Halo 4 dropped from MLG like hot garbage: BLOPS2 superiority confirmed

[QUOTE="Basinboy"]

Participated in MLG back in the Halo days and while I'm not likely the best candidate to opine about which shooters are the most respectable, Halo 4 is the least interesting/competitive of the online MP Halo games. But then again, I thought Reach was either the best or second only to Halo 2 and apparently MLG outlawed it as well, so eh.

Ly_the_Fairy

Halo 4 is way more balanced than Halo Reach was.

Eww Halo Reach

Yup, its true.

If you exclude the Boltshot, Ordnance drops, no health bar, and even more OP DMR.

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

[QUOTE="Basinboy"]

Participated in MLG back in the Halo days and while I'm not likely the best candidate to opine about which shooters are the most respectable, Halo 4 is the least interesting/competitive of the online MP Halo games. But then again, I thought Reach was either the best or second only to Halo 2 and apparently MLG outlawed it as well, so eh.

Obviously_Right

Halo 4 is way more balanced than Halo Reach was.

Eww Halo Reach

Yup, its true.

If you exclude the Boltshot, Ordnance drops, no health bar, and even more OP DMR.

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

[QUOTE="Basinboy"]

Participated in MLG back in the Halo days and while I'm not likely the best candidate to opine about which shooters are the most respectable, Halo 4 is the least interesting/competitive of the online MP Halo games. But then again, I thought Reach was either the best or second only to Halo 2 and apparently MLG outlawed it as well, so eh.

Obviously_Right

Halo 4 is way more balanced than Halo Reach was.

Eww Halo Reach

Yup, its true.

If you exclude the Boltshot, Ordnance drops, no health bar, and even more OP DMR.

Neither the bolt shot, or the DMR are OP.

No health bar doesn't really mean anything in terms of balance.

Ordinance drops I can definitely agree with, but they don't come near close to the imbalance of armor abilities in Reach.

lol MLG :lol: :lol:

[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

Halo 4 is way more balanced than Halo Reach was.

Eww Halo Reach

DarkLink77

Yup, its true.

If you exclude the Boltshot, Ordnance drops, no health bar, and even more OP DMR.

Black Ops 2 sucks, ha-ha. Why even try with this post?

lol @ halonabs saying MLG is a joke, Halo is a joke, MLG is as big as it's ever been, they got their act together, they focus on games like Starcraft and League of Legends now.

People that dismiss esports don't realize how fast and hard it's growing, and the future will only become more digital, more virtual, it's keeps getting bigger and bigger.

Season 2 LoL finals had like 8 million viewers total, that's just insane, it's mroe then a lot of sporting events. LoL alone has more people watching streams on a daily basis then playing Halo online. Think about that for a second.

And before you ignorant nerds start calling people that like esports nerds rememebr where you are and what you're hobby is. Anyone that's ever been seriously addicted in a competitive game has always enjoyed watching the best of the best play said game.

Eddie-Vedder

[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

Halo 4 is way more balanced than Halo Reach was.

Eww Halo Reach

Ly_the_Fairy

Yup, its true.

If you exclude the Boltshot, Ordnance drops, no health bar, and even more OP DMR.

Neither the bolt shot, or the DMR are OP

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

Yup, its true.

If you exclude the Boltshot, Ordnance drops, no health bar, and even more OP DMR.

TheDidact

Neither the bolt shot, or the DMR are OP

Crack.

I basically never play MP games. Interesting that adding more mobility and freedom make the game more casual. I guess I kind of understand it, as it makes it tougher to develop strategies, but still.

Sushiglutton

Actually the ordinance drops influence competitve gameplay the most, but you pretty much need to be good at using most of the weapons dropped by ordinance to actually benefit from ordinance drops.Their are some ridiculously powerful guns or grenades in loadouts which is a problem.

[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]

I basically never play MP games. Interesting that adding more mobility and freedom make the game more casual. I guess I kind of understand it, as it makes it tougher to develop strategies, but still.

super600

Actually the ordinance drops influence competitve gameplay the most, but you pretty much need to be good at using most of the weapons dropped by ordinance to actually benefit from ordinance drops.Their are some ridiculously powerful guns or grenades in loadouts which is a problem.

I've seen that happen once. It was not pretty.

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]

I basically never play MP games. Interesting that adding more mobility and freedom make the game more casual. I guess I kind of understand it, as it makes it tougher to develop strategies, but still.

DarkLink77

Actually the ordinance drops influence competitve gameplay the most, but you pretty much need to be good at using most of the weapons dropped by ordinance to actually benefit from ordinance drops.Their are some ridiculously powerful guns or grenades in loadouts which is a problem.

