Guerrilla: 'KillZone 2 SP Campaign will be 10 hours long.'

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#51 obamanian
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Another short boring linear FPS, how exiting !!!!

Like we did not have a million released and coming already

Aliens CM is my kind of shooter, i would not touch a game like KZ2

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#52 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

its not bad for an FPS having a 10hrs sp campaign but I think GG made a bad decision not putting a co-op mode... lets hope they release an update/patch in which co-op is available..

Btw is it true that the game is expected to get released 1st week of Feb in EU ?

Features for features sake isn't good either.
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#53 PAL360
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10 hours is fine!

Still very funny how fanboys claimed that Halo3 and Gears2 campaigns were short and now every one is saying that 10 hours (no coop mode) is perfect for a shooter! sad

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#54 11Marcel
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If it's actually 10 hours (not 6-8 hours) I'd be fine with it. Most fps campaigns that take longer than that get boring. Even a game like half life 2 got pretty boring at some parts, and I was thinking "when am I going to do something new?". Same with Halo CE. The library level was one too much.
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#55 TREAL_Since
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That's perfectly fine for me. I usually take longer to finish games than most too since I enjoy reveling in the experience instead of rushing through. So that high-end estimate seems cool.
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#56 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

its not bad for an FPS having a 10hrs sp campaign but I think GG made a bad decision not putting a co-op mode... lets hope they release an update/patch in which co-op is available..

Btw is it true that the game is expected to get released 1st week of Feb in EU ?

Features for features sake isn't good either.

Yeah, but hopefully they add it in just for complainers sake lol. To Malta: KZ2's European release date is Feb. 25th, two days before US.
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#57 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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Meh, 10 hours seems good.
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#58 mlbslugger86
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good, although i gotta say, more than 10 hours is pretty boring especially for a shooter, any shooter in fact
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#59 Shafftehr
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Well, I mean, it only took them 4 years. It's not like Cows complained and complained and complained and complained and complained about Halo 3's and Gears 1's campaigns which were about that long, which were made in a fraction of that time. Is it any surprise they're all flooding in here saying what a great length that is now?
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#60 Nedemis
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I find it entertaining how cows tune has changed about this type of thing now. Halo3 was roughly 6-12 hours long (depending on what difficulty you played on) and PS3 fanboys were all over that one saying it was a joke how short the game was. Now the cows are the ones saying that that's long enough and that the MP will be the reason for owning this game in the long run? Oh the irony. :lol:
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#61 Nedemis
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Well, I mean, it only took them 4 years. It's not like Cows complained and complained and complained and complained and complained about Halo 3's and Gears 1's campaigns which were about that long, which were made in a fraction of that time. Is it any surprise they're all flooding in here saying what a great length that is now?Shafftehr
not one bit. I find them more and more pathetic as time goes on.
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#62 joopyme
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lol 8-10 hours of FPS gaming is enough imo...

i'd probably get too anxious about the multiplayer if its more than 12 hours...

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#63 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

its not bad for an FPS having a 10hrs sp campaign but I think GG made a bad decision not putting a co-op mode... lets hope they release an update/patch in which co-op is available..

Btw is it true that the game is expected to get released 1st week of Feb in EU ?

TREAL_Since

Features for features sake isn't good either.

Yeah, but hopefully they add it in just for complainers sake lol. To Malta: KZ2's European release date is Feb. 25th, two days before US.

thanks man for confirming the release date in EU.... unfortunately i have to wait longer than what i hoped for :(

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#64 Shafftehr
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]It's okay for a guy like me who's got a short attention span and has very little time to play games ( :( ), but I'm amazed at the amount of people actually accepting the 10 hour estimate from developers. Maybe it's just because it's Killzone 2

It's obviously because it's on their system. Remember, Cows did nothing but criticize Halo 3's and Gears 1's campaigns that were about that long - not worth $60, beat it in a day and then there's nothing to do, etc. Now that length is wonderful, and anything longer would be too much. Funny how they've forgotten how much they despised that length in Halo 3...
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#65 haziqonfire
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Thats pretty much how long most FPS are so its fine, though they spent a lot of time developing the game, you'd think the campaign would be a little bit longer, oh well.
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#66 EmperorSupreme
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lol 8-10 hours of FPS gaming is enough imo...

i'd probably get too anxious about the multiplayer if its more than 12 hours...

