GTA 4 for the PS3 is totally gimped compared to the 360 version

gta 4 ps3 inferior version FACT

gta 4 x360 superior version FACT


rockstar and microsoft have confirmed it so get over it cows your gona get a inferior version.

Maybe you should re do the Title.

Everybody will get to exprience GTA 4 in its entirely

Just the 360 owners are getting something more.

Fans will be pleased on both consoles. Nuff said.

You know what!! Than why have the 360 version of GTA4??? It's pointless!! The PC version will be far better than that!!

So why would you buy the 360 version??? For that DLC??? ha!! the PC version will have mods. So many improovements and much better graphics!!!!

So what is your argument again?

NathanDrake

Did I once mention the PC? :| Didn't think so...

it is better.... but the fact you pay for it ruins any big ownage IMO...

and gta4 is gonna be insane either way. what i want to know is will gamespot take the content into consideration

hip-hop-cola2

No difference then people paying $$ for extra content in Warhawk, for online mode in Virtual Fighter 5 and $39.99 for GT5 Prologue demo. You under estimate how many people are going to get this content, whether they have to pay for it or not.

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You know what!! Than why have the 360 version of GTA4??? It's pointless!! The PC version will be far better than that!!

So why would you buy the 360 version??? For that DLC??? ha!! the PC version will have mods. So many improovements and much better graphics!!!!

So what is your argument again?

NathanDrake

No one cares about the PC version. Did Rockstar Games even announce a PC version? :lol: Who cares about something that's going to come out a year after everyone else have played the game to death?

Gears on PC was released a year after it's 360 counterpart. Halo 2 over two years after its Xbox counterpart. GTA IV will be released the same day on both consoles.

Both will sell, and while Rockstar will release DLC 3 months after release for the 360 version, I can bet they won't just ignore the PS3 owners... money is to be made, and DLC on 2 consoles is better than DLC on one.

Udsen

You're not getting it - Microsoft PAID ROCKSTAR for exclusivity here. Rockstar can't put anything on the PS3 version of the game that Microsoft doesn't want PS3 owners to get. So while 360 owners get an expansion, PS3 owners will get a bug fix. That's hardly fair - but MS is playing hardball.

The contracts are already signed, stamped, and dated - they stamped the contract in daemon blood, and signed post-script "screw you PS3 owners".

It's sad, I mean, it really is sad, but right now the situation is airtight. The TC is being a bit of a fanboy about it - I'm not rubbing it in faces, I could care less, but the reality is that if you're a GTA IV fan, you are not getting anything significant beyond what is on the retail release UNLESS you buy the 360 version.

That's seriously smart business on MS' part - it's downright mean, because people hate the idea of getting the gimp version.

:lol: Who cares about something that's going to come out a year after everyone else have played the game to death? blackace

You mean the DLC?

You don't have to mention it....you just make it out the be that the 360 version is the ONLY one...and the BEST one!! just like that other idiot did in the other thred!!

So what if people wanna get teh PS3 version??? So what if the 360 version will have DLC....we don't even know what it'll be...a few extra missions..3 new cars and 5 new guns?? Give me a brake!!

The PC version will DESTROY the 360 version in any way!! So don't come out here and make pointless topics about stuff that clearly is not true!!

And when will that s@th stop??? Why do we always have to F@cking compare every single damn game that comes out???

You go and get your damn version of GTA4 on the system of your choice!!!!!!!!

Belive me kid, I will be more than happy with my copy of GTA4 PS3 version and I don't cry about DLC!!

If you guys get it than good for you!! I'm happy for you!!! But why come out here and post pointless idiotic stuff?? Go and play your f@cking game!!!!

NathanDrake

First, I'm 20.

Of course you will be happy with your PS3 version, you decided to make an account named after the protagonist of a PS3 exclusive game. And since when is something that cost a company $50,000,000 to secure idiotic? Apparently you are calling Microsoft and every one of its shareholders that said this was a great idea idiotic. And here's the kicker...a lot of them have more money than you and every previous generation of your family has made combined. Doesn't sound like those guys are idiots to me.

