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#301 peterw007
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[QUOTE="Pikachu69er"]

[QUOTE="Spartan070"] :lol::lol::lol: You must be joking...Spartan070

Pokemon Black and White has sold 14million and has been out for only a year, reach has been out for a year and a half and is only 8m

Are you comparing the prequel fanfare that is Reach to a core Halo installment?Reach was only done to satisfy the 6-game commitment Bungie made with Microsoft, along with Halo Wars and ODST.Check the attach-rate of Halo 1, 2 and 3, the core installments.

Halo Wars was developed by Ensemble Studios before their dissolution.

Bungie had nothing to do with it.

Are you sure Bungie really had a 6-game commitment to Microsoft?

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#302 Pikachu69er
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[QUOTE="Pikachu69er"]

[QUOTE="Spartan070"] :lol::lol::lol: You must be joking...Spartan070

Pokemon Black and White has sold 14million and has been out for only a year, reach has been out for a year and a half and is only 8m

Are you comparing the prequel fanfare that is Reach to a core Halo installment? Reach was only done to satisfy the 6-game commitment Bungie made with Microsoft, along with Halo Wars and ODST. Check the attach-rate of Halo 1, 2 and 3, the core installments.

Fine, halo 3 has been out for 5 year's and pokemon black and white outsold it in 1 year

want more??

diamond and pearl came out in 2007 and has sold 18m while halo 3 sold around 12m

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#303 Spartan070
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[QUOTE="peterw007"]

[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="Pikachu69er"]

Pokemon Black and White has sold 14million and has been out for only a year, reach has been out for a year and a half and is only 8m

Are you comparing the prequel fanfare that is Reach to a core Halo installment? Reach was only done to satisfy the 6-game commitment Bungie made with Microsoft, along with Halo Wars and ODST. Check the attach-rate of Halo 1, 2 and 3, the core installments.

Halo Wars was developed by Ensemble Studios before their dissolution.

Bungie had nothing to do with it.

Are you sure Bungie really had a 6-game commitment to Microsoft?

I don't have that iron-clad but I remember hearing about it often. Would have to do some research to get the exact figures but there was plenty of rhetoric about it on Bungie's online community boards for some time, the 7th Co7umn
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#304 Spartan070
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[QUOTE="Pikachu69er"]

[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="Pikachu69er"]

Pokemon Black and White has sold 14million and has been out for only a year, reach has been out for a year and a half and is only 8m

Are you comparing the prequel fanfare that is Reach to a core Halo installment? Reach was only done to satisfy the 6-game commitment Bungie made with Microsoft, along with Halo Wars and ODST. Check the attach-rate of Halo 1, 2 and 3, the core installments.

Fine, halo 3 has been out for 5 year's and pokemon black and white outsold it in 1 year

want more??

diamond and pearl came out in 2007 and has sold 18m while halo 3 sold around 12m

Lol are you the sales rep. for Pokemon or something? There are far more DS out there than there are 360s, does that not factor in?
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#305 Pikachu69er
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[QUOTE="Pikachu69er"]

[QUOTE="Spartan070"] Are you comparing the prequel fanfare that is Reach to a core Halo installment? Reach was only done to satisfy the 6-game commitment Bungie made with Microsoft, along with Halo Wars and ODST. Check the attach-rate of Halo 1, 2 and 3, the core installments.Spartan070

Fine, halo 3 has been out for 5 year's and pokemon black and white outsold it in 1 year

want more??

diamond and pearl came out in 2007 and has sold 18m while halo 3 sold around 12m

Lol are you the sales rep. for Pokemon or something? There are far more DS out there than there are 360s, does that not factor in?

Diamond and pearl debuted when there was only 22m ds's sold, and black and white came out when the ds install base has died, eg how nintendo games that release on the wii from 2011 onwards don't sell as well as they would back in 2008

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#306 Spartan070
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[QUOTE="Pikachu69er"]

[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="Pikachu69er"]

Fine, halo 3 has been out for 5 year's and pokemon black and white outsold it in 1 year

want more??

diamond and pearl came out in 2007 and has sold 18m while halo 3 sold around 12m

Lol are you the sales rep. for Pokemon or something? There are far more DS out there than there are 360s, does that not factor in?

Diamond and pearl debuted when there was only 22m ds's sold, and black and white came out when the ds install base has died, eg how nintendo games that release on the wii from 2011 onwards don't sell as well as they would back in 2008

So are you telling me that Diamond and Pearl sold 18m units to a fixed install base of 22m DS customers? Did the DS base not grow far beyond 22m as Diamond and Pearl sold?
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#307 g0ddyX
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Hot. I bet the game will be hotter than any Wii:U game upcoming ;)

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#308 greensand24
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[QUOTE="gpuking"]Is this what the OMG leaving my jaws on the floor, almost nextgen xbox720 graphics screens all about? Sigh, do people have low expectation of Halo's graphics these days...Reiko2K1

Well it looks noticeablly better than Killzone 3...