joopyme
I usually prefer longer games, but for an FPS I agree with you, there have been several games I've bought where that has happened to me and I've never finished the campaign. And in general 8-10 hours is about what most single player games run now days, I'd say there are quite a few shooters out there that are even less.
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#67 Couth_
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Gamers are probably looking at a 7-8 hour campaign then..
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#68 Rhubarb9
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]It's okay for a guy like me who's got a short attention span and has very little time to play games ( :( ), but I'm amazed at the amount of people actually accepting the 10 hour estimate from developers. Maybe it's just because it's Killzone 2Shafftehr
It's obviously because it's on their system. Remember, Cows did nothing but criticize Halo 3's and Gears 1's campaigns that were about that long - not worth $60, beat it in a day and then there's nothing to do, etc. Now that length is wonderful, and anything longer would be too much. Funny how they've forgotten how much they despised that length in Halo 3...

you gotta look at it from cows side really we are pretty exhausted with the epicness of MGS4(best game yet) nowadays 10 hours would be great
not that KZ2s epicness woul'd be anything shorter than MGS4 but theres also of course the multiplayer(KZ2 mp > resistance 2 mp > halo/gears mp) that we want to get on as soon as possible


sorry if its keeping you awake at night fellow gamer............

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#69 Shafftehr
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you gotta look at it from cows side really we are pretty exhausted with the epicness of MGS4(best game yet) nowadays 10 hours would be great
not that KZ2s epicness woul'd be anything shorter than MGS4 but theres also of course the multiplayer(KZ2 mp > resistance 2 mp > halo/gears mp) that we want to get on as soon as possible


sorry if its keeping you awake at night fellow gamer............

Rhubarb9
Well, I can understand that. Watching all those cutscenes must have just been soooooo exhausting that it's OK for short campaigns now, whereas before MGSIV they were utter trash.

I won't even comment on your little multiplayer chart... Perhaps you should give it a try again when, a year later, those games still have a massive online audience like Halo 3 does. Oh, that's right - you have no idea if they will, because you don't know if either of those games have half the longevity in the multiplayer that the feature rich and very entertaining Halo 3's does.
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#70 mitu123
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

I know what you are coming from but I for one do not enjoy long FPS. Resistance I am looking at you. I am not saying that FPS should be only 10hrs but I am saying for a title like K2 anything longer could ruin the game into a backtracking repetitive mess. R2 for example, I felt that the story was very shallow but I enjoyed the pacing of the action to the point that I enjoyed beating the game twice in 2 days. But this is only my opinion.GranReyUno

i agree with the above, we know that FPS games forte is not their story therefore i can imagine a 20hrs sp campaign would end up with repeating a thousand times the same tasks/objectives in different environments..

I'd rather have a short sp campaing like in COD4 but with a good pacing and action packed sequences... i think a 10hrs campaign is long enough and if GG make sure its well paced and action filled it will surely keep gamers entertained..

hmmm. so you all didn't like the length of Half-life? Half-Life 2? Halo? Unreal? Descent? Doom? Doom 2? Dark Forces II? Deus Ex? Bioshock? because all of those are well over 10 hours. well over 20 hours, really. Just wondering, really. I remember when this generation started and people laughed at how short some games had become. Cows laughed at the length of Kameo, Condemned, GRAW and others. Then R&C, Uncharted and Heavenly Sword came out and were shorter. Not it seems like people have just accepted extremely short games. Just an observation.

Don't forget the 2 No One Lives Forever games, they last like 15-20 hours, and they're superb.
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[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"] you gotta look at it from cows side really we are pretty exhausted with the epicness of MGS4(best game yet) nowadays 10 hours would be great
not that KZ2s epicness woul'd be anything shorter than MGS4 but theres also of course the multiplayer(KZ2 mp > resistance 2 mp > halo/gears mp) that we want to get on as soon as possible


sorry if its keeping you awake at night fellow gamer............

Shafftehr

Well, I can understand that. Watching all those cutscenes must have just been soooooo exhausting that it's OK for short campaigns now, whereas before MGSIV they were utter trash.

I won't even comment on your little multiplayer chart... Perhaps you should give it a try again when, a year later, those games still have a massive online audience like Halo 3 does. Oh, that's right - you have no idea if they will, because you don't know if either of those games have half the longevity in the multiplayer that the feature rich and very entertaining Halo 3's does.

yeah exactly! gj! every cutscene was like a very good hollywood movie in itself. You gotta ask yourself the question, how ahead of its time was MGS4? incredibly art of work

yup you got me there :) how the hell can people stand the cussing racist kids, glitches, host advantage and lag?

