GTA 4 has blurred textures, like the N64. DVD9 say you?

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#1 roadkill88
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Look at the walls on this latest pic. Blurred, obviously. Anyone remember the N64, where textures were blurred because everything had to be compressed to fit onto carts?

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#2 ithilgore2006
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On N64, everything was blurred, there's one wall in the backgound that looks a little blurry. You didn't think this out very well.
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#3 EntwineX
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Everything in that image looks a little blurry imo, why highlight just part of the wall.
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#4 roadkill88
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More blur. Look at the wall. Oh, and the general crappyness of the graphics.

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#5 therealmcc0y
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I hate when people say GTAIV graphics suck.

ITS A HUGE FREE ROAMING WORLD.

The walls are not going to have quality textures in this huge world, it would take up so much time, and be needless

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#6 omgimba
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I hate when people say GTAIV graphics suck.

ITS A HUGE FREE ROAMING WORLD.

The walls are not going to have quality textures in this huge world, it would take up so much time, and be needless

therealmcc0y

Crysis is also a huge free roaming world..

Yet fanboys only try too compare small claustrophbic games too it.

I say we should compare Crysis too GTA 4. Thats the most fair comparison too crysis there is.

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#7 Unkind223
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Just as long as the graphics are better as GTA: SA, i'm perfectly fine.
Frig, I would still play GTA: SA right now and not have a problem with its graphics. As far as i'm concerned, those graphics are beautiful!
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#8 Meu2k7
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Only the PC version can correct that, even then its stil likely to be there in some form ..
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#9 marklarmer
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whatever helps you sleep at night.

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#10 Truth_Hurts_U
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Look at the walls on this latest pic. Blurred, obviously. Anyone remember the N64, where textures were blurred because everything had to be compressed to fit onto carts?

roadkill88

N64 graphics are blurred because the games of the time where all like that. Look at any 3D PC game of the era and look at ones of today. If you can't see the difference... Then you my friend need help.

Space has nothing to do with Texture quality... When a GPU, CPU and RAM can only do so much.

Let this die.

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#11 ragek1ll589
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Won't stop me from buying it
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#12 ChinoJamesKeene
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GTA has always had cruddy graphics, but that wall could just be filtering. It probably scales in detail depending on how close you are to the surface like most games do now.
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#13 supras989
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More blur. Look at the wall. Oh, and the general crappyness of the graphics.

roadkill88
only the most misinformed fools would judge grand theft auto for its graphics.......
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#14 therealmcc0y
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[QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

I hate when people say GTAIV graphics suck.

ITS A HUGE FREE ROAMING WORLD.

The walls are not going to have quality textures in this huge world, it would take up so much time, and be needless

omgimba

Crysis is also a huge free roaming world..

Yet fanboys only try too compare small claustrophbic games too it.

I say we should compare Crysis too GTA 4. Thats the most fair comparison too crysis there is.

Crysis is a PC game, top tier PC games are always a few years ahead of consoles

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#15 HeliumFear
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Holy crap! There's a slight blur that's almost noticeable! :| Freaking rediculous! I mean,my eyes are bleeding. I can't believe Rockstar can't make anything but crap graphics. This is sub-Dreamcast crap! (*)Rockstar's never getting another dime out of me!

(*The only part of the above that's not sarcasm.)

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#16 JPOBS
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oh noes, teh walls in teh background are blurred!

blu ray am NEEDED.

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#17 radoman
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Blaming DVD9 is pure ignorance. Texture quality depends much more on available video memory and memory bandwidth, which the 360 has the ps3 beat.

The N64 would have had much sharper textures if the size wasnt limited to 4k per texture, a memory limitation not so much a storage limitation.

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#18 PAL360
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More blur. Look at the wall. Oh, and the general crappyness of the graphics.

roadkill88

looks great to me!

you dont need to buy the game boy!!!

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#19 ToScA-
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whatever helps you sleep at night.

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Ownage approved.

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#20 pro-nathan-07
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whatever helps you sleep at night.

marklarmer
some nice ownage there.
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#21 drufeous
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Pathetic. I can't believe how many of you run around games looking for blur in walls and jaggies on a tree branch. Get a life.

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#23 heretrix
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On N64, everything was blurred, there's one wall in the backgound that looks a little blurry. You didn't think this out very well.ithilgore2006

You are correct..You have to consider the source.Using a screenshot to make a point isn't anywhere near thinking.

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#24 3picuri3
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man, its funny how low cows will stoop. they're all up in arms about the great extra DLC for the 360 so they decide to just attack the game - it's like the little whining child that says he hates something just because he can't have it. :P
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#25 flowdee79
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Wow, this arguement almost makes me embarassed to even be part of System Wars
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#26 Arjdagr8
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the game looks great, cod4 is blurred textures but still looks great. what a pathetic attempt
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#27 killab2oo5
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:| That's not even a good pic...and why does everyone TRY to blame this on DVD's and 360 after Rockstar have stated about 2 or 3 times that the PS3 has been more of a problem for them?
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#28 Chipp
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Look at the walls on this latest pic. Blurred, obviously. Anyone remember the N64, where textures were blurred because everything had to be compressed to fit onto carts?roadkill88

No textures are blurry because of RAM limitations. This is why N64 had a expansion pack(4MB) that allowed sharper textures, resolution and bigger worlds. The cartridge was a limitation yes, but it wasn't the cause of blurry textures. N64 hardware was very very limited when it came to the texture department. So basically, GTA has blurry textures for a couple reasons. The first being the game takes place in a huge world so there has to be some compromises and the second being the ram limitations of the PS3 and 360.