Easily! Lol @ cows clinging to killzone 3
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#309 gpuking
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The level of detail is higher. Add to that better IQ (720p plus FXAA) Lighting is beautiful. Reiko2K1
I'm not sure if you played KZ3 or not but the level of detail is insanely high for a console game, not to mention hundreds of light sources, particle, and that AR looks to have much higher polys than Chief's too. Also human models are definitely more detailed in KZ3 alright.

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#310 R3FURBISHED
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I'm not sure if you played KZ3 or not but the level of detail is insanely high for a console game, not to mention hundreds of light sources, particle, and that AR looks to have much higher polys than Chief's too. Also human models are definitely more detailed in KZ3 alright.

gpuking

Guerilla shouldn't have made them into space nazis - and ruined the most developed characters in that game of horrid characters. Great gameplay though

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#311 Bus-A-Bus
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[QUOTE="Reiko2K1"]The level of detail is higher. Add to that better IQ (720p plus FXAA) Lighting is beautiful. gpuking

I'm not sure if you played KZ3 or not but the level of detail is insanely high for a console game, not to mention hundreds of light sources, particle, and that AR looks to have much higher polys than Chief's too. Also human models are definitely more detailed in KZ3 alright.

You are comparing blurry, upscaled scan from magazin showing interior and direct feed, downscaled KZ3 shoot from outside. Why? Whats the point? You think Halo 4 won't have crazy amount of dynamic lights duo to engine being DR? Or that it won't have hundreds of particles that are in fact higher res than KZ3s? You think Halo 4 won't be more expansive game with more AI on screen and far bigger fights? Just stop it already, thats BR that Chief has actually.

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#312 mems_1224
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noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! i want armor lock back in. easily the best ability
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#313 DmanHalo
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Two armor abilities? Sprint + Evade = Wheeeee!
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#314 jg4xchamp
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noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! i want armor lock back in. easily the best abilitymems_1224
Stop joking. That's not funny.
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#315 WTA2k5
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No More Respawn Delay

Thefatness16

Uh-oh.

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#316 GOGOGOGURT
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[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

Strongly disagree.
Halo is starting to be modernized and influenced by call of duty. It still is very unique shooter, but I hope they halt the mainstreaming.

I am very afraid "for HALO".

freedomfreak


Wha?

Fixed

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#317 HaloPimp978
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I do have problems with them getting rid of Firefight though, I loved it in ODST yet despised it in Reach simply because it is used for Credit Farming. But if Firefight is being replaced by Spartan Ops I expect it to be a suitable replacement. I hope this doesn't Fail like Reach did. I love Halo and it's story. But right now I'm 50/50 because some changes I don't understand or like while others I love. I love that I can choose Primary loadouts like the AR, BR, and my favorite DMR. Yet I'm sad I can no longer choose to play as an Elite in Multiplayer. I hope there are very good reasons for everything that is changing or I'll be a very said Halo fan.

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#318 Bardock47
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My God Halo fanboys are the worst.

JMR09

Biodrones would like to have a word with you.

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#319 Bardock47
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! i want armor lock back in. easily the best abilityjg4xchamp
Stop joking. That's not funny.

I dont understand the **** about armor lock, it was hella easy to counter.

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#320 Bardock47
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The idea that Halo is suddenly going to become COD is bullcrap. None of us have played the game. We don't know anything else besides what this article gives us, and even then there's not a whole lot of context given. We haven't seen much actual gameplay. I'd say just to wait until there's more info before going this crazy over it. Then again, I live in the same world where some gamers feel the need to take devs to court over game endings. Expect everything I guess. :roll:FireSpirit117
Firefight is removed, FIREFIGHT NO LONGER HAS A DEDICATED GAMEMODE! Thats like, if Black Ops 2 shipped without zombies. Its pretty obvious alot of these changes are taking a cue from CoD, no we don't know alot, but the stuff we do know isn't looking good till fully explained. Currently, I (as well as others obviously) do not like the look of the Halo we have come to knw and love for the past ten years. And this isn't similar to ME3 ending thing at all really, its ust hell rasing over **** changes.

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#321 RoslindaleOne
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My problem is minor, but it's still bugging me though. I don't like the color of the bullet indicator on the BR. I like the darker background with the blue numbers.
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#322 Fizzman
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Removal of map control is dumb. 343 is attempting to placate the cry babies who never got rockets because they never remembered respawn times.