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#72 TheOddQuantum
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I'd probably get bored if it were more.
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#73 Cole-Protocal
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Halo 3 on Heroic is just under 10 hours.

And it has 4 player online coop.

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Thats not bad. Really for a shooter like that, any longer gets repetitive.

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#75 joopyme
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[QUOTE="joopyme"]

lol 8-10 hours of FPS gaming is enough imo...

i'd probably get too anxious about the multiplayer if its more than 12 hours...

EmperorSupreme

I usually prefer longer games, but for an FPS I agree with you, there have been several games I've bought where that has happened to me and I've never finished the campaign. And in general 8-10 hours is about what most single player games run now days, I'd say there are quite a few shooters out there that are even less.

cool.. 8)

the best FPS SP so far for me was COD4, this gen. :D

every minute was just awesome.

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#76 mitu123
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Thats pretty much how long most FPS are so its fine, though they spent a lot of time developing the game, you'd think the campaign would be a little bit longer, oh well.Haziqonfire
This.
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#77 BeyondSupreme
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Thats about what most FPS's are in length. Its certainly not going to have the replayability of a R2 or Halo 3 tho.Gh0st_Of_0nyx

What? Someone isn't good at a game but actually likes it? I call BS. There's no way those are your stats.

People only like games they do good in, hence why COD4 is referred to as an FPS god.

Anyway, where did you get that Halo 3 stat bar from? How are you only a 27? You have pretty good stats to only be a Captain Grade 3.

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#78 DaBrainz
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It took them 5 years to make a 10 hour game? That is pretty sad.
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#79 GabeNewellsPie
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I remember the cows complaining because GeoW's campaign was under 10 hours. :lol:

Now because its KZ2 that makes it OK? :roll:

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#80 joopyme
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It took them 5 years to make a 10 hour game? That is pretty sad. DaBrainz
sarcasm??? or did you just HAPPEN to forget the multiplayer. :?
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#81 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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In a time when most of my friends don't even PLAY the single player in FPS anymore...yeah that's fine. Thats enough hours for them to ignore. Man that really bugs me that they do that. Bread_or_Decide
My friends did that with halo 3 and it bugs me :x!! They did the same to gears 2 but I could care less about that games ridiculous story and characters :P
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#82 DaBrainz
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[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]It took them 5 years to make a 10 hour game? That is pretty sad. joopyme
sarcasm??? or did you just HAPPEN to forget the multiplayer. :?

No sarcasm would be this: Multiplayer on consoles is worth buying a game for.

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#83 dream431ca
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Halo 2 was 4 hours long. Why are people complaining about a 10 hour FPS?
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#84 stiltzsy
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It depends on how well it plays and how well the story is. If the story is garbage then 10 hours is too long. If the story is great and gameplay to match then obviously I'd like more. Also depends on how replayable the single player compaign is. If they have hidden stuff and things to unlock (whcih make it fun) or a scoring system like Halo3 then a short campaign is fine.
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#85 mitu123
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Halo 2 was 4 hours long. Why are people complaining about a 10 hour FPS?dream431ca
There are FPSs much longer than 10 hours, some are 20 hours, like the 2 No One Lives Forever games. And Halo 2 is overrated, LOL.
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#86 NinjaMunkey01
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Sounds alright to me.

I hope you can re do bits like in COD4, it really annoyed me in MGS4 where you could not just do some bits again without tons of saves...

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

i agree with the above, we know that FPS games forte is not their story therefore i can imagine a 20hrs sp campaign would end up with repeating a thousand times the same tasks/objectives in different environments..

I'd rather have a short sp campaing like in COD4 but with a good pacing and action packed sequences... i think a 10hrs campaign is long enough and if GG make sure its well paced and action filled it will surely keep gamers entertained..

mitu123
hmmm. so you all didn't like the length of Half-life? Half-Life 2? Halo? Unreal? Descent? Doom? Doom 2? Dark Forces II? Deus Ex? Bioshock? because all of those are well over 10 hours. well over 20 hours, really. Just wondering, really. I remember when this generation started and people laughed at how short some games had become. Cows laughed at the length of Kameo, Condemned, GRAW and others. Then R&C, Uncharted and Heavenly Sword came out and were shorter. Not it seems like people have just accepted extremely short games. Just an observation.

Don't forget the 2 No One Lives Forever games, they last like 15-20 hours, and they're superb.

