GTA 4 has blurred textures, like the N64. DVD9 say you?

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#101 thegoldenpoo
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[QUOTE="marklarmer"]

whatever helps you sleep at night.

ToScA-

Ownage approved.

lol, good one. horrible textures

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#102 mccoyca112
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Yes, PS3 fits less in its far less than 360 ram indeed, if the game was 360 only, textures would be 10x more crisp indeed, i agreesaolin323

No way, your not banned anymore? lol

or is this an old topic lol

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#103 lawlessx
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yes lets blame EVERYTHING on DVD9 shall we :roll:
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#104 Spybot_9
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No DVD9 has nothing to do with that.:lol:

It's the GARBAGE 512MB RAM that is to blame.Your consoles are just too underpowered,get over it already console fanboys.

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#105 Articuno76
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The TC actually points out where this should-be obvious blurryness is. Epic fail.

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#106 Crunchman
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We need more vector graphics.
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#107 Articuno76
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[QUOTE="trasherhead"][QUOTE="omgimba"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

I hate when people say GTAIV graphics suck.

ITS A HUGE FREE ROAMING WORLD.

The walls are not going to have quality textures in this huge world, it would take up so much time, and be needless

OPRFWrestler112

Crysis is also a huge free roaming world..

Yet fanboys only try too compare small claustrophbic games too it.

I say we should compare Crysis too GTA 4. Thats the most fair comparison too crysis there is.

No. Crysis loads up levels. GTA loads up the entier city for you so you don't have to load ingame... EVER.

I'd be willing to bet that one crysis level is at least half as big as the GTA world. I am proabably wrong though.

Anyways, look at Oblivion. That game had a humongous game world and for the time, the graphics were top notch. GTA, however big it is, has never had good graphics for their time.

The scale of number of characters/vehicales and such on screen is considerably smaller in both Crysis and Oblivion. Sure they look good and appear to be in large areas, but the scope of those areas allows a lot of cheating in that what is obscured doens't have to be drawn, whether it be too far away to see without the aid of a scope or simply not on camera.

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#109 parksits
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no one said gta4 graphics were the be all and end all of games graphics....and pardon me but why do you care about a wall in the background?!?! I was playing an old pokemon game on my gameboy colour the other day, it was pretty fun, graphics are great but i seriously doubt you will be focusing more on a random wall in the background then the people who are talking right in front of you! what ever happened to watching the story progress. does everyone pause their games these days and analize the graphics?
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#110 BioShockOwnz
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I stare at random walls in videogames, As you can tell, my life is sooo awesome. *goes to stare at blurry walls*
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#112 noswear
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[QUOTE="marklarmer"]

whatever helps you sleep at night.

ToScA-

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#113 noswear
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[QUOTE="Spybot_9"]

No DVD9 has nothing to do with that.:lol:

It's the GARBAGE 512MB RAM that is to blame.Your consoles are just too underpowered,get over it already console fanboys.

RotaryRX7

Everyone listen to this person. They play PC games, they must be better than all of us. :roll:

*cough* troll *cough*

wow, i guess i couldn't say the same for cows, sheep and lemmings. :roll:

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#114 thegoldenpoo
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[QUOTE="ToScA-"][QUOTE="marklarmer"]

whatever helps you sleep at night.

noswear

Ownage approved.

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#115 ChinoJamesKeene
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Grand Theft Auto has always had blurry graphics, but GTA4 has stylised graphics that look pretty good all round. These picture are not even a good indicator of texture quality, the wall could just be heavily filtered at the draw distance.

It not even close to the N64 blur, have you even played an N64...

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#116 Quofan
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Look at the walls on this latest pic. Blurred, obviously. Anyone remember the N64, where textures were blurred because everything had to be compressed to fit onto carts?

roadkill88

Wow, the game must suck then. Back to the drawing board Take Two.

Seriously, who cares if it had to be compressed and what difference will that make? So long as the games dont suffer, which they clearly arent.

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#117 Quofan
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[QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]

I hate when people say GTAIV graphics suck.

ITS A HUGE FREE ROAMING WORLD.

The walls are not going to have quality textures in this huge world, it would take up so much time, and be needless

omgimba

Crysis is also a huge free roaming world..

Yet fanboys only try too compare small claustrophbic games too it.

