Halo 3 flopping = Extinction Level Event

[QUOTE="stvee101"][QUOTE="Eggheadz"][QUOTE="stvee101"][QUOTE="mtradr43"]

[QUOTE="stvee101"]Nah I wouldn't worry,it may not be the graphical show-stopper that everyone thought it might be but bungie know what they're doing,and more importantly, how to make a great game.justforlotr2004

you sure? new footage of the game shows its looking pretty damn good right now.

I'm not saying it doesn't look damn good,it's just that I think a lot of people,me included.expected to be blown away by the graphics just like I was with Halo CE.I mean it doesn't even look as good as Geow(not saying that's a bad thing cos Geow is still the best looking console game out IMO)which is almost a year old.

ur right the first time, halo is the most OVERHYPED sub-par game ever

its the new episodes of Star wars to games.

I agree ,Halo CE was overhyped,but it was still a really great game,and just to have a FPS of that quality on a console was pretty cool.

How can Halo CE be overhyped? It wasnt barely hyped at all before launch, it even had a horrible showing at the E3 before launch and people were sceptical of the final product. Though when released it became an instant hit and was one of the best games at the time.

Halo 2 on the other hand was over hyped and it was impossible to meet expectations. Now with the beta and barely anything being shown except now with only 1 month away there isn't much time for the game to be hyped beyond belief like Halo 2 was. Though Halo 3 is hyped a lot its definatly being more controlled than Halo 2's was which is good not only for gamers but the actual game.

I meant to say overrated.Sorry :P

Every single lemming on this board would shrivel up and die if Halo 3 flops. I mean as much trash we all talk. As much fun we poke at the other factions. If our queen, our ace, our MVP, our finishing move or whatever you want to call it flops... If Halo 3 flops, it's going to be an extinction level event that would destroy lemmings forever. It doesn't matter what the 1st 2 Halos scored. The whole series is riding on this one game.

After what these other games have scored, i'm a bit scared 9/27/07 could be the death of all lemming kind

PoppaLemming

Erh.. Aren't you a bit going overboard? I mean, it's ok to be a gamer but it's not ok to be a total fanatic.

[QUOTE="Eggheadz"]

[QUOTE="Brettheman12"]Somehow I just don't see Microsoft's flagship title flopping.Brettheman12

metroid floped and next is halo.....

it seems if ur not doin something totally new with current gen fps.....ur gonna flop

Although it doesnt sound that big of a deal I think the saved films thing is a huge feature and I hope many developers start using it after seeing how popular it gets in Halo 3. I would love to have it in a game like assassins creed, imagine watching the chases that you do. being able to get cinematic shots of your free runnings towards a target and getting away would be really sweet.

GS placed one of bungies games asone of the greatest games of all time (myth: the falllen lords). They released the game was compared to doom on the mac (marathon). They made halo which showed the xbox's graphical capability and revolutionized console fps (most anticipated fps then forth were called halo killers). Then bungie released halo 2, what so many claim was the true halo killer and the console answer to counter-strike. Not only that, they did it in such a short time frame.

i am confident halo 3 will be a great game.

Seems like sheep are begging for a 360 flagship title to flop.

It will outscore mp3 for sure, but it may land in the 8's as well. Regardless, its not gonna stop anyone from finishing the fight ;)

Besides theres a library of 360 games to play at, one game wont make or break the console.

I meant to say overrated.Sorry :P

stvee101

lol ok makes a bit more sense, but I still think you're a bit wrong. Its just a memorial game that was a huge icon for its time, just as Goldeneye may be praised as one of the best shooters ever for its time.

