5 comes out. As Apu from The Simpsons says, Thank you come again!

that's what i think. i rather buy this so called "demo" and having fun playing it, than having to wait until spring 09 to get GT5 and for all those who complain about selling a demo, nobody forces you to buy it. GT fans will enjoy prologue for sure.

ZOMG GT5P is broken just like Brawl is because of no voice chat!

Just kidding, but thats not cool. Even Wii games have private matches. Defense, cows?

ZOMG GT5P is broken just like Brawl is because of no voice chat!

Just kidding, but thats not cool. Even Wii games have private matches. Defense, cows?

Grodus5

Did you even bother to read the rest of this thread before coming in here with your ZOMGs?

First, a demo shows one part/one level of a game. They don't outline what the game is about as much, but they give you a small taste of the gameplay. They don't offer many features, or many options such as weapons, etc. They most likely don't offer online gameplay,

Albanian_Killa

Actually, a lot of PC demos offer far more than what you've outlined here.

[QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"]

First, a demo shows one part/one level of a game. They don't outline what the game is about as much, but they give you a small taste of the gameplay. They don't offer many features, or many options such as weapons, etc. They most likely don't offer online gameplay,

mattbbpl

Actually, a lot of PC demos offer far more than what you've outlined here.

We're talking about consoles here. I know PC demos are more in-depth, but not as much as GT5: Prologue.

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"]

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]wow, a lot of sony / polyphony apologists in this thread ;) but i thought next gen didn't start until Sony said it did... ffs even original xbox racers had private matches and voice build in. i can see how sony survives now though with all these people that at one moment hype the next gen features and free psn, then turn around and say they don't care about voice or online. hi-larious.thegoldenpoo

You do know this is not the final product...The final product is GT5. This is a Prologue. You ever read a script for English class, they always have Prologues (ex. Romeo and Juliet). This is like that. It's NOT a demo, but a Prologue.

I keep saying this and nobody understands it. I'm glad you do. :)

You buy us a dictionary? Oh please :roll: Have you checked your spelling? "a prolog" "incompleat" "how stupid are you people?" Well, we're not stupid judging by your spelling, you're the stupid one telling us we need dictionaries. The Prologue shows us a good amount of GT5. Don't like it? Don't buy it. The hardcore fans will, which in PAL regions, more than 1 million have pre-ordered the hard copy. Imagine the PS Store version...

GT HD was a demo!!!

GT5P, imo, is not a demo. everything that is included with GT5P shows that its not. This is just me and i dont expect others to view this game as I do, but when i see GT5P, all i see is the first GT, and everyone knows that it wasnt a demo. They are the same game minus online.

Ever since Forza and PG came out, everyone wants to diss GT, knowing that GT is the best racing game series out there. I've played them all, Forza is garbage, i never liked PG AKA Metropolitan Street Racer (Dreamcast).

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"]

First, a demo shows one part/one level of a game. They don't outline what the game is about as much, but they give you a small taste of the gameplay. They don't offer many features, or many options such as weapons, etc. They most likely don't offer online gameplay,

Albanian_Killa

Actually, a lot of PC demos offer far more than what you've outlined here.

We're talking about consoles here. I know PC demos are more in-depth, but not as much as GT5: Prologue.

Eh, a demos a demo regardless of the platform as far as I see it.

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"]

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]wow, a lot of sony / polyphony apologists in this thread ;) but i thought next gen didn't start until Sony said it did... ffs even original xbox racers had private matches and voice build in. i can see how sony survives now though with all these people that at one moment hype the next gen features and free psn, then turn around and say they don't care about voice or online. hi-larious.Albanian_Killa

You do know this is not the final product...The final product is GT5. This is a Prologue. You ever read a script for English class, they always have Prologues (ex. Romeo and Juliet). This is like that. It's NOT a demo, but a Prologue.

lmao. splitting hairs pally.

i'll try to help you understand. outline to me what a demo is, what it includes, what it represents - then outline what a prologue is, what is inclued, and what it represents. i'll make this like english class :)

Oh no you didn't!

lol, ok, I'll tell you what a demo is and what a Prologue is. I thought people knew this.

First, a demo shows one part/one level of a game. They don't outline what the game is about as much, but they give you a small taste of the gameplay. They don't offer many features, or many options such as weapons, etc. They most likely don't offer online gameplay,

Now, GT5:Prologue offers 60+ cars. PGR3 had around 90. It offers more than one track. It offers tuning options (not found in the Japanese version). It offers a storyline (build your way up to the best by winning races and buying cars, etc.). It offers a video service GTTV. It offers different options that are customizable such as controls, video, audio, anything you want. It offers full online with 16 players. It also offers events, and a weather tracker meaning it'll show the weather on a certain track as it's happening via Internet connection.

Make it clear? To sum it all up, a Prologue offers a lot more than a demo. A demo you can finish in 10 minutes and be done with it. A Prologue you'll have a while with it, and for the GT fans, it's enough for us until GT5 comes out. As Apu from The Simpsons says, Thank you come again!

even though your right, you shouldnt care if they think its a demo or not, whether they want to buy it or not thats their loss. it already has a million preorders and ill be preordering it soon with a wheel. i can't wait

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]if one cow, just one can explain to me how a Prologue is DIFFERENT than a Demo I'll be a happy man. and don't try to use analogies to books, or other media that don't make sense. explain to me what a prologue is in detail, then explain to me what a demo is in detail, then try to distinguish between the two. f50p90

still a demo though, a big one - but definitely a demo.

