Halo 3: ODST sales weak compared to Halo 3

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Hexagon_777

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

[QUOTE="sexy_robot_man"]Wow you really need to play more games.

sexy_robot_man

Wow you really need to learn what an opinion is!

Saying "You need to play better games" is a statement that innately enforces your opinion over his. :|

You put it out there like its a certifiable fact, and it's going to be tore down for the fallacy it is.

[QUOTE="sexy_robot_man"]

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

Wow you really need to learn what an opinion is!

Kickinurass

Saying "You need to play better games" is a statement that innately enforces your opinion over his. :|

You put it out there like its a certifiable fact, and it's going to be tore down for the fallacy it is.

Halo 3:ODST is still better then anything the PS3 came out with.

[QUOTE="TheKingAPop"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] Huh? 2.2 million in a weak is embarrassingly weak? Not for any game anywhere. 2.2 million is incredibly good.GulliversTravel

Well MGS4 actually it has sold almost 2 million copies here in NA. PS3 exclusives just don't sell like Halo or Gears it is a fact. I hope Uncharted 2 bucks the trend and sells well over 1million plus in NA by the end of the year. I feel it could if it is marketed correctly. I surely think it will outsell MGS4. Though it won't get anywhere near HALO ODST.

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

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TheKingAPop

Yeah, good for a laugh

Good day, wise members of System Wars. Here's System Wars' approved sales analyst speaking. Halo 3's first expansion, Halo 3: ODST, has officially managed to sell 2.2 million units in its first week of availability - worldwide.[1] Over 2 million copies in one week is a great accomplishment, but compared to the previous Halo titles, Halo 2 and Halo 3, these numbers are not imposing. It's time to compare the sales of Halo 3 and Halo 3's expansion. While Halo 3: ODST did great by getting sold 2.2 million times to gamers in its first days, Halo 3 did a lot better. More than 31 million Xbox 360s had been sold before Halo 3: ODST launched.[2] It succeded in selling 2.2 million copies after one week on the market, as stated. When Halo 3 launched, however, less than 12 million Xbox 360s had been sold[3], and the mega popular game sold an astonishing 2.5 million units in 24 hours[4] - in the U.S. only, bringing in $170 million in U.S. stores on Tuesday only (September 25th)[5]. The comparison Halo 3: ODST: First-week sales (worldwide): 2.2 million on a 31-million user base. Halo 3: First-day sales (U.S. only): 2.5 million on a ~11.5-million user base. Now, great men of System Wars, do not misunderstand me - I love Halo and am not trying to bash it. I am - in company with my arguments - trying to say that Halo 3: ODST is a sales fiasco. Thoughts, clever members of System Wars? __________________ Sources: [1] - http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=5392&mp=1 [2] - http://www.gamespot.com/news/6216343.html?tag=recent_news;title;5 [3] - http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/more-than-116-million-xbox-360-consoles-sold [4] - http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117982551.html?categoryid=20&cs=1 [5] - http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4188/is_20070927/ai_n21025960/TheKingAPop

its a ripoff forpeople that already bought the map packs, im sure thats the reason

johnnyblazed88

[QUOTE="TheKingAPop"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

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VoodooHak

Yeah, good for a laugh

2.2 million for an expansion in one week is amazing , it sold in one day more than Killzone 2 and Metal gear solid 4 idd in their life time . Halo Reach is a really different story ......D-RS

What? Metal Gear Solid 4 has nearly sold 5 million copies.

[QUOTE="cowgriller"]

[QUOTE="TheKingAPop"] Killzone is a relatively new series, while Halo is the most successful first-person shooter series with its iconic character Master Chief. It's unfair.TheKingAPop

relatively new? the series started in 2004 with the ps2. it came out 3 years after halo: CE. a relatively new series would be gears of war or mass effect.

Killzone.... the purported Halo-killer. The sequel with the much publicized E3 trailer, how many years in development with a team numbered in the hundreds and a huge budget. The amount of buzz behind Killzone 2 created its own set of expectations. Feel free to search through the forum topics about Killzone leading up to, and shortly after launch.

Whether set by a franchise name or the amount of publicity a game gets, the expectations were very lofty and probably unrealistic.

