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[QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="Snugenz"][QUOTE="sethman410"]Lol, go ahead and make fun of my comment. But you guys misunderstood me, im sorry.
Snugenz
So explain yourself or forever be a person who made one of the silliest comments ever on GS.
My dog wags its tail more when i play Halo 3 so Halo 3 > All other games lololol.:roll:
Ok, ill explain myself.
I made one of the silliest comments ever on GS, and i feel proud of that.
But seriously i was basically saying that people's opinions>>>critics. This is why im not enjoying Halo 3 and im enjoying other games that people said its a "must have". trust me opinions are better. Or you'll keep getting crappy games like GTA4 for example, and look at people's opinions about gta4. I learned my lesson after buying GTA4 and Halo.
That would be common sense, what you said was that nobody said Halo 3 was their favourite game, i think the thousands of people that play it fanatically and the thousands of fansites for the series kinda prove you wrong there.
Finally there's no way to judge how many more people liked a game other than to go off of sales, which in itself is unreliable so we're left with critics.
Well i didnt mean to say nobody said Halo 3 was the favourite game, but i was saying more people prefer MGS4 so far.
[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Jynxzor"][QUOTE="epic_pets"]Well I think Metal gear solid is betterno_handlebars
Oh....my....We have an opinion here! I agree with this opinion but noone can really compare them they are totally different genres. Wether you like it or not the TC is trying to compare aples and oranges.
I can compare apples and oranges. I prefer apples.
Now, I cannot use that as a blanket and say that apples are better than oranges to anyone other than myself, but I sure can compare them...
;)
You ever had an orange? Orange>>>>>>>>>Apples. ;)
Pineapples on the other hand beat both of them!
Please, Pears are all the rage.
[QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="-General_Ram-"]@sethman410
"Lol ur the one being ignorant. How is it possible for customers to get MGS4 is ps3 is the most expensive on the market. Imagine if ps3 was cheaper than the Wii, i think Wii Fit would still be more popular but MGS4 would be more prefered."
ur making excuses
"what if PS3 was cheaper then Wii"
"what if PS3 wasnt the least preferred console this generation?"
Im saying 8.25 million people decided that Halo 3 was worth their money. 3-4 million decided MGS4 was worth their money. No if/and/buts about it.
Sales = popularity/preferred and Halo 3 won. The metacritic Halo3 > MGS4 only backs up my case.
-General_Ram-
LOL, i making no excuses, they're facts. And again did you forget Okami? You got owned.
sigh......
Okami may be a stunning game but my point is that the market reception didnt care as much as Capcom would have hoped.
My point is: The market favoured Halo 3 over MGS4....by millions of copies.
Thats all.
okay i get your point. But i prefer quality over quantity.
Well i didnt mean to say nobody said Halo 3 was the favourite game, but i was saying more people prefer MGS4 so far.
sethman410
Thats just as silly as your first post, you have no way of knowing that "most people prefer MGS4 so far" or did you do a worldwide poll on the subject. /facepalm :roll:
P.S: Pears, Apples and Oranges suck, Grapes are teh bomb yo !!!
[QUOTE="Snugenz"][QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="Snugenz"][QUOTE="sethman410"]Lol, go ahead and make fun of my comment. But you guys misunderstood me, im sorry.
sethman410
So explain yourself or forever be a person who made one of the silliest comments ever on GS.
My dog wags its tail more when i play Halo 3 so Halo 3 > All other games lololol.:roll:
Ok, ill explain myself.
I made one of the silliest comments ever on GS, and i feel proud of that.
But seriously i was basically saying that people's opinions>>>critics. This is why im not enjoying Halo 3 and im enjoying other games that people said its a "must have". trust me opinions are better. Or you'll keep getting crappy games like GTA4 for example, and look at people's opinions about gta4. I learned my lesson after buying GTA4 and Halo.
That would be common sense, what you said was that nobody said Halo 3 was their favourite game, i think the thousands of people that play it fanatically and the thousands of fansites for the series kinda prove you wrong there.
Finally there's no way to judge how many more people liked a game other than to go off of sales, which in itself is unreliable so we're left with critics.
Well i didnt mean to say nobody said Halo 3 was the favourite game, but i was saying more people prefer MGS4 so far.
wrong. thats my point.
You say more people prefer MGS4 those people are actually a vocal MINORITY that post on the internet.
