Halo 4's Spartan Ops - 50 missions free over 10 weeks

Honestly, I don't like the idea of this.

Halo 4 probably have used all DVD's space, so they have to use DLC to push more content to my 20GB hard drive? No thanks, I'll give it a miss. Not good enough.

This goes to show just how necessary the Blu-ray is.

GamerwillzPS

Cool, still pissed about lack of a dedicated firefight mode though.

Honestly, I don't like the idea of this.

Halo 4 probably have used all DVD's space, so they have to use DLC to push more content to my 20GB hard drive? No thanks, I'll give it a miss. Not good enough.

This goes to show just how necessary the Blu-ray is.

GamerwillzPS

:? That makes so little logical sense it's astounding.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Honestly, I don't like the idea of this.

Halo 4 probably have used all DVD's space, so they have to use DLC to push more content to my 20GB hard drive? No thanks, I'll give it a miss. Not good enough.

This goes to show just how necessary the Blu-ray is.

Ravensmash

The Xbox 360 lacks upgradeable hard drive. This could cause big problems.

Yet another mistake made by Microsoft.

Sounds good, but 50 missions = 12 hours? They must be very short missions.Ninja-Hippo

Cool, still pissed about lack of a dedicated firefight mode though.

Bardock47

I've never seen so many jelly cows in one thread.JohnnyCageMK

Honestly, I don't like the idea of this.

Halo 4 probably have used all DVD's space, so they have to use DLC to push more content to my 20GB hard drive? No thanks, I'll give it a miss. Not good enough.

This goes to show just how necessary the Blu-ray is.

GamerwillzPS

My broken 360 was 20GB as well, that ran out real fast. I'm debating about getting a new 360 or not, but don't know if it's worth dropping $300 for, and XBL isn't worth it to me, maybe if I find it cheaper somewhere like $20 for a year or whatever like some Lems say you can. But even then I'm not really paying for anything I'm not getting on PSN aside from cross game chat. Which I can live without.

Next gen the Xbox will have Blu Ray, it's necessary this gen and it will no doubt be necessary next gen. Funny how 360 owners bash it but next gen they will love it. 360 has some good games, but I don't know if it's worth getting a 360 without XBL. Is halo even worth owning without it? That is my dilemma.

Wow, people are really trying to spin this like it's a bad thing. lolFireSpirit117

Storage on the Xbox 360 have proved how big of a problem this could cause, especially the non-upgradeable hard drive.

DVD + non-upgradeable hard drive = Nightmare.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Honestly, I don't like the idea of this.

Halo 4 probably have used all DVD's space, so they have to use DLC to push more content to my 20GB hard drive? No thanks, I'll give it a miss. Not good enough.

This goes to show just how necessary the Blu-ray is.

My broken 360 was 20GB as well, that ran out real fast. I'm debating about getting a new 360 or not, but don't know if it's worth dropping $300 for, and XBL isn't worth it to me, maybe if I find it cheaper somewhere like $20 for a year or whatever like some Lems say you can. But even then I'm not really paying for anything I'm not getting on PSN aside from cross game chat. Which I can live without.

Next gen the Xbox will have Blu Ray, it's necessary this gen and it will no doubt be necessary next gen. Funny how 360 owners bash it but next gen they will love it. 360 has some good games, but I don't know if it's worth getting a 360 without XBL. Is halo even worth owning without it? That is my dilemma.

[QUOTE="FireSpirit117"]Wow, people are really trying to spin this like it's a bad thing. lolGamerwillzPS

Storage on the Xbox 360 have proved how big of a problem this could cause, especially the non-upgradeable hard drive.

DVD + non-upgradeable hard drive = Nightmare.

[QUOTE="FireSpirit117"]Wow, people are really trying to spin this like it's a bad thing. lolGamerwillzPS

Storage on the Xbox 360 have proved how big of a problem this could cause, especially the non-upgradeable hard drive.

DVD + non-upgradeable hard drive = Nightmare.

To clarify for the idiots why this is not on disc:

343i announced that Spartan Ops will be released in a weekly episodic format. It's goal is to encourage players to continue playing Halo 4 rather than shelving it or selling it to Gamespot. Missions will be released on a time frame so that players can't run through the entirety of a season within a few days, leaving the bored and restless until the next season starts.

Placing the data on the disc means most players will have beaten it within 1 or 2 weeks. To stop that, the content is released digitally at the start of every week (or possible every day) Players log on for a bit, complete the mission, log off and tune in the next day to do the same.

