Guerrilla: 'KillZone 2 SP Campaign will be 10 hours long.'

According to the Resistance 2 stats, I finished the SP in 8 hours, 15 minutes. That's not factoring in the time where I died and restarted from checkpoints so it must have been 12+ hours altogether. So 10 sounds fine.Floppy_Jim

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Wait wasn't BR supposed to make games twice as long as any 360 game?

I find the hypocrisy in this thread funny. Please cows just own up and tell everyone how pissed you are that after 4+ years of dev time and 60+ million (I think) it's only 8-10 hours long. It has BR for GODS sake!!!!!! Shouldn't that automatically make the games 20+ hours?

Denial is strong with these ones.

Shafftehr

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]According to the Resistance 2 stats, I finished the SP in 8 hours, 15 minutes. That's not factoring in the time where I died and restarted from checkpoints so it must have been 12+ hours altogether. So 10 sounds fine.II_Seraphim_II

[QUOTE="Shafftehr"] With Gears Cows unanimously decided that multiplayer and best-looking graphics at the time didn't make up for having a 10'ish hour campaign. So, what's changed Cows??SolidTy

GeoW wasn't 10ish at all. It was incredibly short, I can't speak for Cows because I loved GeoW. However, it was much shorter than 10 hours, and My first playthru was on Hardcore. I beat it the day I bought it.

I guess the trick is "ish", also, if KZ2 is as short as GeoW, I will be just as dissappointed. It all comes down to playthru. GeoW2 seemed a bit longer, thankfully. Not by much, and I expect KZ2 to be in that area, but who knows.

Multiplayer is where it's at for FPSs.

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[QUOTE="Shafftehr"] With Gears Cows unanimously decided that multiplayer and best-looking graphics at the time didn't make up for having a 10'ish hour campaign. So, what's changed Cows??Shafftehr

GeoW wasn't 10ish at all. It was incredibly short, I can't speak for Cows because I loved GeoW. However, it was much shorter than 10 hours, and My first playthru was on Hardcore. I beat it the day I bought it.

I guess the trick is "ish", also, if KZ2 is as short as GeoW, I will be just as dissappointed. It all comes down to playthru. GeoW2 seemed a bit longer, thankfully. Not by much, and I expect KZ2 to be in that area, but who knows.

Yeah, I play the COD games on Hardened the first time/Veteran the second time, it depends on the Developer. I started MGS4 on Hard, and GeoW2 on Hardcore as well. Some Developers take HARD to mean actually Hard, others make HARD, Normal (To me). Yeah, I am the exception, I suppose, too much gaming.

Sometimes Hard is TOO HARD (Timesplitters series, impossible for most gamers)

If KZ2 is like 5 hours long, that would be hilarious, with the hype the way it is...but I won't be happy...except here in SW for the ownage.:)

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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Thats about what most FPS's are in length. Its certainly not going to have the replayability of a R2 or Halo 3 tho.Gh0st_Of_0nyx

And you know this how?

If people are ok with short FPS games... Why are there so many FPS's in the first place? It seems people just accept short games when it would actually be better if it it was a 15-20 hour game. Unless this game has got insanely good multiplayer then it's just another game you play once an have no need to play it again, like most short games this generation. $60 down the drain in other words.Dahaka-UK

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]According to the Resistance 2 stats, I finished the SP in 8 hours, 15 minutes. That's not factoring in the time where I died and restarted from checkpoints so it must have been 12+ hours altogether. So 10 sounds fine.Floppy_Jim

I have never, ever onnce even touched story mode in ANY shooter. And i doubt anyone really cares about the length

They didn't count the times you die and restart, I don't think... GodofBigMacs

It's better that it doesn't because else it would just pad out your playing time and make it seem like the campaign is longer than it really is.

I have never, ever onnce even touched story mode in ANY shooter. And i doubt anyone really cares about the length

They didn't count the times you die and restart, I don't think... GodofBigMacs

Well, I mean, it only took them 4 years. It's not like Cows complained and complained and complained and complained and complained about Halo 3's and Gears 1's campaigns which were about that long, which were made in a fraction of that time. Is it any surprise they're all flooding in here saying what a great length that is now?Shafftehr

Gears and Halo are about 5-6 hours. That's a little too short.

Cows are doing a complete 10 on their stance, and COMPLETELY forgetting about months of "Blu Ray will let games be longer" claims.Shafftehr

Right... 7 hours.

Sheesh, games are just getting shorter and shorter. I miss when games were 20+ hours. Games like Twilight Princess (46 hours) and Fallout 3 (50+ hours... probably more with loading) had an amazing playtime. Even though games like Gears 2, Uncharted are great, they are still waaay to short. When I pay 90$ (here in Norway) for a game, I want an experience that lasts more than 7-10 hours!

[QUOTE="Shafftehr"]Cows are doing a complete 10 on their stance, and COMPLETELY forgetting about months of "Blu Ray will let games be longer" claims.Pariah_001

exactly. what cows used to argument is that there's space for bigger texture files, better sound (larger files again) and such.

the lenght of a game is all up to the devs.

hell... you can get a 200+ hour long game with Oblivion or Disgaea and never need anything else for that. You can even get that much play from CD based games. all the BD offers is more space people, not magic!

Right... 7 hours.