Well I wouldn't say GTA IV for the PS3 is usless, I think it'll be usless like 6 months after or when someone completed everything that needed to be done in the game. The definitive 360 version will continue to feed it's userbase with a warm meal of GTA IV exclusive episodic content, that's the size of San Andreas and Vice City. And it'll be extra tasty if Rockstar decided to at least give us one episode for free!

The PS3 only owners won't like it but...... The TC is absolutely correct when he or she states that the $$$$$ put up by MS for this content is indeed exclusive and those kind of $$$$$ seriously do the walkin part of the talkin part ! :D

Now as far as the PS3 version being useless - That is obviously overstated a bit.

[QUOTE="Udsen"]

Gears on PC was released a year after it's 360 counterpart. Halo 2 over two years after its Xbox counterpart. GTA IV will be released the same day on both consoles.

Both will sell, and while Rockstar will release DLC 3 months after release for the 360 version, I can bet they won't just ignore the PS3 owners... money is to be made, and DLC on 2 consoles is better than DLC on one.

subrosian

You're not getting it - Microsoft PAID ROCKSTAR for exclusivity here. Rockstar can't put anything on the PS3 version of the game that Microsoft doesn't want PS3 owners to get. So while 360 owners get an expansion, PS3 owners will get a bug fix. That's hardly fair - but MS is playing hardball.

The contracts are already signed, stamped, and dated - they stamped the contract in daemon blood, and signed post-script "screw you PS3 owners".

It's sad, I mean, it really is sad, but right now the situation is airtight. The TC is being a bit of a fanboy about it - I'm not rubbing it in faces, I could care less, but the reality is that if you're a GTA IV fan, you are not getting anything significant beyond what is on the retail release UNLESS you buy the 360 version.

That's seriously smart business on MS' part - it's downright mean, because people hate the idea of getting the gimp version.

They're getting some DLC content, not all of it.

Rockstar would be crazy and downright dumb to not release any DLC for PS3 owners. I'm not talking equal-to-or-better than 360 DLC, but new weapons, cars, or some other things.

[QUOTE="NathanDrake"]

You don't have to mention it....you just make it out the be that the 360 version is the ONLY one...and the BEST one!! just like that other idiot did in the other thred!!

So what if people wanna get teh PS3 version??? So what if the 360 version will have DLC....we don't even know what it'll be...a few extra missions..3 new cars and 5 new guns?? Give me a brake!!

The PC version will DESTROY the 360 version in any way!! So don't come out here and make pointless topics about stuff that clearly is not true!!

And when will that s@th stop??? Why do we always have to F@cking compare every single damn game that comes out???

You go and get your damn version of GTA4 on the system of your choice!!!!!!!!

Belive me kid, I will be more than happy with my copy of GTA4 PS3 version and I don't cry about DLC!!

If you guys get it than good for you!! I'm happy for you!!! But why come out here and post pointless idiotic stuff?? Go and play your f@cking game!!!!

TheSystemLord1

First, I'm 20.

Of course you will be happy with your PS3 version, you decided to make an account named after the protagonist of a PS3 exclusive game. And since when is something that cost a company $50,000,000 to secure idiotic? Apparently you are calling Microsoft and every one of its shareholders that said this was a great idea idiotic. And here's the kicker...a lot of them have more money than you and every previous generation of your family has made combined. Doesn't sound like those guys are idiots to me.

First, you don't know me and my family! So don't make that assumption that we never had as much! But you are right that I'm not rich! I'm only 23 so I can't be rich, yet!!! (working on it though ;) )

Than what kind of DLC will it be??? You expect to get a whole area as large as Vice City with teh graphics of GTA4????? There is no way for two reasons. One not every Xbox 360 user has a HDD or most that do have I don't think that they have enough space unless they delete some stuff they have. Second there is no way they can pull that off in a few months!!

Belive me when I say that it'll be a few extra missions...some new guns and cars. maybe some camos. But it won't be earth shaking. And even if it is...the PC version will have it and than some!!

In the end my point is that DON'T make out the 360 version to be the one and ONLY. It's not!!!!!

