Half-life 3, Starcraft 2, Battlefield 3 = Rise of PC gaming.

[QUOTE="tifaz"]

IMO i don't see how hermits can justify the cost of pc gaming. Whats the point in getting a mediocore pc when u might aswell have the same experience on most of the same games on a 360 for a fraction of the cost. Theres only point in getting a gaming pc if its awesome (+$1500) that'll blow console gaming out the water completely. And after that the cycle for pc's are so much shorter graphics cards must be updated every 1.5 years to have the best experience with new games.

cobrax75

Why dont you post here again when you have a Console with a map editor for nearly every major game?

and did you ever consider that maybe its for the games? there is a reason the PC has had more AA/AAA exclusives this gen than all consoles combined twice over.

Well, some of those AA's and AAA exclusives were from the 360, some of which i played months before the PC versions were released. Thats fine its your oppinion but i wouldnt pay an extra $1000 for a map editor..I'd expect an entirely different experience, not just a bit better graphics.

I guess both of you guys missed the post where I said "I'm not referring to global sales"? I have been referring to North America all along because I happen to live here therefore I am giving my views for this region.

Jrfanfreak88

[QUOTE="tifaz"]

IMO i don't see how poeple can justify the cost of pc gaming. Whats the point in getting a mediocore pc when u might aswell have the same experience on most of the same games on a 360 for a fraction of the cost. Theres only point in getting a gaming pc if its awesome (+$1500) that'll blow console gaming out the water completely. And after that the cycle for pc's are so much shorter graphics cards must be updated every 1.5 years to have the best experience with new games.

br0kenrabbit

See I agree with you here, the PC has a lot of variety sorely missed on consoles but there are some things missing on PC games too. For example, if you are a NASCAR fan (like me) there hasn't been a new NASCAR game on PC's in 4 years. Of course there is an online community keepling old games alive but the only way to get a new NASCAR game is to own a 360 or PS3. There's still plenty of fun games on consoles though, and even PC games on consoles that are a blast like the Orange Box.

[QUOTE="Jrfanfreak88"][QUOTE="cobrax75"]

your just simply clueless.....18 billion is including handhelds.

the NPD has even admited that their PC numbers are not representative of the PC industry.

and this is US only...unlike with Consoles, the biggest market for PC games has always been Europe...in fact the Germany PC gaming market alone is larger than the US PC gaming market..thats why even spore is coming to Europe before the US.

cobrax75

I guess both of you guys missed the post where I said "I'm not referring to global sales"? I have been referring to North America all along because I happen to live here therefore I am giving my views for this region. Secondly, the article states that 2 billion in sales is for handhelds so guess where the remaining 16 billion goes?

what a surprise, another american who thinks he lives in the center of the world.

No just the greatest country in the world, you know the one that saved Europes butt in WWII? ;)

No just the greatest country in the world, you know the one that saved Europes butt in WWII? ;)

Jrfanfreak88

[QUOTE="cobrax75"][QUOTE="Jrfanfreak88"][QUOTE="cobrax75"]

your just simply clueless.....18 billion is including handhelds.

the NPD has even admited that their PC numbers are not representative of the PC industry.

and this is US only...unlike with Consoles, the biggest market for PC games has always been Europe...in fact the Germany PC gaming market alone is larger than the US PC gaming market..thats why even spore is coming to Europe before the US.

Jrfanfreak88

I guess both of you guys missed the post where I said "I'm not referring to global sales"? I have been referring to North America all along because I happen to live here therefore I am giving my views for this region. Secondly, the article states that 2 billion in sales is for handhelds so guess where the remaining 16 billion goes?

what a surprise, another american who thinks he lives in the center of the world.

No just the greatest country in the world, you know the one that saved Europes butt in WWII? ;)

you mean the USSR?

because they are the ones who actually fought the Germans...the Western Front was insignificant compared to the Eastern Front.

By the Time America joined the war, Germany was already being pushed back by the Soviets.

