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#102 KillzoneSnake
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@NoodleFighter: Yes GG has 2 teams like Naughty Dog. Over 200 people. That's why Uncharted 4 took 5 years to make and we got Lost Legacy 1 year after and soon we get TLoU2. Same thing for GG. Horizon was a 6 year game though, huge project and something they never did before. They had to adapt the Killzone engine for open world.

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#103 ermacness
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@sts106mat:

I can see right through you. You're as transparent as glass. The only reason you deflected towards baiting is because your initial post doesn't have the proof needed to substantiate your claims. It's the typical rabid fanboy move. The only thing that changes with that move is who utilizes it.

BTW: It's not about what you "claim" to own that makes your character, however it's what you do that defines you. You have a lasting history here at SW, and you, me, and a whole lot of other people know just what and how your threads/post are. I must admit thought that you're a champion at deflecting. Good job!

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#105 ermacness
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@sts106mat:

Of course your initial post was a joke, sir. I'm willing to bet you that if a thread was made naming the most rampant lems here, your name would be in the top 3, if not the 1st one mentioned. But keep that deflecting spirit going sir.

**Goes on about his day living life outside of SW**

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#107 ermacness
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@sts106mat:

And the blatant denial continues......

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#109 R4gn4r0k
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@jun_aka_pekto said:

I only played the PS3 KZ games. I thought they were okay, especially once I used a mouse/keyboard adapter. I miss tangling with the ATACs.

I like Killzone 2 & 3 because they set a great atmosphere and environment it takes place in, and the weapons are neat to use too.

Killzone 3 had the jetpack suit, which was awesome throughout!

Both KZ 2&3 had aweful end bosses, if you can even call them that.

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#111 soul_starter
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Lots of negativity surrounding KZ but the original had some really cool ideas (I liked the multiple characters and skills) and teh sequel was an exceptional sequel with one of the best mp communities out there.

If they could create a new KZ, more in line with KZ2, put in a great sp campaign and lots of mp options, without the need for loot boxes and microtransactions then they would be on to a winner.

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#112 ermacness
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@sts106mat:

Multitasking is my dearest friend, and could be yours too, instead you're doing what you do best.

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#113 deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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@DragonfireXZ95 said:

Was talking more the SP than the MP.

Still play nothing alike. It was another FPS campaign, no more no less. It's as much as a CoD knock-off as CoD is a Black knock-off. Not all linear FPS campaigns are CoD knock-offs, ya kno? CoD didnt invent linear FPS campaigns

Also, it wasn't heavy when I got shot by a turret that was planted by a player, or blown up by grenades repeatedly... you know, in Call of Duty fashion. :P

You can get shot by a turret in overwatch, in Team Fortress 2... are they CoD knock-offs?

I only played the MP for a little bit

noted

And, isn't saying that it was chasing CoD's cash cow reinforcing my point?

Not really. Some elements can be taken off of something popular, but that does not make the whole package a knock-off. Nioh definitely takes elements from Souls or Bayonetta takes elements from DMC but they are still very different experiences gameplay wise

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#114  Edited By DragonfireXZ95
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@Vatusus said:
@DragonfireXZ95 said:

Was talking more the SP than the MP.

Still play nothing alike. It was another FPS campaign, no more no less. It's as much as a CoD knock-off as CoD is a Black knock-off. Not all linear FPS campaigns are CoD knock-offs, ya kno? CoD didnt invent linear FPS campaigns

Also, it wasn't heavy when I got shot by a turret that was planted by a player, or blown up by grenades repeatedly... you know, in Call of Duty fashion. :P

You can get shot by a turret in overwatch, in Team Fortress 2... are they CoD knock-offs?

I only played the MP for a little bit

noted

And, isn't saying that it was chasing CoD's cash cow reinforcing my point?

