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#101 Mystic-G
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[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="ttboy"]

Or a hacker ? lol .. Call it Karma - Natural selection.. It doesn't matter; Sony is learning the hard way what MS learned when it tried to be a bully in the PC space. You don't attact your customers.

ttboy

What? The hackers are hurting the consumers. The only people Sony "attacked" are the hackers. Therefore Sony (the "evil" corporation) is actually trying to stand up for the consumers, and the hackers (who claim to be fighting for consumer rights) are the ones hurting them...

Whatever pain users are feeling is nothing compared to the executive that decided to punish a hacker. All they had to do was reasonably work with him.

These 'hackers' are also your customers ;)

Again.... sounds like something a terrorist would say. Interesting how similar the mindset of a terrorist and a hacker are.
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#102 Gamingclone
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These people should work for our government and take down our enimies.

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Many work for governments http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/computer-virus-used-to-sabotage-irans-nuclear-plans-built-by-us-and-israel/story-e6frg6so-1225989304785

sure, but not these hackers.

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#103 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

[QUOTE="Gamingclone"]

These people should work for our government and take down our enimies.

Gamingclone

Many work for governments http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/computer-virus-used-to-sabotage-irans-nuclear-plans-built-by-us-and-israel/story-e6frg6so-1225989304785

sure, but not these hackers.

They are anonymous. For all we know some could be employed by the government as we speak.
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#104 ramonnl
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[QUOTE="Gamingclone"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

Many work for governments http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/computer-virus-used-to-sabotage-irans-nuclear-plans-built-by-us-and-israel/story-e6frg6so-1225989304785

kuraimen

sure, but not these hackers.

They are anonymous. For all we know some could be employed by the government as we speak.

Never! The hackers working for the goverment are The good GUYS! The hackers attacking sony are terrorists.
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#106 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Gamingclone"]

sure, but not these hackers.

ramonnl

They are anonymous. For all we know some could be employed by the government as we speak.

Never! The hackers working for the goverment are The good GUYS! The hackers attacking sony are terrorists.

Yep, pretty much the same happens in the battlefield :P

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#107 KungfuKitten
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Anyway sony shouldn't go completely out of business. Who would want to see that? I'd rather see them go after Activision. I suppose the Sony ordeal was a bit personal. Didn't Sony get the message yet? Or maybe it's time to demand them to go on their knees or so and be done with it before this gets too uggly to speak of any good.

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#108 mztazmz
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Plan 1:Tell everyone our plan.

Plan 2:Tell everyone where to find us.

Plan 3: Do the plan and not expect anyone to find us, even it we told how to get to us.

Plan 4:.....Profit?

dreman999

Exactly, these guys are morons. I really do hope some people find them and rough them up. I mean do they realize that they have annoyed around 50,000,000 PS3 owners who have not been able to play the online games that they paid money for? I hope for their sake that they don't live anywhere near me:o

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#109 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="dreman999"]

Plan 1:Tell everyone our plan.

Plan 2:Tell everyone where to find us.

Plan 3: Do the plan and not expect anyone to find us, even it we told how to get to us.

Plan 4:.....Profit?

mztazmz

Exactly, these guys are morons. I really do hope some people find them and rough them up. I mean do they realize that they have annoyed around 50,000,000 PS3 owners who have not been able to play the online games that they paid money for? I hope for their sake that they don't live anywhere near me:o

Yeah. At this point, it's obvious that the hackers are not fighting for the consumers but for their own festering egos and desires. They're perfectly fine with ruining the online experience of countless gamers and potentially putting many in the unemployment line. They just want those precious modding tools.

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#110 RoOodriGowW
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Gotta love randoms looking for attention due to being social failures , the last 'hackers' had inside info , even myself could do what they did with such a cheap method , anyways actions speak louder than words , unless they look for attention which they obviously do they should just act as they believe it's right instead of telling the world how nerd , virgins and full of pimples they are.