Reading your topic name suggested that you think this is the fault of dvd9 hence blu ray would of remedied the problem. This is incorrect, blu ray only can provide capacity not a RAM increase and in many respects the 360 could probably have sharper textures due to the 512mb unified ram vs the PS3 256mb of video card ram. So it could possibly be a limitation of the PS3 imposed on the 360 in order to keep the builds looking similar.

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#29 gtawoof
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who cares? its GRAND THEFT AUTO, anybody who loves the series and has actually played all of them for a long time shouldnt care about graphics, obviously you dont want them to be PS2-like, but they're definately next-gen. They look perfectly fine considering the vast amount of detail in the game, gameplay-wise and in the map.
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#30 PDark_Prodigy
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True GTA 4 fans could care less of the graphics take GTA2 for example that was an insane amount of fun. GTA is and never has been about graphics. And the crysis comparison is irrelevant I mean Crysis took Crysis was the collaboration of Crytek, intel, and nvidia and utilizes top of the line hardware not available to this gen consoles.
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#31 Ragashahs
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[QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

I hate when people say GTAIV graphics suck.

ITS A HUGE FREE ROAMING WORLD.

The walls are not going to have quality textures in this huge world, it would take up so much time, and be needless

omgimba

Crysis is also a huge free roaming world..

Yet fanboys only try too compare small claustrophbic games too it.

I say we should compare Crysis too GTA 4. Thats the most fair comparison too crysis there is.

Crysis had more ram and gpu power to work worth. ps3 and 360 only have what 512mbs of ram so obvioulsy they have less textures especially considering it's a sandbox game. you can't compare PC games and console games like this two completely different types of technology. GTA4 is pretty impressive considering what is has to work with
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#32 Corvin
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Some blurry textures!? ****. Guess its time to cancel by pre-order.
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#33 Senor_Kami
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I'm not refering to anyone in this thread, because the MODs will send me to the corner like its pre-school, but I will say this. Its not impossible for people who complain about things like this to be total and complete losers. While i'm not saying that they are, i'm merely stating that its not impossible or unlikely.
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#34 DrOleg
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who in the world is going to recognize this during gameplay?? you guys should go and play crysis, i prefer the game with the better overall experience (by miles)
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#35 saolin323
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Yes, PS3 fits less in its far less than 360 ram indeed, if the game was 360 only, textures would be 10x more crisp indeed, i agree
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#36 Son_of_Some
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[QUOTE="roadkill88"]

More blur. Look at the wall. Oh, and the general crappyness of the graphics.

supras989

only the most misinformed fools would judge ANY GAME for its graphics.......

Thear. Fixordz.

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#37 ChiddaPotta
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omg whats the big bash because of the textures! holy crap, Its a DAMN GTA GAME! graphics isnt the main thing about the game. Hell, i still play SA and i think it has AWESOME graphics for a GTA game. blurr textures my a**.
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#38 Always-Honest
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ram anybody?
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#39 Lonelynight
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Yes, PS3 fits less in its far less than 360 ram indeed, if the game was 360 only, textures would be 10x more crisp indeed, i agreesaolin323

You mean like Fable?

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#40 -wii60-
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whatever helps you sleep at night.

marklarmer


thats some nice ownage there.. bu bu the blu ray.
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#41 Cheazie
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Even though im not a fan of the the new GTA franchise *I Love the old ones like GTA1,2,London* I will say this. GTA is as much about graphics as 50 cent is about stopping gun violence or Paris Hilton is about good clean living and how to have respect for yourself.

GTA is not about graphics.

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#42 Cedmln
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No. Its graphics are fantastic.
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#43 skrat_01
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Its called a compressed jpeg image TC :|
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.....OK,Nevertheless,ill sleep well tonight.
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#45 trasherhead
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[QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

I hate when people say GTAIV graphics suck.

ITS A HUGE FREE ROAMING WORLD.

The walls are not going to have quality textures in this huge world, it would take up so much time, and be needless

omgimba

Crysis is also a huge free roaming world..

Yet fanboys only try too compare small claustrophbic games too it.

I say we should compare Crysis too GTA 4. Thats the most fair comparison too crysis there is.

No. Crysis loads up levels. GTA loads up the entier city for you so you don't have to load ingame... EVER.

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#46 sambalimbo
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don't blame GTAIV for their graphics, blame R* for being a money loving slut and prostituting themselves to the 360 / Microsoft
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#47 Velocitas8
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Its called a compressed jpeg image TC :|skrat_01

lol, no kidding.

How are we supposed to accurately judge a screenshot that's been downsized by 50% and compressed to hell with a horribly lossy image compression format? The amount of artifacting in that screenshot is obscene.

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#48 Khansoul
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Its a huge free roaming and I believe non loading world something has to give guys. I cannot believe anyone while playing this will be walking around looking for bad textures seems like a waste of time to me. I am just looking forward to a really cool game. I can point you to some awful textures go load up WOW. I think we know how much the texture work has caused that game to fail...........
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#49 Always-Honest
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Some people abuse their mod priveligesCedmln

they can be a bit over enthousiastic sometimes...

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#50 vash47
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[QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

I hate when people say GTAIV graphics suck.

ITS A HUGE FREE ROAMING WORLD.

The walls are not going to have quality textures in this huge world, it would take up so much time, and be needless

omgimba

Crysis is also a huge free roaming world..

Yet fanboys only try too compare small claustrophbic games too it.

I say we should compare Crysis too GTA 4. Thats the most fair comparison too crysis there is.

Don't be silly, Crysis is not a free roaming world, it's made of levels you know? And it isn't fair comparing a Jungle to an Urban setting, where there are pedestrians, houses, billboards, and all things you can imagine. Besides GTA IV has no loading times.