[QUOTE="Jrfanfreak88"]

No just the greatest country in the world, you know the one that saved Europes butt in WWII? ;)

br0kenrabbit

by the time America joined the War, the Germans were already sending troops from the West to the East to fight the russians.

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"][QUOTE="Jrfanfreak88"]

No just the greatest country in the world, you know the one that saved Europes butt in WWII? ;)

cobrax75

by the time America joined the War, the Germans were already sending troops from the West to the East to fight the russians.

But we had teh nukes and teh gunz!!! Srsly joo guys would be ruined if it was not 4 dDAY!!!!/heavy sarcasm/

I am an american and I too wonder why we can't let wwII go?

Battlefield 3? I'd play it only if Dice would make a proper engine and wouldn't drop their support for it right after they release a new one.Supafly1

[QUOTE="Jrfanfreak88"]

No just the greatest country in the world, you know the one that saved Europes butt in WWII? ;)

br0kenrabbit

Sure it would have. But hey, you can't deny that we took care of Japan! :D

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"][QUOTE="Jrfanfreak88"]

No just the greatest country in the world, you know the one that saved Europes butt in WWII? ;)

Jrfanfreak88

Sure it would have. But hey, you can't deny that we took care of Japan! :D

[QUOTE="Jrfanfreak88"][QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"][QUOTE="Jrfanfreak88"]

No just the greatest country in the world, you know the one that saved Europes butt in WWII? ;)

DivergeUnify

Sure it would have. But hey, you can't deny that we took care of Japan! :D

IMO i don't see how poeple can justify the cost of pc gaming. Whats the point in getting a mediocore pc when u might aswell have the same experience on most of the same games on a 360 for a fraction of the cost. Theres only point in getting a gaming pc if its awesome (+$1500) that'll blow console gaming out the water completely. And after that the cycle for pc's are so much shorter graphics cards must be updated every 1.5 years to have the best experience with new games.

tifaz

Yet another uneducated consolite that actually thinks he knows something about PC gaming.

1. A $700 PC will blow a console away, no need to spend $1500.

2. You don't have to upgrade every 1.5 years, stop making crap up.

3. Better controls. M/KB + any controller you want to use.

4. More exclusives and more highly rated titles.

5. Better online and it's free ( paying for live is a joke)

6. Cheaper games. Saving $20 per game nullifies your argument that PC gaming is more expensive.

7. PC can do 100x what a console can do. Buying a console pretty much means you still have to go out and buy a PC so you can log onto gamespot and spew out your worthless uninformed opinions. This also nullifies your argument that PC gaming is expensive.

8. CUSTOMIZATION! Mods + the ability to customize all or almost all aspects of a game is reason enough to be a PC gamer.

None of those are exclusives and will eventually end up multiplat.Pro_wrestler

Please tell me how Starcraft 2 is not exclusive to the PC.

Oh wait, you can't.

Oh and if it's not an exclusive, it can't end up multiplat, because it already was multiplat. So we can add another level of fail to your post.

IMO i don't see how poeple can justify the cost of pc gaming. Whats the point in getting a mediocore pc when u might aswell have the same experience on most of the same games on a 360 for a fraction of the cost. Theres only point in getting a gaming pc if its awesome (+$1500) that'll blow console gaming out the water completely. And after that the cycle for pc's are so much shorter graphics cards must be updated every 1.5 years to have the best experience with new games.

tifaz

Gaming PC would not cost over $1500, I'm going to get a new computer sometime soon (my old laptop is crap) Its cost me about $847 AUD, which would be around $740 american. I'm sure it can run the lastest games.

None of those are exclusives and will eventually end up multiplat.Pro_wrestler

And DICE gave you Battlefield: Bad Company. Battlefield 3, the REAL Battlefield game, will be on PC.

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]None of those are exclusives and will eventually end up multiplat.cobrax75

Starcraft 2 not exclusive?

Battlefield 3 will be exclusive too...I can assure you of that.

Half-Life: On PS2
HL2: On Xbox, 360, PS3
Starcraft: On N64
Battlefield: On Xbox

They have never been exclusive, so I don't see why these iterations would be.

