GTX 1080 is 9 TFLOPS and retails for $599

Even my two 970s are getting hit hard at 1440p with 2xMSAA in games like Assassin's Creed Syndicate where my FPS hovers in the mid 40s.

Currently going through AC Unity and the performance is similar.

If I disable 2xMSAA then the frame rate shoots up to 60+ fps and doesn't drop below.

But I can deal with mid 40s in fps if I can help get rid of some of the aliasing.

So angry about everything, all the time, I mean non stop. Nobody forced you to buy a console or play games on it. If less than 60fps makes you ill as you constantly claim why did you even buy a f***ing console in the first place? Stick to PC and please save us from your boring endless PC promoting drivel even as a lifelong PC gamer I cringe when I read your posts.

Your argument that you buy consoles for exclusives is a total lie since you claim to be close to hospitalised or barely escape being sectioned if some strange set of circumstances put you in a position where a game ONLY runs at 30fps.

Let's face it, you're a liar.

I admire your troll attempts, but NO.

Nobody who claims to be physically ill at frame rates under 60fps owns a console. Nobody. You're a liar. Also, you have never ever played the VAST majority of PC games which existed at a time that the PC could get nowhere near 60fps so you're lying about being a PC gamer too unless you're one of the new breed who know literally nothing about the rich history of PC gaming and think it's all about how fast your 'rig' goes and games have nothing to do with anything.

You've been exposed. Do us (and yourself) a favour and just STFU.

@blueinheaven: I have been gaming on PC and console for many years. I always preferred the high frame rates on PC. I used to play a lot of console games back in the day because there were a lot of good exclusives. I tolerated it because there were no better options for those games. When there were PC versions available like Metal Gear Solid, GTA, Prince of Persia, Splinter Cell, Beyond Good & Evil, etc., I would always play them on PC. It is the same as when I used to watch SD before HD. I don't watch SD anymore.

The power of your rig has been a "deal" as far back as I can remember(late 80s). The prime of PC gaming(late 90s) was all about frames and ping. I agree advanced gfx aren't the be all standard of PC gaming, but performance has always been a huge deal. Do you mind expounding on that aspect a bit more?

Xbox next is stronger tho

@Kjranu:

With Polaris 10? It's unlikely since both 1080 and Polaris 10 has similar max TDP. IF AMD release reaction SKUs (i.e. Ghz Edition or Boost Edition), AMD may aim for very high TDP.

Since Polaris will be released in mid 2016, the roadmap places Vega in late 2016 / early 2017 and Navi in late 2017 / early 2018. There will also be two Vega chips: Vega 10 and Vega 11.

should I do two 1080's

or two 1070's

Hmm I was hoping that at 1440p (on a 27inch screen for me) I wouldn't need to use AA anymore because of the high amount of pixels/square inch, but if I understand you correctly the difference is still quite noticeable?

I was also hoping this card would be good enough for some 1440p gaming at high fps. Sounds like it is... but not with as much room to spare as I'd hope. Not a fan of SLI/Crossfire. (Because of price to performance, personal history with failure rates of GPU's and power draw.)

Yah even at 1440p aliasing is still noticeable. I also have a 1440p 27inch screen.

SLI/Crossfire is actually the best price to performance ratio if games support it well.

Some games do very well with multi gpu setups, some games don't and some games don't support it at all.

AC Unity had SLI support from the start but AC Syndicate took 3-4 months to release SLI support which bugged me.

This is great. I was gonna get a i7 6700k and 980ti next month but I think it'll be a 1080 now.

I'm initiating my kickstarter to fund my GTX 1080. Anyone ready to throw something into the hat? =)

Not true. Double Precision is used for calculating out complex scientific calculations. Hence why only the Tesla line only use it now. Titan and Quadro dropped FP64 as Graphic Artists don't need it. Audodesk products such as 3DS Max and such use fp32 for rendering. What made the Titans so good was for 1k you could get a card that kept up in performance with a 3-4k Quadro in 3-D rendering and had very good viewport performance. The Titan X is the best Artist card you can buy right now, nice large 12gb of ram for large scenes that allows large scenes to benefit from rendering in iRay (Your Entire scene needs to fit into the GPU's memory) and it pretty much keeps up with the Quadro 6000 which the last I checked was around $5k. The Quadro 6000 is a rebadged Titan X but with ECC memory and special drivers, thats all it is. This is what makes the Titan X a great value.

So over all we're looking at around 20% - 30% increase over a non-overclocked 980Ti. So a reference 1080 should be landing in the region of my Zotac 980ti running with all the taps open. That's a fairly good leap. If the 1080 overclocks well (which it looking like it will) it could be hitting 60% or even 70% over a standard 980Ti by the time the top end cards with after market coolers come out. On water it could be even higher.

The one thing I would say to anyone planning on getting a card from this (or any) range is don't go for a reference design, wait for the Asus, Gygabyte, MSi etc, cards with far better coolers.

