Halo 3's story was one of the best this gen...

[QUOTE="stepat201"]

Sorry but you can't hide behind the "you didn't get it" excuse. I played all 3 games when they came out and the story was so easy to follow.

It just wasn't very good. It was predictable (black guy sarcrificing himself and dying with a ceesy line? lol) and it just wasn't very intersting. The Halo universe had potential but I don't think they pulled it off in these games.

sSubZerOo

agreed, I can only hope that some day, a talented dev makes a WARHAMMER 40k shooter.

Th disparities between each race will either be a horridly balanced mess or rape established background.

Fire Warrior shows this, the space marines main weapon is supposed to fire what amounts to rapid fire RPGs, its like a machine gun...

Halo has a very good story, if you are willing to read the Fall of Reach, First Strike and Ghosts of Onyx. Without the wider story these novels give you it is no were near as good.

The Hardcore fans will say yes.dream431ca

Yes

Halo 3's story was one of the best this gen...papi_lekker

Really? In my experience I found it clichéd, unoriginal and completely forgettable. And the campaign was mediocre at best.

I have played all 3 Halo games and have paid attention to each one.

Halo's story line is decent, when I played HALO 3 I felt as if Bungie simply gave up near the end.

Metal Gear's story > Halo's.

Halo has a very good story, if you are willing to read the Fall of Reach, First Strike and Ghosts of Onyx. Without the wider story these novels give you it is no were near as good.

redstormrisen

though one can argue we're in it for the game story, not the EU (expanded universe) story. I mean it's like Starcraft, yeah they have books that elaborate a bit on some of the more confusing plot points but that doesn't mean the story in game is confusing.

not only the best but one of the greatest in History

It was a decent story. It didn't rank up there with others that have been released, but it didn't trip over itself or get in the way either. The simple fact that people are insisting that you have to read to novels alongside the game shows that the story wasn't as fleshed out in the game as it could've been. (And these people reading 3 books for 5 hours each better not be the ones complaining about the extended cut-scenes in other games...)

Personally, I would've liked to see the story focus more on the Master Chief's drug addiction, what, with him being so huge and talking to a little blue girl that only he can see...:P

[QUOTE="stepat201"]

Sorry but you can't hide behind the "you didn't get it" excuse. I played all 3 games when they came out and the story was so easy to follow.

It just wasn't very good. It was predictable (black guy sarcrificing himself and dying with a ceesy line? lol) and it just wasn't very intersting. The Halo universe had potential but I don't think they pulled it off in these games.

DrinkDuff

What are you talking about? Compared to Halo 2 and 3 there was hardly anyy plot. No character development at all(where as you can't say the same about the Arbiter, the prophet of Truth, Cortana and the Gravemend) and the story wasn't very complex at all. You land on Halo, it turns out to be a weapon to kill everything and you find a race of alien zombies on it, you blow it up. The end. Halo 2 and 3's story was vastly superior(although the campaign werent).

yes it was epic, but its kinda cool to hate halo 3 so i say "omgwtfbbq it sucked"mingo123

No, it was cool back when everyone liked it. Now your just being a slow troll.

The campaign was good; nothing more, nothing less.

The best story this generation (In my honest opinion) was Mass Effect's.

[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] Are you kidding me? The entire story in general was subpar, circulating around the most unimaginative character I have seen in a while.. A super solider able to take on a billion aliens, wearing moto cross gear, and has the mentality of Rambo.. Ironically enough his first name is John, which was Rambo's first name..sSubZerOo

:lol: Johnson isn't a super soldier. Have you read the books?

Sure sure we can go on about the books.. But thats not the game now is it? Those books were made form independent authors.. Not the devs them selves.. Now you can go on and on about this.. But it clearly says "HALO 3, was one of hte best stories".. Not its novels, not anything.. And from what I have read of the snippets of its novels.. It no where compares to other sci -fi universes such as Warhammer 40k.

Yea why would I read a B Grade Game Novel when I should be seeing this "Awesome Story" told during the game?

Its like the opposite of Baldurs Gate Series, awesome story ingame, but the novels were cheesy and turned everyone into porn stars. I mean seriously....

Games are NOT books, if you rely on books for a games story then the game itself is fail.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="SSCyborg"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] Are you kidding me? The entire story in general was subpar, circulating around the most unimaginative character I have seen in a while.. A super solider able to take on a billion aliens, wearing moto cross gear, and has the mentality of Rambo.. Ironically enough his first name is John, which was Rambo's first name..PC360Wii

:lol: Johnson isn't a super soldier. Have you read the books?

Sure sure we can go on about the books.. But thats not the game now is it? Those books were made form independent authors.. Not the devs them selves.. Now you can go on and on about this.. But it clearly says "HALO 3, was one of hte best stories".. Not its novels, not anything.. And from what I have read of the snippets of its novels.. It no where compares to other sci -fi universes such as Warhammer 40k.

Yea why would I read a B Grade Game Novel when I should be seeing this "Awesome Story" told during the game?

Its like the opposite of Baldurs Gate Series, awesome story ingame, but the novels were cheesy and turned everyone into porn stars. I mean seriously....