Sheesh, games are just getting shorter and shorter. I miss when games were 20+ hours. Games like Twilight Princess (46 hours) and Fallout 3 (50+ hours... probably more with loading) had an amazing playtime. Even though games like Gears 2, Uncharted are great, they are still waaay to short. When I pay 90$ (here in Norway) for a game, I want an experience that lasts more than 7-10 hours!

Why is this such a big deal anyway? If the game is excellent, wouldn't you play through it multiple times? It's like every time someone mocks a game for being eight hours long, they forget they can replay it any time. That said, I'm still not sold on Killzone 2.Jack_Bauer07

Why is it such a big deal? Becuase all the cows laughed and made fun of GeOW, Halo and every other game less than 20+ hours for being short. The claimed how BR was going to magically make every PS3 game twice as long with better graphics. It didn't matter that GeOW and Halo had great multiplayer, the fact the single player campaigns were short were made into a big issue. Now all the reasons they put down the games I mentioned they're praising KZ2 for. It's hypocracy at it's best.

They can keep pretending it doesn't bother them but we all know deep down inside it hurts.

Very. Apparently it's intense as hell so you don't want it going on too long.LightReflection

it better go on for 3 to 5hours if its that intense

[QUOTE="Shafftehr"]Cows are doing a complete 10 on their stance, and COMPLETELY forgetting about months of "Blu Ray will let games be longer" claims.Pariah_001

[QUOTE="Pariah_001"][QUOTE="Shafftehr"]Cows are doing a complete 10 on their stance, and COMPLETELY forgetting about months of "Blu Ray will let games be longer" claims.SambaLele

exactly. what cows used to argument is that there's space for bigger texture files, better sound (larger files again) and such.

the lenght of a game is all up to the devs.

hell... you can get a 200+ hour long game with Oblivion or Disgaea and never need anything else for that. You can even get that much play from CD based games. all the BD offers is more space people, not magic!

Why is this such a big deal anyway? If the game is excellent, wouldn't you play through it multiple times? It's like every time someone mocks a game for being eight hours long, they forget they can replay it any time. That said, I'm still not sold on Killzone 2.Jack_Bauer07

Do you have selective memory or something? Have you NOT been reading these forums for the past few years? ALL cows were claiming BR would make games longer and look better. Those are factskingtito

If it's actually 10 hours....carljohnson3456

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]If it's actually 10 hours....Dreams-Visions

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Right... 7 hours.

Sheesh, games are just getting shorter and shorter. I miss when games were 20+ hours. Games like Twilight Princess (46 hours) and Fallout 3 (50+ hours... probably more with loading) had an amazing playtime. Even though games like Gears 2, Uncharted are great, they are still waaay to short. When I pay 90$ (here in Norway) for a game, I want an experience that lasts more than 7-10 hours!

mitu123

I have both... but I should probably play them again. Been a while since I played them.

[QUOTE="Shafftehr"]Well, I mean, it only took them 4 years. It's not like Cows complained and complained and complained and complained and complained about Halo 3's and Gears 1's campaigns which were about that long, which were made in a fraction of that time. Is it any surprise they're all flooding in here saying what a great length that is now?Pariah_001

Gears and Halo are about 5-6 hours. That's a little too short.

Right... 7 hours.

Sheesh, games are just getting shorter and shorter. I miss when games were 20+ hours. Games like Twilight Princess (46 hours) and Fallout 3 (50+ hours... probably more with loading) had an amazing playtime. Even though games like Gears 2, Uncharted are great, they are still waaay to short. When I pay 90$ (here in Norway) for a game, I want an experience that lasts more than 7-10 hours!

I have both... but I should probably play them again. Been a while since I played them.

so it will be around 15 or 20 hours on hard mode. sounds good to me

ultraking

When devs say that a game will be 'x hours long', they don't mean 'x hours long if you do the bare minimum of stuff on the easiest setting'; they mean 'x hours long on the hardest setting if you do everything'.

If they're advertising it as being 10 hours long, then it'll be 10 hours on hard mode, and probably shorter for most people.

[QUOTE="Shafftehr"]Cows are doing a complete 10 on their stance, and COMPLETELY forgetting about months of "Blu Ray will let games be longer" claims.Pariah_001

If I were an ass, I would ask you to produce some evidence that your version of cow history is more accurate than his version. But I won't. Let him go find the proof and you can just twiddle your fingers like you don't need to. In any case, I do not see how Blu-ray has been offering higher quality in games. If you want to argue exclusives, there's only one game that may offer help towards your argument, that game being MGS4. Not only did Kojima say the game could be done on the 360, that's only one game in a plethora of titles on the PS3. If the PS3 were to have higher quality games because of Blu ray, I have not seen it. All I have seen is a sizeable library of multiplatform titles with marginal differences between the two console versions, and if there was a rank, it's generally the 360 version coming behind the PC version.FrozenLiquid

The burden of proof is on him.

Anyway, I wasn't actually saying that Blu-ray offers better quality. I was saying that-that was the real contention by the Sony crowd. Not game length. However, if I wanted to argue that and offer a fool proof example of Blu-ray's value in regards to offering better game quality I would refer to Carmack's Rage since it's multiplat and we already know the 360 version will be inferirior. It's certainly not a plethora, but it's a decent primmer.