This has less to do with being a bait-and-switch tactic or because of DVD. It's how Spartan Ops is designed to implemented. Anything else would completely run opposite of the goals of the game mode.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Honestly, I don't like the idea of this.

Halo 4 probably have used all DVD's space, so they have to use DLC to push more content to my 20GB hard drive? No thanks, I'll give it a miss. Not good enough.

This goes to show just how necessary the Blu-ray is.

ShadowMoses900

My broken 360 was 20GB as well, that ran out real fast. I'm debating about getting a new 360 or not, but don't know if it's worth dropping $300 for, and XBL isn't worth it to me, maybe if I find it cheaper somewhere like $20 for a year or whatever like some Lems say you can. But even then I'm not really paying for anything I'm not getting on PSN aside from cross game chat. Which I can live without.

Next gen the Xbox will have Blu Ray, it's necessary this gen and it will no doubt be necessary next gen. Funny how 360 owners bash it but next gen they will love it. 360 has some good games, but I don't know if it's worth getting a 360 without XBL. Is halo even worth owning without it? That is my dilemma.

I'd say no. Online multiplayer is obviously the main meat of the game. The story in the Halo franchise is not as good as Uncharted and Killzone. PS3 is where quality single player is, thanks to the additional capacity provided by Blu-ray as it allowed more high quality cutscenes and good set pieces. So I think you should forget about the 360 and stick with your PS3.

Honestly, when my 360 dies, I doubt I'll get another one. It's not worth it anymore.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Honestly, I don't like the idea of this.

Halo 4 probably have used all DVD's space, so they have to use DLC to push more content to my 20GB hard drive? No thanks, I'll give it a miss. Not good enough.

This goes to show just how necessary the Blu-ray is.

mems_1224

My broken 360 was 20GB as well, that ran out real fast. I'm debating about getting a new 360 or not, but don't know if it's worth dropping $300 for, and XBL isn't worth it to me, maybe if I find it cheaper somewhere like $20 for a year or whatever like some Lems say you can. But even then I'm not really paying for anything I'm not getting on PSN aside from cross game chat. Which I can live without.

Next gen the Xbox will have Blu Ray, it's necessary this gen and it will no doubt be necessary next gen. Funny how 360 owners bash it but next gen they will love it. 360 has some good games, but I don't know if it's worth getting a 360 without XBL. Is halo even worth owning without it? That is my dilemma.

20 minute installs? I never had 20 minute installs before. They take like 10 at most.

Enjoy not being able to handle games like UC, MGS4, GOW, or any future games as they are too big to work on a DVD. Multiple discs wouldn't work either, it has to be integrtated into the disc, multiple discs won't solve that problem.

Games are going to get bigger and bigger, and devs are going (actually already started) to have problems with the 360. If it wants to catch up it will have to have Blu Ray or launch a new Xbox system that has it.

Casual trash.

ArmA 2 > Halo 4. Play a real man's game kids.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Honestly, I don't like the idea of this.

Halo 4 probably have used all DVD's space, so they have to use DLC to push more content to my 20GB hard drive? No thanks, I'll give it a miss. Not good enough.

This goes to show just how necessary the Blu-ray is.

GamerwillzPS

My broken 360 was 20GB as well, that ran out real fast. I'm debating about getting a new 360 or not, but don't know if it's worth dropping $300 for, and XBL isn't worth it to me, maybe if I find it cheaper somewhere like $20 for a year or whatever like some Lems say you can. But even then I'm not really paying for anything I'm not getting on PSN aside from cross game chat. Which I can live without.

Next gen the Xbox will have Blu Ray, it's necessary this gen and it will no doubt be necessary next gen. Funny how 360 owners bash it but next gen they will love it. 360 has some good games, but I don't know if it's worth getting a 360 without XBL. Is halo even worth owning without it? That is my dilemma.

I'd say no. Online multiplayer is obviously the main meat of the game. The story in the Halo franchise is not as good as Uncharted and Killzone. PS3 is where quality single player is, thanks to the additional capacity provided by Blu-ray as it allowed more high quality cutscenes and good set pieces. So I think you should forget about the 360 and stick with your PS3.

Honestly, when my 360 dies, I doubt I'll get another one. It's not worth it anymore.

praising killzone's story

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Honestly, I don't like the idea of this.

Halo 4 probably have used all DVD's space, so they have to use DLC to push more content to my 20GB hard drive? No thanks, I'll give it a miss. Not good enough.

This goes to show just how necessary the Blu-ray is.