Games are NOT books, if you rely on books for a games story then the game itself is fail.

Or you know, you could read them simply out of interest of the story.

And I relaly hope people here arent stupid enough to judge a game quality purely based on it's story.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Not to mention the best and most complex character, The Arbiter was turned into a mindless bot.

SpinoRaptor

Agreed. Arbiter was probably the most interesting character in the Halo series. It's like Bungie forgot about him in Halo 3.

Methinks the strongest and most interesting character in the series, turned into a bot with unlimited respawns pureley for two player coop game design, really ticked me off. Bungie could have easily destroyed menial token characters like the Sergent and *ugh* Mrainda, in exchange for a fleshed out Arbiter.

I guess Bungie wanted to devote it to MC.... but why bother when you have already created an excellent character, and your central one has the personality of a dead fish, however an (interesting) past - that is limited to only Halo lore - completely detached from the game. *sigh*

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Not to mention the best and most complex character, The Arbiter was turned into a mindless bot.

skrat_01

Agreed. Arbiter was probably the most interesting character in the Halo series. It's like Bungie forgot about him in Halo 3.

Methinks the strongest and most interesting character in the series, turned into a bot with unlimited respawns pureley for two player coop game design, really ticked me off. Bungie could have easily destroyed menial token characters like the Sergent and *ugh* Mrainda, in exchange for a fleshed out Arbiter.

I guess Bungie wanted to devote it to MC.... but why bother when you have already created an excellent character, and your central one has the personality of a dead fish, however an (interesting) past - that is limited to only Halo lore - completely detached from the game. *sigh*

Probably because half of the retarded fan base whined about how you werent the chief through out all of Halo 2.

[QUOTE="DrinkDuff"][QUOTE="stepat201"]

Sorry but you can't hide behind the "you didn't get it" excuse. I played all 3 games when they came out and the story was so easy to follow.

It just wasn't very good. It was predictable (black guy sarcrificing himself and dying with a ceesy line? lol) and it just wasn't very intersting. The Halo universe had potential but I don't think they pulled it off in these games.

vashkey

What are you talking about? Compared to Halo 2 and 3 there was hardly anyy plot. No character development at all(where as you can't say the same about the Arbiter, the prophet of Truth, Cortana and the Gravemend) and the story wasn't very complex at all. You land on Halo, it turns out to be a weapon to kill everything and you find a race of alien zombies on it, you blow it up. The end. Halo 2 and 3's story was vastly superior(although the campaign werent).

And soon after it became a massive mess, of what could have been pure awesome-ness, thanks to what has become a trademark poor storytelling.

As for Halo 3.... well.... Those plot holes just got a whole lot deeper.

Its annoying - the lore is all there, and its very very good, but the games never realise it story wise, nor come close to doing it justice.

Though from what I have read of a couple of first chapters of a few books for free online, I was surprised at their quality. The comics ive read that are Halo themed are great. No, really, really good.

Probably because half of the retarded fan base whined about how you werent the chief through out all of Halo 2.

vashkey

What plot holes are you talking about?

I do wish they had went deeper into the whole forerunner thing or the other remaining spartans.

What plot holes are you talking about?

I do wish they had went deeper into the whole forerunner thing or the other remaining spartans.

vashkey

Alot of things were bought up.... and never properly fleshed out or explained.... in the games

I thought it was pretty mediocre, full of cliches, painfully predictable and overall simply uninteresting. Not to mention the horribly amateurish cutscene direction, script and animations. Really, sup-par even by american FPS standards.el_rika

And what would be an excellent 'non american fps' that is widely recognised?

Its hardly a regional thing. ID, Valve, Iward ect. ect. are all North American.... GSC however is easten european

The best story this generation was Mask Of the Betrayer imo. Not quite Planescape Torement but excellent non the less.Kez1984

The game's story was a less-than-stellar conclusion to what I thought was an interesting tale; kept me interested last generation and made me hyped for this title but it was subpar to what it could/should have been.

[QUOTE="tiger35010"]i could say the same about MGS4... but i think halo1 had the best, maybe it was nostalgia but the only thing 2&3 did was multiplayersSubZerOo

Thats the thing though.. Being a fan of neither.. I can at least say from what I have seen of MGS4, it has a much better story with characters you can actually care about.. Halo 3 seems to be a bunch of other characters hijacked form other series.. The Black seargent for instance, was clearly ripped from the guy in Aliens 2.. Hell alot of their gear look nearly the EXACT same.. Then we have Master Chief, a guy that shows no emotion.. You can not see his face, is never given really any moral dilemas in the games.. Personally when playign through with myf riends, I ddi not give a crap what would happen.. I had zero connection to any of the characters..

Maybe you guys need to play some games with real story OTHER then shooters..

U couldnt have said it any better. Its the same problem with what I had with the halo series and as much as I did love the series, sadly it wasnt for its story, it was more because of the online multiplayer. Halo couldve had an amazing story if they were going by the novel but it seemed what they created for gamers was obviously just showing the strengths it has online with its multiplayer. Its not a bad thing but if u look at it, if the story's were done right, this would be one of the best series of all time. Too bad MS was more worried of just milking the franchise instead of making it a masterpiece it couldve been.