Where are people getting there sourses about DLC being the size of San Andreas? Is it another city or something?

I could see them doing something like they did with the Vice city nd liberity city stories.

I need to see a source or something.

[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="Udsen"]

Gears on PC was released a year after it's 360 counterpart. Halo 2 over two years after its Xbox counterpart. GTA IV will be released the same day on both consoles.

Both will sell, and while Rockstar will release DLC 3 months after release for the 360 version, I can bet they won't just ignore the PS3 owners... money is to be made, and DLC on 2 consoles is better than DLC on one.

Udsen

You're not getting it - Microsoft PAID ROCKSTAR for exclusivity here. Rockstar can't put anything on the PS3 version of the game that Microsoft doesn't want PS3 owners to get. So while 360 owners get an expansion, PS3 owners will get a bug fix. That's hardly fair - but MS is playing hardball.

The contracts are already signed, stamped, and dated - they stamped the contract in daemon blood, and signed post-script "screw you PS3 owners".

It's sad, I mean, it really is sad, but right now the situation is airtight. The TC is being a bit of a fanboy about it - I'm not rubbing it in faces, I could care less, but the reality is that if you're a GTA IV fan, you are not getting anything significant beyond what is on the retail release UNLESS you buy the 360 version.

That's seriously smart business on MS' part - it's downright mean, because people hate the idea of getting the gimp version.

They're getting some DLC content, not all of it.

Rockstar would be crazy and downright dumb to not release any DLC for PS3 owners. I'm not talking equal-to-or-better than 360 DLC, but new weapons, cars, or some other things.

First, you don't know me and my family! So don't make that assumption that we never had as much! But you are right that I'm not rich! I'm only 23 so I can't be rich, yet!!! (working on it though ;) )

Than what kind of DLC will it be??? You expect to get a whole area as large as Vice City with teh graphics of GTA4????? There is no way for two reasons. One not every Xbox 360 user has a HDD or most that do have I don't think that they have enough space unless they delete some stuff they have. Second there is no way they can pull that off in a few months!!

Belive me when I say that it'll be a few extra missions...some new guns and cars. maybe some camos. But it won't be earth shaking. And even if it is...the PC version will have it and than some!!

In the end my point is that DON'T make out the 360 version to be the one and ONLY. It's not!!!!!

NathanDrake

I barely assumed anything about your family. The shareholders of Microsoft who OK'd this decision really do have more money than 95% of the country they live in have made throughout the entire history of their family.

Secondly, you've gotta read my link for this. Microsoft said Vice City/San Andreas sized content. They directly addressed everyone who has been saying side missions and guns, dispelling those rumors.

Woah hold on the PS3 now has achievements? News to me...are they called achievements or accomplishemnts/entitlements/trophies

Where are people getting there sourses about DLC being the size of San Andreas? Is it another city or something?

I could see them doing something like they did with the Vice city nd liberity city stories.

I need to see a source or something.

hayato_

Original post, Microsoft held a blogger's breakfast for the press to come and ask questions. GTA4 DLC was brought up and what I put in the quotation box of my post is what Microsoft said about it.

[QUOTE="Udsen"][QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="Udsen"]

Gears on PC was released a year after it's 360 counterpart. Halo 2 over two years after its Xbox counterpart. GTA IV will be released the same day on both consoles.

Both will sell, and while Rockstar will release DLC 3 months after release for the 360 version, I can bet they won't just ignore the PS3 owners... money is to be made, and DLC on 2 consoles is better than DLC on one.

hungryheart077

You're not getting it - Microsoft PAID ROCKSTAR for exclusivity here. Rockstar can't put anything on the PS3 version of the game that Microsoft doesn't want PS3 owners to get. So while 360 owners get an expansion, PS3 owners will get a bug fix. That's hardly fair - but MS is playing hardball.

The contracts are already signed, stamped, and dated - they stamped the contract in daemon blood, and signed post-script "screw you PS3 owners".