GamerwillzPS

My broken 360 was 20GB as well, that ran out real fast. I'm debating about getting a new 360 or not, but don't know if it's worth dropping $300 for, and XBL isn't worth it to me, maybe if I find it cheaper somewhere like $20 for a year or whatever like some Lems say you can. But even then I'm not really paying for anything I'm not getting on PSN aside from cross game chat. Which I can live without.

Next gen the Xbox will have Blu Ray, it's necessary this gen and it will no doubt be necessary next gen. Funny how 360 owners bash it but next gen they will love it. 360 has some good games, but I don't know if it's worth getting a 360 without XBL. Is halo even worth owning without it? That is my dilemma.

I don't really know but online multiplayer is obviously the main meat of the game. The story in the Halo franchise is not as good as Uncharted and Killzone. PS3 is where quality single player is, thanks to the additional capacity provided by Blu-ray as it allowed more high quality cutscenes and good set pieces. So I think you should forget about the 360 and stick with your PS3.

Honestly, when my 360 dies, I doubt I'll get another one. It's not worth it anymore.

Well as far as storyline goes, I think Halo is better than Killzones but not by much. I have a bunch of old Xbox 1 games I got, which the 360 could be BC with some of them, and I still have a few 360 games around and the 360 has some good games for it like Witcher 2 and Halo 4 is looking alright now.

I agree they don't even come close to anything like UC or the upcoming TLOU. But they still are fun I suppose. Just I don't think XBL is really worth it, I'm not going to pay $60 a year just for cross game chat, that's the only difference when it comes to online gaming.

I already pay for PS+ which is a GREAT deal, XBL Gold doesn't match up to it at all. So without XBL I'm not sure if Halo or Gears will be worth it at all, I wouldn't be getting the full experience.

Way I see it:

360 = bad SP but good MP

PS3 = good SP and good MP

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

My broken 360 was 20GB as well, that ran out real fast. I'm debating about getting a new 360 or not, but don't know if it's worth dropping $300 for, and XBL isn't worth it to me, maybe if I find it cheaper somewhere like $20 for a year or whatever like some Lems say you can. But even then I'm not really paying for anything I'm not getting on PSN aside from cross game chat. Which I can live without.

Next gen the Xbox will have Blu Ray, it's necessary this gen and it will no doubt be necessary next gen. Funny how 360 owners bash it but next gen they will love it. 360 has some good games, but I don't know if it's worth getting a 360 without XBL. Is halo even worth owning without it? That is my dilemma.

ShadowMoses900

I don't really know but online multiplayer is obviously the main meat of the game. The story in the Halo franchise is not as good as Uncharted and Killzone. PS3 is where quality single player is, thanks to the additional capacity provided by Blu-ray as it allowed more high quality cutscenes and good set pieces. So I think you should forget about the 360 and stick with your PS3.

Honestly, when my 360 dies, I doubt I'll get another one. It's not worth it anymore.

Well as far as storyline goes, I think Halo is better than Killzones but not by much. I have a bunch of old Xbox 1 games I got, which the 360 could be BC with some of them, and I still have a few 360 games around and the 360 has some good games for it like Witcher 2 and Halo 4 is looking alright now.

I agree they don't even come close to anything like UC or the upcoming TLOU. But they still are fun I suppose. Just I don't think XBL is really worth it, I'm not going to pay $60 a year just for cross game chat, that's the only difference when it comes to online gaming.

I already pay for PS+ which is a GREAT deal, XBL Gold doesn't match up to it at all. So without XBL I'm not sure if Halo or Gears will be worth it at all, I wouldn't be getting the full experience.

Way I see it:

360 = bad SP but good MP

PS3 = good SP and good MP

Yeah.

DVD is sufficient for the multiplayer component really. This is why many single player campaigns are poor on the Xbox 360.

Single player campaigns are what uses the most disc space. By the fact that you said XBL is not worth your money (and mine too), you should stick with PS3.

But the decision is up to you. I wouldn't recommend getting a 360 though.

Cool. I was never that big on firefight. This sounds a bit more interesting.

Casual trash.

ArmA 2 > Halo 4. Play a real man's game kids.

Wasdie

And yet you're stilling gonna buy it day one. Look deep in your black heart. You know it's true.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

I don't really know but online multiplayer is obviously the main meat of the game. The story in the Halo franchise is not as good as Uncharted and Killzone. PS3 is where quality single player is, thanks to the additional capacity provided by Blu-ray as it allowed more high quality cutscenes and good set pieces. So I think you should forget about the 360 and stick with your PS3.

Honestly, when my 360 dies, I doubt I'll get another one. It's not worth it anymore.