Not really. Some elements can be taken off of something popular, but that does not make the whole package a knock-off. Nioh definitely takes elements from Souls or Bayonetta takes elements from DMC but they are still very different experiences gameplay wise

Lol, your points make no sense. If Black is a CoD knock off, that means that Killzone 2 was a CoD knock off, along with Black. You're really grasping at straws here, trying to excuse one but not the other. I haven't played Black, so I don't know whether that is or not, but what you're saying points to that.

Why the hard-on for Killzone 2? It wasn't a good game by any means, so I don't know what you're defending.

"this is the basic definition of Call of Duty campaigns. You are put in a linear environment, slogged along by a boring story filled with bland characters to push buttons or kill things in order to advance to the next scripted sequence, while along the way, you kill a few generic enemies by taking cover with regenerating health tactics."

I said this earlier. Is it not true? What part isn't true?

Again, I was not trying to focus on completely on MP. SP was really what I was critiquing. However, I did see that Killzone 3 added killstreaks to the MP. ;)

By the way, Nioh is kind of a Dark Souls rip off, but here's the difference: Dark Souls is a good game. Nioh is both deeper and shallower in some ways, but the basic gameplay structure is much the same. However, Dark Souls is good, Nioh is good. Call of Duty is crap, Killzone 2 is crap. See where I'm going with this?

But, just for sake of argument, Nioh has a world that isn't unified, has a stance style attacking system, has no PVP, has only 2 person co-op, has a completely different loot and upgrade system.

Whereas, Killzone 2 has a cover system. I can't really think of much else that's different regarding the SP.

Those lists are quite different, aren't they?

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#115  Edited By jun_aka_pekto
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@R4gn4r0k said:

I like Killzone 2 & 3 because they set a great atmosphere and environment it takes place in, and the weapons are neat to use too.

Killzone 3 had the jetpack suit, which was awesome throughout!

Both KZ 2&3 had aweful end bosses, if you can even call them that.

I wasn't a big fan of motormouth though. ;) Err, I mean Rico the Sidekick. Whenever he fell down wounded, I sometimes left him on the floor until that part of the fight is over. That way, he wouldn't block my line of fire.

It was funny though when he'd be sarcastic if I didn't heal him.

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#116 AsadMahdi59
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Probably won't happen but would like them to try a hack n slash since GoW is dead.

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#117  Edited By deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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@DragonfireXZ95 said:

Lol, your points make no sense.

They actually do. You're saying K2 is a CoD knock-off (as you've said, campaign wise) in what vein exactly? Please, be more specific. CoD didnt invent the linear campaign FPS. K2 is a linear campaign FPS like any other.

If Black is a CoD knock off, that means that Killzone 2 was a CoD knock off, along with Black.

lol Wut? I said CoD is a Black knock off as an example of a linear campaign FPS i.e. you shoot enemies through linear corridors. CoD didnt invent that thus your reasoning for K2 to be a CoD knock-off is a straight up falacy.

You're really grasping at straws here, trying to excuse one but not the other.

No. Learn to read before making idiotic remarks.

I haven't played Black, so I don't know whether that is or not, but what you're saying points to that.

I presented Black as an example of a linear FPS campaign, nothing more. You still have to explain why exactly K2 is a CoD knock-off. Do they play the same/have the same gameplay/gunplay? No. Is it because its a linear FPS campaign where you shoot stuff through linear corridors? Again, CoD didnt invent that. So, in conclusion, be more specific.

Why the hard-on for Killzone 2?

I really dont have an "hard-on" for K2. I'm not really a big fan of the series but actually do find it enjoyable at the very least and think it's generaly over-hated. People have their opinions, I have mine.

It wasn't a good game by any means, so I don't know what you're defending.

So, you're one of those who think his opinion is fact. noted. 91 on meta says otherwise. You can keep your irrelevant opinion for yourself.

"this is the basic definition of Call of Duty campaigns. You are put in a linear environment, slogged along by a boring story filled with bland characters to push buttons or kill things in order to advance to the next scripted sequence, while along the way, you kill a few generic enemies by taking cover with regenerating health tactics."