In the real world, where most normal people have better things to do then post on forums, Halo 3 is enjoyed by millions more.
If you count ONLY the internet responses from a core minority, then your only taking a survey from the tip of the iceberg.
[QUOTE="-General_Ram-"][QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="-General_Ram-"]@sethman410
"Lol ur the one being ignorant. How is it possible for customers to get MGS4 is ps3 is the most expensive on the market. Imagine if ps3 was cheaper than the Wii, i think Wii Fit would still be more popular but MGS4 would be more prefered."
ur making excuses
"what if PS3 was cheaper then Wii"
"what if PS3 wasnt the least preferred console this generation?"
Im saying 8.25 million people decided that Halo 3 was worth their money. 3-4 million decided MGS4 was worth their money. No if/and/buts about it.
Sales = popularity/preferred and Halo 3 won. The metacritic Halo3 > MGS4 only backs up my case.
sethman410
LOL, i making no excuses, they're facts. And again did you forget Okami? You got owned.
sigh......
Okami may be a stunning game but my point is that the market reception didnt care as much as Capcom would have hoped.
My point is: The market favoured Halo 3 over MGS4....by millions of copies.
Thats all.
okay i get your point. But i prefer quality over quantity.
I see no reason why halo 3 cant be both. Metacritic supports the quality aspect, sales support the quantity aspect.
so this debate is practically over.
[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]10 is more than 9.5. SORRY.WhenTheTwoFace
Gaming professionals > ur opinion. Hahaha, HALO 3 > MGS 4. Can't say anything, be quitthen, Gears also destorys it.
i wouldn't call them "gaming professionals" seeing as how they, like us, are still just gamers. they just happen to tell people what they think for a living
omfg, i forgot to say that more people prefer MGS4 over Halo 3, THE ONES THAT HAVE BOTH. duh.
sethman410
Once again, you've no way to prove that and its the exact same thing you've said in both other posts.
What did you base this statement on?, 2 out of 3 of your friends liking MGS4 more than Halo 3??:roll:
[QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="-General_Ram-"][QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="-General_Ram-"]@sethman410
"Lol ur the one being ignorant. How is it possible for customers to get MGS4 is ps3 is the most expensive on the market. Imagine if ps3 was cheaper than the Wii, i think Wii Fit would still be more popular but MGS4 would be more prefered."
ur making excuses
"what if PS3 was cheaper then Wii"
"what if PS3 wasnt the least preferred console this generation?"
Im saying 8.25 million people decided that Halo 3 was worth their money. 3-4 million decided MGS4 was worth their money. No if/and/buts about it.
Sales = popularity/preferred and Halo 3 won. The metacritic Halo3 > MGS4 only backs up my case.
-General_Ram-
LOL, i making no excuses, they're facts. And again did you forget Okami? You got owned.
sigh......
Okami may be a stunning game but my point is that the market reception didnt care as much as Capcom would have hoped.
My point is: The market favoured Halo 3 over MGS4....by millions of copies.
Thats all.
okay i get your point. But i prefer quality over quantity.
I see no reason why halo 3 cant be both. Metacritic supports the quality aspect, sales support the quantity aspect.
so this debate is practically over.
okay good for you. but your still not getting it.
[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]10 is more than 9.5. SORRY.SambaLele
:lol:
and then they'll come and say that R&C, for example, flopped because we're on gamespot and have to use it's ratings, yet when it comes to H3 everyone can use gamerankings, because then it's ok...
Can I use my own opinion for what I believe? Is that ok with everyone if I want to form my own opinions? I will let you all make up your own minds as well, I promise.
[QUOTE="sethman410"]omfg, i forgot to say that more people prefer MGS4 over Halo 3, THE ONES THAT HAVE BOTH. duh.
Snugenz
Once again, you've no way to prove that and its the exact same thing you've said in both other posts.
What did you base this statement on?, 2 out of 3 of your friends liking MGS4 more than Halo 3??:roll:
Lol. no based on reader reviews and peoples comments all the time everywhere. about 75% of them prefer MGS4, and maybe those 25% prolly just dont like stealth and likes shooters.
wrong. thats my point.
You say more people prefer MGS4 those people are actually a vocal MINORITY that post on the internet.
In the real world, where most normal people have better things to do then post on forums, Halo 3 is enjoyed by millions more.
If you count ONLY the internet responses from a core minority, then your only taking a survey from the tip of the iceberg.