GamerwillzPS

Well as far as storyline goes, I think Halo is better than Killzones but not by much. I have a bunch of old Xbox 1 games I got, which the 360 could be BC with some of them, and I still have a few 360 games around and the 360 has some good games for it like Witcher 2 and Halo 4 is looking alright now.

I agree they don't even come close to anything like UC or the upcoming TLOU. But they still are fun I suppose. Just I don't think XBL is really worth it, I'm not going to pay $60 a year just for cross game chat, that's the only difference when it comes to online gaming.

I already pay for PS+ which is a GREAT deal, XBL Gold doesn't match up to it at all. So without XBL I'm not sure if Halo or Gears will be worth it at all, I wouldn't be getting the full experience.

Way I see it:

360 = bad SP but good MP

PS3 = good SP and good MP

Yeah.

DVD is sufficient for the multiplayer component really. This is why many single player campaigns are poor on the Xbox 360.

Single player campaigns are what uses the most disc space. By the fact that you said XBL is not worth your money (and mine too), you should stick with PS3.

But the decision is up to you. I wouldn't recommend getting a 360 though.

Meh I'll think about it. I will probably get a 3DS instead, and I can just play Halo 4 at my friends house anyway. I like Killzone more than Halo so that's what interestes me more, hopefully they make a Killzone 4.

When I look at PS3 I see lot's of reasons to get one, when I look at 360 I have a harder time. It's even harder to do without XBL. It would be really hard to try and justify the purchase of one if your only getting it for exclusives (console exclusives included) and some XBL games.

But that's just me, 360 is good for those that enjoy it. For me PS3 just suites me better. You can't beat UC or MGS4.

[QUOTE="thedork_knight"][QUOTE="SpiralSmile"]

I agree. They could have easily put the 50 missions on the disc but they are holding it back so that when the subscription comes along it looks more appealing and less of a money grab. This is kind of like a free trail with an MMO.

Ravensmash

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Casual trash.

ArmA 2 > Halo 4. Play a real man's game kids.

FireSpirit117

And yet you're stilling gonna buy it day one. Look deep in your black heart. You know it's true.

I think Wasdie was joking. I recall him being a Halo fan.

[QUOTE="FireSpirit117"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Casual trash.

ArmA 2 > Halo 4. Play a real man's game kids.

ShadowMoses900

And yet you're stilling gonna buy it day one. Look deep in your black heart. You know it's true.

I think Wasdie was joking. I recall him being a Halo fan.

Thanks for pointing out the in-joke. :P

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="FireSpirit117"]

And yet you're stilling gonna buy it day one. Look deep in your black heart. You know it's true.

FireSpirit117

I think Wasdie was joking. I recall him being a Halo fan.

Thanks for pointing out the in-joke. :P

Oh lol, I wasn't aware you were in on it :P

Funny how 360 owners bash it but next gen they will love it.

ShadowMoses900

[QUOTE="FireSpirit117"]Wow, people are really trying to spin this like it's a bad thing. lolGamerwillzPS

Storage on the Xbox 360 have proved how big of a problem this could cause, especially the non-upgradeable hard drive.

DVD + non-upgradeable hard drive = Nightmare.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Well as far as storyline goes, I think Halo is better than Killzones but not by much. I have a bunch of old Xbox 1 games I got, which the 360 could be BC with some of them, and I still have a few 360 games around and the 360 has some good games for it like Witcher 2 and Halo 4 is looking alright now.

I agree they don't even come close to anything like UC or the upcoming TLOU. But they still are fun I suppose. Just I don't think XBL is really worth it, I'm not going to pay $60 a year just for cross game chat, that's the only difference when it comes to online gaming.

I already pay for PS+ which is a GREAT deal, XBL Gold doesn't match up to it at all. So without XBL I'm not sure if Halo or Gears will be worth it at all, I wouldn't be getting the full experience.

Way I see it:

360 = bad SP but good MP

PS3 = good SP and good MP

ShadowMoses900

Yeah.

DVD is sufficient for the multiplayer component really. This is why many single player campaigns are poor on the Xbox 360.

Single player campaigns are what uses the most disc space. By the fact that you said XBL is not worth your money (and mine too), you should stick with PS3.

But the decision is up to you. I wouldn't recommend getting a 360 though.

Meh I'll think about it. I will probably get a 3DS instead, and I can just play Halo 4 at my friends house anyway. I like Killzone more than Halo so that's what interestes me more, hopefully they make a Killzone 4.

When I look at PS3 I see lot's of reasons to get one, when I look at 360 I have a harder time. It's even harder to do without XBL. It would be really hard to try and justify the purchase of one if your only getting it for exclusives (console exclusives included) and some XBL games.

