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Initially I was pretty disappointed but after playing it agian I understand why it got the 10's from every site. Instead of trying to out do Crackdown, Saints Row, or even their own San Andros, they instead reinvented the wheel agian similar to Vice City and the GTA 3 series. GTA 4 just simply changes how we view sandbox games and puts in the middle of something very linier like Mafia for the PC and something very open world like GTA and spun it with a more realistic tone. What you get is essentially a game version of The Godfather (and not that EA game thats different) Where it's more of a crime drama then anything else. You get seriosly involved with the characters in the game by going out on dates with them or hanging out. This may seem a little gimmicky at first but once you hit the point where you have to choose who lives or dies, it makes those decisions very tough because you know both of these characters really well and somethimes you wish there was another way. I'll be honost that I drove for 30 minutes at the end of the game just thinking which choice I wanted to make, and thinking about it really hard, and no game has really done that to the very extent of GTA where you feel as these choices have very big impact on whats going to happen next. Simply put if you were looking for a sandboxy kinda wacky fun game, you were looking in the wrong direction. GTA 4 is simply Rockstars reply saying "We don't outdo our compitition, we just change the playing field." And by doing this they made their game simply timeless.
Anyone can put more features or more options or more cars, guns, explosions, ect. ect. in their free roaming game than GTA 4, but it takes real talent and real skill to out do GTA 4's characters, story, execution, and dialog. In doing that, it means that GTA 4 is not fantastic because it puts more stuff then the next guy, it does more to games and how games are shown then the next guy, and for that it will become one of the greatest games of all time.
For the people that feel that GTA 4 is not good because it doesn't have that wacky fun flavor, all i have to say is that you aren't sophisticated enough to appreciate what it does. And that is prefectly fine, but for me and I think a lot of reviewers, it more than explosions, guns, millitary vehicles that makes a fantastic action adventure as GTA 4.
insanejedi
Ding Ding, we have a winner. Pretty much summed up how I feel about the whole thing.
The thought the game was absolutely fantastic, and easily my GOTY. I really dont understand the hate for this game.Cali3350
Its popular. We as a generation love putting things on pedestals only to take joy in knocking them down. And not just in gaming. In just about everything.
I love GTA IV. The story, the graphics, and the gameplay all went together so well. It was far from disappointing. My only problem was that the friends calling you was really annoying.II-FBIsniper-II
You can turn that off.
GTA4 is no where near the biggest disappointment.
Biggest disappointment would have to go to Too Human. Perhaps the biggest disappointment of the century.
[QUOTE="insanejedi"]Initially I was pretty disappointed but after playing it agian I understand why it got the 10's from every site. Instead of trying to out do Crackdown, Saints Row, or even their own San Andros, they instead reinvented the wheel agian similar to Vice City and the GTA 3 series. GTA 4 just simply changes how we view sandbox games and puts in the middle of something very linier like Mafia for the PC and something very open world like GTA and spun it with a more realistic tone. What you get is essentially a game version of The Godfather (and not that EA game thats different) Where it's more of a crime drama then anything else. You get seriosly involved with the characters in the game by going out on dates with them or hanging out. This may seem a little gimmicky at first but once you hit the point where you have to choose who lives or dies, it makes those decisions very tough because you know both of these characters really well and somethimes you wish there was another way. I'll be honost that I drove for 30 minutes at the end of the game just thinking which choice I wanted to make, and thinking about it really hard, and no game has really done that to the very extent of GTA where you feel as these choices have very big impact on whats going to happen next. Simply put if you were looking for a sandboxy kinda wacky fun game, you were looking in the wrong direction. GTA 4 is simply Rockstars reply saying "We don't outdo our compitition, we just change the playing field." And by doing this they made their game simply timeless.
Anyone can put more features or more options or more cars, guns, explosions, ect. ect. in their free roaming game than GTA 4, but it takes real talent and real skill to out do GTA 4's characters, story, execution, and dialog. In doing that, it means that GTA 4 is not fantastic because it puts more stuff then the next guy, it does more to games and how games are shown then the next guy, and for that it will become one of the greatest games of all time.
For the people that feel that GTA 4 is not good because it doesn't have that wacky fun flavor, all i have to say is that you aren't sophisticated enough to appreciate what it does. And that is prefectly fine, but for me and I think a lot of reviewers, it more than explosions, guns, millitary vehicles that makes a fantastic action adventure as GTA 4.
z_gaming_master
Ding Ding, we have a winner. Pretty much summed up how I feel about the whole thing.