So, CoD invented that? K. You know sh*t wtf you're talking about. Regenerating health was done before (The Getaway), and linear environments were also done way before CoD... hell, the overly praised by hermits Half-life 1 or MoH:AA were linear as hell and definitely "slogged along by a boring story filled with bland characters to push buttons or kill things in order to advance to the next scripted sequence"

I said this earlier. Is it not true? What part isn't true?

This false notion that "linear = bad" is what opened the course for the bland open world games we see today.

Again, I was not trying to focus on completely on MP. SP was really what I was critiquing. However, I did see that Killzone 3 added killstreaks to the MP. ;)

By the way, Nioh is kind of a Dark Souls rip off, but here's the difference: Dark Souls is a good game. Nioh is both deeper and shallower in some ways, but the basic gameplay structure is much the same.

Nope. Combat is only similar in the vein of "lock-on" into enemies (that zelda already did before Souls). The stance system and Chi system change drastically the way it's played. I know, cause I'm actually playing it right now. Are there some similarities? Sure. But it's a complete different experience (gameplay wise) to me. There are many "souls knock-offs" out there but Nioh is definitely the one that actually tried something different with it's combat.

However, Dark Souls is good, Nioh is good. Call of Duty is crap, Killzone 2 is crap.

Cool opinion. Doesnt make it a fact though...

See where I'm going with this?

Nowhere...?

But, just for sake of argument, Nioh has a world that isn't unified, has a stance style attacking system, has no PVP, has only 2 person co-op, has a completely different loot and upgrade system.

Whereas, Killzone 2 has a cover system. I can't really think of much else that's different regarding the SP.

Gameplay/gunplay, ya kno, the actual core of a game... It's diferent from any other FPS out there.

Those lists are quite different, aren't they?

No

Note: Please dont start with wall of texts. I hate those. Please make short and direct sentences. Otherwise, answers in bold

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#118  Edited By jun_aka_pekto
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@R4gn4r0k:

The boss Radec was okay in KZ2. I didn't like the ending rail sequence in KZ3. It looked nice, though if I was watching and not playing. Either ending was still better than bosses in other games. For example, the final bosses in Crysis and Warhead were among the lamest I've ever seen.

I also liked Malcolm McDowell's voiceover of, uh.... What'sHisFace. ;) It's the only thing that made me sit through the ending part of KZ3.

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@KillzoneSnake: The Last Of Us 2, Death Stranding and Ghost Of Tsushima will be the last 3 Big Exclusives from Sony in 2019 And PS5 will launch that Fall, I would think KillZone 5 would be a launch title.

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#120  Edited By daredevils2k
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@sts106mat said:

ffs do they have to?

horizon zero dog shit 2 or flopzone turd fall

aww it's okay, let the jealousy out and take a deep breathe. if anything, maybe MS might have a new IP to hit a 9 (Sea of Thieves) this year.

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#121 GameboyTroy
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Maybe they'll show a trailer for a new game at E3 2018, maybe.

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#122 jun_aka_pekto
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@R4gn4r0k said:

Honestly, I'd like a new Killzone game.

But it can't be as awful as Shadow Fall :O

Me too.

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#123 2Chalupas
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I liked Killzone on PS3, but they pretty much killed that franchise with the mediocre at best (most likely rushed and half-assed) PS4 game.

Wouldn't it be interesting if they took on anther Sony franchise like SOCOM, or rebooted Resistance? Only if they want to though, if they would be willing to go "all-in" in restoring those franchises . After doing Horizon, they should have freedom to do...whatever the $%^ they want. Whether it's Horizon sequel, another new IP, Killzone...

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#125 Epak_
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Hope it's better than HZD, game really couldn't hold my attention.

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#126 jdc6305
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I hope it's Killzone and I hope they go back to their roots with the series. I didn't like the look of Killzone on the PS4 but Killzone 2 and 3 were awesome.