-General_Ram-
the majority of people listen to low-quality music, eat cheap food, and don't get to enjoy the best there is in the world.
ok, that was kind of ironic, but i just don't see how and why the majority speaks of what is best when there's an specialized media and critics judging the product with solid parameters. That's why i always prefered to go by only one majority: the media consensus. That's why i prefer Metacritic's and Gameranking's averages than a single site's score, and that's why, although i recognise that in this case a 360 game was favoured against a PS3 game, the opposite has occurred many times, and that's just how things work.
Nonetheless, both are great games, and although i never got to play H3, i'd very much like to. What i can assure is that MGS4, for me, deserved that 10 and is a perfect ending for such a saga.
This thread is full of so much anger. :(SSJ_Nega
So young, so angry....damn that rap music!
:D
And the irony is that gaming is supposed to be all about having fun.
[QUOTE="SambaLele"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]10 is more than 9.5. SORRY.SpruceCaboose
:lol:
and then they'll come and say that R&C, for example, flopped because we're on gamespot and have to use it's ratings, yet when it comes to H3 everyone can use gamerankings, because then it's ok...
Can I use my own opinion for what I believe? Is that ok with everyone if I want to form my own opinions? I will let you all make up your own minds as well, I promise.
[QUOTE="Snugenz"][QUOTE="sethman410"]omfg, i forgot to say that more people prefer MGS4 over Halo 3, THE ONES THAT HAVE BOTH. duh.
sethman410
Once again, you've no way to prove that and its the exact same thing you've said in both other posts.
What did you base this statement on?, 2 out of 3 of your friends liking MGS4 more than Halo 3??:roll:
Lol. no based on reader reviews and peoples comments all the time everywhere. about 75% of them prefer MGS4, and maybe those 25% prolly just dont like stealth and likes shooters.
Yeah, user reviews are so reliable....Look at all the 1s and 10s for any popular game out on any site. Fanboys sway any poll.
[QUOTE="SSJ_Nega"]This thread is full of so much anger. :(SpruceCaboose
So young, so angry....damn that rap music!
:D
And the irony is that gaming is supposed to be all about having fun.
Im not angry and im one of the most person talking here arguing. Im having fun here and laughing hard. And i also made one of the silliest comments ever and feel proud of it. YES!
sethman
the same can be said about people without money to get Halo 3.
Metacritic = quality
Sales = quantity
Halo 3 beats MGS4 in both. you gotta deal. what some cows say wont change those two points.
No no, of course not. If we did that, how could we have pointless heated arguments about how one number is larger than another?Teufelhuhn
Fine, Teuf.... Tony Hawk 3 > all.
[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="SSJ_Nega"]This thread is full of so much anger. :(sethman410
So young, so angry....damn that rap music!
:D
And the irony is that gaming is supposed to be all about having fun.
Im not angry and im one of the most person talking here arguing. Im having fun here and laughing hard. And i also made one of the silliest comments ever and feel proud of it. YES!
Well, I was quoting from Shrek, and I have no idea whom SSJ was refering too, but the thread has plenty of heated people, regardless.
[QUOTE="Snugenz"][QUOTE="sethman410"]omfg, i forgot to say that more people prefer MGS4 over Halo 3, THE ONES THAT HAVE BOTH. duh.
sethman410
Once again, you've no way to prove that and its the exact same thing you've said in both other posts.
What did you base this statement on?, 2 out of 3 of your friends liking MGS4 more than Halo 3??:roll:
Lol. no based on reader reviews and peoples comments all the time everywhere. about 75% of them prefer MGS4, and maybe those 25% prolly just dont like stealth and likes shooters.
Where did you find these reader reviews and peoples comments www.playstation.com ?, www.ps3fanboy.com ?, here? and you think the people's opinions on these gaming forums could be an accurate representation of everyone who owns both?
Do the millions of people who bought Halo 3 and still play it today only do so because they dont own both MGS4 and Halo 3 ?
Also, does this mean that LBP is an awful game because it was at what 6.0 on Metacritic because of user reviews?
sethman
the same can be said about people without money to get Halo 3.
Metacritic = quality
Sales = quantity
Halo 3 beats MGS4 in both. you gotta deal. what some cows say wont change those two points.