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]None of those are exclusives and will eventually end up multiplat.Pro_wrestler

Starcraft 2 not exclusive?

Battlefield 3 will be exclusive too...I can assure you of that.

Half-Life: On PS2
HL2: On Xbox, 360, PS3
Starcraft: On N64
Battlefield: On Xbox

They have never been exclusive, so I don't see why these iterations would be.

Starcraft 2 will be exclusive :lol: Blizzard hasnt ported a game in a decade now, and have said that they arent gonna start again.

Battlefield was never on the Xbox, what was on the Xbox was a Shooter with a vague resemblence to a Battlefiedl game.

Modern Combat wasnt even similar to BF2, it was just a spin off...just like Bad Company.

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]None of those are exclusives and will eventually end up multiplat.mo0ksi

And DICE gave you Battlefield: Bad Company. Battlefield 3, the REAL Battlefield game, will be on PC.

Thats your definition of it because you prefer it on PC. By your own logic, Valve would have never released TOB on consoles if it were about money, why was there a PS3 version that sold poorly when the PC version sold millions.

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]None of those are exclusives and will eventually end up multiplat.aliblabla2007

Please tell me how Starcraft 2 is not exclusive to the PC.

Oh wait, you can't.

Oh and if it's not an exclusive, it can't end up multiplat, because it already was multiplat. So we can add another level of fail to your post.

What? Your logic is fail. I'm using the same logic some of you PC fanboys used for the likes of GeOW and Halo, so why should this be any different since SC was on the N64 aswell? Talk about hypocrite, why should logic bend in favor of your preference. Just so you know, it doesn't :)

Starcraft 2 will be exclusive :lol: Blizzard hasnt ported a game in a decade now, and have said that they arent gonna start again.

Battlefield was never on the Xbox, what was on the Xbox was a Shooter with a vague resemblence to a Battlefiedl game.

Modern Combat wasnt even similar to BF2, it was just a spin off...just like Bad Company.

cobrax75

Bungie never ported Halo, yet the past two still ended up on PC. And just because you didn't enjoy it doesn't make it any less of a game. It was actually well recieved.

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

Starcraft 2 will be exclusive :lol: Blizzard hasnt ported a game in a decade now, and have said that they arent gonna start again.

Battlefield was never on the Xbox, what was on the Xbox was a Shooter with a vague resemblence to a Battlefiedl game.

Modern Combat wasnt even similar to BF2, it was just a spin off...just like Bad Company.

Pro_wrestler

Bungie never ported Halo, yet the past two still ended up on PC. And just because you didn't enjoy it doesn't make it any less of a game. It was actually well recieved.

what the hell are you talking about?

Halo 1, 2 and GEOW were all on the PC...the Last decade of games made by Blizzard havent been ported, and Blizzard said they arent gonna be porting the rest.

as for Modern Company, weather it was good or not is irrelevent, the fact was that it simply wasnt a port of any PC Battlefield game...nor did it have the same kind of design, nor was it anywhere as good.

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"][QUOTE="cobrax75"]

Starcraft 2 will be exclusive :lol: Blizzard hasnt ported a game in a decade now, and have said that they arent gonna start again.

Battlefield was never on the Xbox, what was on the Xbox was a Shooter with a vague resemblence to a Battlefiedl game.

Modern Combat wasnt even similar to BF2, it was just a spin off...just like Bad Company.

cobrax75

Bungie never ported Halo, yet the past two still ended up on PC. And just because you didn't enjoy it doesn't make it any less of a game. It was actually well recieved.

what the hell are you talking about?

Halo 1, 2 and GEOW were all on the PC...the Last decade of games made by Blizzard havent been ported, and Blizzard said they arent gonna be porting the rest.

as for Modern Company, weather it was good or not is irrelevent, the fact was that it simply wasnt a port of any PC Battlefield game...nor did it have the same kind of design, nor was it anywhere as good.