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[QUOTE="TheKingAPop"] Yeah, thanks. I only create good threads.TheKingAPop

Yeah, good for a laugh

Sources are useless if your premise is faulty. And yes, I believe general concensus here is that you are here to troll. Mission accomplished.

Uncharted 2 is out in less then two weeks, the there is barely any marketing what so ever.

They already messed that up.

I bet it would have sold more if they called it Halo: ODST.

Thanks, I got it.

Halo is a juggernaut of a franchise whose greatest competition comes from other games in the franchise.

[QUOTE="Awinagainov"]

A) Its not a full new entry in Halo

darthogre

[QUOTE="cowgriller"]

[QUOTE="TheKingAPop"] Killzone is a relatively new series, while Halo is the most successful first-person shooter series with its iconic character Master Chief. It's unfair.TheKingAPop

relatively new? the series started in 2004 with the ps2. it came out 3 years after halo: CE. a relatively new series would be gears of war or mass effect.

you're kidding right? the cows were the first to compare killzone to halo. it was branded the halo-killer until it flopped. you can compare the two and when you do, you'll see that halo is just down right better in everything except graphics. and btw, selling 2.2 million copies in one week is an accomplishment, not a failure. especially if it's an expansion pack coupled with 2 year old map packs and out sold a competitor that was in development for over 4 years and hyped for 4 years. if you consider halo: ODST a failure, then you'll have to consider every single ps3 game and most xbox 360 and wii games failures because they couldn't sell as many copies in their lifetime, let alone one week.

[QUOTE="TheKingAPop"][QUOTE="cowgriller"]

relatively new? the series started in 2004 with the ps2. it came out 3 years after halo: CE. a relatively new series would be gears of war or mass effect.

cowgriller

you're kidding right? the cows were the first to compare killzone to halo. it was branded the halo-killer until it flopped. you can compare the two and when you do, you'll see that halo is just down right better in everything except graphics. and btw, selling 2.2 million copies in one week is an accomplishment, not a failure. especially if it's an expansion pack coupled with 2 year old map packs and out sold a competitor that was in development for over 4 years and hyped for 4 years. if you consider halo: ODST a failure, then you'll have to consider every single ps3 game and most xbox 360 and wii games failures because they couldn't sell as many copies in their lifetime, let alone one week.

[QUOTE="D-RS"]2.2 million for an expansion in one week is amazing , it sold in one day more than Killzone 2 and Metal gear solid 4 idd in their life time . Halo Reach is a really different story ......Asim90

What? Metal Gear Solid 4 has nearly sold 5 million copies.

Yeah, what's up with that statement. 2.2 million is WW not NA. MGS4 has sold over 4.6 Millions LTD WW.

Sold more than anything on the PS3 this year how much KZ2 sell again? 4 years and barely over a million rofl LOSESergeAndKid

4 Years KZ2 has only been out Since Feb. of this year. Look it up. LOL. Hey I agree HALO ODST had great sales for an expansion pack but it is Halo and it will sell like hotcakes on name alone like Mario.

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Only on system wars will you see posters trying to convince us that 2.2 million sales in a week is a bad thing.

TheKingAPop

it's more like Final Fantasy spin offs as compared to the main series.

[QUOTE="SergeAndKid"]Sold more than anything on the PS3 this year how much KZ2 sell again? 4 years and barely over a million rofl LOSE3rdbass

4 Years KZ2 has only been out Since Feb. of this year. Look it up. LOL. Hey I agree HALO ODST had great sales for an expansion pack but it is Halo and it will sell like hotcakes on name alone like Mario.

[QUOTE="cowgriller"]

[QUOTE="TheKingAPop"] Again, you can't compare Killzone to Halo. Killzone is nothing huge or spectacular. Halo is an iconic first-person shooters and is played by over a million each day. There is a clear popularity difference.TheKingAPop

you're kidding right? the cows were the first to compare killzone to halo. it was branded the halo-killer until it flopped. you can compare the two and when you do, you'll see that halo is just down right better in everything except graphics. and btw, selling 2.2 million copies in one week is an accomplishment, not a failure. especially if it's an expansion pack coupled with 2 year old map packs and out sold a competitor that was in development for over 4 years and hyped for 4 years. if you consider halo: ODST a failure, then you'll have to consider every single ps3 game and most xbox 360 and wii games failures because they couldn't sell as many copies in their lifetime, let alone one week.