-General_Ram-
Yes, same can be said about people without money to get Halo 3, BUT ps3 is more expensive, and MGS4 isnt as influencable as Halo 3.
uuuhhhh... so you looked all around the internet, trying to find any small piece of evidedence that halo3 > mgs4.... get a life?RafinatorUhhh, actually in this case the SMALL piece of evidence (a singular gamespot review) supports MGS4>Halo 3. The larger evidence(an average of multiple reviews INCLUDING that very same small piece of evidence) supports Halo 3>MGS4. When trying to reach a consensus among a group of people, the larger the sample the more accurate the results are. So while for system wars arguments MGS4 > Halo 3, in general Halo 3 is greater than MGS4. You simply can't apply the system wars rules when arguing about the real world as many of the "rules" are not reflective of real life scenarios(ie 360/PC multiplats being thrown out of the equation when comparing the PS3 to the 360).
[QUOTE="-General_Ram-"]sethman
the same can be said about people without money to get Halo 3.
Metacritic = quality
Sales = quantity
Halo 3 beats MGS4 in both. you gotta deal. what some cows say wont change those two points.
sethman410
Yes, same can be said about people without money to get Halo 3, BUT ps3 is more expensive, and MGS4 isnt as influencable as Halo 3.
Metacritic = quality
Sales = quantity
Halo 3 beats MGS4 in both.
ill keep saying this until it sinks. so far you didnt refute those 2 points.
[QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="-General_Ram-"]sethman
the same can be said about people without money to get Halo 3.
Metacritic = quality
Sales = quantity
Halo 3 beats MGS4 in both. you gotta deal. what some cows say wont change those two points.
-General_Ram-
Yes, same can be said about people without money to get Halo 3, BUT ps3 is more expensive, and MGS4 isnt as influencable as Halo 3.
Metacritic = quality
Sales = quantity
Halo 3 beats MGS4 in both.
ill keep saying this until it sinks. so far you didnt refute those 2 points.
Quality is subjective, whether it's a reviewer judging the quality or not. Making a thread about how critics or any group for that matter as a whole like a certain game better than another is pointless. I might as well make a thread about how my grandmother likes mittens better than gloves.[QUOTE="-General_Ram-"][QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="-General_Ram-"]sethman
the same can be said about people without money to get Halo 3.
Metacritic = quality
Sales = quantity
Halo 3 beats MGS4 in both. you gotta deal. what some cows say wont change those two points.
espoac
Yes, same can be said about people without money to get Halo 3, BUT ps3 is more expensive, and MGS4 isnt as influencable as Halo 3.
Metacritic = quality
Sales = quantity
Halo 3 beats MGS4 in both.
ill keep saying this until it sinks. so far you didnt refute those 2 points.
Quality is subjective, whether it's a reviewer judging the quality or not. Making a thread about how critics or any group for that matter as a whole like a certain game better than another is pointless. I might as well make a thread about how my grandmother likes mittens better than gloves.so every major reviewer in the industry all taken together into one average = pointless?
ur argument would be more credible if you told me you took the opinion of 50 grandmothers and told me the average response they gave.
[QUOTE="espoac"][QUOTE="-General_Ram-"][QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="-General_Ram-"]sethman
the same can be said about people without money to get Halo 3.
Metacritic = quality
Sales = quantity
Halo 3 beats MGS4 in both. you gotta deal. what some cows say wont change those two points.
-General_Ram-
Yes, same can be said about people without money to get Halo 3, BUT ps3 is more expensive, and MGS4 isnt as influencable as Halo 3.
Metacritic = quality
Sales = quantity
Halo 3 beats MGS4 in both.
ill keep saying this until it sinks. so far you didnt refute those 2 points.
Quality is subjective, whether it's a reviewer judging the quality or not. Making a thread about how critics or any group for that matter as a whole like a certain game better than another is pointless. I might as well make a thread about how my grandmother likes mittens better than gloves.so every major reviewer in the industry all taken together into one average = pointless?
ur argument would be more credible if you told me you took the opinion of 50 grandmothers and told me the average response they gave.
Yeah it's pointless. Listing the opinions of some group is not ownage. The only reason we should discuss reviews in SW is to determine whether or not a game is a flop. And even if I did survey 50 or even 5,000 grandmothers, would that really make mittens better than gloves? I think not.Haha, but...
It's not.
I like Smoked Salmon.
inertk
Oh no, it is. The thing i found funny about MGS4 is it actually attempted it's own form of achievements, I've no idea if these medals whatever yo ucall them that you unlock after completing the game was in the previous ones but what a terrible attempt at proloning the games life.