I know it was on PC and Starcraft was on N64, so what leads you to believe it would be exclusive aside from their word o.O How good it was is irrelevent yet you criticize it anyway; As a game, it was just as good...Same situation with Far Cry and the Xbox-- Or CnC3 and 360. They were executed differently but they were just as good baring the same name. They were as good or better.

[QUOTE="cobrax75"][QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"][QUOTE="cobrax75"]

Starcraft 2 will be exclusive :lol: Blizzard hasnt ported a game in a decade now, and have said that they arent gonna start again.

Battlefield was never on the Xbox, what was on the Xbox was a Shooter with a vague resemblence to a Battlefiedl game.

Modern Combat wasnt even similar to BF2, it was just a spin off...just like Bad Company.

Pro_wrestler

Bungie never ported Halo, yet the past two still ended up on PC. And just because you didn't enjoy it doesn't make it any less of a game. It was actually well recieved.

what the hell are you talking about?

Halo 1, 2 and GEOW were all on the PC...the Last decade of games made by Blizzard havent been ported, and Blizzard said they arent gonna be porting the rest.

as for Modern Company, weather it was good or not is irrelevent, the fact was that it simply wasnt a port of any PC Battlefield game...nor did it have the same kind of design, nor was it anywhere as good.

I know it was on PC and Starcraft was on N64, so what leads you to believe it would be exclusive aside from their word o.O How good it was is irrelevent yet you criticize it anyway; As a game, it was just as good...Same situation with Far Cry and the Xbox-- Or CnC3 and 360. They were executed differently but they were just as good baring the same name. They were as good or better.

Because Blizzard hasnt ported a game in 10 years...thats all I need to know.

and no, Modern Combat was nowhere near as good as BF2....if you actually think it was than you either have never played BF2, or are in some very serious denial....

and Modern Combat wasnt excuted differently, it was a completly different game...different maps, different weapons, different vehicals, no squads, no commanders, no planes...etc.

it wasnt a slightly changed port, it was a completly different game that wasnt even close to BF2 in quality.

as for C&C3 on the 360, that wasnt as good as the PC version either.

[QUOTE="tifaz"]

IMO i don't see how poeple can justify the cost of pc gaming. Whats the point in getting a mediocore pc when u might aswell have the same experience on most of the same games on a 360 for a fraction of the cost. Theres only point in getting a gaming pc if its awesome (+$1500) that'll blow console gaming out the water completely. And after that the cycle for pc's are so much shorter graphics cards must be updated every 1.5 years to have the best experience with new games.

br0kenrabbit

You forgot the applications outside of gaming. ;)

Throw Diablo 3 in there if you are going to put a game that hasn't been announced yet....rolo107

IMO i don't see how poeple can justify the cost of pc gaming. Whats the point in getting a mediocore pc when u might aswell have the same experience on most of the same games on a 360 for a fraction of the cost. Theres only point in getting a gaming pc if its awesome (+$1500) that'll blow console gaming out the water completely. And after that the cycle for pc's are so much shorter graphics cards must be updated every 1.5 years to have the best experience with new games.

tifaz

one word:

mods, they make any game unbelieveablly fun.

I thought HL2: Episode 1, 2 and 3 were Half-Life 3 ? I could've sworn I heard somebody from Valve say that.NWA_31

No I could've sworn they didn't.

They are allready working on Half-Life 3 with a small team. Gabe Newell had confirmed this before. Episode 3 will be the last of Half-Life 2. Then they will put all focus on Half-Life 3.

The game will be probably shown in 2012 E3. If the world doesn't end by then that is.

[QUOTE="NWA_31"]I thought HL2: Episode 1, 2 and 3 were Half-Life 3 ? I could've sworn I heard somebody from Valve say that.PullTheTricker

No I could've sworn they didn't.

They are allready working on Half-Life 3 with a small team. Gabe Newell had confirmed this before. Episode 3 will be the last of Half-Life 2. Then they will put all focus on Half-Life 3.

The game will be probably shown in 2012 E3. If the world doesn't end by then that is.