It's sad, I mean, it really is sad, but right now the situation is airtight. The TC is being a bit of a fanboy about it - I'm not rubbing it in faces, I could care less, but the reality is that if you're a GTA IV fan, you are not getting anything significant beyond what is on the retail release UNLESS you buy the 360 version.

That's seriously smart business on MS' part - it's downright mean, because people hate the idea of getting the gimp version.

They're getting some DLC content, not all of it.

Rockstar would be crazy and downright dumb to not release any DLC for PS3 owners. I'm not talking equal-to-or-better than 360 DLC, but new weapons, cars, or some other things.

They paid for some exclusive DLC. Do you know what "some" means? Do you? Do you get it? Don't you get it? Come on, do you? I don't think you get it!!!!!

See what happens when you talk to someone like they're 5 years old?

Woah hold on the PS3 now has achievements? News to me...are they called achievements or accomplishemnts/entitlements/trophies

flowdee79

We are assuming that they will be trophies, and come out before GTA4. If they don't, then Rockstar will presumably hide the code for trophies and activate it via updating the game once Home is released.

Um just no. First of all there's no possible way the DLC could even be close to a full sequel like VC or SA. I doubt there's even going to be more land area. They won't want to use more than 1GB or so of HDD space (Core/Arcade won't even be able to get it). Face it lemmings all you're getting is a $15-20 mission pack 6 months later. I'll probably be long done with the game by then and move on to all the great exclusives coming out this year. I guess you lemmings do need the content since you won't have anything to do.

[QUOTE="hip-hop-cola2"]

it is better.... but the fact you pay for it ruins any big ownage IMO...

and gta4 is gonna be insane either way. what i want to know is will gamespot take the content into consideration

blackace

No difference then people paying $$ for extra content in Warhawk, for online mode in Virtual Fighter 5 and $39.99 for GT5 Prologue demo. You under estimate how many people are going to get this content, whether they have to pay for it or not.

that was just patronising :| i understand ps3 games also have DLC , that's not what im talking about, if you have to pay for the content then imo its not that big of a deal.

Um just no. First of all there's no possible way the DLC could even be close to a full sequel like VC or SA. I doubt there's even going to be more land area. They won't want to use more than 1GB or so of HDD space (Core/Arcade won't even be able to get it). Face it lemmings all you're getting is a $15-20 mission pack 6 months later. I'll probably be long done with the game by then and move on to all the great exclusives coming out this year. I guess you lemmings do need the content since you won't have anything to do.

Lazy_Boy88

:lol: And you would know what that feels like, wouldn't you? I didn't know MS were not releasing anymore games after GT4 comes out.

Um just no. First of all there's no possible way the DLC could even be close to a full sequel like VC or SA. I doubt there's even going to be more land area. They won't want to use more than 1GB or so of HDD space (Core/Arcade won't even be able to get it). Face it lemmings all you're getting is a $15-20 mission pack 6 months later. I'll probably be long done with the game by then and move on to all the great exclusives coming out this year. I guess you lemmings do need the content since you won't have anything to do.

Lazy_Boy88

What part of "confirmed by Microsoft" don't you understand?

[QUOTE="DarkCloud79"]I thought M& had lended the money to Rockstar?TheSystemLord1

No, they paid them. Not one analyst in the world will understand it until GTA4: Vice City (or its equal) comes to XBL.

Really? I find it hard to believe. I mean GTA is a HUGE series, and of course M& wants it to come out on they're system and be the better version, but the cost/benefit seems to be a little off.

I mean M& gains nothing on the actual game sales and, by they're mouth, they will be gaining zero with the DLC. So the actual gain M& has are the people that will be buying a 360 rather than a ps3 when gta comes out, and I don't know if the difference will be significal enough to be worth 50M.

Woah hold on the PS3 now has achievements? News to me...are they called achievements or accomplishemnts/entitlements/trophies

flowdee79

They are called acheivments and are exactly the same acheivments as on 360 versions of games. Take DMC4 for example

And they will be implemented into trophies when Home comes out. But they are still acheivments right now, and the same ones as 360

[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="Udsen"]

Gears on PC was released a year after it's 360 counterpart. Halo 2 over two years after its Xbox counterpart. GTA IV will be released the same day on both consoles.