GT HD was a demo!!!

GT5P, imo, is not a demo. everything that is included with GT5P shows that its not. This is just me and i dont expect others to view this game as I do, but when i see GT5P, all i see is the first GT, and everyone knows that it wasnt a demo. They are the same game minus online.

Ever since Forza and PG came out, everyone wants to diss GT, knowing that GT is the best racing game series out there. I've played them all, Forza is garbage, i never liked PG AKA Metropolitan Street Racer (Dreamcast).

Vectah_Sigma

how is it not a demo? it uses the same engine, has the same features (more to come), all the cars in it will be in the final GT5 - same with the tracks.

i'd agree with you if it was a different game, but it isn't.. in order for it to NOT be a demo it would have to be different than GT5 final imo.

anyways, dunno why im arguing with you.. any racing fan wouldn't call forza garbage.. i'm a gamer, not a fanboy. i just want people to admit prologue is just spin for 'extended demo'.

[QUOTE="Vectah_Sigma"]

GT HD was a demo!!!

GT5P, imo, is not a demo. everything that is included with GT5P shows that its not. This is just me and i dont expect others to view this game as I do, but when i see GT5P, all i see is the first GT, and everyone knows that it wasnt a demo. They are the same game minus online.

Ever since Forza and PG came out, everyone wants to diss GT, knowing that GT is the best racing game series out there. I've played them all, Forza is garbage, i never liked PG AKA Metropolitan Street Racer (Dreamcast).

3picuri3

how is it not a demo? it uses the same engine, has the same features (more to come), all the cars in it will be in the final GT5 - same with the tracks.

i'd agree with you if it was a different game, but it isn't.. in order for it to NOT be a demo it would have to be different than GT5 final imo.

anyways, dunno why im arguing with you.. any racing fan wouldn't call forza garbage.. i'm a gamer, not a fanboy. i just want people to admit prologue is just spin for 'extended demo'.

why does it matter if its a demo or not

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Vectah_Sigma"]

GT HD was a demo!!!

GT5P, imo, is not a demo. everything that is included with GT5P shows that its not. This is just me and i dont expect others to view this game as I do, but when i see GT5P, all i see is the first GT, and everyone knows that it wasnt a demo. They are the same game minus online.

Ever since Forza and PG came out, everyone wants to diss GT, knowing that GT is the best racing game series out there. I've played them all, Forza is garbage, i never liked PG AKA Metropolitan Street Racer (Dreamcast).

Arjdagr8

how is it not a demo? it uses the same engine, has the same features (more to come), all the cars in it will be in the final GT5 - same with the tracks.

i'd agree with you if it was a different game, but it isn't.. in order for it to NOT be a demo it would have to be different than GT5 final imo.

anyways, dunno why im arguing with you.. any racing fan wouldn't call forza garbage.. i'm a gamer, not a fanboy. i just want people to admit prologue is just spin for 'extended demo'.

why does it matter if its a demo or not

because nearly every cow says it's not, and argues it's a prologue. just trying to clear things up ;)

prologue=demo

[QUOTE="Arjdagr8"][QUOTE="3picuri3"]

how is it not a demo? it uses the same engine, has the same features (more to come), all the cars in it will be in the final GT5 - same with the tracks.

i'd agree with you if it was a different game, but it isn't.. in order for it to NOT be a demo it would have to be different than GT5 final imo.

anyways, dunno why im arguing with you.. any racing fan wouldn't call forza garbage.. i'm a gamer, not a fanboy. i just want people to admit prologue is just spin for 'extended demo'.

3picuri3

why does it matter if its a demo or not

because nearly every cow says it's not, and argues it's a prologue. just trying to clear things up ;)

prologue=demo

ok i disagree but whatever. why would that matter though? who cares about system fanboys. i dont understand how it being a 'demo' would have any relevance to anything.

patching in ftw!

At least it wont require the patch to play offline ;)

GT5Phail

ReverseCycology

It doesn't matter to me I'm getting it no matter what.

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Arjdagr8"][QUOTE="3picuri3"]

how is it not a demo? it uses the same engine, has the same features (more to come), all the cars in it will be in the final GT5 - same with the tracks.

i'd agree with you if it was a different game, but it isn't.. in order for it to NOT be a demo it would have to be different than GT5 final imo.

anyways, dunno why im arguing with you.. any racing fan wouldn't call forza garbage.. i'm a gamer, not a fanboy. i just want people to admit prologue is just spin for 'extended demo'.

Arjdagr8

why does it matter if its a demo or not

because nearly every cow says it's not, and argues it's a prologue. just trying to clear things up ;)

prologue=demo

ok i disagree but whatever. why would that matter though? who cares about system fanboys. i dont understand how it being a 'demo' would have any relevance to anything.

The Sony overhype machine strikes again, keep buying this demo and soon ALL PS3 demos will be called Prologe and charged...DXGreat1_HGL

Errr..there's been GT prologues since number 3 I think. And if consumers buy it, it means the consumer wants it. It makes sense for them to provide it then.