They just need to come out, and we will see a repeat of last gen when everyone who owned a PS2, Gamecube, Xbox saw what was on PC and were so jealeous.3verlastingHero

Yes, 2896 is gonna be a glorious year indeed.

Bah! You forgot Red Alert 3, Spore, Tiberium, Dawn of War 2, World in Conflict: Soviet Assault, Disciples 3, Majesty 2, Sims 3, and probably a lot of ther game that I forgot. And as for unannounced games, I'm sure we are soon to see Diablo 3, Civilization 5, KOTOR 3, and WarCraft 4, just to name a few.

I'm not impressed.

Because Blizzard hasnt ported a game in 10 years...thats all I need to know.

and no, Modern Combat was nowhere near as good as BF2....if you actually think it was than you either have never played BF2, or are in some very serious denial....

and Modern Combat wasnt excuted differently, it was a completly different game...different maps, different weapons, different vehicals, no squads, no commanders, no planes...etc.

it wasnt a slightly changed port, it was a completly different game that wasnt even close to BF2 in quality.

as for C&C3 on the 360, that wasnt as good as the PC version either.

cobrax75

1. Thats because RTS' on consoles were unheard of, they have more than enough reason to do so now that devs are actually taking the time to make RTS' work.

2. Or I could have an opinion o.O

3. Then consider BF3 an oppertunity for them to make another great spin-off
4. your opinion
5. I own the 360 version, played the PC version, so I think Im more credible to critique them both than you and asside from few online restrictions, they both were the same.

I don't think thats much to raise :P

Not in this genres anyway

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"][QUOTE="Jrfanfreak88"]

No just the greatest country in the world, you know the one that saved Europes butt in WWII? ;)

cobrax75

by the time America joined the War, the Germans were already sending troops from the West to the East to fight the russians.

Battlefield: On Xbox

Pro_wrestler

Battlefield on PC is still excuslive.

Battlefield 1942, Road to Rome, Secret Weapons of WW2
Battlefield Vietnam
Battlefield 2, Special Forces
Battlefield 2142

All PC exlcusive

Battlefield 2: Modern Combat - exclusive to consoles.

Worth noting Modern combat was nothing like any previous BF game and was terrrible in comparison.

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

Because Blizzard hasnt ported a game in 10 years...thats all I need to know.

and no, Modern Combat was nowhere near as good as BF2....if you actually think it was than you either have never played BF2, or are in some very serious denial....

and Modern Combat wasnt excuted differently, it was a completly different game...different maps, different weapons, different vehicals, no squads, no commanders, no planes...etc.

it wasnt a slightly changed port, it was a completly different game that wasnt even close to BF2 in quality.

as for C&C3 on the 360, that wasnt as good as the PC version either.

Pro_wrestler

1. Thats because RTS' on consoles were unheard of, they have more than enough reason to do so now that devs are actually taking the time to make RTS' work.

2. Or I could have an opinion o.O

3. Then consider BF3 an oppertunity for them to make another great spin-off
4. your opinion
5. I own the 360 version, played the PC version, so I think Im more credible to critique them both than you and asside from few online restrictions, they both were the same.

1. Blizzards word > your consolite fanboyism. It won't be on consoles, deal with it.

2. your opinion should be based on something credible.

3. or another PC exclusive, like virtually all the other battlefields

4. it's fact, not an opinion.

5. You have zero credibility when it comes to PC gaming...especially if you think ANY console RTS is comparable to it's PC counterpart....that's just blatant consolite fanboyism and it's pathetic.

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"][QUOTE="Jrfanfreak88"]

No just the greatest country in the world, you know the one that saved Europes butt in WWII? ;)

Jrfanfreak88

Sure it would have. But hey, you can't deny that we took care of Japan! :D

So blowing up 2 cities of Japan with Atomic Bombs so that future generations would born as handicapped is called "taking care"

2 of those will be on consoles.angelkimne

and hl2 works so well on xbox oh wait remember the lag feast? even a buget 9600pro or 9200 destoryed xbox with hl2

I thought HL2: Episode 1, 2 and 3 were Half-Life 3 ? I could've sworn I heard somebody from Valve say that.NWA_31

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that 2/3 of HL3 has already been released...