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#111 caseypayne69
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These hackers have no life. They are hurting the gamer that wants to use the product to it's fullest but can't right now.
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#112 KHAndAnime
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Thread makes me laugh. Bunch of gamers telling other people to get a life. :P
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#113 worlock77
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So what "digital rights" did Sony take away from the gamers? The "right" to not pay for games? The "right" to cheat while playing online? What?

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#114 RandomWinner
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Do they not realize that they are hurting their cause? I thought Anonymous represented something cool until they set their eyes on sony.

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#115 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Yes, because a few hackers will be able to bring down a multi-billion dollar corporation. :roll:

DarkLink77
Well,they already did more than people thought they would a couple of months back.

Yeah, but at most they're an inconvenience. Dudes need to get over themselves and go outside.

lol, i dunno why, but i loled at "need to get over themselves and go outside" :P
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#116 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="danish-death"][QUOTE="ttboy"]

I support this group... Sony only have themselves to blame. Doing it during E3 would be nice...

Mystic-G

Why? Sony have already been shown the "might" of the hackers. WHY do they need to continue?

Because he's most likely a lemming judging by his standpoint.

um im confused why does supporting the hackers make him a lemming?

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#117 iamshivy
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someone needs to kick the **** out of these nerds and smash all the computer crap

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[QUOTE="killzonexbox"]What Exactly people gain for hacking.. kuraimen
One hacker made a thing called Napster which revolutionized the music industry. Sometimes thinking out of the picture and going against the rules creates a much needed or desired change sometimes it doesn't...

destroying a company is good? the thought process in this thread is questionable

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#119 nervmeister
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someone needs to kick the **** out of these nerds and smash all the computer crap

iamshivy
Violence, though tempting, is too unnecessarily extreme. But seeing them hauled off to jail by the FBI on national television would make my day.
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#120 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="killzonexbox"]What Exactly people gain for hacking.. eboyishere

One hacker made a thing called Napster which revolutionized the music industry. Sometimes thinking out of the picture and going against the rules creates a much needed or desired change sometimes it doesn't...

destroying a company is good? the thought process in this thread is questionable

It depends, Napster probably helped to partially wound many record companies which is probably a bad thing for those aompanies since they control the industry but it is a good thing for many other people who don't want record companies to control the whole industry. In th end it gave more freedom to the consumer and created other companies that take advantage of the new methods which I think is a good thing that eclipses the bad part.
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#121 johnlennon28
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These kids are watching too much sci fi movies, people these days will do anything just to be on tv or fox news lol
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#122 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="killzonexbox"]What Exactly people gain for hacking.. kuraimen
One hacker made a thing called Napster which revolutionized the music industry. Sometimes thinking out of the picture and going against the rules creates a much needed or desired change sometimes it doesn't...

um Actually napster didn't revolutionize anything it actually scared the music studios into becoming even more rampent beasts then they were and went into hyper protection mode...Napster single handedly pushed back the development of the music industry into the online arena for years.
Music studios were already feeling the bite of lower sales and many initiatives were in place to start developing more digital means for content transfer those initiatives were pulled back because of napster.

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[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] One hacker made a thing called Napster which revolutionized the music industry. Sometimes thinking out of the picture and going against the rules creates a much needed or desired change sometimes it doesn't...kuraimen

destroying a company is good? the thought process in this thread is questionable

It depends, Napster probably helped to partially wound many record companies which is probably a bad thing for those aompanies since they control the industry but it is a good thing for many other people who don't want record companies to control the whole industry. In th end it gave more freedom to the consumer and created other companies that take advantage of the new methods which I think is a good thing that eclipses the bad part.

And that still doesn't change the fact that he was just a programmer and not a hacker. :P

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I'm expecting a whole lot of nothing to happen. Or maybe they will attack Sony Iceland.
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#125 delta3074
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people had better hope this isn't the end of SONY, personally i have never bought there consoles for myself since the Ps1 (awesome machine) but they make good consoles, granted they have made a few blunders this gen but without them there would be less competition which is bad for gamers, fair enough SONY made a little bit of a mistake going after hackers but said hackers have already made there point there is absolutely no rhym or reason to carry on and they cannot justify further attacks against SONY, they are just being petty and purile now
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I bought a $20 PSN Card thinking the Store would be up soon and I'll be able to buy a game or two and now I'm hearing that there's going to be another Hack in their system that will potentially make PSN unavalible again?