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[QUOTE="SergeAndKid"]Sold more than anything on the PS3 this year how much KZ2 sell again? 4 years and barely over a million rofl LOSESergeAndKid

4 Years KZ2 has only been out Since Feb. of this year. Look it up. LOL. Hey I agree HALO ODST had great sales for an expansion pack but it is Halo and it will sell like hotcakes on name alone like Mario.

[QUOTE="3rdbass"]

[QUOTE="SergeAndKid"]Sold more than anything on the PS3 this year how much KZ2 sell again? 4 years and barely over a million rofl LOSESergeAndKid

4 Years KZ2 has only been out Since Feb. of this year. Look it up. LOL. Hey I agree HALO ODST had great sales for an expansion pack but it is Halo and it will sell like hotcakes on name alone like Mario.

Well at least compare apple to apples. 2.2 ODST is WW KZ 2 just under 1 million is NA alone.KZ2 has actually sold close to2 million WW. Hey I'm not refuting that the ODST has sold well I'm just saying get your facts straight before you spit off things like 4 years and only 1 million. I mean control your fanboyism before posting so you can get the facts straight.

[QUOTE="SergeAndKid"][QUOTE="3rdbass"]

4 Years KZ2 has only been out Since Feb. of this year. Look it up. LOL. Hey I agree HALO ODST had great sales for an expansion pack but it is Halo and it will sell like hotcakes on name alone like Mario.

TheKingAPop

Killzone 2 is an excellent shooter that had a tremendous amount of hype behind it. Expectations were very high.

ODST is a spinoff in a popular franchise. Again, expectations were very high.

Which one did a better job of delivering on their expectations in terms of sales?

[QUOTE="SergeAndKid"][QUOTE="3rdbass"]

4 Years KZ2 has only been out Since Feb. of this year. Look it up. LOL. Hey I agree HALO ODST had great sales for an expansion pack but it is Halo and it will sell like hotcakes on name alone like Mario.

TheKingAPop

I believe Halo Reach will surpass Halo3. Still impressive numbers for ODST

That's because ODST is a stand alone expansion pack and was hyped far less than Halo 3.

2.2 million in the first few days is still pretty amazing. Most games don't even manage to get 1 million in the first month.

SpinoRaptor24

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

That's because ODST is a stand alone expansion pack and was hyped far less than Halo 3.

2.2 million in the first few days is still pretty amazing. Most games don't even manage to get 1 million in the first month.

angelkimne

Yeah, and I like I just corrected the poster it should be Halo ODST 2.2 million vs. KZ2 2 Million WW. You can't compare NA KZ sales vs. the WW Halo ODST sales. I mean either way KZ2 is not selling as well but who actually expected it to. Not me for sure as the first KZ was a bad game in both reviews and sales. I played both and the second KZ definitely is a lot better game than the first.

[QUOTE="TheKingAPop"][QUOTE="SergeAndKid"] In 4 little months it will be a year since KZ2 came out and it's barely over a million lolz? It should be around 3-4 million by now going by all the Hype and praise it got. Halo ODST doesn't even need to sell as much as Halo 3 anyway, it already sold enough in a week,One week=2.2 million versus a game that's been out for nearly year selling barely over a million?SergeAndKid

Yeah I bet MS is crying about the sales... all the way to the bank.

[QUOTE="SergeAndKid"]

[QUOTE="TheKingAPop"] Didn't seem to be a problem for GeoW 1. Yeah, but Halo is a gigantic brand. It's a phenomenon. Killzone is just an excellent first-person shooter, but not nearly as popular. That's why.TheKingAPop