I say we should compare Crysis too GTA 4. Thats the most fair comparison too crysis there is.

What I dont understand is why anyone even gives a crap. So long as it doesnt burn your eyes like having acid sprayed in your face, and only early 3D games like the first MGS or Resident Evil (bar the CGI) or some 8 bit games do that

Why do people on this forum consistently act like one tiny fragment of blurred texture makes any difference? Or that by pointing out one little graphical difference, the console war or even system war has somehow been won? None of it realistically makes a shred of difference.

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#118 doobie1975
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[QUOTE="roadkill88"]

Look at the walls on this latest pic. Blurred, obviously. Anyone remember the N64, where textures were blurred because everything had to be compressed to fit onto carts?

Quofan

Wow, the game must suck then. Back to the drawing board Take Two.

Seriously, who cares if it had to be compressed and what difference will that make? So long as the games dont suffer, which they clearly arent.

if a camera focuses on the near ground the far ground is out of focus, its called depth of field.

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#119 rolo107
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I'm pretty sure the blur is part of the art style...
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#120 Adrian_Cloud
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[QUOTE="noswear"][QUOTE="ToScA-"][QUOTE="marklarmer"]

whatever helps you sleep at night.

thegoldenpoo

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One bad screeshot from IGN. Doesn't prove anything. Metal Gear Solid 4 is a highly detailed game, and does not have blurred textures check the preview from gamespy.

"Visually, there's little doubt that MGS4 is one of the most handsome games yet for this generation of hardware. There's still a little aliasing on certain textures, but nothing that won't get a final clean-up before the game hits gold. The cut-scenes look marvelous. Character details such as eye movement (which many HD-era games get wrong) rival the likes of the Half-Life games for realism; Snake, Otacon, and Meryl all have the same sort of liveliness that Alyx and Eli Vance demonstrated. The attention to detail in the characters is so precise you can see the marks on Otacon's face where he shaves. "

And from Gamepro:

"The graphics: You thought Gears of War looked amazing? Think again. Metal Gear Solid 4 will blow you away with its ultra-detailed characters and intricate environments, painting some of the most gorgeous graphics seen this side of Crysis. In motion, the graphics look so realistic that your eyes begin to register the visuals as a movie rather than a game. From what we saw, MGS4 puts its 50GB Blu-ray disc to outstanding use."

OWnage Denied.

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#121 shearMario
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|I don't play GTA for graphics I play it because it has better gameplay than most games.
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#122 Always-Honest
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so you won't buy it... ? good for you
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#123 -CheeseEater-
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whatever helps you sleep at night.

marklarmer
Pwned!
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#124 dragon_master11
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DAMN YOU BLURRY WALLS!! Because of you I won't be able to enjoy GTA IV.

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#126 shearMario
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DAMN YOU BLURRY WALLS!! Because of you I won't be able to enjoy GTA IV.

dragon_master11

The OP has ruined it for us all by spotting these flaws!

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#127 sakura_Ex
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[QUOTE="marklarmer"]

whatever helps you sleep at night.

pro-nathan-07

some nice ownage there.

If that looks bad the the background textures in Mass Effect are 10 times worse.

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#128 -Wheels-
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Ok, let me straighten this out for you. It's called "Mip mapping". It makes the textures farther away from camera switch to smaller resolution texture copies so that texles don't seem like they are swimming around. Yes, texel is a word. And the N64 textures were blurry because they were only 128 x 128 texture maps at the very most in any game.
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#129 sakura_Ex
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Wow that pic AgentH posted of Vamp looks crazy.
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#130 meetroid8
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You'd be hard pressed to say that GTA4 looks like an N64 game.
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#131 Arjdagr8
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That's from last september(latest footage), the MGS4 old build. Wait till the final build comes out when the game releases, until then PS3 haters and Xbots STFU!

AgentH

WTH IS WRONG WITH YOU! that freaking scared me!

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#132 AgentH
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[QUOTE="AgentH"]

That's from last september(latest footage), the MGS4 old build. Wait till the final build comes out when the game releases, until then PS3 haters and Xbots STFU!

Arjdagr8

WTH IS WRONG WITH YOU! that freaking scared me!

ok. now calm down man. lol

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#133 Arjdagr8
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[QUOTE="Arjdagr8"][QUOTE="AgentH"]

That's from last september(latest footage), the MGS4 old build. Wait till the final build comes out when the game releases, until then PS3 haters and Xbots STFU!