[QUOTE="Eggheadz"]

[QUOTE="Brettheman12"]Somehow I just don't see Microsoft's flagship title flopping.Brettheman12

metroid floped and next is halo.....

it seems if ur not doin something totally new with current gen fps.....ur gonna flop

A more advanced Forge already exists, its called Jymod for Half-Life 2, thats exactly where they got the idea from (again) no doubt ... but yea the Game/Screenshot recording is amazing, I wish Crysis & UT3 would copy it but its probably too late ^^

[QUOTE="masori"][QUOTE="Eggheadz"]

[QUOTE="Brettheman12"]Somehow I just don't see Microsoft's flagship title flopping.Brettheman12

metroid floped and next is halo.....

it seems if ur not doin something totally new with current gen fps.....ur gonna flop

im sorry sir but a game that has a rating of 8.5 is not a flop

it appears nowadays reviews r based on whats out there as much as what the game is actualy like, they stack that up against each other wen givin there review......why? i dunno so i say yes there are alot of simularities....

both metriod n halo r the third installments

both fps

both franchise games

both current gen, out in the same window timeframe

Nah I wouldn't worry,it may not be the graphical show-stopper that everyone thought it might be but bungie know what they're doing,and more importantly, how to make a great game.stvee101

[QUOTE="stvee101"][QUOTE="mtradr43"]

[QUOTE="stvee101"]Nah I wouldn't worry,it may not be the graphical show-stopper that everyone thought it might be but bungie know what they're doing,and more importantly, how to make a great game.justforlotr2004

you sure? new footage of the game shows its looking pretty damn good right now.

I'm not saying it doesn't look damn good,it's just that I think a lot of people,me included.expected to be blown away by the graphics just like I was with Halo CE.I mean it doesn't even look as good as Geow(not saying that's a bad thing cos Geow is still the best looking console game out IMO)which is almost a year old.

I think it looks way better than Gears; the graphics are extremly crisp and clear along with barely any jaggies if not none at all which was a big problem in Gears. The overall graphical effects and detail totally destroys Gears from what Ive seen.

It looks way better than Geow? Now your entitled to your opinion and I respect that,but I seriously suggest you invest in a pair of glasses my good man

[QUOTE="Brettheman12"]Somehow I just don't see Microsoft's flagship title flopping.Eggheadz

metroid floped and next is halo.....

it seems if ur not doin something totally new with current gen fps.....ur gonna flop

I doubt Halo will flop. Gamespot is in the business of making money, and they are not gonna piss off the majority of their customers by giving Halo below a 9. But, given the Bioshock score, it is unlikely that Halo 3 will get above a 9.0 either.

[QUOTE="Brettheman12"][QUOTE="masori"][QUOTE="Eggheadz"]

[QUOTE="Brettheman12"]Somehow I just don't see Microsoft's flagship title flopping.Eggheadz

metroid floped and next is halo.....

it seems if ur not doin something totally new with current gen fps.....ur gonna flop

im sorry sir but a game that has a rating of 8.5 is not a flop

it appears nowadays reviews r based on whats out there as much as what the game is actualy like, they stack that up against each other wen givin there review......why? i dunno so i say yes there are alot of simularities....

both metriod n halo r the third installments

both fps

both franchise games

both current gen, out in the same window timeframe

Differences:

MP3 crap graphics comparison.

No Multiplayer , Halo 3 has a robust Multiplayer.

... thats win right there.

If Halo flops, this is how it would look.

Ezgam3r

I don't see how it can get a 9 espescially after Bioshock and all the rambling about being the next big thing. This game is on the same league as Gears of War... and it got a 9,0.Redgarl

but gears is a year old

read my other post in the last page

n yes i think halo 3 WILL NOT SCORE A 9 from gamespot

[QUOTE="Redgarl"]I don't see how it can get a 9 espescially after Bioshock and all the rambling about being the next big thing. This game is on the same league as Gears of War... and it got a 9,0.Eggheadz

but gears is a year old

read my other post in the last page

n yes i think halo 3 WILL NOT SCORE A 9 from gamespot

BEcause your either a PS3/Wii fanboy, that claims Mass Effect looks like FF: Spirits within O_o

[QUOTE="Ezgam3r"] If Halo flops, this is how it would look.

darklord888

[QUOTE="Ezgam3r"] If Halo flops, this is how it would look.

darklord888

I'm gonna hide somewhere if it flops. No way am I going to clean up that mess.. :|JustPlainLucas

You can go hide in Roll Call. :P

[QUOTE="Eggheadz"][QUOTE="Brettheman12"][QUOTE="masori"][QUOTE="Eggheadz"]

[QUOTE="Brettheman12"]Somehow I just don't see Microsoft's flagship title flopping.Meu2k7

metroid floped and next is halo.....

it seems if ur not doin something totally new with current gen fps.....ur gonna flop

im sorry sir but a game that has a rating of 8.5 is not a flop

it appears nowadays reviews r based on whats out there as much as what the game is actualy like, they stack that up against each other wen givin there review......why? i dunno so i say yes there are alot of simularities....

both metriod n halo r the third installments

both fps

both franchise games

both current gen, out in the same window timeframe

Differences:

MP3 crap graphics comparison.