I've seen that happen once. It was not pretty.

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]

I basically never play MP games. Interesting that adding more mobility and freedom make the game more casual. I guess I kind of understand it, as it makes it tougher to develop strategies, but still.

DarkLink77

Actually the ordinance drops influence competitve gameplay the most, but you pretty much need to be good at using most of the weapons dropped by ordinance to actually benefit from ordinance drops.Their are some ridiculously powerful guns or grenades in loadouts which is a problem.

I've seen that happen once. It was not pretty.

My experience is from being killed when I had an ordinance weapon.Their are some weapons I suck at using like the sniper rifle and I pretty much get destroyed the instant I attempt to use that ordinance weapon.

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"][QUOTE="Riadon2"]

MLG... lol...

Let's see them play a game of CS 1.6 or Quake Live

seanmcloughlin

From what I hear 1.6 is still the best/ No point getting with the times if the older version is better.

Then again I've never played a CS game in my life, despite loving FPS games. CS is intimidating

I regularly play all three. Lately I've been playing more of GO, because I likes the pretty (relatively) graphics, and I've really come to enjoy a lot of the new maps, but 1.6 is still extremely playable, highly polished, and definitely has the best of the best players. Also, still the most popluated, by far. With source and GO, there's usually plenty of servers with plenty of people, but there are also downtimes where it might get as low as like 3 or 4 regular (non-custom) full servers. Load up the server list in 1.6, and there's several dozen full servers, with spectators waiting in line, all day, every day, without fail.

[QUOTE="TheDidact"][QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

Neither the bolt shot, or the DMR are OPObviously_Right

Crack.

You two should realize the DMR has the exact same kill time as every other primary weapon (technically the Light Rifle can be faster or slower depending on zoom), but suffers a greater penalty per missed shot.

You might do better with the DMR in comparison to all other weapons, but it's out of preference. I personally use the carbine, and storm rifle most of the time.

You guys saying the bolt shot is OP is literally the first time I've ever heard that since Halo 4's existence. I'm not sure why you think that.

Don't care about MLG (lol) and don't care about Halo. And even if I did care about Halo, this still would literally mean nothing.

[QUOTE="Basinboy"]

Participated in MLG back in the Halo days and while I'm not likely the best candidate to opine about which shooters are the most respectable, Halo 4 is the least interesting/competitive of the online MP Halo games. But then again, I thought Reach was either the best or second only to Halo 2 and apparently MLG outlawed it as well, so eh.

Ly_the_Fairy

Halo 4 is way more balanced than Halo Reach was.

Eww Halo Reach

lolno.

Halo 4 is the worst, most unbalanced Halo game to date.

Yeah, the single player was great but I don't like the multiplayer. Halo 3 still has the best multiplayer. Ill be crushed when they shut that down..

Halo 3 still has the best multiplayer.

VendettaRed07

QFT.

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]

I basically never play MP games. Interesting that adding more mobility and freedom make the game more casual. I guess I kind of understand it, as it makes it tougher to develop strategies, but still.

DarkLink77

Actually the ordinance drops influence competitve gameplay the most, but you pretty much need to be good at using most of the weapons dropped by ordinance to actually benefit from ordinance drops.Their are some ridiculously powerful guns or grenades in loadouts which is a problem.

I've seen that happen once. It was not pretty.

I've seen 3 Splasers on the enemy team before.

BTB is not playable if something like that is possible....

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

To be fair, nobody comes to GS to watch E-Sports, you should try Spooky Team on TwichTV for fighters and GomTV or NASL TV for Starcraft 2, at least that's what i follow, viwers numbers never hit the millions, but they alwaus have a consistant audience that allows the crew and the players to continue, is not as big as i would liked to be, but is no joke either.

Truth_Hurts_U

Sure it is... I was playing mech warrior durning the day they were doing twitchTV with devs and top players. They were playing the most OP specs that the dev's said they were going to nerf.

Pretty safe to say we got mopped. But I got the only kill. Not bad for having 4 people focus train you with unbalanced weapon builds.

I liked arena on old G4... They played 3 or 4 games in a show and it was fun to watch. No drama... Just pure fun.

Fun will always be there, i'll go back to the Figthing Community since that's what i follow the most, and every once in a while they come up with some sort of crazy event, like playing random games from the past, one day they played that old and terrible Star Wars fighting game for the PS1, it was hilarious, you don't always need the drama to have fun and E-Sports are aware of that, still there is nothing like a great match between to great players figthing over a price, it get's really fun too.