Both will sell, and while Rockstar will release DLC 3 months after release for the 360 version, I can bet they won't just ignore the PS3 owners... money is to be made, and DLC on 2 consoles is better than DLC on one.

Udsen

You're not getting it - Microsoft PAID ROCKSTAR for exclusivity here. Rockstar can't put anything on the PS3 version of the game that Microsoft doesn't want PS3 owners to get. So while 360 owners get an expansion, PS3 owners will get a bug fix. That's hardly fair - but MS is playing hardball.

The contracts are already signed, stamped, and dated - they stamped the contract in daemon blood, and signed post-script "screw you PS3 owners".

It's sad, I mean, it really is sad, but right now the situation is airtight. The TC is being a bit of a fanboy about it - I'm not rubbing it in faces, I could care less, but the reality is that if you're a GTA IV fan, you are not getting anything significant beyond what is on the retail release UNLESS you buy the 360 version.

That's seriously smart business on MS' part - it's downright mean, because people hate the idea of getting the gimp version.

They're getting some DLC content, not all of it.

Rockstar would be crazy and downright dumb to not release any DLC for PS3 owners. I'm not talking equal-to-or-better than 360 DLC, but new weapons, cars, or some other things.

The largest things in the game (storage space wise) are assets. Meaning, creating a new city (yeah, an entirely new city), but recycling assets like textures, could allow Rockstar to produce something massive that would only take up a few hundred megabytes. Microsoft could easily have put their $50 million into adding an area say, 1/4 of the size of the land area of the retail game into the 360 DLC.

I'm not saying that's the case - I'm simply saying it is possible, and $50 million is certainly enough budget - and it is also *technically feasable* for them to do it as, say, a couple hundred megabyte download. Now, if that is true - getting a few extra cars on the PS3, versus getting those same extra cars, plus a new suburbs or downtown area or whatever to drive them in - that's pretty significant.

Now, obviously this will not make the PS3 version "useless" unless you're a diehard GTA fan - but the point the TC is botching (by focusing too much on the whole system war) is that there actually is reason for concern for PS3 owners. I mean, if you're a GTA IV fan, and it turns out the content on the 360 version is pretty solid, it would suck to miss out on it because you bought the PS3 version. If you have both systems, it seems MS is making the 360 one the version to go for.

dude...just give up, xbox 360 is going down, there is nothing you can do to bring it back up, i told you and all your fanboys that ps3 will start owning in 08 but you didnt think that and so now by saying gta 4 on ps3 sucks is just waste of time, its not going to effect the ps3.

its so obvious you made this thread to let down the ps3. but trust me its not.

alll the gta games were better on ps2 and they will stay better on ps3

I mean seriously, why even have it? I know this has been posted before, but people forget what has been said by Microsoft about what exactly it is they paid for:

Link

The entire Grand Theft Auto 4 retail game cost less than the amount of money Microsoft paid to finance and secure DLC for the 360 version.

MS paid $50,000,000...that is no small bit of change.

From their Blogger Breakfast, where people questioned Chris Satchell, Aaron Greenburg, and John Schappert:

[QUOTE="Microsoft"]

GTAIV DLC

• When MS says exclusive, they mean that no other system can have DLC content for GTAIV

• It will be bigger than a lot of people think. GTA3 Vice City and San Andreas were basically expansions of GTA3. Think of the DLC that way. We are talking major expansion for GTAIV
• No price has been discussed yet. It's up to Rockstar on whether or not they will charge for it
• If successful, DLC may be the new way to deliver GTA expansionsTheSystemLord1

wouldnt a full game be way to much to distribute online? those 2 points kinda dont make sense beside eachotehr. so your trying to say they will make the expansions that are like vice city and san andreas downloadable? wow good luck with that.