[QUOTE="TheKingAPop"][QUOTE="SergeAndKid"] Didn't seem to be a problem for GeoW 1

angelkimne

Good day, wise members of System Wars. Here's System Wars' approved sales analyst speaking. Halo 3's first expansion, Halo 3: ODST, has officially managed to sell 2.2 million units in its first week of availability - worldwide.[1] Over 2 million copies in one week is a great accomplishment, but compared to the previous Halo titles, Halo 2 and Halo 3, these numbers are not imposing. It's time to compare the sales of Halo 3 and Halo 3's expansion. While Halo 3: ODST did great by getting sold 2.2 million times to gamers in its first days, Halo 3 did a lot better. More than 31 million Xbox 360s had been sold before Halo 3: ODST launched.[2] It succeded in selling 2.2 million copies after one week on the market, as stated. When Halo 3 launched, however, less than 12 million Xbox 360s had been sold[3], and the mega popular game sold an astonishing 2.5 million units in 24 hours[4] - in the U.S. only, bringing in $170 million in U.S. stores on Tuesday only (September 25th)[5]. The comparison Halo 3: ODST: First-week sales (worldwide): 2.2 million on a 31-million user base. Halo 3: First-day sales (U.S. only): 2.5 million on a ~11.5-million user base. Now, great men of System Wars, do not misunderstand me - I love Halo and am not trying to bash it. I am - in company with my arguments - trying to say that Halo 3: ODST is a sales fiasco. Thoughts, clever members of System Wars? __________________ Sources: [1] - http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=5392&mp=1 [2] - http://www.gamespot.com/news/6216343.html?tag=recent_news;title;5 [3] - http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/more-than-116-million-xbox-360-consoles-sold [4] - http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117982551.html?categoryid=20&cs=1 [5] - http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4188/is_20070927/ai_n21025960/TheKingAPop

Interesting post, but I disagree. While I'm not a Halo fan (I find the game borring, that thats just me), I don't think it's fair to compare the expectations and sales of ODST to Halo 3:

1) Halo 3 was the first Halo game released on the '360. It was also sold as the final chapter in the series, the game that would end it all, tie up the loose end. ODST is a game thats released after the fans know how the story end.

2) The main draw of Halo has always been the multiplayer. ODST contains the exsisting Halo 3 + map packs multiplayer. This means that if you already own Halo 3, the biggest single draw of the title disapears.

3) ODST is not a 'real' halo game in the sense that it dosent continue to story. It's a spin off, which traditionally are a lot less popular. If they were to release a 'StarWars: The story of a handful of unkown rebel soliders' movie, I'd imagine it would be a lot less popular than the original triology.

4) The original plan of releasing ODST as an expansion caused a lot of confusion. While it's been clearly stated that it IS a full length game in it's own right and that the campagin is of a comparitive length to other modern FPS's a lot of people still sneer at ODST for being 'an over priced expansion'.

5) While ODST has had a lot of marketing and commercials, it's been nothing compared to what we saw for Halo 3

[QUOTE="SergeAndKid"]

[QUOTE="TheKingAPop"] Didn't seem to be a problem for GeoW 1. Yeah, but Halo is a gigantic brand. It's a phenomenon. Killzone is just an excellent first-person shooter, but not nearly as popular. That's why.TheKingAPop

[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="TheKingAPop"] Gears of War was the early killer app for the Xbox 360 console... Nevertheless, it doesn't change any facts. Halo: Combat Evolved sold well. Halo 2 sold better. Halo 3 sold better than those. Halo 3: ODST sold... ...less?TheKingAPop

ODST had 20 people working on it, Reach probably has 200...

Besides; "If you thought consumers would shy away for Bungie's latest Halo 3 "expansion" due to the seemingly high $60 price tag, think again.

GameStop said first-day sales were much higher than what they initially expected for Halo 3: ODST, and reported successful midnight launch events for the title.

"While we don't disclose sales figures for individual games, I can say reservations for Halo 3: ODST prior to launch were very strong, and first-day sales exceeded our expectations," said Bob McKenzie, Senior Vice President of Merchandizing for GameStop."

[QUOTE="TheKingAPop"][QUOTE="SergeAndKid"] Didn't seem to be a problem for GeoW 1. Yeah, but Halo is a gigantic brand. It's a phenomenon. Killzone is just an excellent first-person shooter, but not nearly as popular. That's why.KingsMessenger

Nice first post?

P.S. 2.2 million in its first week are amazing sales, regardless of the situation

skinny_man_69

Agreed.

[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"][QUOTE="TheKingAPop"] Didn't seem to be a problem for GeoW 1

SergeAndKid

Halo 3 had a monumental marketing campaign; leaps and bounds far larger than ODST. :SStevo_the_gamer