I hate this.

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#127 WilliamRLBaker
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I bought a $20 PSN Card thinking the Store would be up soon and I'll be able to buy a game or two and now I'm hearing that there's going to be another Hack in their system that will potentially make PSN unavalible again?

I hate this.

LegatoSkyheart

dont take it to heart I'm sure Sony has got their stuff alot more locked down now then they did so I wouldn't worry I keep turning my ps3 on to check the store every day.

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#128 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="killzonexbox"]What Exactly people gain for hacking.. WilliamRLBaker

One hacker made a thing called Napster which revolutionized the music industry. Sometimes thinking out of the picture and going against the rules creates a much needed or desired change sometimes it doesn't...

um Actually napster didn't revolutionize anything it actually scared the music studios into becoming even more rampent beasts then they were and went into hyper protection mode...Napster single handedly pushed back the development of the music industry into the online arena for years.
Music studios were already feeling the bite of lower sales and many initiatives were in place to start developing more digital means for content transfer those initiatives were pulled back because of napster.

Eh any link to that? Napster pretty much set the P2P way of sharing music files. From then on file music sharing was never the same and it had a lot to say to the subsequent record company crysis.

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#129 MrSelf-Destruct
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

I bought a $20 PSN Card thinking the Store would be up soon and I'll be able to buy a game or two and now I'm hearing that there's going to be another Hack in their system that will potentially make PSN unavalible again?

I hate this.

WilliamRLBaker

dont take it to heart I'm sure Sony has got their stuff alot more locked down now then they did so I wouldn't worry I keep turning my ps3 on to check the store every day.

Is there STILL no news of when it will come back on?

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#130 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="eboyishere"]

destroying a company is good? the thought process in this thread is questionable

MrSelf-Destruct

It depends, Napster probably helped to partially wound many record companies which is probably a bad thing for those aompanies since they control the industry but it is a good thing for many other people who don't want record companies to control the whole industry. In th end it gave more freedom to the consumer and created other companies that take advantage of the new methods which I think is a good thing that eclipses the bad part.

And that still doesn't change the fact that he was just a programmer and not a hacker. :P

What's your definition of hacker? He was pretty much a hacker. He provided a tool to circumvent laws in a non traditional way by digital means. That pretty much makes him a hacker.
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#131 MrSelf-Destruct
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[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] It depends, Napster probably helped to partially wound many record companies which is probably a bad thing for those aompanies since they control the industry but it is a good thing for many other people who don't want record companies to control the whole industry. In th end it gave more freedom to the consumer and created other companies that take advantage of the new methods which I think is a good thing that eclipses the bad part.kuraimen

And that still doesn't change the fact that he was just a programmer and not a hacker. :P

What's your definition of hacker? He was pretty much a hacker. He provided a tool to circumvent laws in a non traditional way by digital means. That pretty much makes him a hacker.

The only thing he circumvented was a poorly written law. On the technical level all he did was write a program. He didn't have to hack anything. He wasn't a hacker.

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#132 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"] And that still doesn't change the fact that he was just a programmer and not a hacker. :P

MrSelf-Destruct

What's your definition of hacker? He was pretty much a hacker. He provided a tool to circumvent laws in a non traditional way by digital means. That pretty much makes him a hacker.

The only thing he circumvented was a poorly written law. On the technical level all he did was write a program. He didn't have to hack anything. He wasn't a hacker.

Huh? the guys who use a denial of service program to attack a site are not hacking anything either in the technical terms, they only program the application used for the attack and that's it yet they are considered hackers. And how is copyright laws poorly written laws? they are still laws and he managed to circumvent them.
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[QUOTE="danish-death"][QUOTE="ttboy"] Why? Sony have already been shown the "might" of the hackers. WHY do they need to continue? jimmypsn

I think Sony needs to be sued in my opinion for taking away the digital rights of gamers. Some of you defending sony should be ashamed of yourselves. Sony is arrogant and corrupt. They tried putting malware on our PC and they hire fake reviewers to review their games.