Metal Gears story >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Halo's story

personally, my favorite story is the metal gear story, it has everything.

i liked call of duty 4 story much more then halo's...

The campaign was better than I expectedDivergeUnify

I enjoyed the game. Not one of the best story's I ever played in a game, but easily the best FPS storyarc I played.

nope metal gear solid 4 beat halo3 with its story this gen and even GTA 4 beat halo3 in storysilverammo

Metal Gears story >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Halo's story

personally, my favorite story is the metal gear story, it has everything.

i liked call of duty 4 story much more then halo's...

Postal_Guy

so....neither of you guys were able to read the topic title? because you both failed.

The campaign was better than I expectedDivergeUnify

allot of people were complaining how halo 3's story didnt deliver the goods. well, all i have to say, you either didnt get it or didnt pay attention to the previous 2 games. its for the hardcore fans in mind. its all about the characters in halo 3, where they end up. character development usually begins over a period of times. you didnt play halo 2's campaign?(wich probably 50% of the people didnt), you missed out so much. check out my 20min summurized halo 3 story http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccQGf55rhMs

it just shows how brilliant the game is, and how MC sarcrificed himself for humankind...

edit: link was FUBAR, its fixed nowpapi_lekker

And this is why you have to be 13+ to post on gamespot......

[QUOTE="silverammo"]nope metal gear solid 4 beat halo3 with its story this gen and even GTA 4 beat halo3 in storyDreams-Visions

Metal Gears story >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Halo's story

personally, my favorite story is the metal gear story, it has everything.

i liked call of duty 4 story much more then halo's...

Postal_Guy

so....neither of you guys were able to read the topic title? because you both failed.

allot of people were complaining how halo 3's story didnt deliver the goods. well, all i have to say, you either didnt get it or didnt pay attention to the previous 2 games. its for the hardcore fans in mind. its all about the characters in halo 3, where they end up. character development usually begins over a period of times. you didnt play halo 2's campaign?(wich probably 50% of the people didnt), you missed out so much. check out my 20min summurized halo 3 story http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccQGf55rhMs

it just shows how brilliant the game is, and how MC sarcrificed himself for humankind...

edit: link was FUBAR, its fixed nowpapi_lekker

Story is sub-average.

Developed Characters in Halo series?LOL

[QUOTE="Kez1984"]The best story this generation was Mask Of the Betrayer imo. Not quite Planescape Torement but excellent non the less.skrat_01

It's alot different from NWN2, darker, harder, better optimised, better weapon crafting, better story, better art direction, everything is just "better".

if you think the story was subpar, well then you probably have.......

never played the first two games

or

beat it on easy or normal as soon as you got it

if you think the story was subpar, well then you probably have.......

never played the first two games

or

beat it on easy or normal as soon as you got it

nickmat_tycoon

I have beat them all on heroic solo, legendary co-op.

I also have a toy rocket warthog with mini Spartans........

The universes lore is great, Halo 2 and 3s stories were totally messed up, and in quite a few aspects terrible, due to a number of reasons that I have rambled about above. If its any consolidation i thought Bioshock commited story suicide after 'meeting Andrew Ryan'.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Kez1984"]The best story this generation was Mask Of the Betrayer imo. Not quite Planescape Torement but excellent non the less.Kez1984

It's alot different from NWN2, darker, harder, better optimised, better weapon crafting, better story, better art direction, everything is just "better".

[QUOTE="stepat201"]

Sorry but you can't hide behind the "you didn't get it" excuse. I played all 3 games when they came out and the story was so easy to follow.

It just wasn't very good. It was predictable (black guy sarcrificing himself and dying with a ceesy line? lol) and it just wasn't very intersting. The Halo universe had potential but I don't think they pulled it off in these games.

CreepyBacon

Shows how much you played cause he never sacrificed himself. :|

He got killed yes but he never, dived in front and took a bullet or whatever the hell you think happened, he just got caught off guard and killed.

The story was great, far better than *most* first person shooters, the people that disagree are purely just haters of the 360 or the series, like the guy above me, shouting off his mouth when he has no clue.

I'll repeat it: For a first person shooter, the story was great. Most first person shooters have little to no story.

Hate the 360? I own one and love it. I do hate Halo though. Is it impossible to own a 360 and hate Halo these days? :roll:

From what I could see,the monitor was coming at master chief and said some cheesy line and then Johnson stood up and said something like "not if I can help it". He then get's shot by the monitor and falls down and then you take his Spartan Laser and proceed to play out the lamest boss fight I've seen in a shooter.

"Send me out with a bang..." :lol:

if you think the story was subpar, well then you probably have.......

never played the first two games

or

beat it on easy or normal as soon as you got it

nickmat_tycoon

I thought the story was subpar. I had played the first two games many times before the third came out and I still thought the game was lackluster.

Also, difficulty doesn't change what the story is aside from the video at the end which is unlocked through beating legendary. That's it, and it isn't enough to change the fact that the game didn't have a good final installment story-wise.