What was it, spend an hour attached to a wall? Spend an hour prone? Boring? That's the *best* Konami and co could come up with to prolong the games life. :lol:
I played through it once, I've not gone back. Halo 3 still has 4 player co-op and still has it's multiplayer to fall on whenever i feel like. Guarenteed entertainment. And I don't need to sit through a cutscene for the bazillionth time either.
Reality is MGS4 is a very in your face, WOW and it's gone game, doesn't have lasting appeal and that's it's downfall IMO
[QUOTE="ChiddaPotta"][QUOTE="Snugenz"][QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="WhenTheTwoFace"]H3 - 93.4
MGS 4 - 92.5
Sorry, critics, say that MGS 4 holds a good point, but not to H3 's standard. ahahahahahah
//everybody judging a game by one review OWNED.
nVidiaGaMer
Hey buddy your kinda ticking me off, has anyone ever said Halo 3 is their favorite or must have game at all? No, i dont think so, what bout MGS4? Yes. So MGS4>Halo3, sorry buddy u got ownt.
By the way critics are crap.
What the hell ??? lmao.
Joke right?
LOL. Must be. Thats a funny quote and is sig worthy IMO.
So...If people say MGS4 is ther e favourite game it automatically beats Halo 3?
OKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK...........XD
Already done with that. :P
LOL.
On-Topic: I think the real battle here is sethman410 vs -General_Ram-.
Arguing like crazy xD
[QUOTE="inertk"]Haha, but...
It's not.
I like Smoked Salmon.
CreepyBacon
Oh no, it is. The thing i found funny about MGS4 is it actually attempted it's own form of achievements, I've no idea if these medals whatever yo ucall them that you unlock after completing the game was in the previous ones but what a terrible attempt at proloning the games life.
What was it, spend an hour attached to a wall? Spend an hour prone? Boring? That's the *best* Konami and co could come up with to prolong the games life. :lol:
I played through it once, I've not gone back. Halo 3 still has 4 player co-op and still has it's multiplayer to fall on whenever i feel like. Guarenteed entertainment. And I don't need to sit through a cutscene for the bazillionth time either.
Reality is MGS4 is a very in your face, WOW and it's gone game, doesn't have lasting appeal and that's it's downfall IMO
Yeah I get you, it's fortunate that Halo 3 is always just as mediocre as you left it.
It doesn't matter where you go, whether it's on GameSpot or GameRankings, the 360 got more higher rated games than the PS3.
It doesn't matter where you go, whether it's on GameSpot or GameRankings, the 360 got more higher rated games than the PS3.
ReverseCycology
this thread is about halo 3 vs mgs4 is it not
[QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="-General_Ram-"]sethman
the same can be said about people without money to get Halo 3.
Metacritic = quality
Sales = quantity
Halo 3 beats MGS4 in both. you gotta deal. what some cows say wont change those two points.
-General_Ram-
Yes, same can be said about people without money to get Halo 3, BUT ps3 is more expensive, and MGS4 isnt as influencable as Halo 3.
Metacritic = quality
Sales = quantity
Halo 3 beats MGS4 in both.
ill keep saying this until it sinks. so far you didnt refute those 2 points.
Metacritic is by no means FACT. The 3 or so reviews that gave Halo 3 the SLIGHT higher percentage translates to 3 people's opinions :| There is absolutely no way your argument isn't questionable, unless there's a huge gap between percentages.
As far as sales go, fact is, there are more consumers out there with a 360. You'd have an argument if both install bases were near same.
[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]It doesn't matter where you go, whether it's on GameSpot or GameRankings, the 360 got more higher rated games than the PS3.
PrinceofSarcasm
this thread is about halo 3 vs mgs4 is it not
It doesn't matter where you go, whether it's on GameSpot or GameRankings, the 360 got more higher rated games than the PS3.
ReverseCycology
Don't they have an equal amount of AAAE's on GameRankings?
mgs4 average critic score = 9.3
halo 3 average critic score = 9.3
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mgs4 averafe user score = 9.5
halo 3 average user score = 8.9 (wtf not even 9.0)
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conculision
While critics agree that mgs4 and halo 3 are equall Users overall enjoyed MGS4 more and in the end thats what counts the most how gamers enjoy the game.
need prove
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/adventure/metalgearsolid4/index.html
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/halo3/index.html?tag=result;title;1
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