MLG is a joke. SAGE_OF_FIRE

it's not that at all, it's that 343 didn't want to collaborate and help with customs. MLG v1 was still really good. they just couldn't add some things. I think it has a chance to come back, 343 just didn't watn to do enough. This game is much better than reach, the community knows that tooMicrosoft1234

nope.

the community is slowly coming to the realization that Reach wasn't as bad as they previously thought. Anyone who frequents the Halowaypoint forums can see this.

And it's probably because Reach is a lot closer to being a 'true' Halo game. Halo 4 takes a lot of things Reach did wrong and mixes a bunch of bad COD elements in.

If you actually think Halo 4 MP is better....loldelusion.

[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"]it's not that at all, it's that 343 didn't want to collaborate and help with customs. MLG v1 was still really good. they just couldn't add some things. I think it has a chance to come back, 343 just didn't watn to do enough. This game is much better than reach, the community knows that tooHavocV3

nope.

the community is slowly coming to the realization that Reach wasn't as bad as they previously thought. Anyone who frequents the Halowaypoint forums can see this.

And it's probably because Reach is a lot closer to being a 'true' Halo game. Halo 4 takes a lot of things Reach did wrong and mixes a bunch of bad COD elements in.

If you actually think Halo 4 MP is better....loldelusion.

Halo 4 took elements like armor abilities, and balanced them, and what's great is they incorporated similar functionalities to Halo 3's equipment into some of them which is a major plus.

Loadouts from CoD are a very welcome change to Halo. In all the time I've played Halo 4 I've never once spawned in the middle of nowhere with nothing, but an assault rifle and a plasma pistol as people rained death upon me with battle rifles. That feels terrific.

I can easily agree to ordinances being terrible as any type of random chance is bad for competitive games, but I've only seen one game, out of hundreds, where the enemy team found themselves equipped with an arsenal of power weapons. I wish ordinances were gone, but I don't think they compare to the share broken-ness of Halo Reach's armor abilities.

It also sucks that Halo 4 is at it's most balanced if every single person playing has unlocked every specialization, but it's not the most major thing.

Personally I'd play Halo 3 for the rest of my life if the community stayed big enough. Sadly it didn't, but Halo 4 is very welcome change over Reach to me, and my friends. It went from playing thousands of hours across Halo 1, 2 and 3, to being disgusted by Reach, and now we're all playing Halo 4 again.

[QUOTE="Riadon2"]

MLG... lol...

Let's see them play a game of CS 1.6 or Quake Live

DrTrafalgarLaw

it's not that at all, it's that 343 didn't want to collaborate and help with customs. MLG v1 was still really good. they just couldn't add some things. I think it has a chance to come back, 343 just didn't watn to do enough. This game is much better than reach, the community knows that tooMicrosoft1234

Nah, atleast Reach had map control for power weapons, with Halo 4 your team doesn't even matter.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

You try too hard.

Goyoshi12

And he got so far, but in the end.....it doesn't even matter.

As an MLG gamer I can confirm this. Halo 4 takes no skill.

PhazonBlazer

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"][QUOTE="Riadon2"]

MLG... lol...

Let's see them play a game of CS 1.6 or Quake Live

seanmcloughlin

From what I hear 1.6 is still the best/ No point getting with the times if the older version is better.

Then again I've never played a CS game in my life, despite loving FPS games. CS is intimidating

Oh seriously.

The love for 1.6 is beyond stupid. It's just that 1.6 fanboys rote learned everything about the game and couldn't even adjust to a few physics changes. It's the only fanbase that actually b!tches about subtle changes

Wait people play COD competitively? Halo:CE will always hold the title of first Console game to be played at MLG. walkingdream

>console gamers playing profesinally
HAHAHAHAHAHAH

MLG is for brogamers anyways. Even the game with the most rep that they currently host (Starcraft 2) shows a lack of top players.

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[QUOTE="Vatusus"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I don't recall anyone here ever making that argument. I certainly haven't.DarkLink77

I do. In a Halo vs Killzone thread a while ago. I'm too lazy to find it but take my word on it. Actually, knowing SW is not that hard to believe in my word.

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sonic1564

[QUOTE="sonic1564"]

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Eddie-Vedder

Both of you

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"][QUOTE="sonic1564"]

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HarlockJC

Both of you

[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

You try too hard.

jessejay420

And he got so far, but in the end.....it doesn't even matter.

Haha.

Nice.

So why are the cows laughing? It is not like any PS3 games have ever been a major game in MLG. Halo has been in MLG for years unlike any PS3 exclusive. It even shows when they are celebrating about CoD a game that is not only multiplat but one that sells better on the 360. CanYouDiglt