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#127  Edited By scatteh316
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@hrt_rulz01 said:

They just released HZD ffs... it'll be years before they release something else. Oh that's right, I forgot Sony announces games 5 years before they come out & show CGI trailers on repeat.

At least Sony still releases them.....

Fable Legends - Announced 2013, shown in 2014, 2015 and cancelled in 2016

Scalebound - Announced 2014, game play shown in 2015, delayed until 2017, cancelled in 2017

Crackdown 3 - Announced 2014, shown in 2015, delayed until 2017, then delayed until 2018....... Still not released!!

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#128 VFighter
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@sts106mat: It's even worse times when you're a trolling fanboy.

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I would be surprised if it was anything but another Horizon game. I mean, as much as I'd prefer a strong return to the Killzone series, Horizon would be a much safer bet.

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#131 PAL360
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Hopefully HZD2 or something new.

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#132 deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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I hope it's not HZD2. Give some years to make it a truly great game. HZD is fine but there's plenty of space to improve.

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#133 Bread_or_Decide
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@UssjTrunks said:

HZD looks gorgeous, but at just 20-40 hours of gameplay, it's laughably short for a modern open world game. Going to need to step up their game if they release a sequel. Witcher 3 had more content than that in their $20 expansion.

This is it. The day when 20 hours is considered too short. I remember when four hours of COD was too short.

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#134 PCgameruk
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Is will be another Horizion for sure Sony just keep copy and pasting anything that gets a good name for itself.

More movie shit again.

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#135 daredevils2k
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@sts106mat said:
@daredevils2k said:
@sts106mat said:

ffs do they have to?

horizon zero dog shit 2 or flopzone turd fall

aww it's okay, let the jealousy out and take a deep breathe. if anything, maybe MS might have a new IP to hit a 9 (Sea of Thieves) this year.

I played both of those games and they were shit.

Its bad times when you get upset by an opinion.

Aww poor baby, let the jealousy flow through you

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#136 LoganX77
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@lexxluger: Another game wont take as long now the engines done.

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#137  Edited By Johnny-n-Roger
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@daredevils2k said:
@sts106mat said:
@daredevils2k said:
@sts106mat said:

ffs do they have to?

horizon zero dog shit 2 or flopzone turd fall

aww it's okay, let the jealousy out and take a deep breathe. if anything, maybe MS might have a new IP to hit a 9 (Sea of Thieves) this year.

I played both of those games and they were shit.

Its bad times when you get upset by an opinion.

Aww poor baby, let the jealousy flow through you

He was actually complementing the games. "Zero Dog Shit" means that it's definitely not shit, and "Turd Fall" means that it shits on everything else.

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#138  Edited By finalstar2007
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Better be more horizon!! Horizon was incredible I want to see more of that world!

Literally my first ps4 platinum that's how much I loved the game

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#139 Needhealing
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Considering the ps4 might not be out until 2020-2021. I'm betting on it for ps4.

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#140 hrt_rulz01
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@scatteh316: Lmao... I posted that months ago. Desperate much? Lol.

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#141 Randoggy
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I for one would look forward to another Killzone game.

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#143 Johnny-n-Roger
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@sts106mat said:

@daredevils2k: what am i supposedly jealous of?

exclusives.

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#145 Johnny-n-Roger
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@sts106mat said:

@Johnny-n-Roger: which i play on my ps4. try again...

PS4 does have the best brain dead movie games.

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#147 Johnny-n-Roger
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@sts106mat said:

@Johnny-n-Roger: well yes that is possibly true. press x to win bullshit

because you're too casual to appreciate something as in-depth as Horizon: Zero Flaws.

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#149 Johnny-n-Roger
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@sts106mat said:

@Johnny-n-Roger: hzd is not in depth at all. ive seen deeper puddles. currently playing kingdom come and just finished xcom2. try again.

There's nothing wrong with inferior console ports. Not everyone can be tech savvy.