Halo is going down the COD route. Such a shame that almost every single FPS is basically attempting to be COD. Really hoped that Halo would buck the trend, but it looks like the perks that were released in Reach was just the beginning of CODification. I guess it makes sense for 343 since they need to have a hit and so therefore they are copying COD to the letter.

Multiplayer in Halo was 40% skill/20% map control and 40% teamwork. Now its looking like its going to be a lone wolf fest with instant respawning. I am expecting the gun play to feel like COD aswell.

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#323 walkingdream
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[QUOTE="Thefatness16"]

No More Respawn Delay

WTA2k5

Uh-oh.

In other game modes there will be a delay.
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#324 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! i want armor lock back in. easily the best abilityBardock47

Stop joking. That's not funny.

I dont understand the **** about armor lock, it was hella easy to counter.

On certain maps it was the end all, be all ability(like sword base and reflection, since you could lock down key spots all day). That and frankly it was over done. The other abilities felt like you gave up something, or gained a glaring issue because of it. Armor lock? yeah you lost mobiliy, but on the flipside you're indestructible when you need it, and if you have a team that's even remotely competent you bait and switch all day.

Without armor lock the game flows better(at least from my experience in arena/custom games). People take more chances with the other abilities, and drop shield was a much better alternative(from a balance standpoint, in slayer, in objective that added its own annoyance).

I'd put armor lock in the same category as Halo 3's br. Sure you could argue everyone has access to it, but it borderline crippled every other element of the game. Why bother even going for some weapons when the BR rapes all. Same scenario with armor lock. Why bother with other sh1t? That and I thought armor lock was b1tch status so I didn't use it on principle.

But meh, I was able to dig the Halo multiplayers inspite of that stuff. The solo play for these games suck though.

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#325 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! i want armor lock back in. easily the best abilityBardock47

Stop joking. That's not funny.

I dont understand the **** about armor lock, it was hella easy to counter.

yea it really is, but when you learn how to use it and have some good teammates its really deadly too. easily the best ability. if anything jetpacks are more game breaking and annoying than armor lock is
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#326 Spartan070
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! i want armor lock back in. easily the best abilityBardock47

Stop joking. That's not funny.

I dont understand the **** about armor lock, it was hella easy to counter.

This, it was no where near the cheapest ability. jetpack was far cheaper
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#327 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="Thefatness16"]

No More Respawn Delay

WTA2k5

Uh-oh.

They already clarified it will be in game modes which make sense, objective game modes will still have delays.
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#328 789shadow
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[QUOTE="Bardock47"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] Stop joking. That's not funny. jg4xchamp

I dont understand the **** about armor lock, it was hella easy to counter.

On certain maps it was the end all, be all ability(like sword base and reflection, since you could lock down key spots all day). That and frankly it was over done. The other abilities felt like you gave up something, or gained a glaring issue because of it. Armor lock? yeah you lost mobiliy, but on the flipside you're indestructible when you need it, and if you have a team that's even remotely competent you bait and switch all day.

Without armor lock the game flows better(at least from my experience in arena/custom games). People take more chances with the other abilities, and drop shield was a much better alternative(from a balance standpoint, in slayer, in objective that added its own annoyance).

I'd put armor lock in the same category as Halo 3's br. Sure you could argue everyone has access to it, but it borderline crippled every other element of the game. Why bother even going for some weapons when the BR rapes all. Same scenario with armor lock. Why bother with other sh1t? That and I thought armor lock was b1tch status so I didn't use it on principle.

But meh, I was able to dig the Halo multiplayers inspite of that stuff. The solo play for these games suck though.

Jetpack is just as broken as Armor Lock. Certain maps, like Uncaged, are just completely broken by Jetpack. Also, Active Camo. It works far better as a pick up than an on-tap ability. Camo Snipers/Shotguns/Power Weapons in general are dreadful.

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#329 Bus-A-Bus
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Hmm hmm...

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#330 Spartan070
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Hmm hmm...

*epicsauce*

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#331 SaltyMeatballs
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Graphics king confirmed.
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#332 lbjkurono23
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Meh!.. space marines.
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#333 PAL360
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^nice pics!

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#334 Cherokee_Jack
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Resembles Dead Space.
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#335 Jonwh18
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not to be a hater but could we see some action shots please? Its great and all to say a game looks good at a standstill but when things heat up is when it counts.

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#336 Spartan070
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not to be a hater but could we see some action shots please? Its great and all to say a game looks good at a standstill but when things heat up is when it counts.

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It's early, these are just teasers till E3.