No Multiplayer , Halo 3 has a robust Multiplayer.

... thats win right there.

but so did Halo 1 and Halo 2

which will also be taken into account with reviewing......askin how much does halo 3 extend the franchise

[QUOTE="Eggheadz"]

[QUOTE="Redgarl"]I don't see how it can get a 9 espescially after Bioshock and all the rambling about being the next big thing. This game is on the same league as Gears of War... and it got a 9,0.Meu2k7

but gears is a year old

read my other post in the last page

n yes i think halo 3 WILL NOT SCORE A 9 from gamespot

BEcause your either a PS3/Wii fanboy, that claims Mass Effect looks like FF: Spirits within O_o

[QUOTE="Eggheadz"]

[QUOTE="Redgarl"]I don't see how it can get a 9 espescially after Bioshock and all the rambling about being the next big thing. This game is on the same league as Gears of War... and it got a 9,0.Meu2k7

but gears is a year old

read my other post in the last page

n yes i think halo 3 WILL NOT SCORE A 9 from gamespot

BEcause your either a PS3/Wii fanboy, that claims Mass Effect looks like FF: Spirits within O_o

Im also, the bringer of truth :P

[QUOTE="Brettheman12"]Somehow I just don't see Microsoft's flagship title flopping.Eggheadz

metroid floped and next is halo.....

it seems if ur not doin something totally new with current gen fps.....ur gonna flop

Only in system wars are people silly enough to call Corruption a flop, seriously get out more this place has made you see the opposite of reality.

Let me start the healing process for you, Corruption is not a flop, it's actually a great game, one of the best ever made in the Metroid universe, now repeat that ten times a day and soon you will be cured.

I think it'll get 8.5. Gamespot are coming down harder on games which don't evolve and change much.teh_ownerer

hoorayyyyyy

someone agrees..... just think about it guys

and ur see wat im sayin

[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="stvee101"][QUOTE="mtradr43"]

[QUOTE="stvee101"]Nah I wouldn't worry,it may not be the graphical show-stopper that everyone thought it might be but bungie know what they're doing,and more importantly, how to make a great game.stvee101

you sure? new footage of the game shows its looking pretty damn good right now.

I'm not saying it doesn't look damn good,it's just that I think a lot of people,me included.expected to be blown away by the graphics just like I was with Halo CE.I mean it doesn't even look as good as Geow(not saying that's a bad thing cos Geow is still the best looking console game out IMO)which is almost a year old.

I think it looks way better than Gears; the graphics are extremly crisp and clear along with barely any jaggies if not none at all which was a big problem in Gears. The overall graphical effects and detail totally destroys Gears from what Ive seen.

It looks way better than Geow? Now your entitled to your opinion and I respect that,but I seriously suggest you invest in a pair of glasses my good man

Nah I got 20/20 vision, I just know that visuals are just more than just one layer. Gears to me is a one layered game and Halo is a multi-layered game.

By layers I mean details, like say Halo 3's water, and although you may think this is another big statment the water is in Halo 3 is better than Bioshocks 1 layered water. The Water in Bioshock is nice but its just a visual eye candy and although it adds a lot of atmospher and is a big part of the game its not interactive at all; Where as halo 3's water is interactive on multiple accounts with not only objects floating and going down stream but also the water moves around any of those objects. In Bioshock you can jump up and down and all it does is the standard bubbled overlay and no ripples or anything.

Next you got the draw distance, in Halo 3 you can see miles off pretty clearly and it doesnt look like blurry textures, in Gears you can barely see 50 feet without the objects getting very blurry. You may say thats realistic but unless you got horrible eyes it shouldnt do it the way it does in Gears.