Well TBH, at first i was touched by Nikos humanity, then you go around killing innocent cops in the middle of missions and killing big mobsters for no reason whatsoever and made me realise that he isnt as good of a character i thought he wasI love GTA IV. The story, the graphics, and the gameplay all went together so well. It was far from disappointing. My only problem was that the friends calling you was really annoying.II-FBIsniper-II
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[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]I love GTA IV. The story, the graphics, and the gameplay all went together so well. It was far from disappointing. My only problem was that the friends calling you was really annoying.Tjeremiah1988
Want to go bowling?
No Michelle! :x[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]No, that award goes to MGS4, SSBB, and Haze.Giancar
change MGS4 with Too Human
And change SSBB with Mario Kart. SSBB delivered.[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]No, that award goes to MGS4, SSBB, and Haze.VendettaRed07
take out mgs4 and you have a winnerrr
no, leave it there. The game got a 10 and is beatable in 14hrs. All I could of done was go on YT and watch all the vid in the game because most of my time I was watching then actually playing the game.
am i the only one here who absolutely loves the online in gta? Its soo awesome! and the euphoria physics just make everything seem like more believable like im really running around the streets of new york in a gang fight or somethingVendettaRed07
nope! i love it too. And GTA4 and MGS4 have been the most satisfying games for me this gen. So absolutely no disappointment here.
am i the only one here who absolutely loves the online in gta? Its soo awesome! and the euphoria physics just make everything seem like more believable like im really running around the streets of new york in a gang fight or somethingVendettaRed07
yea its fun but i hate when people set it to the entire map because most just stay on one side. Also I wish R* can update to allow at least 32 players online.
[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]No, that award goes to MGS4, SSBB, and Haze.Tjeremiah1988
take out mgs4 and you have a winnerrr
no, leave it there. The game got a 10 and is beatable in 4hrs. All I could of done was go on YT and watch all the vid in the game because most of my time I was watching then actually playing the game.
the game took me 21 hours :|[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="VendettaRed07"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]No, that award goes to MGS4, SSBB, and Haze.nintendo-4life
take out mgs4 and you have a winnerrr
no, leave it there. The game got a 10 and is beatable in 4hrs. All I could of done was go on YT and watch all the vid in the game because most of my time I was watching then actually playing the game.
the game took me 21 hours :|swy, meant 14
[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]No, that award goes to MGS4, SSBB, and Haze.Giancar
change MGS4 with Too Human
Nope, MGS4 is without a doubt the most overrated game of all time.
[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]No, that award goes to MGS4, SSBB, and Haze.Juggernaut140
change MGS4 with Too Human
Nope, MGS4 (you must mean halo) is without a doubt the most overrated game of all time.
I think he must mean Halo ;)
[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]No, that award goes to MGS4, SSBB, and Haze.Giancar
change MGS4 with Too Human
Brawl is no where near as bad a haze/too human.the difference being that brawl is still a great game.
GTA IV is overrated, but not as badly as SSBB was. SSBB is a 7.5-8.0 max, at least for me.Jack_Bauer07SSBB is one of those games that doesn't force you to see it's greatness. i guess that's why it's easy to think it's overrated.
[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]No, that award goes to MGS4, SSBB, and Haze.Tjeremiah1988
take out mgs4 and you have a winnerrr
no, leave it there. The game got a 10 and is beatable in 14hrs. All I could of done was go on YT and watch all the vid in the game because most of my time I was watching then actually playing the game.
it took me 22 hours, and no lie-
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when i thought snake shot himself at the end, a tear ran down my faced, and im not ashamed to admit it
[QUOTE="nerds_return"][QUOTE="Led_poison"]10.0 says noLed_poison
if you are not a fanboy, i dont know who is.
I'm sorry, that game deserved its 10.0, just because you could not have as much fun in the world as say GTA:SA does not make it a bad game. Rockstar did a great job of presenting, laying out a deep world with a great, humorous storyline filled with lots of satire.
If it's not as good as the game before it then it definently means it doesn't deserve a 10 as it doesn't move the series forward but backwards.
[QUOTE="Jack_Bauer07"]GTA IV is overrated, but not as badly as SSBB was. SSBB is a 7.5-8.0 max, at least for me.nintendo-4lifeSSBB is one of those games that doesn't force you to see it's greatness. i guess that's why it's easy to think it's overrated.
That story mode was terrible. It was a joke that they even incorporated that in there. It should've been the same old with new characters and maps.