The NOLF games were awesome.They still hold up after all this time. But I have to say I'm certainly not surprised by the hypocrisy in this thread. In fact I fully expect anything that the cows whined about being terrible in any other game will be just fine in Killzone 2.

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#88 calvinx6
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WTF it took them that long to make a 10 hour game.
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#89 NinjaMunkey01
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[QUOTE="joopyme"][QUOTE="DaBrainz"]It took them 5 years to make a 10 hour game? That is pretty sad. DaBrainz

sarcasm??? or did you just HAPPEN to forget the multiplayer. :?

No sarcasm would be this: Multiplayer on consoles is worth buying a game for.

Ok for starters one word, warhawk, one of the best games imo on the ps3 and its all multiplayer, SOCOM now without the lag is also worth it just for online. Also remember for starters, this is the ps3 were talking about, dev time is long, also they had to build the engine as well as make the game.
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#90 toxicmog
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twice the dev time of gears 2 and the same length. Something is not right with that one :P
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#91 NinjaMunkey01
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twice the dev time of gears 2 and the same length. Something is not right with that one :Ptoxicmog
Yeah but it does look sooo much better, I mean I have gears 2 and that looks brilliant but killzone 2 is just ZOMG on a disk...
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#92 waynehead895
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Shouldn't be any longer.
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#93 Shattered007
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I don't know about anyone else but for me Devs tend to add a few hours to the game. People claimed that Gears1 was 8 hours finished it in 5 People claimed that MGS4 was 20+ Without cutscenes I finished it in 4 1/2 on BB Hard. Finished Uncharted in 6 hours (but, I was on easy on that one) I suspected that it'll take about 6 hours in all. I think for me it'll be about 5-6
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#94 Jack_Bauer07
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Seems fine for a linear shooter. Open-ended games like Far Cry 2 should always be 18+ hours at least, imo. But in my opinion, KZ2's MP looks as good as the SP, so the length isn't a huge issue as long as it's atleast eight hours long I think.
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#95 winner-ps3
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sounds like cod4 wait that was 6hours long so sounds great!
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#96 mitu123
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sounds like cod4 wait that was 6hours long so sounds great!winner-ps3
Last time I checked, it was 5 hours, and yes, I played it.
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#97 kingtito
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Wait wasn't BR supposed to make games twice as long as any 360 game?

I find the hypocrisy in this thread funny. Please cows just own up and tell everyone how pissed you are that after 4+ years of dev time and 60+ million (I think) it's only 8-10 hours long. It has BR for GODS sake!!!!!! Shouldn't that automatically make the games 20+ hours?

Denial is strong with these ones.

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#98 ermacness
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Wait wasn't BR supposed to make games twice as long as any 360 game?

I find the hypocrisy in this thread funny. Please cows just own up and tell everyone how pissed you are that after 4+ years of dev time and 60+ million (I think) it's only 8-10 hours long. It has BR for GODS sake!!!!!! Shouldn't that automatically make the games 20+ hours?

Denial is strong with these ones.

kingtito
well, when it's haled as the best looking console game now and with a multiplayer like it has. Those 2 factors seems to pacify the campaign length issues
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#99 Shafftehr
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[QUOTE="kingtito"]

Wait wasn't BR supposed to make games twice as long as any 360 game?

I find the hypocrisy in this thread funny. Please cows just own up and tell everyone how pissed you are that after 4+ years of dev time and 60+ million (I think) it's only 8-10 hours long. It has BR for GODS sake!!!!!! Shouldn't that automatically make the games 20+ hours?

Denial is strong with these ones.

ermacness
well, when it's haled as the best looking console game now and with a multiplayer like it has. Those 2 factors seems to pacify the campaign length issues

With Gears Cows unanimously decided that multiplayer and best-looking graphics at the time didn't make up for having a 10'ish hour campaign. So, what's changed Cows??
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#100 SolidTy
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With Gears Cows unanimously decided that multiplayer and best-looking graphics at the time didn't make up for having a 10'ish hour campaign. So, what's changed Cows??Shafftehr

GeoW wasn't 10ish at all. It was incredibly short, I can't speak for Cows because I loved GeoW. However, it was much shorter than 10 hours, and My first playthru was on Hardcore. I beat it the day I bought it.

I guess the trick is "ish", also, if KZ2 is as short as GeoW, I will be just as dissappointed. It all comes down to playthru. GeoW2 seemed a bit longer, thankfully. Not by much, and I expect KZ2 to be in that area, but who knows.