AgentH

WTH IS WRONG WITH YOU! that freaking scared me!

ok. now calm down man. lol

actually im even more angry now because the stupid konami site still wont let me sign up for a freaking id, its a joke i tell you.

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#134 doobie1975
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[QUOTE="AgentH"][QUOTE="Arjdagr8"][QUOTE="AgentH"]

That's from last september(latest footage), the MGS4 old build. Wait till the final build comes out when the game releases, until then PS3 haters and Xbots STFU!

Arjdagr8

WTH IS WRONG WITH YOU! that freaking scared me!

ok. now calm down man. lol

actually im even more angry now because the stupid konami site still wont let me sign up for a freaking id, its a joke i tell you.

ive been trying all day to, this beta has disaster writen all over it. shame cos the game look ****ing great

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#135 navyguy21
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[QUOTE="marklarmer"]

whatever helps you sleep at night.

ToScA-

Ownage approved.

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#136 Jipset
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That's from last september(latest footage), the MGS4 old build. Wait till the final build comes out when the game releases, until then PS3 haters and Xbots STFU!

AgentH

I hate how I've destroyed this guy twice and he's still alive. :x

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#137 noswear
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[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="noswear"][QUOTE="ToScA-"][QUOTE="marklarmer"]

whatever helps you sleep at night.

Adrian_Cloud

Ownage approved.

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Ownage approved, stamped, sent, ratified by the board, returned, re-sent, laughed at by 50% of the internet and then finally put on display at the natural history museum to be apreciated by future generations


One bad screeshot from IGN. Doesn't prove anything. Metal Gear Solid 4 is a highly detailed game, and does not have blurred textures check the preview from gamespy.

"Visually, there's little doubt that MGS4 is one of the most handsome games yet for this generation of hardware. There's still a little aliasing on certain textures, but nothing that won't get a final clean-up before the game hits gold. The cut-scenes look marvelous. Character details such as eye movement (which many HD-era games get wrong) rival the likes of the Half-Life games for realism; Snake, Otacon, and Meryl all have the same sort of liveliness that Alyx and Eli Vance demonstrated. The attention to detail in the characters is so precise you can see the marks on Otacon's face where he shaves. "

And from Gamepro:

"The graphics: You thought Gears of War looked amazing? Think again. Metal Gear Solid 4 will blow you away with its ultra-detailed characters and intricate environments, painting some of the most gorgeous graphics seen this side of Crysis. In motion, the graphics look so realistic that your eyes begin to register the visuals as a movie rather than a game. From what we saw, MGS4 puts its 50GB Blu-ray disc to outstanding use."

OWnage Denied.

ownage restamped and resubmited. pending further development. by the way, the game ended up looking fine. (gtaiv that is)

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#138 Patriot298
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I'm sick of seeing these kinds of dumb threads!! Crysis was made on a DVD9 and it out did everything in the visual department so it has NOTHING TO DO WITH DVD9. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#139 SpruceCaboose
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And it also has some pretty bad pop-in in spots. Still a top tier game, and one of the best games I have ever played.
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#140 Always-Honest
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lol, this guy actually thinks a storage medium is the fault of blurry textures....
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#141 Malta_1980
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blurred textures or not, GTAIV is a blast.... i love the game and the city is so detailed and huge.... Unfortunately you cant have everything in life, and if the small price to pay for a game such as GTAIV is having blurred textures in certain areas, then its a price i and many others are willing to pay...

Also MGSIV can have all the blurred textures in the world am sure i'm gonna love that game...

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#142 -hells-
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Yes, PS3 fits less in its far less than 360 ram indeed, if the game was 360 only, textures would be 10x more crisp indeed, i agreesaolin323

Ah crap you are back man system wars was soooooo better without your fable rant

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#143 clintos59
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GTA games aint never been about graphics. Anyone who has played the series would know this. I think GTA4 looks great, but one thing I do hear though is that it is actually smaller then san andreas if I am not correct, just has alot more things to do. I havent played it but I have my copy and will start playing it when my MGO beta expires tomorrow. :)
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#144 Danm_999
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OP killed his credibility when he blamed blurred textures on the storage format.

Just shows a staggering ignorance of basic programming.