SSBB is one of those games that doesn't force you to see it's greatness. i guess that's why it's easy to think it's overrated.[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Jack_Bauer07"]GTA IV is overrated, but not as badly as SSBB was. SSBB is a 7.5-8.0 max, at least for me.dukebd699
That story mode was terrible. It was a joke that they even incorporated that in there. It should've been the same old with new characters and maps.
IDK about you....people who bought brawl sure as hell didn't but it for it's single player mode.SSBB is one of those games that doesn't force you to see it's greatness. i guess that's why it's easy to think it's overrated.[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Jack_Bauer07"]GTA IV is overrated, but not as badly as SSBB was. SSBB is a 7.5-8.0 max, at least for me.dukebd699
That story mode was terrible. It was a joke that they even incorporated that in there. It should've been the same old with new characters and maps.
............... It's a multiplayer focused game :|in that case games like halo should also be scored in the 7.0-8.5area.
[QUOTE="dukebd699"]SSBB is one of those games that doesn't force you to see it's greatness. i guess that's why it's easy to think it's overrated.[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Jack_Bauer07"]GTA IV is overrated, but not as badly as SSBB was. SSBB is a 7.5-8.0 max, at least for me.nintendo-4life
That story mode was terrible. It was a joke that they even incorporated that in there. It should've been the same old with new characters and maps.
............... It's a multiplayer focused game :|in that case games like halo should also be scored in the 7.0-8.5area.
Rember that Halo 1 did not have online multiplayer? What the hell were the people giving out 9.7 thinking at that time then?
[QUOTE="dukebd699"]SSBB is one of those games that doesn't force you to see it's greatness. i guess that's why it's easy to think it's overrated.[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Jack_Bauer07"]GTA IV is overrated, but not as badly as SSBB was. SSBB is a 7.5-8.0 max, at least for me.Shinobishyguy
That story mode was terrible. It was a joke that they even incorporated that in there. It should've been the same old with new characters and maps.
IDK about you....people who bought brawl sure as hell didn't but it for it's single player mode.yeah ive never understood as to why people use that as a reason as to why they didnt like brawl, its like saying you hate metal gear solid 4 because you dont like metal gear online
[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="dukebd699"]SSBB is one of those games that doesn't force you to see it's greatness. i guess that's why it's easy to think it's overrated.[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Jack_Bauer07"]GTA IV is overrated, but not as badly as SSBB was. SSBB is a 7.5-8.0 max, at least for me.insanejedi
That story mode was terrible. It was a joke that they even incorporated that in there. It should've been the same old with new characters and maps.
............... It's a multiplayer focused game :|in that case games like halo should also be scored in the 7.0-8.5area.
Rember that Halo 1 did not have online multiplayer? What the hell were the people giving out 9.7 thinking at that time then?
maybe you dont remember how revolutionary halo really was then.
and its single player was awesome, and you could link it up to 4 other xboxs for 16 players
[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="dukebd699"]SSBB is one of those games that doesn't force you to see it's greatness. i guess that's why it's easy to think it's overrated.[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Jack_Bauer07"]GTA IV is overrated, but not as badly as SSBB was. SSBB is a 7.5-8.0 max, at least for me.insanejedi
That story mode was terrible. It was a joke that they even incorporated that in there. It should've been the same old with new characters and maps.
............... It's a multiplayer focused game :|in that case games like halo should also be scored in the 7.0-8.5area.
Rember that Halo 1 did not have online multiplayer? What the hell were the people giving out 9.7 thinking at that time then?
did i say online multiplayer? :|Halo 3 was a pretty dissapointing game.
Even Halo die hard fans are saying it's not as good as it should be. Such a shame, seems like MS rushed Bungie to get the game out so that sales of 360 will rise.
No, no, and no. That definitely goes to Spore. Nothing even comes close to the amount of failed promises in Spore. When you hype it as the best game, ever, AAAA, and GOTY, and then it gets an undeserved 8, you know you have a bad game. Any game as boring as Spore is lucky to get an 8.
I didn't expect much out of Spore, and I was still disappointed when I got it. But for me, personally, Audiosurf was a bigger disappointment. It fails on so many levels.
No More Heroes exceeded my expectations, and Super Smash Brothers Brawl met my expectations.
Wow, I only bought four games from 2008. I bought more games this year, but they were all from 1998, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2005, and such. Heh... I'm really surprised. I think that's it for me, but that's because I'm low on cash. I want to buy Mario Kart Wii, Boom Blox, Blast Works, de Blob, and such, but I'm really low on money. Plus, I still have three more weeks left of football, so I don't have much time.
Sorry for getting extremely off topic.
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