But that's just me, 360 is good for those that enjoy it. For me PS3 just suites me better. You can't beat UC or MGS4.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="FireSpirit117"]Wow, people are really trying to spin this like it's a bad thing. lolRavensmash

Storage on the Xbox 360 have proved how big of a problem this could cause, especially the non-upgradeable hard drive.

DVD + non-upgradeable hard drive = Nightmare.

It's funny because what I said makes sense. Developers, who are industry professionals, have complained about the storage problem on the Xbox 360.

Deal with it. It's the truth. But you won't accept it.

You hate Blu-ray because it's not built in the Xbox 360, and you'll love it if the Xbox 720 is going to use it. Typical Lem's logic.

ITT: Cows being fvcking morons.

Yes. Complain about this. Next time a developer announces costume DLC for a price,we'll fvcking complain and tell them to release it for free.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Yeah.

DVD is sufficient for the multiplayer component really. This is why many single player campaigns are poor on the Xbox 360.

Single player campaigns are what uses the most disc space. By the fact that you said XBL is not worth your money (and mine too), you should stick with PS3.

But the decision is up to you. I wouldn't recommend getting a 360 though.

JohnnyCageMK

Meh I'll think about it. I will probably get a 3DS instead, and I can just play Halo 4 at my friends house anyway. I like Killzone more than Halo so that's what interestes me more, hopefully they make a Killzone 4.

When I look at PS3 I see lot's of reasons to get one, when I look at 360 I have a harder time. It's even harder to do without XBL. It would be really hard to try and justify the purchase of one if your only getting it for exclusives (console exclusives included) and some XBL games.

But that's just me, 360 is good for those that enjoy it. For me PS3 just suites me better. You can't beat UC or MGS4.

$2 for 2 months of XBL? Really?

Give me a source to show it's true.

ITT: Cows being fvcking morons.

freedomfreak

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]

ITT: Cows being fvcking morons.

Xaero_Gravity

[QUOTE="Xaero_Gravity"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"]

ITT: Cows being fvcking morons.

freedomfreak

Use it.

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Meh I'll think about it. I will probably get a 3DS instead, and I can just play Halo 4 at my friends house anyway. I like Killzone more than Halo so that's what interestes me more, hopefully they make a Killzone 4.

When I look at PS3 I see lot's of reasons to get one, when I look at 360 I have a harder time. It's even harder to do without XBL. It would be really hard to try and justify the purchase of one if your only getting it for exclusives (console exclusives included) and some XBL games.

But that's just me, 360 is good for those that enjoy it. For me PS3 just suites me better. You can't beat UC or MGS4.

GamerwillzPS

$2 for 2 months of XBL? Really?

Give me a source to show it's true.

Use it.

GamerwillzPS

This is just awesome.I'm thinking of getting this game for my 360, but I'm not 100% if I will understand the story in this game since I barely even played the other halo games.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Use it.

freedomfreak

Hmm, but if you lack a basic knowledge of how to write an acceptable form of sentence, you are the one who should use a brain.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Use it.

freedomfreak

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"] You obviously love Halo but you don't have a 360 so you won't admit it. Just go buy one for $200, pay $2 every 2 months for XBL and pick up Halo Reach and Halo 3 to play until Halo 4. Then you can stop pretending to be a cow.JohnnyCageMK

$2 for 2 months of XBL? Really?

Give me a source to show it's true.

No it doesn't, it's just a one time deal when you first make an XBL account. You may get another offer if you threaten to cancel your Gold subscription, but otherwise you don't.

Halo is a good game for MP, it's SP is lacking though. So for someone who won't pay for XBL getting $300 for Halo SP is kinda pointless don't you think?

Hmm, but if you lack a basic knowledge of how to write an acceptable form of sentence, you are the one who should use a brain.

GamerwillzPS

You're asking too much.Xaero_Gravity

This is just awesome.I'm thinking of getting this game for my 360, but I'm not 100% if I will understand the story in this game since I barely even played the other halo games.

super600

Halo doens't really have too big of a story (not counting the books) the games don't really portray them too well. Basically all you have to understand is that at the end of Halo 3 Master Cheif froze himself and now for whatever reason which has yet to be explained, he has awakened.

There is also a new enemy as well, they might be fore runners, but who knows.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Hmm, but if you lack a basic knowledge of how to write an acceptable form of sentence, you are the one who should use a brain.

freedomfreak

This is just awesome.I'm thinking of getting this game for my 360, but I'm not 100% if I will understand the story in this game since I barely even played the other halo games.

super600

It's the beginning of a new trilogy. So even new comers should be able to understand it.