[QUOTE="angelkimne"]2 of those will be on consoles.imprezawrx500

and hl2 works so well on xbox oh wait remember the lag feast? even a buget 9600pro or 9200 destoryed xbox with hl2

The Orange Box ran the same on the 360 compared to a PC with settings maxed...

That being said, Half-Life is meant for the PC.

[QUOTE="aliblabla2007"]

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]None of those are exclusives and will eventually end up multiplat.Pro_wrestler

Please tell me how Starcraft 2 is not exclusive to the PC.

Oh wait, you can't.

Oh and if it's not an exclusive, it can't end up multiplat, because it already was multiplat. So we can add another level of fail to your post.

What? Your logic is fail. I'm using the same logic some of you PC fanboys used for the likes of GeOW and Halo, so why should this be any different since SC was on the N64 aswell? Talk about hypocrite, why should logic bend in favor of your preference. Just so you know, it doesn't :)

Huh? When was I talking about GeOW or Halo (Games I couldn't care less about)?

I'm talking about how you can say Starcraft 2 is not PC exclusive (when that's the only version announced).

Halo and Gears are different cases - unlike in Starcraft 2's case, the developer didn't do their last port, like, a decade ago. :roll:.

What is this "logic bending in my preference" you're talking about?

[QUOTE="slickchris7777"]

[QUOTE="Jrfanfreak88"]PC gaming will never be what it was before consoles took over. Most gaming companies are starting to quit their PC ambitions due to piracy issues. Also, why spend thousands on a PC to play the newest games when consoles under $500 can play the same games? PC games are fun and much more customizable but usually it's too much of a hassle for everybody.Jrfanfreak88

Yet the PC still has the most games...

And console sales totally destory PC gaming sales....go figure

Yes combined console sales are better than pc sales. Now compare each console separately with the pc. and as for spending thousands to play new games is the 123999556 time that console fanboys say that and is the 14335656532 time that us pc gamers or anyone that has even a tiny knowledge about pc hardware will answer you that even a $600-700 pc can play new games maxed out

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

Because Blizzard hasnt ported a game in 10 years...thats all I need to know.

and no, Modern Combat was nowhere near as good as BF2....if you actually think it was than you either have never played BF2, or are in some very serious denial....

and Modern Combat wasnt excuted differently, it was a completly different game...different maps, different weapons, different vehicals, no squads, no commanders, no planes...etc.

it wasnt a slightly changed port, it was a completly different game that wasnt even close to BF2 in quality.

as for C&C3 on the 360, that wasnt as good as the PC version either.

Pro_wrestler

1. Thats because RTS' on consoles were unheard of, they have more than enough reason to do so now that devs are actually taking the time to make RTS' work.

2. Or I could have an opinion o.O

3. Then consider BF3 an oppertunity for them to make another great spin-off
4. your opinion
5. I own the 360 version, played the PC version, so I think Im more credible to critique them both than you and asside from few online restrictions, they both were the same.

Which one was great?

[QUOTE="rolo107"]Throw Diablo 3 in there if you are going to put a game that hasn't been announced yet....Vandalvideo

Also Deus X 3

[QUOTE="Jrfanfreak88"][QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"][QUOTE="Jrfanfreak88"]

No just the greatest country in the world, you know the one that saved Europes butt in WWII? ;)

jaisimar_chelse

Sure it would have. But hey, you can't deny that we took care of Japan! :D

So blowing up 2 cities of Japan with Atomic Bombs so that future generations would born as handicapped is called "taking care"

Wow, learn your history buddy. If we didn't drop the two atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, there would of been at least a million American lives lost in the invasion of Japan. Not to mention millions upon millions of Japanese lives, including much, much more civilians than those who died from the two bombs..........what would you do? And by the way, we did not start the war. Japan belived that war with the U.S. was inevitable.