Wouldn't mind getting one to go with my 780Ti running Folding at Home. Reference is where its at for stuff like that.

@clyde46: I'll correct my self then :)

If you're buying one specifically for gaming, then wait for the after market cards to come out.

Going to build a new system for the GTX 1080.

Going with:

• i7 6700K
• Asus Z170 Sabertooth Mark S (White)
• Corsair Vengence LPX 16GB 2666MHz (White)
• Super Flower Leadex Gold 750W (White)
• Phanteks PH-TC12DX Cooler (White/Silver)
• Phanteks Enthoo Luxe Full Tower (White)
• Samsung 850 Evo 1TB SSD

I cannot wait!

Dropping £1,400-1,600 for this once the card is out.

Hot. I want my next PC to be white too, with yellow LED's. Maybe some orange stripes.
Like a white plate with a lemon on it. A lemon so fresh you want to BITE it despite knowing it'll be too powerful for your body to handle.

If you not already own a PC that 1070 card wont do a shit, it also cant play Uncharted but you go have fun play those indi games in 200fps that looks worse than ps2

@GarGx1: @clyde46 Are you fellow Ti owners upgrading? Or waiting for GP100?

would a 1070 do 1440p at a stable framerate?

@wizard: I'm definitely waiting for the full GP100, a potential 30% (depending on overclocking head room) over what I have already is not enough. Beside my card is barely a year old and I'd be lucky to get £400 on Ebay, depending on the 1080 being £500 in the UK.

@KungfuKitten: White and Purple!

It will do 1440p/60fps Ultra on most games. It will probably dip on more demanding games like The Division and Rise of the Tomb Raider.

I'm getting one but for Folding at Home. The reduced power consumption is great compared to the 780Ti I have running it now, should also be a nice boast in PPD as well. For my gaming rig, I'll stick with my 980Ti Strix's in SLI. Haven't even OC'd them yet. I'll wait for the GP100 before replacing them.

Sadly aliasing doesn't go away until you're at about 8k on normal sized monitors. We're many years away from not needing AA.

Damn. That's a lot of pixels.

@GarGx1: Kind of my thought train, my only concern is that GP100 will be a Titan X like GPU for $1000+. That'll force me to SLI again...

@wizard: Fairly sure that the 1080Ti will be GP100, it's really the only way they'll get a good performance boost over the 1080 GP104. Pricing wise it may be more expensive than the 1080 releases at but to be honest I wasn't expecting a $599 price point for that.

I remember paying almost £600 for my 780Ti. Can't remember how much my 980Ti's were.

@clyde46: My 980Ti was £650 but it's at the high end of the scale. Not sure what my 780Ti was but I think it was in the region of £600.

Depending on how much we get ripped off this year and the $599 US price, I'm expecting £500 to £550 for after market 1080's.

More interested in the 1070 and 1060 version I am sure will come out down the road.

Reviews will be out May 17th.

You're saying that 4K on a display between 27"-32" (since we're talking typical PC monitors and not living room TV's) and jaggies are still present? I just find that hard to believe.

Yes. You gotta get that 300+ PPI before jaggies start to disappear completely. 4k's PPI just isn't high enough.

It is hard to believe, but that is the unfortunate truth.

4k has jaggies but they aren't super noticeable. Most people playing at that resolution don't use AA because they aren't very noticeable.

Quadro has drivers that profiles pro-apps i.e.

• Quadro Graphics Driver - Official release driver for Quadro and ISV certification support to all ISVs, OEMs and End Users.
• Quadro Performance Driver - The driver released ahead of "Quadro Graphics Driver" from each major release to support the need of Press performance evaluation on Quadro.
• Quadro Partner Certified Driver - All drivers certified by our ISVs partners.
• AutoCAD Performance Driver – NVIDIA Powerdraft performance driver for Autodesk's AutoCAD software. Developed in close collaboration with Autodesk, POWERdraft is a free, downloadable software driver capable of delivering dramatic performance improvements when coupled with NVIDIA Quadro FX professional graphics solutions.
• 3ds Max Performance Driver – NVIDIA Maxtremeperformance driver for Autodesk's 3ds max software. Developed in close collaboration with Autodesk, MAXtreme is a free, downloadable software driver capable of delivering dramatic performance improvements when coupled with NVIDIA Quadro FX professional graphics solutions.

Personally I'm more interested in the GTX 1070.

Ok, I already stated that the Quadro had special drivers, but in all real world benchmarks they don't do too much to warrant the extra 4 grand. If your a large corp running rendering farms for days on end then the ECC memory and drivers would benefit and would have the spare cash, but Freelancers, Game Devs, Small Studios typically don't use Quadro due to their outrageous prices and the actual real world performance is not that big.

The Titan line is popular because it gives us small guys a powerful gpu with larger amounts of vram compared to the typical GTX line. And is actually affordable.