Then you got the foilage and enviromental things like birds and stuff (which btw in Bioshock you cant even beat the fish up that is flopping around on the ground :( but in Halo 3 you can kill the animals). In Gears many of the effects like the trees in the rainy level are cheap tricks to make it look like they are detailed moving trees but if you look closely they arent as good as they seem and the foilage in the game isnt interactive. In Halo 3 the foilage in Halo 3 is interactive on occasions like bumping up against a bush or an explosion landing next to a bush and causing it to wave in the blast.

Thats all I got for now since I gotta leave for work but thats a quick overview of what I mean by better visuals, its not just one layer I look at to see how good the game looks. Maybe its just because I am really into art and enjoy the smaller details that many people pass off as just extra junk, but I think it gives life to the game and really makes it shine over the rest.

Every franchise needs to flop at least once in its lifetime. No biggie. Good for the devs. Keeps them on their toes.

Lol, Halo 3 flopping on GS? Are you serious!... I hope not....:D.GTANJ

Witness MP3...

[QUOTE="Eggheadz"]

[QUOTE="Brettheman12"]Somehow I just don't see Microsoft's flagship title flopping.NickyJoe_

metroid floped and next is halo.....

it seems if ur not doin something totally new with current gen fps.....ur gonna flop

Only in system wars are people silly enough to call Corruption a flop, seriously get out more this place has made you see the opposite of reality.

Let me start the healing process for you, Corruption is not a flop, it's actually a great game, one of the best ever made in the Metroid universe, now repeat that ten times a day and soon you will be cured.

u can say it aint a flop......

but u CANT say its a AAA title here on GS

[QUOTE="Eggheadz"]

[QUOTE="Brettheman12"]Somehow I just don't see Microsoft's flagship title flopping.NickyJoe_

metroid floped and next is halo.....

it seems if ur not doin something totally new with current gen fps.....ur gonna flop

Only in system wars are people silly enough to call Corruption a flop, seriously get out more this place has made you see the opposite of reality.

Let me start the healing process for you, Corruption is not a flop, it's actually a great game, one of the best ever made in the Metroid universe, now repeat that ten times a day and soon you will be cured.

[QUOTE="teh_ownerer"]I think it'll get 8.5. Gamespot are coming down harder on games which don't evolve and change much.Eggheadz

hoorayyyyyy

someone agrees..... just think about it guys

and ur see wat im sayin

So what games do you think will score AAA this year? :P

[QUOTE="Ezgam3r"] If Halo flops, this is how it would look.

darklord888

In that picture it looks like Jeff is trying to eat the world.

Every franchise needs to flop at least once in its lifetime. No biggie. Good for the devs. Keeps them on their toes.

Bread_or_Decide

I think the rabid fanboys of halo keep them on their toes enough as it is. :P

[QUOTE="GTANJ"]Lol, Halo 3 flopping on GS? Are you serious!... I hope not....:D.the_wet_mop

i'de say its possible, considering how jeff hated on mp3 for being to much like its predecessors. you never know what you're gunna get with GS's erm...terrific review system:roll:

MP3 isn't the 360's flagship series is it though? It is obvious that Halo 3 will get at LEAST a 9.

[QUOTE="Eggheadz"]

[QUOTE="teh_ownerer"]I think it'll get 8.5. Gamespot are coming down harder on games which don't evolve and change much.Meu2k7

hoorayyyyyy

someone agrees..... just think about it guys

and ur see wat im sayin

So what games do you think will score AAA this year? :P

I have no idea LOL

Mass effect might, as long as the character animations dont kill the overall experence

and maybe Uncharted but i dunno

This logic underscores the cows belief that "the 360 ONLY has halo3"...

and that's simply not the case.

if it flops, i'll point the finger at Bungie and continue to buy other 360 games.

however, bungie's delivered before on both occassions. I don't see why they won't this time...

tango90101

No game is safe at Gamespot, games that should score well don't, games that are **** are AAA.

It's the weirdest thing I've ever seen, yet these guys get payed to do it, and you lot use these reviews as some sort of proof of a games quality, the whole thing makes me want to cry.