Lol, the cows are at major damage control mode.....bigevil_rashek

Alright so basically for the first like 8 months they're the same. Then who knows if Rockstar will release DIFFERENT DLC. I seriously doubt they'll leave the Sony GTA fans out in the cold. They've made most of their money in the past from PS2 games sales of GTA 3, Vice City, and San Andreas.Perception1

Microsoft paid the money, the major DLC stays on the 360 no matter what.

lol...M$ paid 50 million for DLC, and RockStar is STILL CONSIDERING developing future titles on PS3 only. At least, that is the rumor going around. Wow, RockStar must have major issues with M$ if this is true.

SO the 360 version of the game will suck too untill you get the dlc in august/september?

/thread

I think some fanboys are really getting ahead of themselves.

I'm used to Microsoft trying to charge me gamerpoints (or whatever the hell they're called) to buy stuff that can easily be found on the internet (like FAQs and guides you can find on gamefaqs).

I HIGHLY doubt that we will be given Vice City/San Andreas-esque size DLC free of charge, it just isn't happening. If it does, then I will admit ownage. However, when you have Microsoft trying to nickel and dime its consumers left and right with microtransactions galore, I don't believe they are just going to change overnight. It is bad enough that I have to pay $50 a year for live WITH advertisements.

Look at it this way, GTA IV for the 360 and PS3 are like Clubs/Bars. Both of them are in the same neighborhood they're just across the street from each other. On any given day both Club 360 and Club PS3 will have the same amount of people. And then one day Club 360 announces exclusive episodic content, meaning their club will have free drinks all night, more ladies, and treats everyone in the club like VIPs. And then you realize it will always be like these every night, and you have the choice if you want to get free drinks and dance with all kinds of girls.

Now in Club PS3, I guess the owner of that club didn't make a deal with the major or whoever, so they're not getting any exclusive episodic content. So even though both Club 360 and Club PS3 are in the same neighborhood just across from each other, Club 360 will be way more popular, and people who are cruising that street will be attracted to the exclusive free drinks all night and more girls episodic content.

[QUOTE="Perception1"]Alright so basically for the first like 8 months they're the same. Then who knows if Rockstar will release DIFFERENT DLC. I seriously doubt they'll leave the Sony GTA fans out in the cold. They've made most of their money in the past from PS2 games sales of GTA 3, Vice City, and San Andreas.TheSystemLord1

Microsoft paid the money, the major DLC stays on the 360 no matter what.

Did you not see me capitlize different. They obviously can't put the same content on the PS3 because that's obviously in the agreement, but what about different content.

There, I changed the topic title to something nobody can dispute whatsoever.TheSystemLord1

You could still word it better IMO. :P

I doubt a lot of people well be considering the expansion when they go out to buy GTA4. Yeah, the expansion does make the 360 version more desirable, but it won't stop people from buying the PS3 version.

[QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"]

[QUOTE="Perception1"]Alright so basically for the first like 8 months they're the same. Then who knows if Rockstar will release DIFFERENT DLC. I seriously doubt they'll leave the Sony GTA fans out in the cold. They've made most of their money in the past from PS2 games sales of GTA 3, Vice City, and San Andreas.Perception1

Microsoft paid the money, the major DLC stays on the 360 no matter what.

Did you not see me capitlize different. They obviously can't put the same content on the PS3 because that's obviously in the agreement, but what about different content.

Ah, I didn't see that my bad. Who knows what kind of DLC the PS3 will get.

[QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"]There, I changed the topic title to something nobody can dispute whatsoever.Lionheart08

You could still word it better IMO. :P

I doubt a lot of people well be considering the expansion when they go out to buy GTA4. Yeah, the expansion does make the 360 version more desirable, but it won't stop people from buying the PS3 version.

I make 1 fanboy post a year, I can't help myself :P

I didn't mention sales. I have no doubt the sales will be strong on both. I'm merely talking about the quality of experience here. The 360 version of Grand Theft Auto 4 will be the definitive version for those that want to play it. That's all I'm saying.

Just wait -Sniper99-

:D

Actually, if you remember to the beginnings of the game's life, Rockstar approached Sony with complete exclusivity and gave them a window to hammer out a contract. Sony did not make any financial moves to offset the cost of GTA4 so that year it went multi-plat. The rest as they say, is history.