Source?

Sony BMG Sued by Texas, Consumers Over CD Software http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aF0UOg.iGQFY&refer=asia

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#134 ROFLCOPTER603
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"It's the beginning of the end"

Why are they so serious? They're full of themselves.

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#135 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] One hacker made a thing called Napster which revolutionized the music industry. Sometimes thinking out of the picture and going against the rules creates a much needed or desired change sometimes it doesn't...kuraimen

um Actually napster didn't revolutionize anything it actually scared the music studios into becoming even more rampent beasts then they were and went into hyper protection mode...Napster single handedly pushed back the development of the music industry into the online arena for years.
Music studios were already feeling the bite of lower sales and many initiatives were in place to start developing more digital means for content transfer those initiatives were pulled back because of napster.

Eh any link to that? Napster pretty much set the P2P way of sharing music files. From then on file music sharing was never the same and it had a lot to say to the subsequent record company crysis.

any link to your claims that napster revolutionized the music industry? thought not. Napster used it it didn't set the standard *since the standard has changed* and the standard was already there All napster used was basically MIRC type file sending otherwise it set no standard.

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#136 c49thaine
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The PS3 is the worst and most unimpressive console I've ever owned. At least it getting hacked made for some exciting news for once. Too bad hackers can't rebuild PS3 exclusives with the hack and add some decent gameplay to all those tech demos Sony's sells for $60.

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#137 gamer-adam1
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[QUOTE="jimmypsn"]

[QUOTE="danish-death"]

I think Sony needs to be sued in my opinion for taking away the digital rights of gamers. Some of you defending sony should be ashamed of yourselves. Sony is arrogant and corrupt. They tried putting malware on our PC and they hire fake reviewers to review their games.

Domin8ters

Source?

Sony BMG Sued by Texas, Consumers Over CD Software http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aF0UOg.iGQFY&refer=asia

man just think what would happen if hackers found out that every other company does the samething as Sony does

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#138 Domin8ters
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[QUOTE="Domin8ters"]

[QUOTE="jimmypsn"]

Source?

gamer-adam1

Sony BMG Sued by Texas, Consumers Over CD Software http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aF0UOg.iGQFY&refer=asia

man just think what would happen if hackers found out that every other company does the samething as Sony does

lol they would try and hack the world....haha 2012 is the end and it was cased my hackers

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people had better hope this isn't the end of SONY, personally i have never bought there consoles for myself since the Ps1 (awesome machine) but they make good consoles, granted they have made a few blunders this gen but without them there would be less competition which is bad for gamers, fair enough SONY made a little bit of a mistake going after hackers but said hackers have already made there point there is absolutely no rhym or reason to carry on and they cannot justify further attacks against SONY, they are just being petty and purile nowdelta3074

I dont think they made a mistake at all, Its unacceptable to allow people to burn free games on there console. It kills the industry and if hackers keep doing this kind of crap, there going to get laws placed against them that are going to make there already miserable lives even worse.

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#141 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

um Actually napster didn't revolutionize anything it actually scared the music studios into becoming even more rampent beasts then they were and went into hyper protection mode...Napster single handedly pushed back the development of the music industry into the online arena for years.
Music studios were already feeling the bite of lower sales and many initiatives were in place to start developing more digital means for content transfer those initiatives were pulled back because of napster.

WilliamRLBaker

Eh any link to that? Napster pretty much set the P2P way of sharing music files. From then on file music sharing was never the same and it had a lot to say to the subsequent record company crysis.

any link to your claims that napster revolutionized the music industry? thought not. Napster used it it didn't set the standard *since the standard has changed* and the standard was already there All napster used was basically MIRC type file sending otherwise it set no standard.

Here

The music industry would be in better shape now if it had engaged with Napster rather than fought it.

In the column, Mr Taylor expressed "regret" that the music industry did not move faster to work out how to use the net to promote and sell records.

He added that the music industry in 1999, when Napster debuted, would have struggled to create that business model because of rights issues, a lack of good copyright protection software and an inability to track downloads so that royalties were properly awarded.

The music industry took on Napster, said Mr Taylor, because the file-sharing system had no interest in developing the elements needed to turn it into a business.

Finally, he said, Napster's impact would be on more than just technology.

"The invention of Napster and all that has followed may soon deliver its greatest legacy - a renaissance in artistic creativity for the digital age," he said.

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#142 RogueShodown
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[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Yes, because a few hackers will be able to bring down a multi-billion dollar corporation. :roll:

DarkLink77
Well,they already did more than people thought they would a couple of months back.

Yeah, but at most they're an inconvenience. Dudes need to get over themselves and go outside.

And the sad thing is that people will defend them... They don't do this to get a point across. This is just their way to feel powerful, while they get praised by other idiots.
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#143 eboyishere
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The PS3 is the worst and most unimpressive console I've ever owned. At least it getting hacked made for some exciting news for once. Too bad hackers can't rebuild PS3 exclusives with the hack and add some decent gameplay to all those tech demos Sony's sells for $60.

c49thaine

new guy?...no no no

bill gates is that you?:o

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#144 RogueShodown
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

I bought a $20 PSN Card thinking the Store would be up soon and I'll be able to buy a game or two and now I'm hearing that there's going to be another Hack in their system that will potentially make PSN unavalible again?

I hate this.

MrSelf-Destruct

dont take it to heart I'm sure Sony has got their stuff alot more locked down now then they did so I wouldn't worry I keep turning my ps3 on to check the store every day.

Is there STILL no news of when it will come back on?

The blog is supposed to give notice a day before the Store is up. I have a feeling it won't be back by the deadline they set for tomorrow... I wonder what would happen if it's not back by Sony's E3 press conference.
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#145 super600  Moderator
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Why desn't sony just report these guys to the FBI before they pull of this hack?

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#146 eboyishere
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[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] dont take it to heart I'm sure Sony has got their stuff alot more locked down now then they did so I wouldn't worry I keep turning my ps3 on to check the store every day.

RogueShodown

Is there STILL no news of when it will come back on?

The blog is supposed to give notice a day before the Store is up. I have a feeling it won't be back by the deadline they set for tomorrow... I wonder what would happen if it's not back by Sony's E3 press conference.

i wonder what congress will say after they gave them that deadline:lol:........:|

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#147 mariokart64fan
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oh lord , it cant get any better for sony this gen can it , besides finally hitting a sales number of 50 m , and 60 m psp , ,

i just dont see this gen for sony , they need somthing and somthing fast

if nintendo sony ms were smart theyd all do somthing unprecedented next gen screw the battle release one system , then the hackers will surely lose

and i find it funny how one guy blames sony for 60 dollar games, .short campaign online reliant games

its not their fault its microsoft to ,

dont even get me started , and those games are almost all 3rd party so better watch what ya say buddy cause you are talking about microsoft and nintendo to

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#148 racing1750
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Will it ever end :(
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#149 eboyishere
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oh lord , it cant get any better for sony this gen can it , besides finally hitting a sales number of 50 m , and 60 m psp , ,

i just dont see this gen for sony , they need somthing and somthing fast

if nintendo sony ms were smart theyd all do somthing unprecedented next gen screw the battle release one system , then the hackers will surely lose

and i find it funny how one guy blames sony for 60 dollar games, .short campaign online reliant games

its not their fault its microsoft to ,

dont even get me started , and those games are almost all 3rd party so better watch what ya say buddy cause you are talking about microsoft and nintendo to

mariokart64fan

actually we lose...not only in price but also in options.

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#150 TruthBToldShow
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With these kinds of actions, its plain to see the only real motivation for these hackers is their own. Its selfish, its criminal, and its anything but "cool" This is another great topic to weed-out "real gamers" and the phonies that can spend money on all, yet, support this kind of hacker garbage.