Because every single cow shriveled up and died after the horrible launch and like every sheep died because of the TP flop. Nothing will happen. It'll be no different than any other flop at it's hype level.

They'll be embarrassed over the internet, but that's it.

Every single lemming on this board would shrivel up and die if Halo 3 flops. I mean as much trash we all talk. As much fun we poke at the other factions. If our queen, our ace, our MVP, our finishing move or whatever you want to call it flops... If Halo 3 flops, it's going to be an extinction level event that would destroy lemmings forever. It doesn't matter what the 1st 2 Halos scored. The whole series is riding on this one game.

After what these other games have scored, i'm a bit scared 9/27/07 could be the death of all lemming kind

PoppaLemming

if it flops, all the lemmings will be too busy playing halo 3 to care or been on SW.

Either way it's going to be a great game. 8.5 is the closest thing to AAA now and is still a very good score.

[QUOTE="stvee101"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="stvee101"][QUOTE="mtradr43"]

[QUOTE="stvee101"]Nah I wouldn't worry,it may not be the graphical show-stopper that everyone thought it might be but bungie know what they're doing,and more importantly, how to make a great game.justforlotr2004

you sure? new footage of the game shows its looking pretty damn good right now.

I'm not saying it doesn't look damn good,it's just that I think a lot of people,me included.expected to be blown away by the graphics just like I was with Halo CE.I mean it doesn't even look as good as Geow(not saying that's a bad thing cos Geow is still the best looking console game out IMO)which is almost a year old.

I think it looks way better than Gears; the graphics are extremly crisp and clear along with barely any jaggies if not none at all which was a big problem in Gears. The overall graphical effects and detail totally destroys Gears from what Ive seen.

It looks way better than Geow? Now your entitled to your opinion and I respect that,but I seriously suggest you invest in a pair of glasses my good man

Nah I got 20/20 vision, I just know that visuals are just more than just one layer. Gears to me is a one layered game and Halo is a multi-layered game.

By layers I mean details, like say Halo 3's water, and although you may think this is another big statment the water is in Halo 3 is better than Bioshocks 1 layered water. The Water in Bioshock is nice but its just a visual eye candy and although it adds a lot of atmospher and is a big part of the game its not interactive at all; Where as halo 3's water is interactive on multiple accounts with not only objects floating and going down stream but also the water moves around any of those objects. In Bioshock you can jump up and down and all it does is the standard bubbled overlay and no ripples or anything.

Next you got the draw distance, in Halo 3 you can see miles off pretty clearly and it doesnt look like blurry textures, in Gears you can barely see 50 feet without the objects getting very blurry. You may say thats realistic but unless you got horrible eyes it shouldnt do it the way it does in Gears.

Then you got the foilage and enviromental things like birds and stuff (which btw in Bioshock you cant even beat the fish up that is flopping around on the ground :( but in Halo 3 you can kill the animals). In Gears many of the effects like the trees in the rainy level are cheap tricks to make it look like they are detailed moving trees but if you look closely they arent as good as they seem and the foilage in the game isnt interactive. In Halo 3 the foilage in Halo 3 is interactive on occasions like bumping up against a bush or an explosion landing next to a bush and causing it to wave in the blast.

Thats all I got for now since I gotta leave for work but thats a quick overview of what I mean by better visuals, its not just one layer I look at to see how good the game looks.

Nice response,I'll agree about all the little graphical touches in the game you might miss if you don't look close enough :P.But to say it totally destroys Gears is a bit ridiculous.Anyway when Crysis (sorry for mentioning it) comes out all those little touches (water,wildlife,trees etc )aren't going to look that great.

[QUOTE="Ezgam3r"] If Halo flops, this is how it would look.

darklord888

Well I reckon it is going to be pretty good, and thats a lot coming from an ex sony fanboy. It may flop and it may not. Its a rather delicate issue, because with the new system, its going to get either a 10, a 9.5, or a9.0, and all of those are a bit too milestone-ish. I would have expected a 9.6 in the old system, but if it is 9.7/8 material they might round it up to ten, which would be undeserving by any standard.

If Halo 3flops on GS... There wont be any of us around to care. We will all be playing it.

:lol: